Svi spoljni operateri koji se nalaze na ovoj stranici su tu na nekomercijalnom osnovu i ne plaćaju ništa da bi bili tu. Imate 21+ godinu i problem sa kockanjem? Nazovite 1-800-GAMBLER.
Samo pročitajte „kazino papire"
https://vvv.ftm.eu/articles/previous/150
ceo posao je nelegalan i pun kriminalaca. Veb sajtovi kao što je casino.guru zarađuju milione kao takozvani „saradnici" i ne mare za pojedince. Neće vam pomoći, svi se uvek pozivaju na odredbe i uslove koji su uvek nezakoniti i ništavni, jer uglavnom nemaju ugovornu stranu jer svi žele da ostanu anonimni, a takođe i zato što su protiv svih prava na zaštitu potrošača širom Evrope. Kockanje je sranje. Pogledajte i potražite drugi hobi. Vaš novac je izgubljen. Naučite lekciju i nemojte to više nikada da radite. To je najbolji savet
Just read „the casino papers"
https://www.ftm.eu/articles/previous/150
the whole business is illegal and full of criminals. Websites as casino.guru make millions as so called „affiliates" and dont care about the individuals. They will not help you, everybody refers to terms and conditions always which are always illegal and null and void, because they mostly have no agreement party involved as everybody wants to stay anonymous and also because they are against every consumer protection rights all over europe. Gambling sucks. See it and search another hobby. Your money is lost. Learn your lesson and dont ever do it again. Thats the best advise
Dobar savet da promenite hobi, ako niste u stanju da ga kontrolišete i postane nešto drugačije nego samo hobi, sigurno.
Samo imajte na umu da uvek težimo fer igri i da pomažemo svim našim korisnicima kad god kazino pokuša da uradi nešto neetično. Naravno samo unutar terena možemo, a kad god su nam ruke vezane, nažalost ne možemo ništa mnogo da uradimo. 🤷♀
Good advice to change the hobby, if you are not able to control it and it becomes something different than just a hobby, for sure.
Just please know that we always aim for fair play and help all of our users whenever a casino tries to do something unethical. Of course only inside the field we can, and whenever our hands are tied, unfortunately there is nothing much we can do. 🤷♀️
Dozvolite mi da podijelim nekoliko riječi o svojoj priči i o tome kako je ZetCasino odlučio da mi uzme 21.000 €. Ovaj kazino mi je zapravo postavio moj rođak, a ja sam napravio nalog koristeći bonus novac. Uspeo sam da to pretvorim u 35.000 evra za kratko vreme. Podizao sam veoma sporo i sa zakašnjenjem — 500 € četiri dana u nedelji, ukupno oko 3.000 € mesečno. Posle dva meseca, iznenada su mi zatvorili račun.
Sada sam otvorio slučaj sa Casino Guruom u vezi sa ovim pitanjem. Njihov razlog za zatvaranje mog naloga je bio da sam mu pristupio sa kućne IP adrese svog rođaka. Tvrdili su da je to izazvalo sumnju da nisam jedini koji koristi nalog, što je dovelo do njegovog zatvaranja.
Međutim, budimo iskreni - mnogi strimeri se igraju sa dvoje ljudi na kameri u isto vreme. Čak su i strimeri koji su promovisali upravo ovaj kazino priznali da im kazina daju drugačija pravila. U međuvremenu, RabidNV je bankrotirao, a isti ljudi sada stoje iza druge kompanije. Držite se podalje od ovih prevaranata - postoje daleko pouzdanija kazina.
Pored toga, kontaktirao sam advokata sa Kurasa koji je specijalizovan za ova pitanja. Pre nekoliko meseci me je obavestio da je Rabbidi NV već bankrotirao i da ne postoji način da se vrati novac.
Što se tiče Casino Gurua, kad god neko pitanje nije u skladu sa njihovim interesima, oni pokušavaju da pronađu trenutno rešenje koje nikada ne ide u prilog igraču. Pošto primaju provizije od partnera od ovih kazina, oni manipulišu slučajevima kako bi zaštitili svoja partnerstva. Ako progovorite, oni umanjuju vašu reputaciju i označavaju vas kao „juniora" tako da drugi korisnici ne bi videli vaše recenzije.
Evo svih kazina Rabidija za ne igranje
https://vvv.casino-groups.com/rabidi-nv-casinos/
Tražio sam od kazino Gurua da ponovo otvori moj slučaj da shvatim šta se dogodilo i biće lepo pročitati
https://kazinoguru-gr.com/zetcasino-o-logariasmos-cai-ta-chrhmata-toi-paicte
To je sve od mene. Čuvajte se i budite sigurni!
Let me share a few words about my story and how ZetCasino decided to take €21,000 from me. This casino was actually set up for me by my cousin, and I created an account using bonus money. I managed to turn it into €35,000 in a short period. I was making withdrawals at a very slow and delayed rate—€500 four days a week, totaling around €3,000 per month. After two months, they suddenly closed my account.
I have now opened a case with Casino Guru regarding this matter. Their reasoning for closing my account was that I had accessed it from my cousin’s home IP address. They claimed this raised suspicions that I wasn’t the only one using the account, which led to its closure.
However, let’s be honest—many streamers play with two people on camera at the same time. Even streamers who promoted this exact casino have admitted that casinos give them different rules. Meanwhile, RabidNV has gone bankrupt, and the same people are now behind another company. Stay away from these fraudsters—there are far more reliable casinos out there.
Additionally, I had contacted a lawyer from Curaçao who specializes in these matters. Months ago, he informed me that Rabbidi N.V had already gone bankrupt, and there is no way to recover the money.
As for Casino Guru, whenever an issue doesn’t align with their interests, they try to find an immediate solution that never favors the player. Because they receive affiliate commissions from these casinos, they manipulate cases to protect their partnerships. If you speak out, they downgrade your reputation and label you as a "junior " so that other users won’t see your reviews.
Here are all the casinos of Rabidi to dont play
https://www.casino-groups.com/rabidi-n-v-casinos/
I asked from casino Guru to reopen my case to undrestand all what happened and it will be nice to read it
https://kazinoguru-gr.com/zetcasino-o-logariasmos-cai-ta-chrhmata-toy-paicte
That’s all from me. Take care and stay safe!
zdravo,
Pretpostavljam da je moralo biti bolno i žao mi je da je vaša žalba zatvorena kao neopravdana.
Međutim, poređenje standardnog korisnika sa strimerom koji obično ima neku vrstu veze sa kockarnicama nije dobra ideja. Po mom mišljenju, to je otprilike kao da kažem da sve dok se ljudi ubijaju u TV seriji, mogu da uradim nešto slično.
Sve dok uslovi jasno navode da je dozvoljen samo jedan nalog po korisniku, pretpostavljam da nije vredno rizika smatrati da ovo pravilo nije super važno.
Tada je moj kolega pominjao i prevare. Pa, pretpostavljam da ćete ostati sigurni da niste pogrešili. Dok su s druge strane pruženi dokazi.
Nije da ti ne verujem; Samo mislim da bi bilo pošteno dodati i drugu stranu slučaja. Još jednom, izvini. Čuvajte se i budite sigurni! 🙏
Hello,
I imagine it must have been painful and I'm sorry your complaint was closed as unjustified.
However, comparing a standard user with a streamer who usually has some kind of relationship with the casinos, is not a good idea. In my opinion, it's pretty much like saying that as long as people are being killed in the tv series, I can do something similar.
As long as the terms clearly state only one account is permitted per user, I guess it is not worth the risk to consider this rule not to be super important.
Back then, my colleague also mentioned fraudulent activity. Well, I guess you will remain sure you have not made any mistake. While on the other hand, proofs have been provided.
It is not like I do not believe you; I just think it would be fair to add the other side of the case. Once more, I'm sorry. Take care, and stay safe! 🙏
Zdravo, Radka.
Naravno, napraviću poređenje, jer biti strimer se ne razlikuje od običnog igrača, a u stvari, igrače treba poštovati čak i više nego strimere. Zato u terminima treba jasno reći da pravila nisu ista za strimere.
Igrači zaslužuju više poštovanja – ne samo od vas koji pišete ovde, već i od strimera i kazina jer igraju sa svojim PRAVIM novcem, a ne sa podružnicama
Nema nikakve prevare, jer sam igrao sa svog mobilnog telefona. E sad, druga stvar je činjenica da smo imali istu IP adresu jer sam bio kod rođaka. To nije zabranjeno.
Međutim, ponovo sam otvorio slučaj i poslao slike više strimera koji igraju zajedno, gde jedan igra sa tuđeg naloga. Dakle, vaše poređenje sa TV serijama nije validno.
I ja vas otvoreno pitam ovde da svi to mogu da vide. Da li kazino Guru ima partnerstvo sa ovim kockarnicama (Rabidi NV) Da li prima provizije za partnere od njih?
Hello, Radka.
Of course, I will make a comparison, because being a streamer is not different from being a regular player, and in fact, players should be respected even more than streamers. That’s why it should be clearly stated in the terms that the rules are not the same for streamers.
Players deserve more respect—not just from you writing here, but also from streamers and casinos because they play with their REAL money and not with Affiliates
There is no fraudulent activity whatsoever, as I was playing from my mobile phone. Now, the fact that we had the same IP because I was at my cousin’s house is another matter. That is not forbidden.
However, I have reopened the case and sent pictures of multiple streamers playing together, where one is playing from someone else’s account. So your comparison with TV series is not valid.
And i am openly asking you here so that everyone can see it.Does casino Guru have partnership with these casinos (Rabidi N.V) Does it receive affiliate commissions from them ?
Dobar dan vama!
Daću još jednom ako nemaš ništa protiv. Zato što mi je stalo da ti pomognem.
Ostavimo po strani vaše mišljenje o tome da su strimeri redovni igrači, i hajde da pokušamo da razmislimo o logici iza vašeg argumenta „i oni to rade".
Verujem da je poenta pravila da se ona primenjuju na vas, tako da ako ih neko drugi krši (posebno strimeri), to neće služiti kao argument za druge koji odluče da urade isto. Uveravam vas da naš tim za žalbe to neće koristiti kao dokaz koji podržava vaše gledište.
Možda biste želeli da pročitate pošteni Kodeks o kockanju, na osnovu kojeg se rešavaju žalbe:
https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codek-for-plaiers
Očigledno, više volite da se držite svoje istine; to je sasvim u redu. Ne bih voleo da vidim da imate još jedan problem u kazinu zbog vašeg mišljenja — možda. Ako vam je ovo neprijatno, žao mi je što se tako osećate.
Nameravam da vam sačuvam buduće probleme. Molimo vas da ne tražite nijedan drugi razlog.
IP i srodnik koji igra u istom kazinu, to je nešto drugo. Slažem se da ta IP utakmica treba da bude samo jedan deo čitavog skupa dokaza koji otkrivaju sukobe igrača ili duple naloge. Svaka žalba se razmatra posebno, a potrebno je još mnogo toga da se žalba zatvori kao neopravdana.
Na ovaj ili onaj način, želim vam sreću sa vašim zahtevom za ponovno otvaranje.
Što se tiče provizija — da, imamo provizije od kazina sa dobrom reputacijom, i naravno, uprkos tome koliko šokantno zvuči, provizije nemaju uticaja na proces žalbe.
Da budemo iskreni, koristimo ono što vi nazivate partnerstvom kao polugu za rešavanje problema igrača sa kazinom.
Javite mi ako vam je zanimljivo i ostanite zdravi.
Good day to you!
I'll give it one more shot if you don't mind. Because I care to help you.
Let's leave aside your opinion on streamers being regular players, and let's try to think through the logic behind your argument "they do that too."
I believe the point with the rules is that they apply to you, so if anyone else is breaching them (especially streamers), it won't serve as an argument for others deciding to do the same on their own. I can assure you our Complaint Team won't use that as evidence supporting your point of view.
Perhaps you would like to read the fair Gambling Codex, based on which the complaints are handled:
https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-players
Obviously, you prefer to stick with your truth; that's perfectly ok. I would just hate to see you having another problem in the casino due to your opinion —perhaps. If this feels uncomfortable for you, I'm sorry you feel this way.
I intend to save you future issues. Kindly do not look for any other reason.
The IP and the relative playing in the same casino, that's something different. I agree that that IP match should be just one part of the whole set of proofs revealing players collisions or duplicate accounts. Every complaint is considered separately, and much more is needed to close the complaint as unjustified.
One way or another, I wish you luck with your reopen request.
As for the commissions—yes, we do have commissions from casinos with good reputations, and of course, despite how shocking it may sound, commissions have no impact on the complaint process.
To be honest, we use what you call a partnership as leverage for resolving players' issues with casinos.
Let me know if you find it interesting, and stay well.
Dobar dan Radka,
Dozvolite mi da odgovorim, fokusirajući se na nekoliko važnih tačaka:
Pomenuli ste da samo IP podudaranje nije dovoljno da opravda zatvaranje žalbe. Međutim, u mom slučaju, žalba je zaključena isključivo na osnovu IP adrese, bez ikakvog drugog opravdanja. Dakle, prema onome što ste sami izjavili, ja sam u pravu i treba mi ponovo otvoriti nalog.
Nisam dobio nikakvo zvanično objašnjenje iz kazina. Kada pokušam da kontaktiram njihovu podršku uživo, oni mi se rugaju i odgovaraju sledećom porukom: „unutar lične odluke bez navođenja razloga". Ovo nije ni profesionalno ni prihvatljivo.
Kada je kompanija promenila vlasnika, ponovo su otvorili naloge igrača koji su prethodno bili zabranjeni - bez saglasnosti samih igrača. To je potpuno protivzakonito.
Razumem da nije pogrešno primati provizije od kazina, ali ne možete tvrditi da ste potpuno objektivni u takvim okolnostima — i to je razumljivo. Međutim, takođe morate priznati posledice tog nedostatka objektivnosti.
Što se tiče Rabidija, budimo iskreni — nikada nije imao dobru reputaciju. Postoji bezbroj pritužbi na njih, a na žalost, čini se da se borite da im održite ocenu veštački visokim.
Samo da budem iskren ovde.
Good day Radka,
Please allow me to respond, focusing on a few important points:
You mentioned that an IP match alone is not enough to justify closing a complaint. However, in my case, the complaint was closed based solely on the IP address, without any other justification. So, according to what you yourself stated, I am right and my account should be reopened.
I have not received any official explanation from the casino. When I try to contact their live support, they mock me and respond with the following message: "inside personal decision without providing any reason of it". This is neither professional nor acceptable.
When the company changed hands, they reopened accounts of players who had previously been banned — without the consent of the players themselves. That is completely illegal.
I understand that it’s not wrong to receive commissions from casinos, but you cannot claim to be completely objective under such circumstances — and that’s understandable. However, you must also acknowledge the consequences of that lack of objectivity.
As for Rabidi, let’s be honest — it never had a good reputation. There are countless complaints about them, and unfortunately, you seem to be struggling to keep their ratings artificially high.
Just being honest here.
zdravo,
Posebno sam pomenuo IP podudaranje, jer prema informacijama vaša žalba nije odbijena isključivo na osnovu IP podudaranja. Moje kolege to ne rade.
„Hvala vam puno na pojašnjenju ZetCasino Tim.
Poštovani miltoskaz , kazino nam je pružio sveobuhvatne dokaze o lažnim aktivnostima koje nas navode da verujemo da su koraci koje je kazino preduzeo u ovom slučaju opravdani. Iz tog razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli više pomoći. Molimo ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti."
Kao što sam rekao, ovo je bilo složenije, bojim se.
Hello,
I specifically mentioned the IP match, because according to the info, your complaint was not rejected solely based an IP match. This is not what my colleagues do.
"Thank you very much for the clarification ZetCasino Team.
Dear miltoskaz, the casino has provided us with comprehensive evidence of fraudulent activity that leads us to believe that the steps the casino has taken in this case are justified. Due to that reason, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future."
As I said, this is was more complex, I'm afraid.
zdravo,
Želim da istaknem da mi nikada nisu dostavljeni detaljni dokazi u vezi sa mojim slučajem — jedino što sam dobio su neke IP adrese. Ne verujem da se to kvalifikuje kao "sveobuhvatni dokaz" kao što je navedeno.
Pored toga, niste se pozabavili činjenicom da sam bio blokiran iz ćaskanja uživo i ismevan od strane tima za podršku. Zaista bih voleo da znam kako tumačite takvo ponašanje takozvanog „pouzdanog" kazina.
Takođe ste potpuno ignorisali veoma ozbiljan problem: nalozi su ponovo otvoreni bez saglasnosti igrača, iako su zatvoreni iz ličnih ili drugih razloga. Ovo je očigledno kršenje privatnosti i politike.
Na kraju, moram da pitam:
Da li se održava visok rejting kazina zato što su njegova pridružena partnerstva vrednija od onih drugih kazina?
Teško je poverovati da niste bili svesni da je kompanija poput Rabidija krenula ka bankrotu u poslednjih 1,5 godina — a ipak, nastavila je da se promoviše kao pouzdani operater.
Radujem se jasnom i detaljnom odgovoru na sve gore navedene tačke.
Hello,
I would like to point out that I was never provided with detailed evidence regarding my case — the only thing I received were some IP addresses. I don’t believe that qualifies as "comprehensive evidence" as stated.
Additionally, you haven’t addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. I’d really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino.
You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the players’ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy.
Lastly, I have to ask:
Is the casino’s high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?
It’s hard to believe that you weren’t aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years — and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator.
I look forward to a clear and thorough response to all the above points.
Hej. Da li mislite na neki određeni kazino, možda? Ima li problema?
Možda bismo mogli pomoći; javite nam.
Hey. Are you referring to some specific casino, perhaps? Any issues there?
Maybe we could help; let us know.
zdravo,
Neki od vas će možda smatrati da je ovaj nedavni članak zanimljiv o Rabidiju, Araksiju, Adoniju i Novaforgeu za koje se čini da su svi povezani sa istim ljudima:
https://vvv.investigate-europe.eu/posts/shadi-bets-blacklisted-gambling-sites-connected-to-soft2bet-avard-vinning-european-firm
Hello,
Some of you may find this recent article interesting about Rabidi, Araxio, Adonio and Novaforge which all appear to be linked to same people:
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/shady-bets-blacklisted-gambling-sites-connected-to-soft2bet-award-winning-european-firm
zdravo,
Želim da istaknem da mi nikada nisu dostavljeni detaljni dokazi u vezi sa mojim slučajem — jedino što sam dobio su neke IP adrese. Ne verujem da se to kvalifikuje kao "sveobuhvatni dokaz" kao što je navedeno.
Pored toga, niste se pozabavili činjenicom da sam bio blokiran iz ćaskanja uživo i ismevan od strane tima za podršku. Zaista bih voleo da znam kako tumačite takvo ponašanje takozvanog „pouzdanog" kazina.
Takođe ste potpuno ignorisali veoma ozbiljan problem: nalozi su ponovo otvoreni bez saglasnosti igrača, iako su zatvoreni iz ličnih ili drugih razloga. Ovo je očigledno kršenje privatnosti i politike.
Na kraju, moram da pitam:
Da li se održava visok rejting kazina zato što su njegova pridružena partnerstva vrednija od onih drugih kazina?
Teško je poverovati da niste bili svesni da je kompanija poput Rabidija krenula ka bankrotu u poslednjih 1,5 godina — a ipak, nastavila je da se promoviše kao pouzdani operater.
Radujem se jasnom i detaljnom odgovoru na sve gore navedene tačke.
Hello,
I would like to point out that I was never provided with detailed evidence regarding my case — the only thing I received were some IP addresses. I don’t believe that qualifies as "comprehensive evidence" as stated.
Additionally, you haven’t addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. I’d really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino.
You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the players’ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy.
Lastly, I have to ask:
Is the casino’s high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?
It’s hard to believe that you weren’t aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years — and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator.
I look forward to a clear and thorough response to all the above points.
Dobar dan tebi.
Pretpostavljam da bi ta pitanja trebalo prvo da postavite osobi koja vodi računa o vašoj ponovnoj žalbi.
Međutim, potrudiću se da ipak odgovorim na nekoliko stvari, uprkos tome što se čini da ste se već odlučili i da vas dijalog zapravo ne zanima. Nisam ti ja neprijatelj ovde.
1) Kada je u pitanju prevara, ne delimo detalje sa dotičnim platiocem.
Šef odeljenja za žalbe:
„Nažalost, ne igraju svi igrači po pravilima. Neki igrači se svesno bave aktivnostima koje ne samo da su zabranjene uslovima već i potencijalno nezakonite, što potpada pod tipične definicije prevare.
Ovi igrači znaju pre nego što podnesu žalbu da su prekršili pravila i jednostavno se nadaju da operater neće imati dovoljno dokaza da ubedi treću stranu da su prekršili uslove.
Ako ovim igračima pokažemo dokaze iz kazina, onda će sledeći put oni biti sofisticiraniji, a za kazino će ih biti mnogo teže uhvatiti.
Zbog toga, kazina ili mi ne možemo da podelimo nijedan dokaz (isto kao regulator) "
2) „Pored toga, niste se pozabavili činjenicom da sam bio blokiran u ćaskanju uživo i ismevan od strane tima za podršku. Zaista bih voleo da znam kako tumačite takvo ponašanje iz takozvanog „pouzdanog" kazina."
To je nešto što ne možemo da koristimo kao razlog za snižavanje indeksa bezbednosti posebno na osnovu odbijenih žalbi. Korisnička iskustva su ključni faktor, ali se drže odvojeno u oceni korisnika. Uvek je bilo tako.
3) "Takođe ste potpuno ignorisali veoma ozbiljan problem: nalozi su ponovo otvoreni bez saglasnosti igrača, iako su zatvoreni iz ličnih ili drugih razloga. Ovo je očigledno kršenje privatnosti i politike." Nisam upoznat sa celim pritužbama, ali pretpostavljam da zavisi od konačnog ishoda žalbi i od načina na koji su ti računi zatvoreni.
4) „Da li se visok rejting kazina održava zato što su njegova pridružena partnerstva vrednija od onih drugih kazina?" Naravno da ne, jedina stvar na koju možemo da računamo su igrači - ne kazina.
5) „Teško je poverovati da niste bili svesni da je kompanija kao što je Rabidi krenula ka bankrotu u poslednjih 1,5 godina — a ipak, nastavila je da se promoviše kao operater od poverenja." U suštini, pošto su žalbe igrača rešene, nemamo dokaza da su kazina u grupi ikada nameravali da ne isplate. Što je glavna svrha Indeksa bezbednosti.
Zaista mislim da bi trebalo da uđete u diskusiju sa posrednikom. Bojim se da nemam načina da vam pomognem ovde na forumu.
Voleo bih da to uradim; javite mi ako imate neke ideje.
Good day to you.
I guess you should ask those questions of the person taking care of your reopened complaint in the first place.
However, I'll do my best to answer a few points anyway, despite it seeming you already made up your mind and are not actually interested in dialog. I'm not your enemy here.
1) When fraud is involved, we are not sharing details with the payer in question.
Head of Complaint Section:
"Unfortunately, not every player plays by the rules. Some players are knowingly engaging in activity that is not only prohibited by terms and conditions but potentially illegal, falling under the typical definitions of fraud.
These players know before submitting a complaint that they’ve breached the rules and are simply hoping that the operator will not have enough evidence to convince a third party that they have broken terms.
If we show the evidence from the casino to these players, then the next time they will be more sophisticated, and for the casino, it will be much harder to catch them.
Because of that, the casinos or we cannot share any of the evidence (same as the regulator) "
2) "Additionally, you haven’t addressed the fact that I was blocked from the live chat and mocked by the support team. I’d really like to know how you interpret such behavior from a so-called "reliable" casino."
This is something we cannot use as a reason for lowering the Safety Index especially based on rejected complaints. User experiences are a key factor yet kept separately at user rating. It has always been like that.
3) "You also completely ignored a very serious issue: accounts were reopened without the players’ consent, even though they had been closed for personal or other reasons. This is clearly a violation of privacy and policy." I'm not familiar with the whole complaints, but I guess it depends on the final outcome of the complaints and also on the way those accounts were closed.
4) "Is the casino’s high rating being maintained because its affiliate partnerships are more valuable than those of other casinos?" Of course not, the only thing we can realy on are palyers - not casinos.
5) "It’s hard to believe that you weren’t aware that a company like Rabidi was heading toward bankruptcy for the past 1.5 years — and yet, it continued to be promoted as a trustworthy operator." Basically, since the players complaints have been resolved, we have no proof the casinos in the group have ever intended not to pay out. Which is the main purpose of the Safety index.
I really think you should get into a discussion with the mediator. I have no way of helping you out here on the forum, I'm afraid.
I'd love to do so; let me know if you have some ideas.
Draga Radka,
Hvala vam na odgovoru, iako moram reći da nijedan od vaših odgovora nije bio jasan ili zadovoljavajući.
Razumem da pridružena partnerstva donose značajnu količinu prihoda i postaje sasvim očigledno da imaju veću težinu od glasa pojedinačnog igrača koji ovde izražava zabrinutost. To je samo po sebi razočaravajuće.
Ako je prevara tako kritično pitanje, onda bi uslovi i odredbe trebalo da budu napisani jasnim, detaljnim jezikom — posebno u pogledu toga šta tačno predstavlja kršenje. Trenutno su previše nejasni, što ostavlja igrače u mraku i na milost i nemilost proizvoljnim odlukama. Transparentnost je neophodna ako očekujete da će ljudi verovati vašim ocenama ili kockarnicama koje preporučujete.
Kada je nalog suspendovan ili zatvoren zbog navodnog prekršaja, igrač zaslužuje odgovarajuće objašnjenje šta se tačno dogodilo - a ne neku autoritarnu poruku koja kaže: „Vaš nalog je zatvoren jer smo tako odlučili." Ovako ne bi trebalo da funkcioniše profesionalna ili etička platforma.
Pored toga, ako postoje različita pravila za igrače i za strimere (što je veoma očigledno), to treba jasno da bude navedeno u uslovima. Igrači zaslužuju da znaju da se ne pridržavaju istih standarda kao oni koji javno promovišu kazino.
Kada ima ovoliko pritužbi igrača na istog operatera, trebalo bi da istražujete dublje, kao što to rade druge pouzdane platforme kao što je AskGamblers. Ignorisanje obrazaca maltretiranja samo zato što se žalbe „odbacuju" je neodgovorno.
U mom konkretnom slučaju, depoziti su bili prihvaćeni bez problema neko vreme. U trenutku kada je postalo jasno da neću da kockam sredstva, već da planiram da ih podignem, moj račun je iznenada zamrznut i zatvoren. Samo to izaziva mnogo crvenih zastava.
Takođe, kažete da biste voleli da mi pomognete - ali sve što ste do sada uradili je da me usmerite ka nekom drugom ili ponovite politiku kompanije. Želeti da se pomogne i zapravo pomaže dve su veoma različite stvari. U ovom trenutku, više se osećate kao da želite da izgledate od pomoći nego da istinski podržavate igrača koji je očigledno maltretiran.
Ako zaista želite da pomognete igračima, posrednik CasinoGuru-a bi trebalo da deluje više kao neformalni predstavnik ili zagovornik igrača – govoreći: „Morate da dokažete sledeće da biste ponovo otvorili svoj nalog" i da vam pomogne u vođenju tog procesa. Tako bi izgledala prava podrška — ne samo preusmeravanje i podrazumevano pristajanje uz kazino.
Dear Radka,
Thank you for your response, although I must say that none of your answers were actually clear or satisfactory.
I understand that affiliate partnerships bring in a significant amount of revenue, and it's becoming quite obvious that they hold more weight than the voice of an individual player expressing concerns here. That, in itself, is disappointing.
If fraud is such a critical issue, then the terms and conditions should be written in clear, detailed language—especially regarding what exactly constitutes a violation. Right now, they are overly vague, which leaves players in the dark and at the mercy of arbitrary decisions. Transparency is essential if you expect people to trust your ratings or the casinos you recommend.
When an account is suspended or closed for a supposed violation, the player deserves a proper explanation of what exactly happened—not some authoritarian message stating, "Your account is closed because we decided so." This is not how a professional or ethical platform should operate.
Additionally, if there are different rules for players and for streamers (which is very apparent), that should be clearly stated in the terms. Players deserve to know they are not being held to the same standards as those promoting the casino publicly.
When there are this many complaints from players about the same operator, you should be investigating deeper, like other trusted platforms such as AskGamblers do. Ignoring patterns of mistreatment simply because complaints are "rejected" is irresponsible.
In my particular case, deposits were accepted without issue for a while. The moment it became clear that I wasn’t going to gamble the funds, but instead planned to withdraw them, my account was suddenly frozen and closed. That alone raises a lot of red flags.
Also, you say you’d love to help me—yet all you’ve done so far is point me toward someone else or repeat company policy. Wanting to help and actually helping are two very different things. At this point, it feels more like you want to appear helpful than to truly support a player who has clearly been mistreated.
If you really wanted to help players, the CasinoGuru mediator should act more like an informal representative or advocate for the player—saying, "You need to prove the following in order to have your account reopened," and assisting in guiding that process. That’s what real support would look like—not just redirecting and siding with the casino by default.
Poštovani korisniče,
Iako pokušavate da primenite logičko rezonovanje na svakodnevne operacije kazina, on ne funkcioniše ovako. Bilo bi divno živeti u tako savršenom svetu. Nadam se da sada shvatate zašto sam krenuo da vam razjasnim razliku između toga kako stvari jesu i kakve bi trebalo da budu.
Ipak, pokušao sam još jednom da vam objasnim da je najgora greška pretpostaviti, a ne znati. Pošto ste običan igrač, a ne strimer, od vas se traži da poštujete pisana pravila bez izuzetka. Sa tom strategijom, trebalo bi da budete sigurni.
Samo kratak podsetnik da je standardna poslovna procedura za zahteve za povlačenje, a ne depozite, da se iniciraju provere i istrage. Kazina ponekad žele da dozvole igračima da igraju kako bi prikupili dokaze za konačni obračun. Međutim, uvek zavisi od okolnosti.
Nažalost, igrači u vašoj situaciji često smatraju da su sva jasna objašnjenja neprikladna i da imaju smisla.
Neću se složiti sa vama. Poštujem to i nadam se najboljem za vas. Želim da vam pomognem da se klonite istih opasnih pretpostavki kada igrate u kockarnicama, bez obzira u šta verujete.
Tu smo da vam pomognemo ako vam ikada zatreba.
Dear user,
Although you attempt to apply logical reasoning to the day-to-day operations of the casino, this is not how it operates. It would be wonderful to live in such a perfect world. I hope you now see why I set out to clarify for you the distinction between the way things are and how they ought to be.
However, I tried to explain to you once more that the worst mistake is to assume rather than know. Because you are a regular player and not a streamer, you are required to follow the written rules without exception. With that strategy, you ought to be safe.
Just a quick reminder that it is standard business procedure for withdrawal requests, not deposits, to initiate checks and investigations. Casinos sometimes want to allow players to play in order to collect evidence for the final showdown. It always depends on the circumstances at hand, though.
Regretfully, players in your situation frequently feel that all clear explanations are inappropriate, and it makes sense.
I will not disagree with you. I honor that and hope the best for you. I want to help you steer clear of the same dangerous presumptions when playing in casinos, regardless of what you may come to believe.
We are here to help if you ever need it.
Draga Radka,
Hvala vam na odgovoru. U potpunosti razumem da kazino funkcioniše na osnovu sopstvenih uslova i procedura. Međutim, osećam potrebu da branim svoj stav, jer određene tačke zaslužuju dodatno pojašnjenje.
Pre svega, nikada nisam poricao postojanje pravila. Naprotiv, uvek se trudim da ih pratim do slova. Činjenica da sam običan igrač, a ne strimer, ne znači da treba da budem tretiran sa manje fleksibilnosti ili poverenja. Primena pravila selektivno ili retroaktivno izaziva opravdanu zabrinutost i pojačava osećaj nepravednog tretmana.
Međutim, da bi pravila bila pravedna i efikasna, moraju biti jasno navedena, detaljna i precizno napisana. Igrač ne treba da bude kažnjen ili ispitan zbog navodnih prekršaja koji su nejasno definisani ili nisu eksplicitno navedeni. Transparentnost je ključna komponenta poverenja i međusobnog poštovanja između igrača i platforme.
Takođe razumem da su čekovi standardna praksa prilikom povlačenja. Ipak, kada se takve provere pokreću tek nakon značajne pobede ili pokušaja povlačenja – dok nije bilo problema tokom depozita ili igranja – to stvara utisak „zamke", što se ne odražava dobro na kazino ili njegovu praksu.
Ne pravim pretpostavke, niti pokušavam da diktiram kako kazino treba da funkcioniše. Ja jednostavno opisujem svoje iskustvo i ističem aspekte koje smatram problematičnim — s poštovanjem, ali jasno.
Moj cilj nije konfrontacija, već fer i jednak tretman. Zato tražim da se moj slučaj sagleda objektivno, bez pristrasnosti zasnovanih na „normama" koje prečesto rade protiv interesa igrača.
Na kraju, želeo bih da pokrenem još jedno pitanje:
Što se tiče bankrota Rabidija, izuzetno je teško poverovati da vam to nije bilo unapred poznato. Ako je postojao tako ozbiljan problem, trebalo je to transparentno i promptno saopštiti igračima. Takvi propusti ozbiljno narušavaju kredibilitet platforme.
Hvala unapred i ostajem na raspolaganju za sva dodatna pojašnjenja.
Dear Radka,
Thank you for your response. I fully understand that a casino operates based on its own terms and procedures. However, I feel the need to defend my position, as certain points deserve further clarification.
First of all, I have never denied the existence of rules. On the contrary, I always strive to follow them to the letter. The fact that I am a regular player and not a streamer does not mean I should be treated with less flexibility or trust. Applying rules selectively or retroactively raises valid concerns and reinforces the feeling of unfair treatment.
However, for rules to be fair and effective, they must be clearly stated, detailed, and written with precision. A player should not be penalized or scrutinized for alleged violations that are vaguely defined or not explicitly listed. Transparency is a core component of trust and mutual respect between the player and the platform.
I also understand that checks are standard practice during withdrawals. Nevertheless, when such checks are triggered only after a significant win or an attempt to withdraw — while there were no issues during deposits or gameplay — it creates the impression of a "trap," which does not reflect well on the casino or its practices.
I am not making assumptions, nor am I trying to dictate how a casino should operate. I am simply describing my experience and highlighting the aspects I find problematic — respectfully but clearly.
My goal is not confrontation, but fair and equal treatment. That is why I am asking that my case be reviewed objectively, without biases based on "norms" that too often work against the player’s interest.
Finally, I would like to raise an additional issue:
Regarding the bankruptcy of Rabidi, it is extremely difficult to believe that this was not known to you in advance. If such a serious problem existed, it should have been communicated transparently and promptly to the players. Such omissions severely damage the platform’s credibility.
Thank you in advance, and I remain available for any further clarification.
Dobar vam dan!
Ipak, i dalje se slažem sa skoro svim što si napisao; Mislim da bi bilo dobro da ponovim nekoliko stvari:
Pre svega, nećete moći da tražite da se vaša žalba ponovo otvori ovde na forumu. Da li si uradio kako sam ti rekao, molim te? Ne vidim vašu otvorenu žalbu, pa bih želeo da unapred objasnim mogući nesporazum.
To morate da uradite sami, u svojoj niti za žalbe . 🙏 Fokusirajte se na objašnjavanje novih dokaza koje ste prikupili. To je u osnovi svrha funkcije ponovnog otvaranja, posebno kod tako starih slučajeva. U suprotnom, bojim se da slučaj neće biti tako lako ponovo otvoren.
Drugo, proces žalbe zaista nije osmišljen da reši loša korisnička iskustva ili nedostatak pristojnog tretmana koji su igrači dobili od bilo koga ili principa. Fokusiran je na istražne stvari zasnovane na Kodeksu poštenog kockanja . 👈
Ako ga pregledate, naići ćete na situacije opisane iz „normi", ili bolje rečeno, standardne pozicije industrije.
Ovo je opet moj iskreni pokušaj da sprečim nesporazume. Molim vas, nemojte to smatrati nečim drugim, molim vas.
Good day to you!
However, I still agree with almost everything you wrote; I think it would be good to repeat a few things:
First of all, you won't be able to ask for your complaint to be reopened here on the forum. Did you do as I instructed you, please? I see no open complaint of yours so I would like to explain a possible misunderstanding in advance.
You need to do that on your own, in your complaint thread. 🙏 Focus on explaining what new evidence you have gathered. That's basically the purpose of the reopening feature, especially with such old cases. Otherwise, I fear the case won't be reopened so easily.
Secondly, the complaint process is really not designed to resolve poor user experiences or lack of decent treatment players received from anyone or principles. It is focused on investigation matters based Fair Gambling Codex. 👈
If you browse it, you will come across the situations described from the "norms," or better said, the industry standard position.
This is again my honest attempt to prevent missunderstandings. Kindly do not consider that as anything else, please.
Besplatni profesionalni edukativni kursevi za zaposlene u online kazinima usmereni na najbolje prakse u industriji, poboljšanje iskustva igrača i pošten pristup kockanju.
Inicijativu koju smo pokrenuli s ciljem stvaranja globalnog sistema samoisključenja, koji će omogućiti ranjivim igračima da blokiraju pristup svim mogućnostima online kockanja.
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