Zdravo
Osvojio sam ukupno 1814 dolara od depozita od 900 dolara 26. februara. Moj nalog je prethodno verifikovan i imao sam uspešne isplate u prošlosti, tako da nisam očekivao nikakve probleme.
Počeli su da traže dodatnu dokumentaciju, koju sam počeo da dostavljam. U početku je bilo nesporazuma, u potpunosti uzrokovanog time što nisu bili precizni u vezi sa tim šta žele od mene. Međutim, na kraju su ipak tražili izvod iz banke koji pokazuje moje depozite u njihovom kazinu, i tu su problemi počeli.
Ja sam iz Banke Montreala - BMO. Ne možete generisati izvod na zahtev od njih, tako da samo morate da sačekate da istekne vaš period od 30 dana i tada ćete dobiti generisan izvod. Ponekad je to duže od 30 dana jer to ne rade tokom državnih praznika ili vikenda. Pošto još uvek nisam mogao da dobijem svoj najnoviji depozit na kompletnom izvodu, dostavio sam snimke ekrana, uključujući i iz moje banke, i moju potvrdu o elektronskom transferu Gigadat (koja ionako dokazuje transakciju), ali su insistirali na kompletnom izvodu, tako da sam samo morao da sačekam da se generiše.
Jesam dao izvod koji pokriva deo februara, ali moji izvodi stižu na promenljivi datum između 20. i 25. u mesecu, tako da nije sve pokriveno.
Moj martovski novac je generisan pre oko nedelju dana i pokrivao je ostatak februara, pa sam otišao u njihov kazino da ga otpremim, samo da bih otkrio da mi je nalog zaključan. Kada sam ih pitao šta se desilo, dobio sam ovu e-poštu
Zdravo, Rene
Nadam se da će te ova poruka zateći dobro.
Vaš nalog je zatvoren u skladu sa našim uslovima i odredbama:
10.4 Od vas se zahteva da brzo dostavite sva tražena dokumenta i informacije i da nam pomognete u obavljanju naših provera bez odlaganja, u roku od petnaest (15) dana od našeg zahteva. Ovo uključuje, ali nije ograničeno na, pravilno overene identifikacione dokumente, dokaz o
prebivalište, dokaz o vlasništvu za vaše načine plaćanja, detalje o vašem izvoru sredstava i bogatstvu, zajedno sa istorijom vaših finansijskih transakcija kao što su izvodi iz banke ili kreditne/debitne kartice.
Cenimo vaše razumevanje. Ukoliko imate bilo kakvih pitanja, slobodno nas kontaktirajte.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Rebeka
Tim za podršku kazina
Onda sam odgovorio
Zdravo
Apsolutno ne prihvatam vaš odgovor i želeo bih da započnem postupak žalbe.
Nametnuli ste mi zahtev za kompletan izvod iz banke bez prethodnog upozorenja, a onda sam morao da čekam da BMO generiše izvod. Izgleda da niste pročitali ovaj deo mog prethodnog imejla, ali je nemoguće generisati BMO izvod samo zato što ga želite. Morate da sačekate da ih BMO izda, što se u mom slučaju dešava oko 20. u mesecu, ali može biti i kasnije ako su praznici ili vikendi. To znači da sam tek sada dobio izvod i bilo je nemoguće da ga dobijem u roku od 15 dana.
Želeo bih da zatražim preispitivanje, s obzirom da ste mi postavili nemoguć zahtev nad kojim nisam imao nikakvu kontrolu. Čak i da sam posetio BMO da zatražim aktuelni izvod, odgovor bi bio ne. Štaviše, nisam obavešten da imam 15 dana, a da jesam, sve bih to objasnio u to vreme. Pored toga, dostavljanje dokumenta malo kasnije nego što ste želeli ne predstavlja pravedan ili razuman izgovor za zaplenu stanja na mom računu; uslov koji ste tamo naveli očigledno ne bi izdržao test bilo kakve žalbe ili pravnog spora.
Srdačan pozdrav
Rene
Zatim sam odgovorio tražeći da započne njihov zvanični postupak žalbi i da ni u jednom trenutku tokom procesa podnošenja dokumentacije nisam obavešten da je u procesu određen proizvoljan i nepravedan rok od 15 dana (koji je od samog početka bilo nemoguće poštovati).
Samo su odgovorili pozivajući se na svoje uslove i odredbe.
Ponovo sam odgovorio pitajući da li ignorišu moj zahtev da započnu postupak žalbe.
Potpisali su se sa sledećim
Zdravo Rene,
Želeli smo da vas kontaktiramo u vezi sa vašim zahtevom.
Izgleda da je naša prepiska postala ponavljajuća. Molimo vas da imate u vidu da smo već dostavili sve relevantne informacije u vezi sa vašim upitom. Stoga, na sve dalje poruke koje sadrže isto pitanje nećemo dobiti odgovor.
Ukoliko imate bilo kakvih drugih nedoumica, slobodno nam se obratite.
Hvala vam na razumevanju!
Srdačan pozdrav,
Fredi
Tim za podršku kazina
Kao što vidite, sada mi neće odgovoriti.
Ne vidim nijedan scenario u kojem je način na koji su postupili razuman ili pravedan. BDMbet me je doveo u nemoguću poziciju. Podležem BMO-ovoj politici objavljivanja saopštenja u periodu od 30 dana, tako da je očigledno pogrešno od strane BDM-a da kaže ili insinuira da sam mogao drugačije da uradim.
Štaviše, već sam dostavio validan dokaz o svom depozitu i sve vreme sam pokazivao svoju jasnu nameru da im pomognem sa njihovim zahtevima.
Hello
I won a total of $1814 from a $900 deposit on Feb 26th. My account was previously verified and I'd had successful cash-outs in the past, so I wasn't expecting any problems.
They began asking for additional documentation, which I began providing. There was initially some miscommunication, entirely caused by them not being specific about what it was they wanted from me. However they did eventually ask for a bank statement showing my deposits to their casino, and this is where the problems began.
I'm with Bank of Montreal - BMO. You can't generate a statement on demand from them, so you just have to wait until your rolling 30 day period is up and you then get a statement generated. Sometimes it's longer than 30 days because they won't do it over public holidays or weekends. Since I couldn't get my most recent deposit on a full statement yet, I provided screenshots including from my bank, and of my Gigadat etransfer receipt (which proves the transaction anyway), but they insisted on the full statement, so I just had to wait for it to generated.
I did provide a statement covering some of Feb, but my statements arrive on a variable date between the 20th-25th each month so not all of it was covered.
My March generated around a week ago, and covered the remainder of February, and so I went to their casino to upload it only to find that my account was locked. When I asked them what had happened, I got this email
Hello, Renee
I hope this message finds you well.
Your account has been closed in accordance with our terms and conditions:
10.4 You are required to provide any requested documents and information swiftly and assist us in completing our Verification Checks without delay, within fifteen (15) days of our request. This includes, but is not limited to, properly certified identification documents, proof of
residence, evidence of ownership for your payment methods, details regarding your source of funds and wealth, along with your financial transaction history such as bank or credit/debit card statements.
We appreciate your understanding. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.
Best regards,
Rebecca
Casino Support Team
I then replied
Hello
I absolutely do not accept your answer and I would like to begin your complaints process.
You sprung the requirement for a full bank statement on me with no prior warning, and then I had to wait for BMO to generate a statement. It looks like you didn't read this part of my prior email, but it is impossible to generate a BMO statement just because you want one. You have to wait for BMO to issue them, which in my case happens around the 20th or so of each month, but can be later if there's holidays or weekends. This means I only just obtained my statement and it was impossible to get one within 15 days.
I would like to ask for a review, given you set me an impossible requirement that I had no control over. Even if I had visited BMO to ask for a current statement the answer would have been no. Furthermore, I was not informed that I had 15 days, and if I had been informed I would have explained all of this at the time. In addition to this, providing the document slightly later than you wanted does not constitute a fair or reasonable excuse to seize my account balance; the term and condition that you have cited there would blatantly not stand up under the test of any appeal or legal dispute.
Kind regards
Renee
I then responded asking to begin their official complaints procedure, and that at no point during the doc submission process was I informed that an arbitrary and unfair 15 day clock (which was impossible from the outset to comply with) had been placed on the process.
They just replied citing their terms and conditions.
I replied again asking if they were ignoring my request to begin their complaints process.
They signed off with the following
Hello Renee,
We wanted to reach out regarding your request.
It appears that our correspondence has become repetitive. Please be advised that we have already provided all relevant information concerning your inquiry. Therefore, any further messages containing the same question will not receive a response.
Should you have any other concerns, please feel free to reach out to us.
Thank you for understanding!
Best regards,
Freddie
Casino Support Team
As you can see, they're now not going to respond to me.
I can't see any scenario under which the way they've acted is reasonable or fair. I was placed in an impossible position by BDMbet. I am subject to BMO's policy of issuing statements on a rolling 30 day period, so it is plainly wrong for BDM to say or insinuate that I could have done anything differently.
Furthermore, I had already provided valid proof of my deposit, and throughout I demonstrated my clear intent to assist them with their requests.
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