Ovo zaposleni ne mogu prevideti, i moram dodati da su zaposleni ove informacije dobijali i putem ćaskanja pre nego što je dugme za ćaskanje deaktivirano. U ćaskanju je jednostavno navedeno da se ovo mora poslati putem imejla. Nakon toga, nalog nije blokiran 14 dana. Namerno!
Zaista. U ćaskanju ste zamoljeni da se pridržavate uslova odgovornog kockanja navedenih na veb-sajtu i da pošaljete imejl, tako da su pismeno obavešteni da želite da zatvorite nalog zbog zavisnosti od kockanja. Oni su samo sledili svoja pravila, ovde se ne vidi nikakvo većanje.
Štaviše, mogu da potvrdim da NOVAFORGE CASINOS imaju istu podršku, bez obzira na to koji kazino kontaktiraju. Oni ne rade nezavisno jedan od drugog, već jedni sa drugima i sa istim osobljem.
Samo zato što rade u istoj kancelariji, ne znači da svi znaju sve. U Kazino Guruu, neki od nas takođe rade u kancelariji, ali svako ima svoje slučajeve kojima se bavi, pa čak ni ja ne bih mogao da vam kažem sa kojim slučajevima se moje kolege bave, jer imam dovoljno svojih. NovaFordž poseduje mnogo kazina, ali njima upravljaju različite kompanije. Samo zato što koriste iste agente za podršku, ne znači da možemo ignorisati pravila. Njihova pravila nalažu da svaki kazino posluje nezavisno i stoga se svako mora isključiti iz svakog posebno. Slažem se da je ovo zamorno i nije jednostavno za korišćenje, ali takav je industrijski standard (koji pokušavamo polako da promenimo prema igračima) i moramo da se pridržavamo.
Zato sam ponovo mogao da prokockam toliko novca. NovaForge kazina su jedina kazina gde mogu da se registrujem; svuda drugde sam zabranjen.
Sinoć sam uspeo da se registrujem u kazinu NovaForge i nastavljam da dobijam reklame od ove grupe.
U svom imejlu sam posebno zatražio zabranu od ove grupe kompanija – od svih kazina, uključujući i Anjouan Gaming – kako više ne bih mogao da igram. Ali sama upozorenja putem imejla i SMS poruka su veoma uznemirujuća – i oni to veoma dobro znaju.
Tačno. Registrujete se u kazinu - automatski se slažete sa primanjem njihovih marketinških materijala, osim ako se ručno ne odjavite. Međutim, ako primate marketinške materijale iz kazina iz kojih bi trebalo da budete isključeni zbog zavisnosti od kockanja, to bi bio problem koji vredi istražiti.
Pošto imate ozbiljan problem sa kockanjem, toplo bih preporučio da instalirate besplatnu aplikaciju BetBlocker ( https://betblocker.org/de/ ) na svoj mobilni i desktop/laptop računar kako biste bili bezbedni. Neka vam ćerka podesi lozinku (što će osigurati da ne možete sami da deinstalirate ili isključite aplikaciju) i to će vam automatski sprečiti pristup sajtovima za kockanje - uključujući i NovaForge kazina - i verujem da će ovo biti odličan prvi korak ka oporavku.
Zatim bih preporučio da potražite stručnu pomoć. Ako želite, možete mi poslati imejl u svom gradu stanovanja na matej.l@casino.guru , i proveriću našu sveobuhvatnu bazu podataka centara za pomoć u vašoj blizini. Oni vam mogu pomoći u borbi protiv zavisnosti lično, putem telefona ili imejla - u zavisnosti od vaših želja. Pomoć je dostupna i ne morate sami da patite.
Veoma mi je tužno i nehumano što se pitanje zavisnosti od kockanja tretira na ovaj način i što institucije poput vaše zapravo više podržavaju kazina.
Zaista mi je žao što se tako osećate. Ako proverite žalbe u vezi sa samoisključivanjem objavljene na našem sajtu, videćete da smo zapravo veoma strogi prema kazinima i, osim ako se ne dokaže suprotno, uvek stajemo na stranu igrača.
Ali koliko god zahtevamo od kazina da se pridržavaju pravila odgovornog kockanja i našeg Kodeksa za fer kockanje , takođe stavljamo deo odgovornosti na same igrače, kako bi stvari bile fer. Imali smo previše slučajeva gde igrači svesno izbegavaju čekove i kreiraju više naloga, koriste anonimne kazina bez KYC provera i bez potrebe za popunjavanjem akreditiva prilikom registracije, da bi mogli da igraju. Nakon što izgube novac, tvrde da su zavisni od kockanja kako bi vratili svoje depozite. Ne kažem da je ovo vaš slučaj, ali zbog ovakvih slučajeva, moramo da se pobrinemo da sami igrači pokažu dovoljan trud u samoisključivanju.
Pošto imejlovi mogu kasniti ili se izgubiti, slanje jedne poruke (ili nejasno navođenje da imate problema sa kockanjem) ne smatramo dovoljnim naporom. Mogli ste da se raspitate ili pošaljete drugu poruku (čak i više poruka) podršci u vezi sa stanjem obrade vašeg samoisključenja ako niste dobili odgovor u roku od 48 sati. Koliko god da imamo stav „za igrače", takođe moramo biti fer prema obema stranama u sporu, što se nadamo da možete videti i prihvatiti nakon objašnjenja.
Rezime: kazino je primio zahtev igrača za samoisključenje 26. marta, trajno zatvorio nalog 15. aprila i već je igraču vratio 100€ koji su uplaćeni u tom periodu, nema više šta da se uradi. Zbog gore navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što nismo mogli više da pomognemo ovom prilikom. Slobodno nas kontaktirajte ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti.
This cannot be overlooked by employees, and I must add that employees also received this information via chat before the chat button was deactivated. The chat simply stated that this had to be sent via email. After that, the account was not blocked for 14 days. Deliberately!
Indeed. The chat has asked you to follow the Responsible gambling conditions stated on the website and send an e-mail, so they have it in writing you would like to close the account due to the gambling addiction. They just followed their own rules, no deliberation can be seen here.
Furthermore, I can confirm that NOVAFORGE CASINOS have the same support, regardless of which casino they contact. They don't work independently of each other, but rather with each other and with the same staff.
Just because they work in the same office, it does not mean everyone knows everything. At Casino Guru, some of us also work in the office, yet everyone has their own cases they deal with, and even I could not tell you what cases my colleagues are dealing with, as I have enough of my own. NovaForge owns many casinos, but those are operated by different companies. Just because they use the same support agents, doesn't mean we can ignore the rules. Their rules state that each casino operates independently and therefore one needs to exclude themselves from each separately. I agree this is tedious and not user-friendly, but such is the industry standard (that we are trying to slowly change towards the players) and we have to comply.
That's why I was able to gamble away so much money again. NovaForge Casinos are the only casinos where I can register; I'm banned everywhere else.
Yesterday evening I was able to register at a NovaForge Casino and I continue to receive advertising from this group.
In my email, I specifically requested a ban from this group of companies – from all casinos, including Anjouan Gaming – so that I can no longer play. But the warnings via email and text message alone are very triggering – and they know that very well.
Exactly. You register in a casino - you automatically agree with receiving their marketing materials, unless you manually unsubscribe. However, if you are receiving marketing materials from casinos where you are supposed to be excluded due to the gambling addiction, that would be a problem worth investigating.
Since you have a serious gambling problem, I would strongly recommend installing free app BetBlocker (https://betblocker.org/de/) on your mobile and desktop/laptop computer to keep you safe. Have your daughter to set up a password for you (which will ensure you can't uninstall or turn off the app yourself) and it will automatically prevent you from accessing gambling sites - including NovaForge casinos - and I believe this will be great first step towards the recovery.
Next, I would recommend seeking professional help. If you would like, you can e-mail me your town of residence at matej.l@casino.guru, and I will check our comprehensive database of help centres in your vicinity. They can help you fight the addiction either in person, via phone, or e-mails - depends on your preference. Help is available, and you don't have to suffer on your own.
I find it very sad and inhumane that the issue of gambling addiction is being treated in this way and that institutions like yours actually support the casinos more.
I am truly sorry you feel that way. If you check the complaints regarding self-exclusion published on our site, you will see we are actually very stern with the casinos and unless proven otherwise, we always take the player's side.
But as much as we require casinos to adhere to the responsible gambling rules and our Fair Gambling Codex, we also place some responsibility on the players themselves, to keep things fair. We have had too many cases where players knowingly avoid checks and create multiple accounts, use anonymous casinos with no KYC checks and no need to fill out credentials upon registration, to be able to play. After losing money, they claim gambling addiction to get their deposits back. I am not saying this is your case, but because of cases like these, we have to make sure players themselves show sufficient effort in self-excluding themselves.
Since e-mails can get delayed or lost, sending one message (or not clearly stating having gambling issues), is not considered a sufficient effort by us. You could have inquired or sent another message (even multiple messages) to the support, regarding the state of your self-exclusion processing, if you did not receive the response within 48 hours. As much as we have a pro-player stance, we also need to be fair to the both sides of the dispute, which hopefully you can see and accept after the explanation.
Summary: the casino has received the player's self-exclusion request on 26th March, closed the account permanently on 15th April and already has refunded the player 100€ that were deposited in that time, there is nothing more to be done. Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
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