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Dragi Liageokrik,
Nakon što sam prikupio sve potrebne informacije i dokaze, uključujući vaš dnevnik igre, bojim se da ne mogu da nastavim sa vašim slučajem.
Pokušaću da ponudim naše mišljenje o svim okolnostima.
Kada sam dostigao željeni iznos, zatražio sam povlačenje. Međutim, do transfera nije došlo bar 2-3 dana, možda i duže.
Mogu da razumem da ste želeli da brzo dobijete povlačenje; takođe bismo voleli da se isplate obrađuju istog dana kada su i zatražene, ali postoje različiti faktori koji utiču na ovaj proces i nije ništa neobično što to traje nekoliko radnih dana. Nažalost, preduzeli ste akciju da otkažete isplate, a kasnije ste objedinili sredstva za igranje. Ova odluka je bila isključivo vaša, a kazino tim nije učinio ništa loše. Igrači moraju da budu strpljivi.
12. 5. gde je osvojeno 19,95 €, morao sam da dostignem 2000 € sa ovih 19,95, što sam uradio bez prekoračenja maksimalne opklade od 5 €.
Nažalost, ovo nije tačno. Bilo je to 05.12. 2024, dok imate aktivan bonus gde više puta premašujete maksimalan iznos opklade. Iako verujemo da softver treba da automatski primeni maksimalnu opkladu kako bi se sprečilo da igrači nenamerno prekrše ovo pravilo, to još uvek nije industrijski standard jer svaki kazino koristi sopstveni softver platforme. S obzirom na to da ste postavili ne samo jednu ili dve već višestruke opklade koje su prekršile pravilo maksimalne opklade dok ste igrali sa bonusom (posebno Bonus VIP TG Advent Special) mnogo iznad ograničenja, ne možemo pripisati kršenje samo pukoj slučajnosti i kazino je postupio u skladu sa svojim uslovima. U ovom trenutku niste imali nikakva prava novčana sredstva na svom saldu; igrali ste isključivo sa bonus sredstvima.
Ono što je najvažnije, tražio sam da budem isključen sa sajta najmanje četiri puta nedavno, posebno u decembru, a oni to tek treba da urade.
Vi ste „zvanično" zatražili samoisključivanje 20.12.2024 iz razloga koje ste naveli u svom imejlu. Mogu da se složim sa vama da je kazino tim trebao mnogo brže da reaguje u zatvaranju vašeg naloga, ali u ovom trenutku, stanje na vašem računu je bilo prazno, a vi niste izvršili nijedan depozit, tako da niste izgubili sredstva koja je kazino tim trebalo bi da vam se vrati od 20.12.2024 do potpunog zatvaranja naloga 19.01.2025.
Nadam se da je moje objašnjenje adekvatno razjasnilo situaciju. Iako se mogu složiti sa vama da je kazino tim mogao da zatvori vaš račun mnogo ranije, očekujemo da će to biti učinjeno što je pre moguće, međutim, pošto niste uplatili nijedan depozit od 20. decembra 2024. godine, nema sredstava koja kazino je dužan da vam vrati novac.
Shvatam da ovaj odgovor možda nije u skladu sa vašim očekivanjima, i zaista saosećam sa vašom situacijom; međutim, zbog kršenja maksimalne opklade, kazino tim je postupio u skladu sa odredbama i uslovima na koje ste pristali prilikom otvaranja naloga. Obavestite me ako vam zatreba pomoć oko bilo čega drugog ili mogu li da nastavim sa zatvaranjem ovog slučaja.
Thank you for the response and the evidence you provided, 20Bet Casino team.
Dear Liageokrik,
After gathering all the necessary information and evidence, including your game log, I'm afraid I cannot pursue your case.
I will try to offer our take on all the circumstances.
When I reached the desired amount, I requested a withdrawal. However, the transfer didn't happen for at least 2-3 days, possibly even longer.
I can understand that you desired to receive the withdrawal quickly; we would also like to see the withdrawals processed the same day as they were requested, but there are various factors that influence this process, and it is nothing unusual that this takes a few working days. Sadly, you took the action to cancel the withdrawals, and you later unitilized the funds for playing. This decision was solely your, and the casino team has not done anything wrong. Players need to be patient.
on 5/12 where €19.95 was won from there I had to reach €2000 with these 19.95, which I did without exceeding the maximum bet of €5.
Sadly, this is not correct. It was on 05.12. 2024, while having an active bonus where you repeatedly exceed the maximum bet amount. While we believe that the maximum bet should be automatically implemented by the software to prevent players from unintentionally breaching this rule, it is not yet an industry standard as every casino uses its own platform software. Given that you placed not just one or two but multiple bets that breached the maximum bet rule while playing with a bonus (particularly the Bonus VIP TG Advent Special) way above the limit, we cannot attribute the breach to be just a mere coincidence, and the casino has acted in accordance with its terms and conditions. You didn't have any real money funds in your balance at this time; you were solely playing with bonus funds.
Most importantly, I have requested to be excluded from the site at least four times recently, specifically in December, and they have yet to do so.
You have "officially" requested self-exclusion on 20.12.2024 due to the reasons you mentioned in your email. I can agree with you that the casino team should have acted much quicker in closing your account, but at this time, your account balance was empty, and you had not made any deposits, thus you didn't lose any funds that the casino team should return to you from 20.12.2024 until your account was fully closed at 19.01.2025.
I hope that my explanation has adequately clarified the situation. While I can agree with you that the casino team could have closed your account much sooner, we expect this to be done as soon as possible, however, since you have not made any deposits since December 20, 2024, there are no funds that the casino is obligated to refund to you.
I realize this response may not align with your expectations, and I truly empathize with your situation; however, because of the max bet breach, the casino team acted according to the terms and conditions you agreed to when opening your account. Please let me know if you need assistance with anything else or if I can proceed with closing this case.
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