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The player from Quebec had been waiting for a withdrawal for less than two weeks. Unfortunately, their payout had not been received yet. The Complaints Team investigated the player's claim that the casino had retroactively applied a maximum win cap, withheld winnings, deleted game history, and failed to provide timely responses. Despite the player providing KYC verification and evidence, the casino delayed resolution and raised concerns about account legitimacy and possible impersonation. Due to multiple violations of the complaint forum's rules by the player, including offensive language and account security breaches, the Complaints Team closed and rejected the complaint as final.
Igrač iz Kvebeka je čekao na isplatu manje od dve nedelje. Nažalost, njegova isplata još uvek nije primljena. Tim za žalbe je istražio tvrdnju igrača da je kazino retroaktivno primenio ograničenje maksimalnog dobitka, zadržao dobitke, obrisao istoriju igara i nije blagovremeno odgovorio. Uprkos tome što je igrač pružio KYC verifikaciju i dokaze, kazino je odložio rešavanje i izrazio zabrinutost u vezi sa legitimnošću naloga i mogućim lažnim predstavljanjem. Zbog višestrukih kršenja pravila foruma za žalbe od strane igrača, uključujući uvredljiv jezik i kršenje bezbednosti naloga, Tim za žalbe je zatvorio i odbacio žalbu kao konačnu.
Dana 31. oktobra 2025. godine, ja, korisnik *******, uložio sam 27 evra na igru sa kockicama u kazinu Gamba ciljajući množitelj od 3168x, dostigavši 99,98. Prikazana isplata je bila 87.675,98 evra (u XRP-u). Međutim, kazino je dodelio samo 10.000 evra, navodeći „maksimalni limit isplate" koji nikada nije otkriven pre, tokom ili posle opklade.
Takvo ograničenje dobitka se ne pojavljuje u Dice interfejsu, pravilima igre ili javnim Uslovima i odredbama kompanije Gamba. Sajt otvoreno oglašava multiplikatore koji prelaze 3000x, što navodi svakog razumnog igrača da očekuje punu isplatu ako se postigne. Zadržavanje preko 77.000 evra pod neotkrivenim ograničenjem krši i obaveze fer-pleja i transparentnosti prema okviru Anjouan Gaming License.
Ovaj slučaj odražava obrazac prethodnog nedoličnog ponašanja gde je Gamba zadržavao dobitke ili menjao evidenciju kako bi izbegao isplatu:
Igračeva sredstva su zaplenjena pod lažnim tvrdnjama da se nalaze u ograničenom regionu. Kazino je kasnije ponudio samo delimičnu isplatu (6.500 evra) nakon eskalacije žalbe.
Igrač optužen za „eksploataciju rudnika" nakon legitimnih pobeda. Nalog je zaključan, a isplata odložena uprkos potpunoj usklađenosti sa KYC-om.
Slučaj 3: Igrač „A1one" (maj 2024) —
Dobici u Keno igri velike vrednosti obrisani su nakon sporova oko isplate. Gamba je obrisala istoriju opklada, uklanjajući dokaze o legitimnim rezultatima.
Ovi incidenti zajedno pokazuju ponavljajuće prakse neisplaćivanja i retroaktivno opravdanje za zadržavanje sredstava igrača.
Gambini uslovi korišćenja su dvosmisleni, nepotpuni i obmanjujući. Nijedan odeljak ne otkriva maksimalni limit isplate za bilo koju igru. Vizuelni interfejs je eksplicitno prikazivao potencijalne nagrade na osnovu množitelja 3168x, stvarajući jasno i razumno očekivanje pune isplate.
Prema pravnoj doktrini contra proferentem, dvosmisleni ili neotkriveni uslovi se tumače na štetu sastavljača ugovora (ovde, kazina). Štaviše, izostavljanje ograničenja dobitka predstavlja pogrešno predstavljanje izostavljanjem, jer je platforma predstavila tabelu isplata koja sugeriše suprotno. Pored toga što nema kontrole verzija ili opcije prihvatanja bilo kakvih izmena uslova, onemogućava se njihovo upoznavanje bez jasnog označavanja ograničenja uloga.
Takva skrivena ograničenja krše industrijske standarde i principe fer kockanja koje sprovode Komisija za kockanje Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva, Uprava za kockanje Malte i Komisija za kockanje Anžuana, a sve te kompanije zahtevaju da ograničenja isplata budu jasno vidljiva pre početka igre.
Stoga, ograničenje od 10.000 evra je neprimenljivo, jer nije ni objavljeno niti dogovoreno. Igrač se u dobroj veri oslonio na oglašene mehanizme isplate, a sprovođenje skrivenih uslova krši doktrinu informisanog pristanka i utvrđene norme zaštite potrošača.
Gambini uslovi i odredbe daju sebi neograničeno diskreciono pravo da zadrži, poništi ili prilagodi dobitke „po sopstvenom nahođenju" bez ikakvih objektivnih kriterijuma. Takvo jednostrano ovlašćenje direktno krši Direktivu EU 93/13/EEZ o nepoštenim ugovornim uslovima i Anžuanski kodeks ponašanja, koji zabranjuju proizvoljne ili neprozirne ugovorne klauzule u igrama na sreću.
Uslovi takođe ne definišu nadležnu jurisdikciju ili mesto za rešavanje sporova, nejasno se pozivajući na „jurisdikciju u kojoj Gamba posluje". Ovaj nedostatak preciznosti čini ugovor ništavnim zbog neizvesnosti i sprečava igrače da razumeju svoja prava.
Štaviše, Gamba zadržava pravo da „izmeni ove uslove u bilo kom trenutku sa trenutnim dejstvom", dozvoljavajući retroaktivne izmene čak i nakon što su opklade postavljene — praksa koja je široko priznata kao nepravedna i nevažeća i u ugovornom i u pravu kockanja.
Zajedno, ove odredbe uspostavljaju obrazac nejasnog, sebičnog i neregulisanog ovlašćenja, što je u skladu sa obavezama fer-kockanje iz Anžuanske licence.
Zvanično zahtevam hitnu isplatu zadržanih 77.675,98 evra (u XRP) i pisano objašnjenje u kojem se navodi konkretna ugovorna klauzula ili regulativna politika kojom se odobrava ovo ograničenje isplate.
Ako se ovo pitanje ne reši brzo, proslediću žalbu Komisiji za igre na sreću Anžuana i zadržavam pravo da zatražim dodatnu pravnu zaštitu, uključujući tužbe za kršenje ugovora, lošu veru i posledičnu štetu koja proizilazi iz zadržanog iznosa.
Postupci kazina Gamba – ponovljeni u slučajevima više igrača – pokazuju kontinuirano nepoštovanje transparentnosti, zaštite potrošača i obaveza fer-pleja prema međunarodnim standardima igara na sreću.
On October 31, 2025, I, user *******, placed a €27 bet on Gamba Casino’s Dice game targeting a 3168x multiplier, hitting 99.98. The displayed payout was €87,675.98 (in XRP). However, the casino credited only €10,000, citing a "maximum payout limit" that was never disclosed before, during, or after the bet.
No such win cap appears in the Dice interface, game rules, or Gamba’s public Terms & Conditions. The site openly advertises multipliers exceeding 3000x, which leads any reasonable player to expect full payout if achieved. Withholding over €77,000 under an undisclosed cap violates both fair play and transparency obligations under the Anjouan Gaming License framework.
This case reflects a pattern of prior misconduct where Gamba withheld winnings or altered records to avoid payout:
The player’s funds were seized under false claims of being in a restricted region. Casino later offered only partial payment (€6,500) after complaint escalation.
Player accused of "mines exploitation" after legitimate wins. Account locked and payment delayed despite full KYC compliance.
Case 3: Player "A1one" (May 2024) —
High-value Keno wins deleted after payout disputes. Gamba erased bet history, removing proof of legitimate results.
These incidents collectively show recurring nonpayment practices and retroactive justification for withholding player funds.
Gamba’s Terms & Conditions are ambiguous, incomplete, and misleading. No section discloses a maximum payout limit for any game. The visual interface explicitly displayed potential rewards based on the 3168x multiplier, creating a clear and reasonable expectation of full payout.
Under the legal doctrine of contra proferentem, ambiguous or undisclosed terms are interpreted against the drafter (here, the casino). Moreover, the omission of a win cap constitutes misrepresentation by omission, since the platform presented a payout table suggesting otherwise. In addition to no version control or opt in acknowledging any changes to the terms, make these impossible to know without clear signage on the bet caps.
Such hidden restrictions breach industry standards and fair gaming principles enforced by the UK Gambling Commission, Malta Gaming Authority, and Anjouan Gaming Commission, all of which require payout limits to be clearly visible before gameplay.
Therefore, the €10,000 limitation is unenforceable, as it was neither disclosed nor agreed upon. The player relied on the advertised payout mechanics in good faith, and enforcement of hidden terms violates the doctrine of informed consent and established consumer protection norms.
Gamba’s T&C grant itself unlimited discretion to withhold, void, or adjust winnings "at its sole discretion" without any objective criteria. Such one-sided authority directly violates EU Directive 93/13/EEC on Unfair Contract Terms and the Anjouan Code of Conduct, which prohibit arbitrary or opaque contract clauses in gaming operations.
The terms also fail to define a governing jurisdiction or dispute resolution venue, vaguely referring to "the jurisdiction where Gamba operates." This lack of specificity makes the contract void for uncertainty and prevents players from understanding their rights.
Furthermore, Gamba reserves the right to "amend these terms at any time with immediate effect," allowing retroactive changes even after bets are placed — a practice broadly recognized as unfair and invalid in both contract and gaming law.
Together, these provisions establish a pattern of vague, self-serving, and unregulated authority, inconsistent with the Anjouan license’s fair gaming obligations.
I formally request the immediate release of the withheld €77,675.98 (in XRP) and a written explanation identifying the specific contractual clause or governing policy authorizing this payout limitation.
If this matter is not resolved promptly, I will escalate the complaint to the Anjouan Gaming Commission and reserve the right to seek additional legal recourse, including claims for contractual breach, bad faith, and consequential damages arising from the withheld amount.
Gamba Casino’s actions — repeated across multiple player cases — demonstrate an ongoing disregard for transparency, consumer protection, and fair play obligations under international gaming standards.
Casino Guru nikada neće tražiti uplate ili pristup Vašem nalogu da bi se kompletirala KYC procedura. Ukoliko neko tvrdi da je iz našeg tima i traži nešto slično, nemojte deliti svoje lične informacije.
Mi isključivo kontaktiramo igrače kroz oficijalni kanal za prigovore ili putem @casino.guru e-mail adrese. Uvek proverite domen pošiljaoca i proverite email adresu tako što ćete kliknuti na avatar koji se vidi u okviru kanala za prigovore.
Ako Vam nešto izgleda sumnjivo, kontaktirajte nas direktno.
Ponašajte se odgovorno.
Important notice:
Casino Guru will never ask for payments or access to your accounts to complete KYC. If someone claims to be from Casino Guru and does that, do not share any information.
We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli prigovor. Žao nam je što čujemo za problem sa isplatom i razumemo vašu zabrinutost. Međutim, imajte na umu da je prilično uobičajeno da povlačenja potraju nekoliko dana ili čak nedelja da se u potpunosti obrađuju. To znači da može proći neko vreme pre nego što se novac pojavi na vašem računu. Ovo kašnjenje može biti uzrokovano nedovršenom KYC verifikacijom ili velikim brojem zahteva za isplate. Zbog toga savetujemo igrače da budu strpljivi, da u potpunosti sarađuju sa kazinom i da sačekaju najmanje 14 dana nakon zahteva za povlačenje pre nego što podnesu prigovor.
Ako je vaš nalog uspešno verifikovan, vaša istorija igara proverena, vaše povlačenje odobreno od strane kazina, a još uvek niste primili svoje dobitke 14 dana od zahteva za povlačenje, mi ćemo intervenisati i dati sve od sebe da vam pomognemo. Hvala unapred na strpljenju i razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav, Centar za rešavanje žalbi
Dear amigofivetwo,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests. That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.
If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you. Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.
Nadam se da ste dobro. Pošto je preporučeni vremenski okvir sada prošao, da li biste mogli da nas obavestite o tome da li je vaš zahtev za isplatu uspešno primljen ili da li je došlo do novih dešavanja u vezi sa vašim slučajem? Hvala vam na izdvojenom vremenu i radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Dear amigofivetwo,
I hope you are doing well. As the recommended time frame has now passed, could you kindly update us on whether your withdrawal has successfully been received or if there have been any new developments regarding your case? Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your response.
Pišem da se raspitam da li je normalno da kazinu trebaju dani/nedelja da odgovori? Ovo je jednostavan slučaj i odgovor koji mogu dati, pa pitam samo zato što ovo nije teško pitanje.
Hvala,
A52
Hello CG,
I am writing to inquire if this is normal for the casino to take days / week to reply? This is an easy case and answer they can give and so I just am asking since this is not a hard question.
Dragi amigofivetwo, hvala vam na odgovoru. Možete li, molim vas, podeliti svoju komunikaciju sa kazinom? Pošaljite imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju imejl adresu attila.g@casino.guru , ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde. Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Dear amigofivetwo, thank you for your response. Could you please share your communication with the casino? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at attila.g@casino.guru, or post screenshots here. I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Mihal ( michal.k@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
Trenutno nije potrebna nikakva akcija od vas. Vaš rešavač će vas kontaktirati putem ove teme ako budu potrebni dodatni detalji. Možete biti sigurni da je vaš slučaj u veoma sposobnim rukama.
Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila Gorkij
Dear amigofivetwo,
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Michal (michal.k@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
U redu, hvala vam na pažnji i brizi oko rešavanja ovog nedostatka sa Gamba kazinom.
Mihale - molim te, odvoji svo vreme potrebno da dođeš do zaključka. Bez žurbe, želim da podsetim i Gambu na moj prvobitni zahtev da izmirim uplatu ili će mi se u suprotnom proceniti odšteta zbog zlobe i kašnjenja. To je zapravo sada veoma neophodno, znajući istoriju zloupotrebe sa drugim velikim isplatama, ističući internu politiku zadržavanja isplata i brisanja važećih rezultata opklada. Moram da insistiram na uvođenju odvraćajuće mere kako bi se kazino pozvalo na odgovornost i to je ispravno i pravedno.
Šteta se u ovakvim slučajevima obično procenjuje po stopi od stvarne štete + naknade * 7 + fer tržišne kamatne stope za neobezbeđene kredite. Zbog količine, učestalosti i obrasca zloupotrebe, moram da zatražim da se u ovom slučaju proceni puni iznos kazne.
Šteta: 77.675 dolara
Kaznena odšteta = 77.675 dolara * 7 = 543.725 dolara
Obračunata kamata = 14,48% * 30 dana = 6.448,97 dolara
Ukupna šteta + kamata = 550.173,97 dolara
S poštovanjem,
A52
Okay, Tank you for the attention and concern addressing this shortfall with Gamba Casino.
Michal - please do take all the time necessary to reach a conclusion. Without rushing you, I do want to also remind Gamba my original demand to settle the payment or else be assessed with damages for malice and delay. It is actually quite necessary now knowing the history of misconduct with other large payouts, highlighting an internal policy of with holding cash outs and deleting valid bet results. I must insist a deterrent be imposed to hold accountability with the casino and it is proper and fair.
Damages are normally assessed in cases like this at a rate of Actual Damages + Fees * 7 + Fair market interest rates for unsecured loans. Due to the amount, frequency, and pattern of abuse I have to ask for the full punitive amount to be assessed in this case.
Želim da vam sada pokažem zašto nisam siguran u vezi sa ovim kazinom. Ranije danas, nakon pregleda, primetio sam da je ograničenje igre promenjeno sa 10 hiljada na 250 hiljada dolara.
Zanimljivo je, međutim, da tabela sa rezultatima dobitaka pokazuje još više: partnerski strimer kazina zapravo drži najveće dobitke pre moje pobede samo nekoliko nedelja, zatim je naizgled promenjeno na 10.000 dolara, ali se sada vratilo na 250.000 dolara.
Maksimalni limit dobitka je zapravo obmanjujući. U zavisnosti od toga koju originalnu igru vidite, zavisi i na koji maksimalni limit dobitka ste ograničeni, naizgled:
Kao deo naše posvećenosti poboljšanju iskustava i nagrada za igrače, trenutni maksimalni limit dobitka je postavljen na 25.000 dolara po rundi. Ovaj limit je pažljivo postavljen kako bi se osigurao integritet igre i fer za sve učesnike. Uzbuđeni smo što možemo da podelimo da, kako naš sajt raste i razvija se, planiramo da preispitamo i potencijalno povećamo ovaj limit dobitka, što odražava našu posvećenost pružanju još više uzbudljivih i nagrađujućih mogućnosti našim igračima.
Kao deo naše posvećenosti poboljšanju iskustava i nagrada za igrače, trenutni maksimalni limit dobitka je postavljen na 250.000 dolara po rundi igre. Ovaj limit je pažljivo postavljen kako bi se osigurao integritet igre i pravednost za sve učesnike. Uzbuđeni smo što možemo da podelimo da, kako naš sajt raste i razvija se, planiramo da preispitamo i potencijalno povećamo ovaj limit dobitka, što odražava našu posvećenost pružanju još više uzbudljivih i nagrađujućih mogućnosti našim igračima.
Akutno nedostajući u originalnoj igri Blekdžek, samoproglašena prednost od %1, nigde se ne pojavljuje ograničenje maksimalnog dobitka. Stoga postoji ozbiljna zabrinutost zašto se menja ograničenje maksimalnog dobitka, i nema objašnjenja ili upozorenja koje obaveštava korisnike kada veličina njihove opklade premaši očekivanja isplate.
Hello Michal.
I want to show you now why I am uncertain about this casino. Earlier today after reviewing, I noticed the game cap was changed from $10k to $250k.
Interesting though the win leaderboard shows even more: a partner streamer of the casino actually holds the biggest wins predating my win by only a few weeks, then seemingly it was changed to $10,000 but then now is back to $250,000
The max win cap is actually misleading. Depending which original game you see, is depending which max win cap you are limited to seemingly:
Maximum Win Cap https://gamba.com/casino/games/gamba/dice
As part of our commitment to enhancing player experiences and rewards, the current maximum win cap is set at $25,000 per round. This cap is thoughtfully placed to ensure game integrity and fairness for all participants. We're excited to share that as our site grows and evolves, we plan to review and potentially increase this win cap, reflecting our dedication to offering even more thrilling and rewarding opportunities for our players.
Maximum Win Cap https://gamba.com/casino/games/gamba/limbo
As part of our commitment to enhancing player experiences and rewards, the current maximum win cap is set at $250,000 per game round. This cap is thoughtfully placed to ensure game integrity and fairness for all participants. We're excited to share that as our site grows and evolves, we plan to review and potentially increase this win cap, reflecting our dedication to offering even more thrilling and rewarding opportunities for our players.
Acutely missing from the originals Blackjack game, a self proclaimed %1 edge, no maximum win cap appears anywhere. So there is a genuine concern here why there is a changing max win cap, and no explanation or warning message alerting users when their bet size exceeds the payout expectations.
Ja sam Mihal i preuzeo sam odgovornost za vašu žalbu. Ispitao sam vaš slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino kako bih dobio dodatni uvid u ovo pitanje i utvrdio kako vam mogu pomoći.
Želeli bismo da pozovemo Gamba kazino da učestvuje u ovoj diskusiji.
Dragi kazino Gamba,
Ljubazno molim za sve raspoložive informacije i prateću dokumentaciju koja se odnosi na igračeve okolnosti. Ovo će mi omogućiti da sprovedem nezavisan i temeljan pregled situacije i procenim da li su igračeve pretpostavke tačne ili da li je ograničenje dobitaka primenjeno na odgovarajući način u skladu sa relevantnim pravilima.
Ukoliko postoji dodatni kontekst ili razmatranja relevantna za ovaj slučaj koja možda nisu pogodna za javno objavljivanje, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste ih mogli podeliti sa mnom poverljivo putem e-pošte.
Hvala unapred.
Hello amigofivetwo,
I am Michal, and I have assumed responsibility for your complaint. I have examined your case, and I will reach out to the casino to gain further insight into this issue to determine how I can assist you.
We would like to extend an invitation to Gamba Casino to participate in this discussion.
Dear Gamba Casino,
I kindly request any available information and supporting documentation pertaining to the player’s circumstances. This will enable me to conduct an independent and thorough review of the situation and assess whether the player’s assumptions are accurate or whether the winnings cap was appropriately applied in accordance with the relevant rules.
Should there be any additional context or considerations relevant to this case that may not be suitable for public disclosure, I would appreciate it if you could also share those with me confidentially via email.
Imejl REDACTED@gmail.com ne pripada korisniku amigo52.
Zdravo Guru,
Otvorio sam ovaj zahtev za pomoć kod vas još 1. novembra, a vi ste moj slučaj odložili na dve nedelje.
Tokom ovog dvonedeljnog perioda čekanja, bilo koja treća strana koja je imala privilegiju da sazna detalje mogla je, i sumnjam da jeste, izvršiti pritisak na poravnanje. Budite uvereni, nikada nisam potpisao niti pristao na bilo šta manje od iznosa opklade koji je trebalo da bude isplaćen u vreme kada je rezultirao i iznosa koji je rezultirao.
Ovaj kazino koristi pseudonime zaposlenih i čim im se suočite sa bilo čim što se ne slaže sa njihovim stavom, oni će jednostavno prestati da odgovaraju putem podrške. Ovako izbegavaju odgovornost. Ranije ove nedelje sam se raspitivao o povraćaju gubitka nakon što sam izgubio deo od 10.000 dolara koje su mi dozvolili da podignem, a domaćin mi je vratio 1000 dolara kao bonus za lojalnost, a ne kao poravnanje.
Takođe ne pristajem da se moji privatni imejlovi dele sa bilo kojom trećom stranom van okvira istrage, pa me zaista zanima zašto sada imaju moj ranije nepoznati imejl, pored mog iCloud-a na koji sam se registrovao u kazinu... molim vas da ovo ne delite u budućnosti i ovo naravno predstavlja još jedno kršenje ugovora i sa Guruom i sa kazinom.
S poštovanjem,
a52
The email REDACTED@gmail.com does not belong to the user amigo52.
Hello Guru,
I opened this request for help with you back on November 1st, and you made my case wait for two weeks.
In this two week waiting period, any 3rd party privileged to the details could have and I suspect did, pressure for settlement. Rest assured, I have never signed or agreed to anything less than what the bet amount should have been honored at the time it resulted in and the amount it resulted.
This casino uses alias employees and the moment you confront them with anything that disagrees with their position they will just stop replying via support. This is how they dodge accountability. Earlier this week I inquired about a lossback after losing some of the $10,000 they allowed me to withdraw, and the host provided me with $1000 back as a loyalty bonus, not as a settlement.
I also do not agree to my private emails being shared with any 3rd party outside of the scope of investigations, so I am genuinely curious why they now have my previously unknown email, in addition to my icloud which I registered on the casino with... please do not share this in the future and this of course constitutes yet another breach of contract both with Guru and the casino.
Pišem vam ponovo danas nakon što me je osoba koja nije povezana sa tim pitanjem kontaktirala putem telegrama da mi kaže da je Gamba deaktivirao njegov nalog optužujući ga za „lažno predstavljanje".
Ova optužba kazina je lažna i nije zasnovana na činjenicama niti na osnovama. Štaviše, navedene optužbe uopšte nisu istražene, što znači da bilo koja osoba može dati ovu izjavu o igraču koji joj se ne sviđa na veb stranici u vezi sa bilo kojim otvorenim ili predstojećim rešavanjem spora.
Nikada nisam vršio pritisak na tebe, niti na kazino, da mi pošaljete ili prebacite novac van mog igračkog računa, čime se negira osnova za „lažno predstavljanje".
U stvari, ovaj kazino je pogrešno predstavio vama, meni i osobi kojoj je zabranjen pristup, materijalne činjenice i propuste samo da bi bacio sumnju i uništio karakter i reputaciju:
Igrač koji je zabranjen je zapravo veoma dobro poznat po tome što ima nerešene sporove sa kazinom i česta je kontakt osoba sa kojom se drugi takođe suočavaju, zbog čega sam u mogućnosti da artikulišem činjenično zasnovan i potkrepljen dokazima pravni zahtev. Ovo je suprotno kazinu koji nasumično optužuje igrače za lažno predstavljanje kada je sam pomenuti operater nepoznat i nije imenovan ni u jednom dokumentu kompanije koji identifikuje njihovo pravo poreklo ili poslovanje, niti podržava bilo kakav ugledan prošli rad koji nudi bilo kakvu vrstu kredibiliteta.
S poštovanjem,
a52
Hello Guru,
I am writing again today after a person unrelated to the matter reached out to me via telegram to tell me Gamba has disabled his account accusing him of "impersonation".
This accusation by the casino is false, and not based on fact nor merit. Furthermore, said accusations are not investigated at all meaning that any person could make this statement about a player they dislike on the website relating to any open or pending dispute resolution.
I have never once pressured you, nor the casino to send or transfer me any money outside of my player account, thus negating the basis for the "impersonation".
Factually, this casino misrepresented to you, to me, and to the person banned, material facts and omissions simply to cast doubt and destroy character and reputation:
The player banned is actually very well known to have outstanding disputes with the casino, and is a frequent point of contact for others who do also, thus why I am able to articulate a factually based and supported by evidence, legal claim at all. This is in contrast to a casino, randomly accusing players of impersonation when the said operator himself is unknown and not named on any company documents that identify their true origins or businesses, nor support any reputable past work that does offer any sort of credibility.
Ova situacija je dobila prilično neočekivani obrt. Naš forum za žalbe je namenjen da služi kao platforma za igrače da izraze svoje nedoumice ako smatraju da su nepravedno tretirani od strane kazina, i da kazino razjasni okolnosti i, ako je izvodljivo, postigne pravedno rešenje. Svakako nije namenjeno da igrači to iskoriste u pokušaju da vrše pritisak na kazino sa ciljem dobijanja finansijske nadoknade. Ukoliko se utvrdi da je to slučaj, žalba će biti odbačena, a igrač koji je u pitanju može se suočiti sa ograničenjima u pogledu mogućnosti korišćenja naših usluga u budućnosti.
Želim da se uverim da je ovo jasno shvaćeno.
Dragi kazino Gamba,
Molim vas, pošaljite mi informacije i dokaze koji potkrepljuju vašu tvrdnju michal.k@casino.guru
Dragi amigofivetwo,
Činjenica je da je vaš „prijatelj" podneo žalbu na našem forumu da bi vam navodno pomogao jer ste navodno bili prezauzeti.
Vaš „prijatelj" je izgleda bio prilično dobro upoznat sa vašim okolnostima, što, iako nije sasvim neuobičajeno — pošto svi imamo tendenciju da delimo svoja iskustva sa prijateljima — izaziva zabrinutost s obzirom na to da je prilično neuobičajeno da „prijatelj" postupa kao vi, pružajući vaše korisničke podatke „bez" vašeg pristanka na našem forumu. (NISMO i NEĆEMO otkriti nijednu vašu informaciju nikome osim dotičnom kazinu ili nadležnim organima ako to zatraže.)
Ova situacija je donekle potkopala neke od vaših stavova koje ste ranije izneli. Štaviše, teško je poverovati da bi vas osoba sa istorijom nerešenih sporova sa kazinom kontaktirala „slučajno".
Ipak, želim da razjasnim stvar, pa vas ljubazno molim da mi pošaljete ( michal.k@casino.guru ) svaku prepisku koju ste imali sa timom kazina sa svih vaših imejl adresa, kao i svaku komunikaciju sa drugim pojedincima u vezi sa ovim slučajem, ako je primenljivo. Možda možemo zajedno da sarađujemo kako bismo identifikovali osobu koja se predstavlja kao vi ili tim kazina i preduzeli korake da je sprečimo da se bavi ovim nepoštenim ponašanjem.
Takođe, da ponovim:
Kazino Guru nikada neće tražiti plaćanja ili pristup vašim nalozima radi završetka KYC-a ili bilo čega sličnog. Ako neko tvrdi da je iz Kazino Gurua i to radi, ne delite nikakve informacije.
Igrače kontaktiramo samo putem ove zvanične teme za žalbe ili putem imejl adresa @casino.guru . Uvek proverite domen pošiljaoca i potvrdite imejl adresu vašeg rešavača žalbi klikom na njihov avatar vidljiv unutar zvanične teme za žalbe.
Ako vam se nešto čini sumnjivim, kontaktirajte nas direktno.
Dear all,
This situation has taken a rather unexpected turn. Our complaint forum is intended to serve as a platform for players to address their concerns if they believe they have been treated unjustly by the casino, and for the casino to clarify the circumstances and, if feasible, reach a fair resolution. It is certainly not intended for players to exploit it in an attempt to exert pressure on the casino with the aim of receiving financial compensation. Should this be determined to be the case, the complaint will be dismissed, and the player involved may face restrictions on their ability to use our services in the future.
I want to ensure that this is clearly understood.
Dear Gamba Casino,
Please forward me information and evidence that supports your claim to michal.k@casino.guru
Dear amigofivetwo,
It is a fact that your "friend" has submitted a complaint on our forum to supposedly help you because you allegedly were too busy.
Your "friend" appeared to be quite knowledgeable about your circumstances, which, while not entirely unusual—since we all tend to share our experiences with friends—does raise concerns given that it is rather uncommon for a "friend" to act as you have, by providing your user information "without" your consent on our forum. (We have NOT and will NOT reveal any of your information to anyone except the involved casino or to the appropriate authorities if they request it.)
This situation has somewhat undermined some of the points you made earlier. Furthermore, it is difficult to believe that an individual with a history of outstanding disputes with the casino would contact you "by accident".
Nonetheless, I wish to clarify the matter, so I kindly ask you to send me (michal.k@casino.guru) any correspondence you have had with the casino team from all your email addresses, as well as any communication with other individuals regarding this case, if applicable. Perhaps we can work together to identify the individual impersonating you or the casino team and take steps to prevent them from engaging in this dishonest behaviour.
Also, to reiterate:
Casino Guru will never ask for payments or access to your accounts to complete KYC or anything similar. If someone claims to be from Casino Guru and does that, do not share any information.
We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Hvala guruu, potpuno razumem. Ponovo, prilično sam zauzet, zapravo nisam bio siguran u vezi sa drugim otvorenim slučajem do nedavno. I da, ovo je veoma nepravedna i opravdana žalba koju sam podneo protiv Gambe, sa dobrim razlogom i podneta u potpunoj dobroj veri zbog potkopavanja uslova koje je kazino u više navrata predstavio svojoj publici i pokroviteljima.
Bio sam fer, otvoren, razuman, postupao sam u skladu sa najboljom praksom, dozvoljavajući operateru da dobrovoljno, svesno i dobrovoljno reši ovo bez potrebe da uključuje druge posrednike. Međutim, kazino je umesto toga dodatno iskoristio ovu situaciju da bi naneo dodatnu štetu ugledu druge osobe (osoba) i to ima prilično negativne posledice ne samo po lične finansije, već i po slobodno vreme i profesionalne posledice.
Ponovo, želim samo fer i zabavnu igru za sve nas, ali ovo izgleda traži previše iako je to navedeno u magičnom dokumentu pod nazivom uslovi korišćenja koji se menjaju bez prethodne najave i zakopani su u dvosmislenim i dugim knjigama teksta.
Po mom iskrenom mišljenju, ovo nije težak posao za vođenje. Igrači uplaćuju novac i igraju po pravilima bez odlaganja ili izgovora za plaćanja, bukvalno svi ovi problemi odmah nestaju. Kazino, međutim, umesto toga želi da izmišlja izjave i ponižava ljude -- lično smatram da je ovo ponašanje zabrinjavajuće to što bi kazino nazvao igrača „šizo" čak i ako bi jedan od tih zahteva bio poslat u tom veoma prijateljskom i jasno komunikativnom pismu zahteva, pod pretpostavkom da se „tj. Šizo" odnosio na pokušaj osoblja za podršku da potkopa kredibilitet osobe jednostavno zato što je zahtevala da vrati ono što iznosi oko 300.000 dolara za godinu dana od strane 4 osobe povezane sa tom osobom.
Ponovo, ne mogu dovoljno da vam zahvalim, Guru, na vašoj pomoći i ogromnoj marljivosti u ovom pitanju i nadam se da će ovaj kazino pronaći snage da prestane da se ponaša tako odvratno prema svojim igračima i partnerima, bez obzira gde misle da žive. Kada jednom otvorite vrata poslovnom odnosu bilo koje vrste, ne možete očekivati da sprovedete jednu odredbu ugovora, a zatim previdite istu odredbu sa drugim igračem ili partnerom samo da biste kasnije počeli da je sprovodite i sa njima.
Svi ovi slučajevi potkrepljuju tvrdnje koje sam naveo u prilog odštete koju sam tražio u ovoj tužbi, i nadam se da će i ostali to videti i ponovo otvoriti svoje zahteve ako su ih prethodno rešili.
S poštovanjem,
a52
**izmena**
Guru, sva prepiska je podeljena sa vama sa svih imejl adresa navedenih gore u početnim objavama. Trenutno nema novih prepiski za deljenje. Sva sredstva su naravno bezbedna i nikada neće biti ugrožena, jer će zainteresovane strane Gamba pametnog ugovora sigurno biti uznemirene ako ne postoje odgovarajući mehanizmi za obračun povlačenja igrača. To znači da ne postoji rizik od bilo kakvog lažnog predstavljanja, jer će nalog, imejlovi i transakcije biti pravilno odobreni u skladu sa kazinom, dotičnim igračkim nalogom i osobljem, baš kao što je trebalo da bude urađeno na dan opklade koju sam postavio.
Konačno, želim da pozovem Gurua da ne bude ometen budućim pokušajima ovog operatera da nepotrebno odlaže, jer vidite da će takva odlaganja biti direktno usmerena na bilo šta osim na rešavanje konkretnog pitanja. Postavio sam opkladu, isplata nije bila ograničena i nije bila jasno oglašena u prozoru igre kako je propisano licencom, a igrači imaju razumno očekivanje da će imati koristi od punog iznosa isplate kako je oglašeno indikatorom igre, pa čak i rezultatom opklade, i svaka osoba bi očekivala da bude isplaćena u punom iznosu. Sada kada je bilo mnogo odlaganja, više izgovora, više štete po druge, naravno da ću sada tražiti povećanje odštete preko početnih 7 puta za sva dalja odlaganja ili izgovore koji ne rešavaju ove iznete tvrdnje.
Thank you guru, I understand totally. Again, I am quite busy in fact I was not sure about the other open case until recently. And yes, this is a very unfair and justified complaint I have lodged against Gamba, for good cause and made in complete good faith due to the undermining of terms the casino has on multiple occasions presented to its audience and patrons.
I have been fair, up front, reasonable, acted in best practice allowing the operator to willingly and knowingly and voluntarily settle this without having to involve other intermediaries. However, the casino instead has leveraged this situation further to cause additional damage to other person(s) character and it has quite a ripple effect on not only personal finances, but leisure and professional repercussions.
Again, I wish nothing but fair and fun game play for all of us, but this is seemingly asking for too much even though it is spelled out in the magical document called the terms of service which change without notice and buried in ambiguous and lengthy tomes of text.
This is not a difficult business to run in my honest opinion. Players deposit money and play according to the rules without delay or excuse for payments, literally all of these problems vanish immediately. The casino though, instead wishes to fabricate statements and put people down -- personally I find this behavior concerning that a casino would call a player "shizzo" if even 1 of those demands sent in that very friendly and clearly communicative demand letter, assuming the "aka Schizzo" was referencing a shot by the support staff trying to undermine a persons credibility for simply demanding that they return what amounts to be around $300,000 in 1 year by 4 people connected to the person.
Again, I cannot thank you enough Guru for your help and tremendous diligence in this matter, and hope that this casino will find the strength to stop acting so disgustingly towards it's players and partners regardless of where they think they live. Once you open a door into a business relationship of any kind you cannot expect to enforce one term of a contract but then overlooking the same term with another player or partner only to then later on begin enforcing it with them too.
All of these instances further the claims I referenced in support of the damages I have asked for in this complaint, and I hope that the others will also see this and reopen their claims if they have previously settled any.
Sincerely,
a52
**edit**
Guru, all correspondences have been shared with you from all email addresses noted above in the initial posts. There are no new correspondences to share at this time. All funds of course are safe and will never be jeopardized since the stakeholders of the Gamba smart contract will surely be upset if there are no proper mechanisms in place to account for a player withdraw. Meaning - there is no risk to any impersonation since the account, emails, and transactions will all be properly authorized in accordance with the casino, player account in question, and staff just as it should have been done on the day of the bet that I placed.
Finally, I want to urge Guru to not be distracted by this operators future attempts at delaying further unnecessarily as you can see such delays are going to be squarely aimed at anything but addressing the specific matter at all. I placed a bet, the payout was not capped and not advertised clearly in the game window as required by license, and players have a reasonable expectation to benefit the full payout amount as advertised by the game indicator and even the bet result prove and any person would expect to be honored in the full amount. Now that there have been many delays, more excuses, more harm to others, I am of course going to now ask for an increase beyond the initial 7x damages for any further delays or excuses that do not address these claims made.
Tek sada se javljam jer verujem da će vaša vremenska zona verovatno preispitati situaciju i preduzeti neku vrstu korektivnih mera po ovom pitanju. Želim da znate da će mnogi ljudi putovati u narednim nedeljama zbog raznih verskih i bankarskih praznika koji se brzo približavaju, a takođe vam svima želim dobro zdravlje i poslovni uspeh u novoj godini.
Ljubazno molim da se, ukoliko odgovor ne bude u roku, dozvoli produženje, jer u ovo doba godine može biti posebno teško rukovati složenim rokovima pre ugovornih obaveza i sastanaka zainteresovanih strana sa moje strane. Ipak, želim da apelujem na uvođenje neke vrste sankcija protiv ovog kazina zbog onoga što je sada kašnjenje od preko 30 dana u ovom slučaju, što je sasvim namerno, dodaću.
Cenim marljivost koju je vaš tim ponovo uložio u osiguravanje bezbednosti sredstava igrača i učešća u kazinu, rešavajući činjenice i pravne zahteve zasnovane na dokazima i ničemu više.
S poštovanjem,
a52
Hello Team Guru,
I am only checking in now as I believe your time zone is likely going to review and take corrective action of some kind in this matter. I want you to know many people will be traveling in the coming weeks due to the various religious and banking holidays fast approaching, and also wish you all good health and business in the new year.
I kindly ask that should a reply not meet a deadline to allow an extension since this time of year can be particularly difficult to be handling complex deadlines ahead of contractual obligations and stakeholder meetings on my end. I do want to urge though, imposing some sort of sanctions against this casino for what is now a delay of more than 30 days in this case which is quite intentional I also will add.
I appreciate the diligence again taken by your team to insure the security of player funds and casino participation in addressing the facts and legal claims based on the evidence and nothing more.
Ponovo pišem ček za najnovije. Ovaj operater može lako da odgovori klijentima u roku od 60 sekundi putem ćaskanja uživo. Potpuno sam zbunjen zašto ovaj operater ne može brzo da reši ovu situaciju. Odbijanje da se reši problem ili izgovaranje oko svega što je moguće, potpuno hvatanje za slamku i traženje bilo čega što bi nanelo još veću i veću štetu. Umesto da se greška ispravi na samom početku, izvini se i ispravi nedostaci koji su doveli do ovih okolnosti.
Guru, molim te... Prošlo je više od mesec dana otkako sam postavio ovu opkladu, i oslanjao sam se na indikator isplate prikazan na interfejsu da bih razumno pretpostavio da će 30 dolara biti pomnoženo sa 3168, inače bih uložio ne više od 2,30 dolara.
Recite ovom čoveku da isplati preostali novac zajedno sa kamatom i sankcijama za njegovu groznu prevaru.
-a52
Casino Guru,
Again I am writing the check on the latest. This operator can easily respond to clients within 60 seconds via live chat. I am lost completely why it is this operator cannot quickly remedy this situation. Refusal to arbitrate or making excuses around everything possibly within reach totally grasping at straws and searching for anything at all to inflict even more and more damage. Rather than fixing the mistake in the first place, apologizing, and correcting the shortfalls leading to the circumstances to begin with.
Guru, please.... It has been over a month since I placed this bet, and I relied on the payout indicator shown on the interface to reasonably assume that the $30 would be multiplied by 3168 else, I would have been betting no more than $2.30.
Tell this man to issue the remaining along with interest and sanctions for his egregious pattern of fraud.
Guru, da li imaš 300.000 dolara koje mogu da ukradem od tebe više od godinu dana, da se rešim više od 120 igrača iz tvojih kampanja, ili možda solidnu reputaciju profesionalnog istraživača bezbednosti koju bih mogao da uništim neosnovanim optužbama? Možda bi trebalo samo da otvorim kazino i počnem da prevarim i koristim gore navedene izgovore da to opravdam? Ako sve ostalo ne uspe, možemo jednostavno da objavimo tvoje privatne podatke trećim licima u poslednjem pokušaju da izbegnemo činjenicu da imamo ugovor o poverljivosti? Da li vidiš problem koji sada imam ovde? Nijedna od ovih tvrdnji kazina nije istinita, niti ima ikakve veze sa tužbom koju sam podneo.
Guru do you have $300,000 I can steal from you for more than a year, offload more than 120 players from your campaigns, or maybe a solid reputation as a professional security researcher for me to ruin with baseless accusations. Perhaps I should just open a casino and start scamming and using excuses above to justify it? If all else fails, we can just release private information about you to third parties in a last ditch effort to avoid the fact we have an NDA? Do you see the problem I have here now? None of these claims made by casino are true, nor do they have anything at all to do with the case I have lodged.
Razumem vašu želju za blagovremenim ažuriranjima, ali ova situacija se ispostavila kao mnogo složenija i komuniciram sa timom kazina takođe u pozadini, jer postoje specifični detalji koji se ne mogu javno deliti. Radujem se što ću vam uskoro pružiti sveobuhvatnija ažuriranja.
Dear amigofivetwo,
I understand your desire for timely updates, but this situation turned out to be much more intricate, and I'm communicating with the casino team also in the background, as there are specific details that cannot be shared publicly. I look forward to giving you a more comprehensive update shortly.
U redu, sačekaću. Ovo ludilo mora da prestane. Lažno optuživanje nekoga da je šizofreničan, odmazda zbog zahtevanja onoga što je sve vreme obećano. Ove stvari imaju posledice po ljude u stvarnom svetu. Ovo je neoprostivo. Mogu li da dignem ruke, ko ovde NE želi fer i bezbedno okruženje za igranje?
Ništa u celoj ovoj situaciji nije zabavno ili fer i Gamba ne treba da krivi ničiju šizofreniju kada igrači ne žele da se vrate. Ovaj kazino izbegava suštinu slučaja nepovezanim informacijama, a takođe direktno laže i izostavlja određene činjenice kako bi vas zavarao i skrenuo pažnju sa nestalih 80 hiljada dolara u mom životu.
Čak sam tražio i povraćaj gubitaka, odbili su mi zahtev uz pretpostavku da sam „u profitu većem od 90 hiljada dolara", ali to nije tačno. Dakle, to ima još veće implikacije u vezi sa vremenom ili ne, čak i ako su iskreni prema Softsvisu u vezi sa računovodstvenim pitanjima.
OK, I will wait. This madness needs to stop. Falsely accusing somebody about being schizophrenic, retaliating against them for demanding what was promised all along. These things have real world consequences to people. This is inexcusable. Can I have a show of hands, who here DOESNT want a fair and safe gaming environment to play on?
Nothing about this entire situation is fun or fair and Gamba needs not to blame anybody's schizophrenia when players don't want to return. This casino is avoiding the substance of the case with unrelated information, and also directly lying and omission of specific facts to mislead you and take attention away from the missing $80K in my life.
I even ask for lossback, they denied my request on the premise that I am "In profit more than $90K" but that is not accurate. So it has even more implications about weather or not they are even being honest with Softswiss about accounting matters.
Kao deo naše posvećenosti poboljšanju iskustava i nagrada za igrače, trenutni maksimalni limit dobitka je postavljen na 25.000 dolara po rundi igre. Ovaj limit je pažljivo postavljen kako bi se osigurao integritet igre i fer za sve učesnike. Uzbuđeni smo što možemo da podelimo da, kako naš sajt raste i razvija se, planiramo da preispitamo i potencijalno povećamo ovaj limit dobitka, što odražava našu posvećenost pružanju još uzbudljivijih i nagrađujućih mogućnosti našim igračima.
Kockice:
Maksimalni limit dobitka
Kao deo naše posvećenosti poboljšanju iskustava i nagrada za igrače, trenutni maksimalni limit dobitka je postavljen na 25.000 dolara po rundi. Ovaj limit je pažljivo postavljen kako bi se osigurao integritet igre i fer za sve učesnike. Uzbuđeni smo što možemo da podelimo da, kako naš sajt raste i razvija se, planiramo da preispitamo i potencijalno povećamo ovaj limit dobitka, što odražava našu posvećenost pružanju još više uzbudljivih i nagrađujućih mogućnosti našim igračima.
Da li mi kažeš da su se iznosi u dolarima ponovo promenili pored istorije imena igrača koji su ili plaćeni ili su prevareni? Šta je od toga?
Limbo:
Maximum Win Cap
As part of our commitment to enhancing player experiences and rewards, the current maximum win cap is set at $25,000 per game round. This cap is thoughtfully placed to ensure game integrity and fairness for all participants. We're excited to share that as our site grows and evolves, we plan to review and potentially increase this win cap, reflecting our dedication to offering even more thrilling and rewarding opportunities for our players.
Dice:
Maximum Win Cap
As part of our commitment to enhancing player experiences and rewards, the current maximum win cap is set at $25,000 per round. This cap is thoughtfully placed to ensure game integrity and fairness for all participants. We're excited to share that as our site grows and evolves, we plan to review and potentially increase this win cap, reflecting our dedication to offering even more thrilling and rewarding opportunities for our players.
Are you telling me the dollar amounts have changed yet again in addition to the history of names of players who either were paid or were scammed? which is it?
Guru, moram sada da razgovaram sa tobom nasamo jer izgleda da kazino pravi lažne zapise kako bi ti ih predstavio u vezi sa ovim slučajem.
Sve što treba da uradi je da kaže da ne želi da plati, umesto da omalovažava moju i reputaciju mojih prijatelja. Ovo je prokleto sranje.
Guru, I need to have discussions with you in private now because what seems to be happening is the casino is engineering false records to represent to you about this case.
All he has to do is say he doesnt want to pay, rather than disparaging me and my friends reputations. This is fucking bullshit.
Iako imate puno pravo na svoje mišljenje, i dalje ste dužni da ga izrazite na poštovan način. Moram vas upozoriti da upotreba uvredljivog ili zastrašujućeg jezika neće biti tolerisana. Svaki dalji pokušaj verbalnog napada ili zastrašivanja profesionalaca u Casino.Guru ili bilo kog člana osoblja kazina može rezultirati trajnim blokiranjem vašeg profila na našoj veb stranici. Naš primarni cilj je da pomognemo igračima i imamo politiku nulte tolerancije za takvo ponašanje.
Želim da vas uverim da sam u aktivnoj komunikaciji sa timom kazina i, kao što sam ranije pomenuo, ovaj slučaj je postao znatno složeniji nego što se u početku činilo. Jedno važno pitanje koje je izašlo na videlo jeste da žalbu možda nije podneo pogođeni igrač. Ovo je izazvalo opravdanu zabrinutost da bi žalba mogla biti iskorišćena kao način da se izvrši pritisak na kazino da isplati sredstva nekome ko zapravo nema „zakonsko" pravo da ih primi.
Takođe želim blago da istaknem da veoma česte i dugačke poruke koje šaljete – od kojih mnoge pokreću zabrinutost koja nije povezana sa suštinskim problemom – počinju da usporavaju proces razjašnjenja umesto da ga podržavaju. Što se više nepovezanih ili ponovljenih objava objavi, istraga može duže trajati.
Pored toga, iako se prvobitno pitanje odnosilo na spor oko „maksimalnog limita isplate", obavešten sam, pored drugih aspekata, da vaš nalog još uvek nije uspešno prošao KYC verifikaciju. Možete li, molim vas, da ovo objasnite? Ako ste završili KYC verifikaciju u Gamba Casino-u, molim vas da dostavite bilo kakvu potvrdu.
Na kraju, moram da razjasnim još jednu stvar:
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti vaš odnos sa osobom po imenu „Supcij"?
Hvala vam na saradnji — pružanje jasnih i direktnih odgovora na ova pitanja će nam, nadamo se, pomoći da pokrenemo slučaj.
Takođe vas ljubazno podsećam da nastavite diskusiju na učtiv način.
Dear amigofivetwo,
While you are fully entitled to your own opinion, you still are required to express it in a respectful manner. I must caution you that the use of offensive or intimidating language will not be tolerated. Any further attempts to verbally attack or intimidate the professionals at Casino.Guru or any staff member of the casino may result in the permanent blocking of your profile on our website. Our primary goal is to assist players, and we have a zero-tolerance policy for such behaviour.
I want to assure you that I am in active communication with the casino team, and as I mentioned earlier, this case has become significantly more complex than it initially appeared. One important issue that has come to light is that the complaint might not have been submitted by the affected player. This has raised legitimate concerns that the complaint may be used as a way to pressure the casino into releasing funds to someone who is not really "legally" entitled to receive them.
I also want to gently point out that the very frequent and lengthy messages you are sending—many of which raise concerns unrelated to the core issue—are beginning to slow down the clarification process rather than support it. The more unrelated or repeated posts submitted, the longer the investigation may take.
Additionally, while the original matter centered around the dispute over the "maximum payout limit," I have been informed, along with other aspects, that your account has not yet successfully passed KYC verification. Could you please address this? If you have completed KYC at Gamba Casino, please provide any form of confirmation.
Lastly, I need to clarify one more point:
Can you please explain your relationship to the individual named "Suptsij"?
Thank you for your cooperation—providing clear and straightforward answers to these points will hopefully help us move the case forward.
I also kindly remind you to continue to discussion in a respectful manner.
Obavestili ste me da moram ostati poštovan, i ja to razumem i prihvatam. Izvinjavam se zbog svakog prethodnog tona koji je možda delovao neprikladno. Međutim, ljubazno vas molim da razumete i moj stav. Moj nalog je ignorisan, sakriven i na kraju blokiran, ostavljajući mi nikakvu mogućnost da preduzmem dalje mere. Uprkos zabrani, i dalje mogu da uplaćujem depozite, dajem napojnice ili učestvujem u kišnim događajima, što pokreće opravdanu zabrinutost u vezi sa doslednošću ograničenja koja su postavljena na moj nalog.
Uspešno sam završio ceo KYC proces, koji je zahtevao vaš tim za podršku uživo. Moj identitet je verifikovan i posedujete moj lični dokument izdat od strane vlade iz prethodnog zahteva za povlačenje sredstava. Trenutno nisam u mogućnosti da pružim dodatne dokaze jer mi je pristup podršci uživo opozvan, što me sprečava da čak i otvorim interfejs za podršku.
Više puta sam pojasnio da nemam nikakve veze sa „supitsj". Sve aktivnosti na Gambi i na Kick.com mogu se pregledati i nećete pronaći nikakvu vezu između mene i ove osobe. Jedina interakcija se dogodila zato što sam pronašao javni veb sajt na kojem je neko opisao da je imao slične probleme sa Gambom i da je njegov identitet takođe korišćen za izgovore. Kontaktirao sam tu osobu - nesvesno, to je bio „supitsj". Pre toga, nisam imao nikakva saznanja o njemu. Ovo sam jasno i više puta saopštio.
Pokušao sam da stvar rešim mirnim putem i čak sam ponudio isplatu od 50.000, što bi i dalje ostavilo preostali zadržani iznos — konfiskovan od 31. oktobra — u korist Gambe. Uložio sam svoja sredstva u Gambu i na kraju sam bio oštećen zbog radnji van moje kontrole.
Moja frustracija proizilazi iz činjenice da se svaki mogući argument koristi da se opravda zatvaranje slučaja na moju štetu. Moja statistika nije ispravljena nakon što su mi stanje i dobici konfiskovani. Mogu da dostavim svu dokumentaciju potrebnu za potvrdu mog identiteta, uključujući izvode iz banke, kao i evidenciju o depozitima sa Bybit-a i Binance-a. Ove evidencije potvrđuju da sam legitimni vlasnik računa i jedini pojedinac odgovoran za sve aktivnosti na nalogu. Nije došlo do lažnog predstavljanja.
Takođe sam izrazio spremnost da potpišem pisani ugovor odmah nakon što primim svoj zahtev za povlačenje, ali je to odbijeno uz ponovljenu tvrdnju da sam „u kontaktu sa supitsj" i da stoga isplata neće biti izvršena. Ovo obrazloženje nije potkrepljeno nikakvim dokazima i ne odražava pravedan ili transparentan tretman.
Pored toga, bilo mi je dozvoljeno da se kladim sa ciljanim multiplikatorima koji su kasnije označeni kao nevažeći, iako nije prikazana nikakva poruka o grešci ili ograničenje u trenutku postavljanja ovih opklada. Prema ovoj logici, čak i da sam izgubio celokupno stanje na istim tim opkladama, sredstva bi i dalje bila zadržana — jednostavno zato što je ishod bio u korist platforme. Ova nedoslednost pokreće ozbiljnu zabrinutost u vezi sa pravičnošću i usklađenošću.
Kao što je rečeno, mogu da dostavim sva potrebna dokumenta iz moje banke i kripto platformi, uključujući evidenciju o depozitima izvršenim putem bankovnog transfera. S obzirom na ovaj nivo proverljivih informacija, ne razumem kako se razumno može tvrditi da nisam legitimni vlasnik računa.
Pre nego što sam osvojio veći iznos, već sam nagomilao gubitke od približno 22.000 do 23.000 evra. Isplatio mi je delimičan iznos od oko 20.000 dolara, što je u suštini pokrilo samo ono što sam prethodno izgubio na Gambi. Nakon pobede, pretrpeo sam dodatni gubitak od približno 26.000 dolara. Pokušao sam da rešim stvar ponudom nagodbe od 50.000 dolara i izjavio sam da ću potpisati ugovor odmah nakon prijema uplate i završetka isplate. Međutim, on nastavlja da ignoriše ovu ponudu i više puta koristi isti izgovor koji uključuje „supitsj".
U jednom trenutku, izdao je „bonus za lojalnost" od 6.500 dolara, što je bio deo tog ranijeg delimičnog povrata koji sam pomenuo. Gamba sada pokušava da tvrdi da sam prihvatio ovu uplatu kao konačno poravnanje, iako je na snimku ekrana jasno označeno kao „bonus za lojalnost". Ovo pokazuje da koristi svaki mogući izgovor da opravda zadržavanje mog dobitka.
Čak su promenili iznos moje opklade na 536.000 evra, iako je prethodno bila preko 2 miliona evra. Opklada od samo 536.000 evra nije moguća ni za VIP nivo Dijamant 1. Možete sami da proverite ovo tako što ćete proveriti druge članove Dijamant 1, ili mogu da vam dostavim snimke ekrana kao dokaz.
Molim vas, obratite pažnju na ovo pitanje i naložite Gambi da ozbiljno shvati stvar. Tražim samo novac koji sam legalno osvojio. Moja konačna ponuda ostaje nagodba od 50.000 dolara.
Ova situacija očigledno nema pravičnost i transparentnost. Višestruke promene maksimalnog ograničenja po rundi su takođe nevažeće — mora da prikazuje grešku tokom klađenja, što ukazuje da opklada prelazi dozvoljeni maksimum. Imam snimke ekrana koji pokazuju da sam legalno pobedio i da takva greška nije prikazana.
You have informed me that I must remain respectful, and I understand and accept that. I apologize for any previous tone that may have appeared inappropriate. However, I kindly ask that you also understand my position. My account has been ignored, hidden, and ultimately blocked, leaving me with no possibility to take further action. Despite the ban, I am still able to deposit, tip, or participate in rain events, which raises legitimate concerns regarding the consistency of the restrictions placed on my account.
I have successfully completed the full KYC process, which was requested by your live support team. My identity has been verified, and you are in possession of my government-issued ID from a previous withdrawal request. Currently, I am unable to provide any additional evidence because my access to live support has been revoked, preventing me from even opening the support interface.
I have repeatedly clarified that I have no connection whatsoever to "supitsj." All activity on Gamba and on Kick.com can be reviewed, and you will find no Connection between me and this individual. The only interaction occurred because I found a public website on which someone described experiencing similar issues with Gamba and that his idendity was used to make excuses too . I contacted that person — unknowingly, it was "supitsj." Prior to this, I had no knowledge of him at all. I communicated this clearly and repeatedly.
I attempted to resolve the matter amicably and even offered a payment of 50,000, which would still leave the remaining withheld amount — confiscated since October 31st — in Gambas favor. I invested my own funds on Gamba and was ultimately disadvantaged through actions outside my control.
My frustration arises from the fact that every possible argument is being used to justify closing the case to my disadvantage. My statistics were not corrected after my balance and winnings were confiscated. I can provide any documentation required to verify my identity, including bank statements as well as deposit records from Bybit and Binance. These records confirm that I am the legitimate account holder and the sole individual responsible for all account activity. No impersonation has taken place.
I also expressed my willingness to sign a written agreement immediately after receiving my withdrawal, yet this was dismissed with the repeated claim that I am "in contact with supitsj" and therefore payment would not be made. This reasoning is not supported by any evidence and does not reflect fair or transparent treatment.
Additionally, I was allowed to place bets with target multipliers that were later labeled invalid, even though no error message or restriction was shown at the time of placing these bets. Under this logic, if I had lost my entire balance on these same bets, the funds would still have been kept — simply because the outcome favored the platform. This inconsistency raises serious concerns regarding fairness and compliance.
As stated, I am able to provide all necessary documents from my bank and crypto platforms, including records of deposits completed via bank transfer. Given this level of verifiable information, I do not understand how it can reasonably be claimed that I am not the legitimate account holder.
Before I won the larger amount, I had already accumulated losses of approximately €22,000 to €23,000. He paid me a partial amount totaling around $20,000, which essentially only covered what I had previously lost on Gamba. After my win, I incurred an additional loss of approximately $26,000. I attempted to resolve the matter by offering a $50,000 settlement and stated that I would sign an agreement immediately after receiving the payment and completing the withdrawal. However, he continues to ignore this offer and repeatedly uses the same excuse involving "supitsj."
At one point, he issued a "loyalty bonus" of $6,500, which was part of that earlier partial return I mentioned. Gamba is now attempting to claim that I accepted this payment as a final settlement, even though the screenshot clearly labels it as "Loyalty Bonus." This demonstrates that he is using every possible excuse to justify withholding my winnings.
They even changed my wager amount to €536,000, although it was previously over €2 million. A wager as low as €536,000 is not even possible for a Diamond 1 VIP level. You can verify this yourself by checking other Diamond 1 members, or I can provide screenshots as evidence.
Please address this issue and instruct Gamba to handle the matter seriously. I am only asking for the money that I won legally. My final offer remains the $50,000 settlement.
this situation clearly lacks fairness and transparency. The multiple changes to the maximum cap per round are also invalid — it must display an error during betting, indicating that the wager exceeds the maximum allowed. I have screenshots showing that I won lawfully and that no such error was displayed.
Molim vas, pogledajte ovo. Rečeno mi je da se moja opklada računa samo mesečno jer sam navodno u profitu. Međutim, ovu „profit" u mojoj statistici nikada nisam video jer je Gamba zadržala. A sada, pre samo nekoliko minuta, nešto sasvim drugačije je navedeno u Gamba ćaskanju. Siguran sam da su mi ovo poslali uživo na podršku 1. novembra, dan nakon moje pobede, kako bi imali dokaze u svoju korist, da pokažu da sam u profitu i dali su mi nisku mesečnu zaradu kakvu nikada nisam imao, čak i da sam imao manju opkladu, dobijao sam veći mesečni bonus nego u toj situaciji na snimku ekrana.
Please take a look at this. I was told that my wager is only counted monthly because I am supposedly in profit. However, this "profit" in my statistic —I have never seen because Gamba withheld it. And now, just a few minutes ago, something completely different was stated in the Gamba chat. I‘m sure they send me this in live support on 1. november 1 day after my win to habe evidence for their favor to show that i‘m in profit and gave me low monthly like i never had even if i had less Wager i got more Monthly bonus then in that Situation on screenshot.
Pronašao/la sam snimak ekrana iz svojih evidencija kojim potvrđujem da sam uspešno završio/la proces verifikacije „Poznaj svog klijenta" (KYC) na Swapped.com, platformi za plaćanja putem bankovnog transfera kompaniji Gamba. Ova verifikacija me formalno ovlašćuje da obavljam bankovne transfere preko platforme. To je bilo 1. septembra 2025. godine, mesec dana pre nego što sam osvojio/la taj ogromni iznos. Imaju moj lični dokument, adresu i selfi.
I have retrieved a screenshot from my records confirming that I successfully completed the Know Your Customer (KYC) verification process on Swapped.com, a platform for payments per Bank transfer to Gamba. This verification formally authorizes me to conduct bank transfers through the platform. It was on 1st september 2025 one month before i won that huge amount. They have my ID my adress and a selfie.
Dobio sam zabranu jer sam govorio istinu, a samo sam objasnio svoj slučaj. Drugi nisu dobili ništa za ovakve reči, a nije prvi put da čitam takve stvari poput toga da vara ili... prevarant, Dene, i tako dalje. On samo traži nove izgovore da bi mi dodatno uskratio pobedu.
I got a ban for telling the true with only explaining my case . others got nothing for these kind of words and it‘s not the first time i read such things like that he is scamming or f…. scammer dan and whatever. He only search new excuses to further withhold my winning.
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti vaš odnos sa osobom po imenu „Supcij"?
To nikoga ne tiče, jer nigde u Uslovima i odredbama ne piše da ta osoba ne sme biti ničije poznato lice. Mi smo dve različite osobe i on nema nikakvog uticaja na moju opkladu ili na to da se pogrešan iznos isplate prikaže na interfejsu. Stoga je izuzetno neprikladno da vi ili bilo ko drugi pita, jer to nema nikakve veze sa ishodom ovog slučaja.
Can you please explain your relationship to the individual named "Suptsij"?
That is none of anyone's concern since nowhere in Terms and Condition does it say this person cannot be known acquaintances of anyone's. We are two different people and he has no influence on my bet or the wrong payout amount being shown on the interface. Therefore, it is extremely inappropriate for you or anybody to ask since it has nothing at all to do with the outcome of this case.
Zamolio sam ga da mi otključa novčanik kako bih mogao da podignem svoj mesečni bonus koji sam dobio jer sam izgubio SVOJ NOVAC.. on ne prihvata uz izgovor, što čak nije ni istina. Uvek samo izgovori za sve. Čak i da ga tužim ili tako nešto. Uslovi korišćenja ne govore ništa o tome da može da mi uskrati mesečni bonus zbog takvih objašnjenja.
I asked him to unlock my wallet so i can withdraw my Monthly bonus which i got because i lost MY OWN MONEY.. he doesn‘t accept with excuse which even is not true. Everytime only excuses for everything. Even if i would sue him or something . ToS doesn‘t say anything about that he can withheld my Monthly because of such explains.
Pogledajte molim vas šta je uradio u roku od 1 sata, to je od danas, oboje. Nisam ranije slao ovde i ponovo sam pogledao sajt za verifikaciju pre 1 sat, pokazalo mi je pod Pregled, a sada je obrisano. Kako je ovo moguće? Kako vam sve to nije dovoljno, Casinoguru tim?..
Molim vas, uradite nešto povodom tog operatera.
Želim samo svoj novac + mesečno i nedeljno
watch pls what he did within 1 hour it‘s from today both . i didnt send before here and took a look again into verify site 1hour ago it showed me under Review and now it‘s deleted. How is this possible. How can‘t that all be enough for you Casinoguru Team?..
Guru, zašto stalno sprečavaš da istina bude javno dostupna drugima da vide šta mi ovaj kazino radi? Ovo nije transparentnost niti poverenje. Ovo je očigledno nepoštovanje i pristrasnost koja dozvoljava kazinu da istovremeno raspravlja o drugoj osobi kao mentalno bolesnoj samo zato što brani mene i druge poput mene.
Guru, why do you keep preventing the truth from being publicly available to others to see what this casino is doing to me? This isnt transparency or trust. This is blatant disregard and bias allowing the casino to at the same time discuss another person as mentally ill simply for defending me and others like me.
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti kako, po vašem mišljenju, „sprečavamo da istina bude objavljena"? Zaista bih voleo da razumem na šta mislite.
Pored toga, možete li potvrditi svoju zemlju prebivališta i državljanstvo?
Takođe bih želeo da proverim da li je kazino od vas tražio da završite proces verifikacije i, ako jeste, da li ste dostavili potrebna dokumenta.
Dear amigofivetwo,
Could you please explain how, in your view, we are "preventing the truth" from being made public? I would genuinely like to understand what you are referring to.
Additionally, could you confirm your country of residence and nationality?
I would also like to verify whether the casino requested you to complete the verification process, and if so, whether you have provided the required documents.
Ovo su korisničke recenzije, a ne naše „reklame BEZ KYC-a". Mi ne reklamiramo Gamba kao „BEZ KYC-a". Molimo vas da pojasnite gde MI ovo reklamiramo?
Ovaj slučaj nema nikakve veze sa KYC-om. Ovaj slučaj se zasniva na retroaktivnim ograničenjima maksimalnih dobitaka.
Tačno je da je glavno pitanje ove žalbe bilo navodno retroaktivno ograničenje maksimalnog dobitka; KYC je postao deo šireg pitanja. Izražene su opravdane zabrinutosti u vezi sa stvarnim vlasnikom ili operaterom računa povezanog sa ovom žalbom; stoga će KYC biti neophodan da bi se nastavio sa ovim slučajem.
Ili je Guru saučesnik u pranju novca i selektivnom sprovođenju zakona + apsolutno nikakva transparentnost - ili kako je ova osoba mogla imati ugovor o poverljivosti i povući 140.000 dolara i partnerstvo baš iz Oklanda?! Ludo, zar ne?
Možda je ovo PRAVI razlog zašto Guru odbija da prihvati slučajeve koji uključuju partnere iako slučaj nema ništa o njima? Dok istovremeno dozvoljava da se oglasi „BEZ KYC" šire po ovoj stranici.
Ovo je isključivo vaša spekulacija i nema nikakvu osnovu. Imajte na umu da ste nas kontaktirali za pomoć i da mi iskreno pokušavamo da vam pomognemo. Međutim, vaše nedavno ponašanje se razlikuje od ponašanja tipičnih povremenih ili rekreativnih igrača koji traže našu podršku kada možda nenamerno prekrše pravilo ili se osećaju nepravedno tretirano od strane kazina. Sa svakim dodatnim odgovorom, postaje sve očiglednije - i meni i, verujem, svakom nepristrasnom posmatraču - da osoba koja stoji iza ovih poruka zapravo može biti korisnik poznat kao „Suptsij".
Moram vas s poštovanjem zamoliti da se uzdržite od iznošenja neosnovanih optužbi protiv nas. Kao što je već pomenuto, uvredljiv ili zastrašujući jezik neće biti tolerisan.
Imajte na umu da svaki dalji pokušaj verbalnog napada ili zastrašivanja profesionalaca u Casino.Guru-u ili bilo kog člana osoblja kazina može rezultirati trajnim blokiranjem vašeg profila na našoj veb stranici. Naš primarni cilj je da pomognemo igračima i imamo politiku nulte tolerancije za takvo ponašanje. Molimo vas da ovo smatrate poslednjim upozorenjem.
Što se tiče dodatnih odgovora koje ste poslali: iako možda verujete da oni potkrepljuju vaše tvrdnje, oni zapravo nisu relevantni za predmetno pitanje. U stvari, oni dodatno pojačavaju zabrinutost da bi ovu žalbu mogao da obradi „Supcij" ili da možda dozvoljavate ovoj osobi da utiče na vaše postupke.
Da bismo potvrdili da ste vi — „Amigo FiveTwo" ili „Amigo52" — zaista legitimni vlasnik naloga, ljubazno vas molimo da nam pošaljete kratak video za verifikaciju (minimum 30 sekundi). U ovom videu, molimo vas:
Jasno pokaži svoje lice,
Nastavljamo da beležimo kako se prijavljujete na svoj Gamba nalog i prikazujemo „glavnu stranicu" vašeg Gamba naloga i korisničke podatke na tom nalogu.
Držite rukopisno pisanu poruku pored lica sa tekstom koji ću vam poslati na adresu e-pošte povezanu sa vašim Gamba nalogom.
Molimo vas da se uverite da su i vaše lice, proces prijavljivanja i rukopisna poruka potpuno i jasno vidljivi.
Kada video bude spreman, možete ga poslati direktno na moju imejl adresu michal.k@casino.guru ili, ako je preveliko za slanje putem e-pošte, otpremite ga na platformu kao što je Google Drive ili OneDrive i podelite link za preuzimanje sa mnom kako bih ga mogao preuzeti i pregledati.
Imajte u vidu da je završetak ovog koraka neophodan da bismo mogli da nastavimo istragu.
Dear amigofivetwo,
These are user reviews, not our "advertisements of NO KYC". We don't advertise Gamba as "NO KYC". Please elaborate on where WE advertise this?
This case has nothing at all to do with KYC. This case hinges on retroactive max win caps.
It's true that the main issue of this complaint was the allegedly retroactive max win cap; the KYC has become a part of the broader issue. Valid concerns were raised about the actual holder or operator of the account linked to this complaint; therefore, a KYC will be necessary to proceed with this case.
Either Guru is complicit in Money Laundering and Selective enforcement + absolutely zero transparency - or else how could this person have an NDA and withdrawn $140,000 and a partnership from OAKLAND of all places?! Crazy right?
Perhaps this is the TRUE reason Guru refuses to accept cases involving partners even though the case has nothing to mention about them? While also allowing "NO KYC" advertisements to proliferate across this site.
This is purely your speculation and has no basis. Please keep in mind that you contacted us for assistance, and we are genuinely trying to help. Your recent behaviour, however, differs from that of typical casual or recreational players who seek our support when they maybe unintentionally breached a rule or feel treated unfairly by the casino. With each additional response, it becomes increasingly apparent—both to me and, I believe, to any impartial observer—that the individual behind these messages may in fact be the user known as "Suptsij."
I must ask you respectfully to refrain from making unfounded accusations against us. As mentioned before, offensive or intimidating language will not be tolerated.
Please be aware that any further attempts to verbally attack or intimidate the professionals at Casino.Guru or any staff member of the casino may result in the permanent blocking of your profile on our website. Our primary goal is to assist players, and we have a zero-tolerance policy for such behaviour. Please consider this as the final warning.
Regarding the additional responses you have submitted: although you may believe they support your case, they are actually not really relevant to the issue at hand. In fact, they further reinforce the concern that this complaint may be handled by "Suptsij," or that you may be allowing this individual to influence your actions.
To confirm that you — "Amigo FiveTwo" or "Amigo52" — are indeed the legitimate account holder, we kindly request a short verification video (minimum of 30 seconds). In this video, please:
Clearly show your face,
Continuing to record how you log in to your Gamba account, and show your Gamba account "main page" and the user details in that account.
Hold a handwritten note next to your face containing the text I will send to the email address associated with your Gamba account.
Please ensure that both your face, the login process, and the handwritten note are fully and clearly visible.
Once the video is ready, you may either send it directly to my email at michal.k@casino.guru or, if it's too big to send via email, upload it to a platform such as Google Drive or OneDrive and share the download link with me so that I can download it and review it.
Please note that completing this step is essential for us to continue our investigation.
Pišem vam sada da bih vas obavestio da ću biti primoran da sprovedem regulatorne istrage o legitimnosti ove operacije i vašem učešću u zaveri.
Ljubazno vas molim da mi dostavite vašu ličnu dokumentaciju kako bi vas regulatori mogli kontaktirati i proveriti.
Takođe molim operatere ovog kazina da dostave svoju ličnu dokumentaciju kako bi regulatori mogli da isključe mogućnost da se ovaj kazino koristi kao paravan za kriminalnu dobit i pranje novca.
Čim nam dostavite ove podatke, možemo krenuti dalje.
„Supitsj" i ja nismo ista osoba. Ništa ne ukazuje da se ta osoba ponaša kao neko drugi osim kao ona sama. Nema dokaza da je ikada pristupio mom nalogu na gamba.com i nema dokaza koji su mi dostavljeni niti je sprovedena bilo kakva provera činjenica osim onoga što kazino tvrdi.
Slično tome, u Uslovima korišćenja kazina ne postoji klauzula koja kaže „Nijedan igrač ne sme biti u kontaktu sa supitsj-om ili će biti primoran da pruži dodatne detalje i njihove opklade će biti retroaktivno ograničene, kao i odmazda protiv njih samo zato što ga poznaju ili kontaktiraju."
Kontaktirao sam Supitsj kada je operater odbio da plati puni iznos jer je dobro poznato da ga je kazino prevario za više od 250 hiljada dolara i oklevetao njegovo ime strateški objavljujući lažne informacije o njemu kako bi mu oštetio ugled. Ovo se i dalje dešava, uključujući i deljenje privatnih informacija o njemu sa trećim licima. Mogu samo da pretpostavim da će ovo iskoristiti u tužnom pokušaju da prodube štetu koju očigledno nameravaju da nanesu van činjenica ovog slučaja. Supitsj objavljuje ove detalje na javnim forumima kako bi ponudio 100% transparentnost u ovim slučajevima, pošto vi i kazino birate šta javnost može, a šta ne može da vidi.
Mogu samo da pretpostavim da će uslediti još jedna nepovezana optužba kako bi se potpuno izbegla činjenica da je kazino već platio preko 10.000 dolara u ovom slučaju i time samo dokazuje da ih nije briga za moj identitet ili zahteve za sprečavanje pranja novca, već da pronađu bilo kakve izgovore da izbegnu plaćanje.
Licenca kazina zahteva da sve isplate budu vidljive korisniku na interfejsu igre, a to nije i još uvek nije bilo tako. To je problem ovog slučaja.
S poštovanjem,
a52
Dear Michal,
I am writing now to advise you that I will be forced to make regulatory inquiries into the legitimacy of this operation and your involvement in the conspiracy.
Kindly, I ask for you to provide to me your identity documentation so that the regulators can contact you and verify.
I also ask the same of the operators of this casino to also provide their personal documentation so regulators can rule out this casino being used as a front for criminal proceeds and money laundering.
As soon as you provide these details we can move forward.
"Supitsj" and me are not the same person. There is nothing to indicate that person is acting as anyone other than himself. There is no evidence that he has ever accessed my account on gamba.com and there is no evidence provided to me or any fact checking beyond what the casino claims.
Similarly, there is no clause in the casino Terms that state "No players may be in contact with supitsj or will be forced to provide additional details and have their bets retroactively capped, and retaliation against them for simply knowing or contacting him."
I contacted supitsj when the operator refused to pay the full amount because it is well know the casino has ripped him off for more than $250k and slandered his name by publishing false information about him strategically to damage his reputation. This is still happening in fact, including sharing private information about him with third parties. I can only assume they will leverage this in sad attempt to further the harm they are clearly intending to inflict outside of the facts of this case. Supitsj publishes these details in public forums to offer %100 transparency in these cases since you, and the casino are both cherrypicking what the public can and cant see.
I can only guess that next will come yet another unrelated accusation in order to completely dodge the fact the casino has already paid $10,000+ in this matter and thus only proves that they care not about the identity of me or AML requirements, but they care about finding any excuses at all to avoid paying.
The casino license requires all payouts be visible to the user on the game interface and it is not and it was not still. That is the issue of this case.
Operator mi je naneo značajnu štetu u stvarnom životu tako što mi je uskratio dobitke. Moje mentalno zdravlje je očigledno narušeno od trenutka kada sam pobedio do sada. Molim vas da ubrzate ovaj slučaj. Možda neće naštetiti kazinu jer već imaju dovoljno štete zbog trikova koje pokušavaju da koriste na meni, a kao što pokazuju i drugi slučajevi ovde.
čine sve što mogu da odbiju isplatu.
The Operator have caused me significant harm in real life by withholding my winnings. My mental well-being has been clearly damaged from the time I won until now. I’m asking you to speed up this case. It may not hurt the casino’s side because they already have enough through the tricks they are trying to use on me too and like other cases here shows.
Hvala vam što ste mi pružili video i dodatne informacije i dokaze. Iako je kvalitet videa daleko od idealnog i detalje koje sam očekivao je veoma teško prepoznati, u ovom trenutku bi to trebalo da bude dovoljno. Nastaviću razgovor sa predstavnikom kazina.
Takođe bih želeo da napomenem da se stil komunikacije u vašim imejlovima značajno razlikuje od načina na koji pišete na forumu. Gotovo da deluje kao da iza ovih tekstova stoje dve različite osobe.
Nisam siguran da je potrebno da odgovorim na svaki deo dugačkog teksta koji ste ponovo naveli, ali ste, naravno, potpuno slobodni da eskalirate stvar nadležnim organima ako smatrate da je to potrebno. Podaci o našoj kompaniji su lako dostupni na našoj veb stranici i siguran sam da će naš pravni tim biti više nego spreman da odgovori na sva pitanja ukoliko bilo koji organ odluči da nas kontaktira.
Bez obzira na to, ovo nema nikakvog uticaja na naš standardni proces rešavanja žalbi i nastaviću da rešavam vaš slučaj u skladu sa našim utvrđenim procedurama.
Dragi kazino Gamba,
Radujem se vašem odgovoru na moj poslednji imejl.
Dear amigofivetwo,
Thank you for providing me with the video and the additional information and evidence. Although the video's quality is far from ideal and the details I was expecting to see are very hard to recognise, at this moment it should be sufficient. I will continue my discussion with the casino representative.
I would also like to note that the communication style in your emails differs quite significantly from the way you write on the forum. It almost seems like two distinct individuals are behind these writings.
I’m not sure it’s necessary to respond to every part of the lengthy text you’ve once again provided, but you are, of course, entirely free to escalate the matter to the relevant authorities if you feel the need. Our company details are readily available on our website, and I'm sure our legal team will be more than prepared to address any enquiries should any authority decide to reach out.
Regardless, this has no bearing on our standard complaint-resolution process, and I will continue handling your case in accordance with our established procedures.
Dear Gamba Casino,
I'm looking forward to your response to my latest email.
Da, draga/draga, drugačije je jer koristim prevodilac. Teško mi je da ćaskam na engleskom jer ne znam svaku reč da bih opisao/la svoje probleme. Nije zabranjeno koristiti prevodilac ili Chatgpt da mi pomognu sa ispravnim rečenicama i sve to. Ako želiš, mogu i ovde da ćaskam na svoj način 😄 ali sam to uradio/la uz pomoć Chatgpt-a i prevodioca da bi ti bilo lakše da razumeš. Ako je problem, više neću koristiti prevodilac ili Chatgpt za ispravne rečenice.
iskreno
a52
Yes dear it‘s different because i use translater. It‘s hard for me to chat in english because i don‘t know every word to describe my problems. It‘s not forbidden to use translater or chatgpt to help me with correct sentences and all. If you want i can chat on my own style here too😄 but i did it with help of chatgpt and translater so it‘s easier for you to understand it . If it‘s a problem i wont use anymore translater or chatgpt for correct sentences.
Proveri svoju e-poštu, dragi Mihale. I molim te, ubrzaj, i ja sam imao samo 2 dana vremena za odgovor, zašto ti i Gamba imate više vremena od mene? I ja sam čovek kao i ti, stvarno je nepravedno.
Nisam čak mogao da uživam u odmoru. Dostavio sam mnogo dokaza. Uradio sam toliko istraživanja jer želim svoj novac koji sam zaradio na legalne načine.
Molim vas, pogledajte šta piše na ovom sajtu, čak i na sajtu Gamba, oni se ne pridržavaju sopstvenih pravila.
Ažurirano je pre dve godine. Moji snimci ekrana dokazuju da ništa od ovoga nije istina. Nije mi prikazano nikakvo ograničenje ili bilo šta drugo. Mogao sam da postavim opklade bez ikakvog upozorenja ili tačnog prikaza maksimalnog ograničenja dobitka po rundi. Ništa.
Check your email dear Michal. And pls speed it up i also had only 2 days respond time why gamba and you have more time then me. I‘m a Human like you too it‘s really unfair.
i even couldn‘t enjoy my vacation. I delivered a lot of evidence which. I made so many researches because i want my money which i won on legal ways
pls take a look on this even the gamba site what it says and they dont follow their own rules.
It was updated two years ago. My screenshots prove that none of this is true. No limit or anything else was shown to me. I was able to place the bets without any warning or any coorect display of the max win cap per round. Nothing.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Mogu se složiti sa vama da bi vreme odziva kazina moglo biti brže. Uz to, u kontaktu sam sa njima i van ove teme, i pošto se ovaj slučaj pokazao složenijim nego što se prvobitno očekivalo, potrebno je pažljivo razmotriti nekoliko faktora.
Naš cilj je da donesemo zaključak na osnovu temeljnog pregleda svih dostupnih informacija i dokaza. Naravno, ovo zahteva određeno vreme. Budite uvereni da postupam u skladu sa našim utvrđenim protokolima, Kako rešavamo žalbe u vezi sa kazinom i zašto | Kazino Guru , i da ću pružiti ažuriranje što je pre moguće.
Dear amigofivetwo,
I can agree with you that the casino’s response time could be faster. That said, I am in contact with them outside of this thread as well, and as this case has turned out to be more complex than initially anticipated, several factors need to be carefully considered.
Our goal is to reach a conclusion based on a thorough review of all available information and evidence. Naturally, this requires some time. Please be assured that I am proceeding in line with our established protocols, How We Resolve Casino Complaints and Why | Casino Guru, and will provide an update as soon as possible
✅ Korak 3 : 1. novembar 2025. - Nije potrebno jer sam verovao da je iznos isplate onaj koji prikazuje interfejs igre, što bi svaki igrač u bilo kom kazinu razumno očekivao, pa čak i Gamba selektivno bira kome, kada i koliko će isplatiti bez ikakvog obaveštenja korisnicima.
✅ Korak 4 : 1. novembar 2025. - Apsolutno je moguće, problem nije na mojoj strani. Problem je bez sumnje 100% sa kazinom. Ništa ne bih više voleo nego da moja dobitna opklada bude isplaćena u celosti i na vreme.
✅ Korak 6 : ?????? - Da li sam nešto zaboravio? Umesto da ispune svoja pisana obećanja koja su dali na nekoliko mesta svoje veb stranice, kao što su prozor za klađenje, informacije u centru za pomoć, podrška putem ćaskanja uživo, pa čak i stvarno područje koje nije vidljivo iz prozora igre u opisu igre, a koje se takođe menja u naizgled nasumičnim vremenima, onemogućavaju ubeđivanje kazina da nešto možda nije u redu, i umesto da to promene ili poprave kako bi sprečili budući spor, odlučili su da to potpuno ignorišu i traže izgovore i štete karakteru i finansijama ljudi.
Guru, nisam spor i ne volim da se prema meni tako postupa. Ovaj slučaj je zatvoren čim je isplata opklade pročitala puni iznos isplate, ali kazino je odlučio da selektivno primenjuje nejasne i skrivene uslove koje niko ne bi mogao da zna da zapravo nije pobedio, jer ne postoji drugo jasno vidljivo ili izabrano obaveštenje za krajnjeg korisnika o takvim dvosmislenim uslovima.
Jednostavna stvar koju treba uraditi jeste da se izvrši puna isplata, bez ikakvog daljeg odlaganja, izgovora ili pokušaja da se zaobiđe problem o kome je ovde reč alternativnim i nepovezanim načinima poput KYC-a, lažnih optužbi, namernog odlaganja odgovora i generalno samo podlih i zlonamernih poteza od strane kuće. Dosta je bilo dosta.
Želim da pojačam ovaj zahtev i sprečim budući scenario u kojem kuća ponovo pokuša da tvrdi da je „igrač lažno rešio pitanje". Ni pod kojim okolnostima neće biti data nikakva ovlašćenja van ove teme, i sve takve tvrdnje da su iznete su potpuno lažne. Ja ću 100% objaviti svoje namere po ovoj temi ovde putem ove arbitraže, koja tek nakon postizanja bilo kakvih dogovora može da uplati sredstva na moj igrački račun i zatvori stvar nakon povlačenja. Ništa drugo se ovde neće desiti, jer znam da me pritiskaju da prihvatim veoma nisku ponudu, a to je moralno i etički neprihvatljivo.
Here is what the process looks like:
Step 1: Player fills out a complaint form and submits it.
Step 2: We analyze the complaint and player's responses in the form and take a look at the casino and its T&Cs.
Step 3: We write a complaint description for our system and ask the player any additional questions to understand everything well.
Step 4: Based on everything we know, we try to give advice to the player to see if the situation can be resolved easily, without contacting the casino.
Step 5: If it is needed, we invite the casino to join the conversation and provide their side of the story.
Step 6: Based on the outcome, we close and classify the complaint, which will influence how the casino's Safety Index will be affected.
✅Step 3: November 1, 2025 - Not required since I believed the payout amount to be what the game interface showed, which every player on any casino would reasonably expect and even Gamba selectively chooses who and when and how much to payout without any notice to users.
✅Step 4: November 1, 2025 - Absolutely it can be, the issue is not here on my side. The issue is %100 without a doubt with the casino. I would love nothing more than for my winning bet to be honored in full and on time.
✅Step 6: ?????? - Am I forgetting something? Rather than make good on their promises that they made in writing across several areas of their website, like the bet window, the help center info, live chat support, and hell even the actual area that isnt visible from the game window in the game's description which also changes at seemingly random times, makes this impossible to convince the casino that something might be wrong here, and instead of changing it or fixing it so it prevents a future dispute, they chose to ignore it totally and make excuses and damage peoples character and finances.
Guru, I am not slow and I dont like being treated like I am. This case was closed the second the bet payout read the full payout amount but the casino chose to selectively enforce vague and hidden terms that no person wouldve been able to know had they not actually won since there's no other plainly visible or opted notification to end user of such ambiguous terms.
The simple thing to do here is to issue the full payout, without any further delay, excuse or attempt to circumvent the issue at hand here with alternative and unrelated ones like KYC, false allegations, purposefully delaying responses and overall just scummy and malicious moves all around by the house. Enough is enough.
I want to reinforce this demand and prevent a future scenario where the house again tries to claim that "player settled" falsely. Under no circumstances will any authorizations be made outside of this thread, and any such claims that they were made are totally false. I will %100 issue my intentions on this subject here through this arbitration, which after any agreements are reached only then can the casino credit my player account and close the matter upon withdraw. Nothing else will happen here, since I know they are pressuring me to take a very lowball offer, and it is unacceptable morally and ethically.
Utvrđeno je da ste vi ili osoba sa kojom ste podelili svoje podatke za Gamba Casino i Casino Guru nalog počinili ozbiljno kršenje naših utvrđenih pravila i politika. Kao rezultat ovog kršenja, i uprkos činjenici da su razgovori sa predstavnikom kazina napredovali ka potencijalno odgovarajućem rešenju, dužni smo da formalno zatvorimo ovaj slučaj.
Kazino Guru pruža svoje usluge besplatno i posluje po jasno definisanim standardima ponašanja. Poštovanje ovih standarda, uključujući poštovanje i prikladno ponašanje, je obavezno. Pošto ovi zahtevi nisu ispunjeni u ovom slučaju, naprotiv, prekršeni su u više navrata uprkos izdatom upozorenju.
Žalba mora biti odbijena . Ova odluka je konačna.
Želim vam puno sreće u rešavanju vašeg slučaja na druge načine.
Dear amigofivetwo,
It has been determined that either you or an individual with whom you shared your Gamba Casino and Casino Guru account credentials has committed a serious violation of our established rules and policies. As a result of this breach, and despite the fact that discussions with the casino representative were progressing toward a potentially appropriate resolution, we are required to formally close this case.
Casino Guru provides its services free of charge and operates under clearly defined standards of conduct. Compliance with these standards, including respectful and appropriate behaviour, is mandatory. As these requirements were not met in this instance, on the contrary, they were violated on multiple occasions despite a warning having been issued.
The complaint must be rejected. This decision is final.
I wish you the best of luck in resolving your case through other means.
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