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The player from Germany faced the confiscation of €950.89 in winnings and the cancellation of a €1,100 withdrawal by Gamblezen Casino. The player argued that the casino had misapplied Bonus Rule 1.4, as the balance had been correctly adjusted and converted to real money before further betting took place. The player requested mediation to recover the confiscated funds. The complaint was resolved after the casino acknowledged a technical error that had affected the player's balance and returned the full amount. The player confirmed receipt of the funds in the bank account, and the case was closed.
Igrač iz Nemačke suočio se sa konfiskacijom dobitka od 950,89 evra i otkazivanjem isplate od 1.100 evra od strane kazina Gamblezen. Igrač je tvrdio da je kazino pogrešno primenio Pravilo o bonusu 1.4, jer je stanje ispravno prilagođeno i konvertovano u pravi novac pre nego što je došlo do daljeg klađenja. Igrač je zatražio posredovanje kako bi povratio konfiskovana sredstva. Žalba je rešena nakon što je kazino priznao tehničku grešku koja je uticala na stanje igrača i vratio puni iznos. Igrač je potvrdio prijem sredstava na bankovni račun, a slučaj je zatvoren.
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Dragi tim gurua kazina,
Podnosim ovu žalbu protiv kazina Gamblezen u vezi sa nepravednom konfiskacijom 950,89 evra sa mog računa i otkazivanjem isplate od 1.100 evra. Kazino pogrešno tumači i zloupotrebljava svoje Pravilo o bonusima 1.4 kako bi poništio legitimne dobitke pravog novca.
Redosled događaja:
Iskoristio/la sam bonus od 30 evra i uspešno ispunio/la sve uslove klađenja.
Nakon završetka klađenja, automatizovani sistem kompanije Gamblezen je ispravno primenio Pravilo 1.4: moj saldo je ograničen i automatski smanjen na tačno 150 evra (5 puta iznos bonusa). Sistem je uklonio višak bonus dobitaka.
U tom tačnom trenutku, preostalih 150 evra je zvanično konvertovano i prebačeno na moj pravi novac / gotovinski saldo.
NISAM uplatio nikakve nove depozite. Jednostavno sam nastavio da igram igre koristeći ovaj otključani saldo od 150 evra pravog novca. Preuzeo sam pravi rizik sa svojim pravim novcem i uspeo sam da osvojim ukupno 1.100 evra.
Kada sam zatražio isplatu, Odeljenje za finansije je to otmenilo i konfiskovalo 950,89 evra, tvrdeći da se Pravilo 1.4 zauvek primenjuje na sve naredne dobitke jer sredstva prvobitno potiču od bonusa.
Zašto kazino nije u pravu:
Pravilo 1.4 kaže: „Svaki prekoračeni saldo biće otkazan pre isplate." Sistem kazina je već izvršio ovo tačno otkazivanje kada je smanjio moj saldo na 150 evra. Kada novac postane „Pravi novac", više nije ograničen ograničenjima bonusa. Kazino mi je dozvolio da slobodno ulažem ovaj saldo gotovine bez ikakvih ograničenja ili iskačućih upozorenja. Retrospektivno oduzimanje dobitaka nakon što igrač preuzme legitiman rizik sa konvertovanim novcem je veoma nepravedno i predatorsko.
Presedan slučaj:
Želeo bih da istaknem da je Casino Guru već presudio protiv Gamblezen kazina u potpuno identičnom slučaju gde su igraču vraćeni dobici nakon konverzije:
Postupio sam u potpunosti u dobroj veri i poštovao sve pisane uslove. Ljubazno molim tim Casino Guru-a da posreduje u ovom sporu i pomogne mi da povratim svoja oduzeta sredstva od 950,89 evra i završim isplatu od 1.100 evra.
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Dear Casino Guru Team,
I am opening this complaint against Gamblezen Casino regarding the unfair confiscation of €950.89 from my balance and the cancellation of my €1,100 withdrawal. The casino is misinterpreting and abusing their Bonus Rule 1.4 to void legitimate real money winnings.
Sequence of Events:
I claimed a €30 bonus and successfully completed all the wagering requirements.
Upon completion of the wagering, Gamblezen’s automated system correctly applied Rule 1.4: my balance was capped and automatically reduced to exactly €150 (5x the bonus amount). The excess bonus winnings were removed by the system.
At this precise moment, the remaining €150 was officially converted and transferred into my Real Money / Cash Balance.
I did NOT make any new deposits. I simply continued to play games using this unlocked €150 real cash balance. I took a genuine risk with my own real funds and managed to win a total of €1,100.
When I requested a withdrawal, the Finance Department cancelled it and confiscated €950.89, claiming that Rule 1.4 applies to all subsequent winnings forever because the funds originally originated from a bonus.
Why the Casino is Wrong:
Rule 1.4 states: "Any exceeded balance will be canceled prior to withdrawal." The casino’s system already performed this exact cancellation when it reduced my balance to €150. Once the money becomes "Real Cash", it is no longer bound by bonus caps. The casino allowed me to wager this cash balance freely without any restrictions or pop-up warnings. Retrospectively confiscating winnings after a player takes a legitimate risk with converted cash is highly unfair and predatory.
Precedent Case:
I would like to highlight that Casino Guru has already ruled against Gamblezen Casino in a 100% identical case where the player's post-conversion winnings were reinstated:
I acted entirely in good faith and followed all written terms. I kindly ask the Casino Guru team to mediate this dispute and help me recover my confiscated funds of €950.89 and complete my €1,100 withdrawal.
Thank you for your assistance.
Kind regards,
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam puno što ste poslali žalbu. Žao mi je što ste imali negativno iskustvo sa kazinom Gamblezen. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Da li ste u bilo kom trenutku obavešteni da uslovi bonusa ostaju na snazi čak i nakon što je ispunjen uslov klađenja?
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da li je stanje na vašem kazino računu podeljeno na stanje pravog novca i stanje bonus novca?
Da li se stanje na vašem računu prikazivalo kao „za isplatu"/„pravi novac" ili su vaši dobici i dalje prikazivani u bonus stanju?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće.
Unapred vam se mnogo zahvaljujem na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with Gamblezen Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.
Were you informed at any point that the bonus terms and conditions remain applicable even after the wagering requirement has been completed?
Could you please confirm whether your casino account balance was divided into real money and bonus money balances?
Did the balance you continued playing with appear as "withdrawable"/"real money", or were your winnings still displayed in the bonus balance?
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible.
Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Attila
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam na odgovoru i što ste ispitali moj slučaj. Evo preciznih odgovora na vaša pitanja na osnovu mog iskustva i priloženih snimaka ekrana:
Da li ste u bilo kom trenutku obavešteni da uslovi i odredbe bonusa ostaju na snazi čak i nakon što je ispunjen uslov za klađenje?
Ne, sistem me nikada nije obavestio, niti je bilo iskačuće poruke ili obaveštenja u kojem se navodi da će se uslovi bonusa kontinuirano primenjivati na moju igru nakon konverzije. Postupio sam u potpuno dobroj veri, pretpostavljajući da će, kada sistem automatski podesi moj balans, preostala sredstva biti standardni pravi novac.
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da li je stanje na vašem kazino računu podeljeno na stanje pravog novca i bonus novca?
Da, kao što možete videti na priloženom snimku ekrana, Gamblezen interfejs jasno deli nalog na odvojene odeljke: „Guthaben" (Pravo stanje) i „Bonus-Guthaben" (Bonus stanje).
Da li se stanje na stanju sa kojim ste nastavili da igrate prikazivalo kao „za isplatu"/„pravi novac" ili su vaši dobici i dalje bili prikazani u bonus stanju?
Kada su uslovi za klađenje ispunjeni, moj saldo je automatski ograničen i u potpunosti prebačen u odeljak „Guthaben" (Pravi saldo). Odeljak „Bonus-Guthaben" je pao na 0,00 €. Sredstva su u potpunosti prikazana kao pravi novac koji se može isplatiti, a sistem mi je omogućio da se kladim koristeći ovaj pravi saldo bez ikakvih softverskih ograničenja.
Takođe bih želeo da razjasnim istoriju transakcija prikazanu na snimku ekrana:
Otkazana isplata od 141,00 € je zahtev koji sam prvobitno sam podneo nakon konverzije bonusa, ali sam odlučio da je sam otkažem kako bih nastavio da igram sa svojim stvarnim stanjem. Zatim sam uspešno povećao stanje na 1.100 €. Zatražio sam isplate u ukupnom iznosu (500 € + 500 € + 100 €). Kazino je otkazao ove konkretne zahteve, konfiskovao 950,89 € i obradio samo ograničeni iznos od 150 € (-150,00 € zatvoreno).
Kao što kaže finansijski tim Gamblezen u pošti
Ovo potvrđuje da su mi dozvolili da slobodno igram i rizikujem svoj konvertovani novčani saldo, samo da bi primenili „dvostruko ograničenje" nakon što sam pobedio, što se poklapa sa presedanom koji sam pomenuo.
Hvala vam još jednom na posredništvu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Hello,
Thank you for your response and for looking into my case. Here are the precise answers to your questions based on my experience and the attached screenshots:
Were you informed at any point that the bonus terms and conditions remain applicable even after the wagering requirement has been completed?
No, I was never informed by the system, nor was there any pop-up message or notification stating that the bonus terms would continuously apply to my gameplay after the conversion. I acted in completely good faith, assuming that once the system automatically adjusted my balance, the remaining funds were standard real cash.
Could you please confirm whether your casino account balance was divided into real money and bonus money balances?
Yes, as you can see in the attached screenshot , the Gamblezen interface clearly divides the account into separate sections: "Guthaben" (Real Balance) and "Bonus-Guthaben" (Bonus Balance).
Did the balance you continued playing with appear as "withdrawable"/"real money", or were your winnings still displayed in the bonus balance?
Once the wagering requirements were completed, my balance was automatically capped and shifted entirely into the "Guthaben" (Real Balance) section. The "Bonus-Guthaben" section dropped to €0.00. The funds were fully displayed as real, withdrawable money, and the system allowed me to place bets using this real balance without any software restrictions.
I would also like to clarify the transaction history shown in screenshot:
The cancelled €141.00 withdrawal was a request I initially made myself after the bonus conversion, but I decided to cancel it on my own to continue playing with my real balance. I then successfully increased my balance to €1,100. I requested withdrawals totaling this amount (€500 + €500 + €100). The casino cancelled these specific requests, confiscated €950.89, and only processed the capped amount of €150 (-150.00 € Abgeschlossen).
As the Mail from gamblezen finance team says
This confirms they allowed me to freely play and risk my own converted cash balance, only to apply a "double cap" after I won, which matches the precedent case I referenced.
Thank you again for your mediation.
Best regards,
[Redacted]
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Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Samjuel ( samuel.s@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
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Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Samuel (samuel.s@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
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I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Kind regards,
Attila
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Dragi/a suitedmemo,
Drago mi je što smo se upoznali putem e-pošte. Zovem se Samjuel i od sada ću vam pomagati sa vašom žalbom.
Ako ima nekih novosti ili detalja od vaše poslednje poruke, molim vas da ih podelite sa mnom.
Kao deo naše standardne procedure, takođe pozivam predstavnika kazina Gamblezen da se pridruži ovom razgovoru. Njihov doprinos bi trebalo da nam pomogne da efikasnije pokrenemo slučaj.
Dragi kazino Gemblezen,
Molimo vas da pružite detaljne informacije o problemu igrača, posebno tačne razloge zašto su igračevi dobici konfiskovani. Pored toga, igrač tvrdi da je maksimalni limit isplate povezan sa bonusom efektivno primenjen dva puta. Molimo vas da razjasnite da li je ovo tačno, objasnite kako je izračunat konačni saldo igrača i naznačite relevantne Uslove i odredbe koji podržavaju odluku kazina. Ako su dostupni, molimo vas da dostavite i sve relevantne dokaze koji podržavaju odluku kazina, kao što su dnevnik igranja igrača, istorija bonusa, istorija salda ili bilo koji drugi zapis koji potkrepljuje zaključke kazina.
Hvala vam na saradnji i blagovremenom odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Samuel
Dear suitedmemo,
It’s nice to e-meet you. My name is Samuel, and I’ll be assisting you with your complaint from now on.
If there are any updates or new details since your last message, please share them with me.
As part of our standard procedure, I’m also inviting a representative from Gamblezen Casino to join this conversation. Their input should help us move the case forward more efficiently.
Dear Gamblezen Casino,
Please provide detailed information regarding the player's issue, specifically the exact reasons why the player's winnings were confiscated. In addition, the player alleges that the maximum cashout limit associated with the bonus was effectively applied twice. Please clarify whether this is correct, explain how the player's final balance was calculated, and indicate the relevant Terms and Conditions that support the casino's decision. If available, please also provide any relevant supporting evidence, such as the player's gameplay log, bonus history, balance history, or any other records that substantiate the casino's conclusions.
Thank you for your cooperation and a timely response.
Best regards,
Samuel
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Dragi Samjuele,
Hvala vam što ste preuzeli moj slučaj i što ste jasno rešili problem „duplog ograničenja" sa kazinom.
Nema novih ažuriranja ili promena sa moje strane od mojih poslednjih poruka. Već sam dostavio sve snimke ekrana i detalje. Sada čekam objašnjenje od Gamblezen kazina.
Hvala vam na podršci.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Mehmet Efe Juksel
Dear Samuel,
Thank you for taking over my case and for clearly addressing the "double cap" issue with the casino.
There are no new updates or changes on my end since my last messages. I have already provided all the screenshots and details. I am now waiting for Gamblezen Casino's explanation.
Thank you for your support.
Best regards,
Mehmet Efe Yüksel
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Dragi Samjuele,
Hvala vam što ste nam pružili informacije u vezi sa ovom žalbom.
Pregledali smo situaciju sa igračem Suitedmemo.
Tokom naše istrage, identifikovana je tehnička greška koja je uticala na stanje igrača. Kao rezultat toga, odlučili smo da rešimo stvar u korist klijenta - sredstva su u potpunosti vraćena na stanje igrača.
Izvinjavamo se zbog eventualnih neprijatnosti.
Želimo vam prijatno iskustvo igranja!
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kazino Gemblezen
Dear Samuel,
Thank you for providing the information regarding this complaint.
We have reviewed the situation with player Suitedmemo.
During our investigation, a technical error was identified that affected the player's balance. As a result, we have decided to resolve the matter in favor of the client - the funds have been fully returned to the player's balance.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
We wish you a pleasant gaming experience!
Best regards,
Gamblezen Casino
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na odgovorima.
Dragi kazino Gemblezen,
Hvala vam što ste istražili ovaj problem i što ste nam pružili najnovije informacije. Cenim vašu spremnost da pregledate slučaj i rešite ga u korist igrača nakon što identifikujete tehnički problem.
Dragi/a suitedmemo,
Kazino je potvrdio da su sredstva u potpunosti vraćena na vaš saldo.
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da li je ovo tačno sa vaše strane i da li sada imate pristup punom iznosu o kome je reč? Ako je moguće, molim vas da me obavestite i da li ste uspeli da podnesete zahtev za povlačenje ili postoje neki preostali problemi koje treba rešiti.
Sačekaću vašu potvrdu pre nego što nastavim dalje.
Hvala vam obojici na saradnji.
Hello everyone,
thank you for your replies.
Dear Gamblezen Casino,
thank you for investigating this matter and for providing an update. I appreciate your willingness to review the case and resolve it in the player's favor after identifying the technical issue.
Dear suitedmemo,
the casino has confirmed that the funds have been fully returned to your balance.
Could you please confirm whether this is correct from your side and whether you now have access to the full amount in question? If possible, please also let me know whether you have been able to submit a withdrawal request or if there are any remaining issues that still need to be addressed.
I will await your confirmation before proceeding further.
Thank you both for your cooperation.
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Zdravo svima
Zaista sam zahvalan obema stranama jer sam do danas dobio tačan iznos na svoj bankovni račun.
Sa moje strane, slučaj je rešen
Hvala na pomoći
Mehmet Efe Juksel
Hello everyone
I am really thankful to both parties as I have gotten the exact amount into my bank account by today.
By my side the case has been resolved
Thanks for helping
Mehmet Efe Yüksel
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Dragi/a suitedmemo,
Drago mi je da čujem da je vaš problem rešen. Označiću žalbu kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Cenim vašu saradnju i potvrdu. Ako ikada u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi. Tu smo da vam pomognemo.
Kao što znate, ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti prihvatamo bakšiš. Međutim, bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak da podelite svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na Trustpilot-u https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru . Iskrena recenzija, zajedno sa svim predlozima za poboljšanje, bila bi neprocenjiva. Vaše povratne informacije bi mogle pomoći drugima koji možda razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju za pomoć u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
Unapred vam hvala na vašem vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Samuel
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Dear suitedmemo,
I'm glad to hear that your issue has been resolved. I'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. I appreciate your cooperation and confirmation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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