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The player from Brazil had won $900 after using 10 free spins, but the casino had set a rollover requirement of $7,000 instead of the expected $1,560 (calculated as 60 times the original $26). The player had claimed that this was the second time such an issue had occurred. The casino had responded by explaining that the player had existing wagering requirements from previous bonuses, which were added to the new bonus. We had found this practice fair for consecutive no-deposit bonuses. The player had been given the option to clear the existing wager balance by making a deposit and claiming a new promotion. We had recommended the casino to clarify these rules in their terms and conditions to avoid future confusion. The player did not raise further objections, leading us to reject the complaint.
Igrač iz Brazila je osvojio 900 dolara nakon što je iskoristio 10 besplatnih okretaja, ali je kazino postavio zahtev za preokret od 7.000 dolara umesto očekivanih 1.560 dolara (izračunato kao 60 puta više od originalnih 26 dolara). Igrač je tvrdio da je ovo drugi put da se takav problem dogodio. Kazino je odgovorio objašnjenjem da igrač ima postojeće zahteve za klađenje iz prethodnih bonusa, koji su dodati novom bonusu. Smatrali smo da je ova praksa poštena za uzastopne bonuse bez depozita. Igraču je data mogućnost da izbriše postojeći saldo opklade tako što će uplatiti depozit i zatražiti novu promociju. Preporučili smo kazino da pojasni ova pravila u svojim uslovima i odredbama kako bismo izbegli buduće zabune. Igrač nije izneo dalje primedbe, što nas je navelo da odbacimo žalbu.
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Zdravo, osvojio sam 10 besplatnih okretaja.
Od 10 besplatnih okretaja, zaradio sam 26 dolara i nastavio da igram. Od tih 26 dolara zaradio sam 900 dolara. Kada sam otišao da povučem, iznos preokreta je bio 7000 dolara
Uzimajući u obzir da je iznos prevrtanja 60Ks.
Dakle, 60Ks26 = 1560, a ne 7000.
Hello, I won 10 free spins.
Out of the 10 free spins, I made $26 and continued to play. From those $26 I made $900. When I went to withdraw, the rollover amount was $7000
Considering the rollover amount is 60X .
So, 60X26= 1560, not 7000.
Olá, ganhei 10 rodadas grátis.
Das 10 rodadas grátis, fiz R$ 26 a ir fui jogando, desses 26$ fiz R$ 900,00 fui pedir o saque, o rollover e de R$ 7000,00
Por o rollover e de 60X .
Então 60X26= 1560 não 7000,00
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Dragi greennabet777,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju.
Možete li navesti tačan bonus koji ste aktivirali i igrali? U idealnom slučaju, želeo bih da dobijem preciznu vezu do tog bonusa.
Da li su besplatni okreti koje ste spomenuli bili komponenta bonusa za meč ili su odvojeni?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Zbog povećanog obima pritužbi u ovo doba godine, molimo za strpljenje dok čekamo naše odgovore. Cilj nam je da objavimo svaku žalbu u roku od 48 sati od podnošenja, ali zadržavamo do 7 dana da odgovorimo na sve naknadne komentare. Pored toga, imajte na umu da će možda biti potrebno malo duže da vaša žalba bude dodeljena rešavaču, jer trenutno upravljamo sa preko 800 žalbi.
Vaše razumevanje je veoma cenjeno. Želimo vam ugodne praznike, a mi ćemo vam se javiti što je pre moguće.
Dear greennabet777,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Can you please specify the exact bonus you activated and played? Ideally, I'd like to receive the precise link to that bonus.
Were the Free Spins you mentioned a component of a match bonus, or were they separate?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Due to the increased volume of complaints during this time of year, we kindly request your patience while awaiting our responses. We aim to publish each complaint within 48 hours of submission but reserve up to 7 days to reply to any subsequent comments. Additionally, please be aware that it might take a bit longer for your complaint to be assigned to a resolver, as we are currently managing over 800 complaints.
Your understanding is greatly appreciated. Wishing you a delightful holiday season, and we will get back to you as soon as possible.
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Zdravo, svake srede sajt nudi 10 besplatnih okretaja i nekoliko slotova.
I ovo je drugi put da se to dešava.
Ovog puta sam osvojio 10 besplatnih okretaja, i sa ovih 10 besplatnih okretaja, zaradio sam 26,00 R$ i od tih 26 R$ igrao sam i zaradio 900$ kada sam shvatio da sam već ispunio rolover, otišao sam da vidim iznos da se povučem, jer pročitaj pravila, dakle, bio sam tu da se kladim na više od 7 hiljada R$ da pustim povlačenje, a prevrtanje je bilo 60k ako se ne varam, kontaktirao sam ih, rekli su da moram da se kladim na taj iznos , da mogu napraviti povlačenje , kako je apsurdno. Molimo vas da pratite otiske
Hello, every Wednesday the site offers 10 free spins, and some Slots.
And this is the second time this has happened.
This time I won the 10 free spins, and with these 10 free spins, I made R$ 26.00 and from that R$ 26 I played and made 900$ when I realized that I had already fulfilled the rollover, I went to see the amount to withdraw, because read the rules, so, I was there to bet more than R$7 thousand to release the withdrawal, and the rollover was 60x if I'm not mistaken, I contacted them, they said that I had to bet that amount, to be able to make the withdrawal , how absurd. Follow the prints please
Olá, toda quarta feira o site disponibiliza, 10 rodadas grátis, e algum Slots.
E já é a segunda vez que isso acontece.
Dessas vez ganhei as 10 rodadas grátis, e com essas 10 rodadas grátis, fiz R$ 26,00 e desse R$ 26 fui jogando e fiz 900$ quando percebi que já tinha cumprido o rollover, fui ver o valor pra sacar, pq lir as regras, então, tava lá aposta mais de R$ 7mil pra libera o saque, sendo que o rollover era de 60x se não me engano, entrei em contato com eles, eles falaram que tinha que aposta esse valor, pra pode fazer o saque, que absurdo. Segue os prints por favor
Hvala vam puno, greennabet777, na pružanju svih potrebnih informacija. Sada ću vašu žalbu preneti kolegi Pavelu ( pavel.k@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, greennabet777, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Pavel (pavel.k@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
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Zdravo, greennabet777!
Hvala na strpljenju. Sada ću se pobrinuti za vašu žalbu i nadam se da ćemo zajedno rešiti problem.
Želeo bih da pozovem kazino da im pruži priliku da objasne svoju stranu situacije.
Hvala vam!
Hello, greennabet777!
Thank you for your patience. Now I will be taking care of your complaint and I hope that together we will resolve the problem.
I would like to invite the casino to give them a chance to explain their side of the situation.
Thank you!
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam što ste odvojili vreme da nam se obratite.
Želimo vam svima srećnu Novu godinu!!
Pregledali smo nalog greennabet777 i pronašli sledeće:
U ovom trenutku stanje opklade na njegovom računu iznosi 5530,25 BRL
Kada se zahtevaju promocije besplatnih okretaja, opklada promocije se dodaje postojećem stanju opklade.
Zbog toga se opklada nove promocije + postojeća opklada mora odigrati pre nego što se može podneti zahtev za povlačenje.
Ako greennabet777 želi da izbriše postojeći saldo opklade, to može učiniti tako što će napraviti depozit i zatražiti novu promociju.
Postojeća opklada će biti izbrisana, a nova će biti postavljena u skladu sa onim što je navedeno u novoj promociji.
Obavestite nas ako je potrebno još nešto.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Hello All,
Thank you for taking the time to reach out to us.
We wish you all a very Happy New Year!!
We have reviewed the account of greennabet777 and found the below:
At this moment the wager balance of his account is BRL 5530.25
When Free Spin Promotions are claimed, the wager of the promotion is added to the existing wager balance.
Therefore the wager of the new promotion + existing wager balance must be played before a withdarwal request can be submitted.
If greennabet777 wishes to clear the existing wager balance, he can do so by making a deposit and claiming a new promotion.
The existing wager will be cleared and the new wager will be set according to what is stated on the new promotion claimed.
Please let us know if anything further is needed.
Best regards,
Galactic Wins Representative
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Galactic Vins Representative, hvala!
Dakle, hoćete da kažete da je igrač imao uslov za klađenje od prethodnih bonusa bez depozita i da mu je dodato poslednje FS klađenje?
Galactic Wins Representative, thank you!
So, are you telling that the player has had wagering requirement left from previous no-deposit bonuses and the the latest FS wagering was added to it?
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Dragi moji,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Potvrđujem da se opklada svih besplatnih promocija dodaje postojećem stanju opklade na nalogu.
Igrač je imao postojeće stanje opklade na svom računu koje se povećalo sa višestrukim besplatnim bonusima koji su naknadno traženi.
Ako je potrebno još nešto, slobodno nas kontaktirajte.
Srdačan pozdrav.
Dear All,
Thank you for your reply.
I confirm that the wager of all free promotions are added to the existing wager balance on an account.
The player had an existing wager balance on his account which increased with the multiple free bonuses that were claimed thereafter.
If anything further is needed, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards.
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Predstavnici Galactic Vins, možete li me, molim vas, uputiti na paragraf u vezi sa zahtevima za naslagane opklade za bonuse bez depozita?
greennabet777, u međuvremenu, možete li potvrditi da imate igrača sa uzastopnim besplatnim bonusima, a da ne napravite depozit između?
Galactic Wins Representative, can you, please, point me toward the paragraph in terms about stacked wagering requirement for no-deposit bonuses?
greennabet777, meanwhile, can you confirm that you have player with consecutive free bonuses without making a deposit in between?
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Da, tog dana igrajte sa 10 besplatnih okretaja i
Ali ako se ne varam, jednom sam dao depozit,
I samo sam pogledao tamo i postoje zahtevi
06.01.2024 u 08:25
Yes, on that day play with 10 free spins and
But if I'm not mistaken, I once made a deposit,
And I just looked there and there are the requirements
01/06/2024 at 08:25
Sim, nesse dia jogue com os 10 giros grátis e
Mais se não me engano, uma vez fiz depósito,
E acabei de olhar lá ainda está o requisitos
06/01/2024 as 08:25
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Dragi moji,
Hvala vam što ste nam se obratili.
Kao što je traženo, obratite pažnju na naše uslove i odredbe u nastavku;
https://vvv.galacticvins.com/en/tnc
10. Bonusi i promocije
Kada uslovi bonusa uključuju ograničenja veličine dozvoljenih opklada, primenjivaće se sledeći principi: Kada se istovremeno primi više bonusa, primenjuju se ograničenja za najmanji bonus dok se opklada za taj bonus ne završi, zatim ograničenja za sledeći najmanji, itd. .
Kada se primi novi bonus dok još postoje uslovi klađenja iz prethodnog bonusa, ograničenja iz prethodnog bonusa će se primenjivati dok se ne ispune uslovi klađenja tog bonusa, a zatim će se primenjivati ograničenja novog bonusa.
Ako je potrebno još nešto, ne ustručavajte se da pitate.
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Thank you for reaching out to us.
As requested, please note our Terms and Conditions below;
https://www.galacticwins.com/en/tnc
10. Bonuses and Promotions
Where the bonus conditions include limits on the size of allowed wagers, the following principles will be applied: When multiple bonuses are received simultaneously, limits for smallest bonus apply until the wagering for that bonus is completed, then limits for next smallest, and so on.
When a new bonus is received while there are still wagering conditions from a previous bonus, the limits from the previous bonus will apply until the wagering requirements of that bonus are completed, and then the limits of the new bonus will apply.
If anything further is needed, please do not hesitate to ask.
Best regards,
Galactic Wins Representative
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Galaktički pobeđuje predstavnik,
Konsultovao sam se sa svojim timom i došli smo do zaključka da je fer zadržavanje uslova klađenja prethodnog bonusa bez depozita u slučaju njihovog uzastopnog potraživanja. Jedina preporuka koju možemo da damo je da se promeni pravilo u vezi sa ovom temom. U idealnom slučaju, to bi obavestilo igrače da se tiče samo uzastopnih besplatnih/bez depozitnih bonusa. Takođe, dodatak da je depozit potreban da bi se resetovao uslov klađenja koji je ostao od prethodno primljenih besplatnih bonusa pomogao bi igračima da se ne zbune.
greennabet777, prema našem iskustvu, u slučajevima kada igrači traže višestruke uzastopne bonuse bez depozita bez uplate bilo kakvog depozita između njih, kazina obično konfiskuju svoje dobitke. Smatramo da je to pošteno, jer se ne odnosi na nikakva prava (deponovana) sredstva, već samo na besplatni novac, koji je kazino dodelio kao bonus. U vašem slučaju, kazino je, umesto da konfiskuje vaš dobitak, odlučio da vam dozvoli da završite preostalo klađenje sa vašim nedavnim dobicima. Za nas je to bolji slučaj od konfiskacije, jer još uvek imate šansu da pobedite. Molim vas, recite mi šta mislite i da li ćete pokušati da uložite svoj dobitak.
Galactic Wins Representative,
I have consulted with my team and we have arrived to the conclusion that keeping wagering requirement of previous no-deposit bonus in case of their consecutive claim is fair. The one recommendation, that we may give is to make change in the rule regarding this topic. Ideally, it would inform players that it concerns only consecutive free/no-deposit bonuses. Also, the addition that deposit is required to reset the wagering requirement which is left from previously received free bonuses would help players to not get confused.
greennabet777, according to our experience, in cases where players claim multiple consecutive no-deposit bonuses without making any deposit between them casinos usually confiscate their winnings. We consider it fair, because it does not apply to any real (deposited) funds, only to free money, which were granted as a bonus by the casino. In your case, casino, instead of confiscating your winnings, has decided to let you finish remaining wagering with your recent winnings. For us, it is the better case, than the confiscation, because you still have the chance to win. Please, let me know what you think and if you will try to wager your winnings.
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Dragi moji,
Hvala vam puno na preporuci.
Uzećemo to u obzir.
Obavestite me ako je potrebno još nešto.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Dear All,
Thank you very much for your recommendation.
We will take it into advisement.
Please let me know if anything further is needed.
Best regards,
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Zdravo, ne razumem!?
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Hello, I don't understand.!?
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Olá, não entendi.!?
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Ako želite detaljno objašnjenje, pogledajte moju poslednju poruku iznad.
Jednostavnije objašnjenje: slaganje zahteva za klađenje je u redu po nama, ako želite da povučete dobitke koje sada imate, trebalo bi da završite sve klađenje koje imate (što je ostalo od prethodnih bonusa). Takođe, imate mogućnost da uplatite i uzmete novi bonus (u tom slučaju ćete imati uslov za klađenje samo za novi bonus), ali, ako sam dobro razumeo, stari dobici će biti zaplenjeni, ali nisam siguran u to deo. U zaključku, da biste podigli dobitke koje sada imate, morate završiti klađenje koje vam je ostalo na računu. Ako imate još pitanja, ne ustručavajte se pitati!
If you want detailed explanation, please, refer to my last message above.
The simpler explanation: stacking wagering requirements is okay according to us, if you want to withdraw winnings that you have now, you should finish all wagering that you have (which is left from previous bonuses). Also, you have the option to deposit and take the new bonus (in that case you will have wagering requirement only for the new bonus), but, if I understand correctly, your old winnings will be confiscated, but I am not sure about that part. In conclusion, to withdraw winnings you have now, you must finish wagering you have left in your account. If you have any more questions, do not hesitate to ask!
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Pa, s obzirom na to da igrač nema više primedbi i saznali smo da je žalba bila na pravilo koje smatramo poštenim, nemam drugog izbora nego da ovu žalbu odbijem.
Želeo bih da se zahvalim greennabet777 na strpljenju i razumevanju i Galactic Vins Predstavniku na njihovom detaljnom objašnjenju i pomoći.
Well, given that the player does not have any more objections and we have learnt that the complaint has been regarding the rule that we consider fair, I have no other choice, but to reject this complaint.
I would like to thank greennabet777 for their patience and understanding and Galactic Wins Representative for their detailed explanation and help.
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