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The player from Spain wanted to close her account at King Maker Casino due to gambling addiction treatment, but the casino refused to assist her and required her to send an email instead. Despite her request, she had recently deposited 1300 euros and lost it all. She then filed a complaint against the casino for not implementing player protection measures. The issue was resolved when the casino processed her refund after she initially refused their offer. However, the complaint was ultimately rejected due to her lack of response to the Complaints Team's inquiries.
Igračica iz Španije je želela da zatvori svoj nalog u King Maker Casinu zbog lečenja zavisnosti od kockanja, ali je kazino odbio da joj pomogne i zahtevao je da umesto toga pošalje e-mail. Uprkos njenom zahtevu, nedavno je položila 1300 evra i sve je izgubila. Zatim je podnela žalbu protiv kazina zbog nesprovođenja mera zaštite igrača. Problem je rešen kada je kazino obradio njen povraćaj novca nakon što je prvobitno odbila njihovu ponudu. Međutim, žalba je na kraju odbijena zbog njenog izostanka odgovora na upite Žalbenog tima.
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Igram u ovom kazinu oko 6 meseci. Stvari uglavnom idu dobro, ali postoji nekoliko problema koje treba istaći. Bez obzira koliko uplatim, ne daju nikakve bonuse. Konkretno, juče sam deponovao 1300 evra i dobio bonus lojalnosti od samo 10. Pored toga, uložio sam hiljade evra u ovaj kazino uz niske opklade i nikada nisam napravio ni evro profita. Sve je to prilično čudno. U svakom slučaju, to nije ono što sam hteo da pomenem. Poslednjih nekoliko dana počeo sam da se lečim od zavisnosti od kockanja u jednom veoma poznatom španskom udruženju. Nakon instaliranja nekoliko barijera na moje telefone i uređaje, ovo je bio jedini dostupan kazino: King Maker Casino. Iz tog razloga sam ih ljubazno zamolio preko ćaskanja da zatvore moj nalog. Odbili su i rekli mi da moram da pošaljem e-mail , što sam uradio istog dana. Juče, 3. februara, tokom jedne od mojih epizoda ove bolesti — jer da, to je bolest i treba da budemo bolje zaštićeni — položio sam 1300 evra. Naravno, izgubio sam sve, nije bilo drugačije ni tog dana. Ponovo sam u ćaskanju tražio da mi zatvore nalog, molim, i oni su me ponovo uputili na isti mejl. Poslao sam još jednu poruku na e-mail tražeći od njih da zatvore moj nalog, ali ovog puta sam bio manje ljubazan i sada vodim žalbu protiv ovog kazina vlastima Kurasaa. Samo molim da mi zatvore račun i da mi vrate iznos jučerašnjeg depozita. Podsetimo se da sam igrao mesecima, a oni su bili svedoci nepromišljenih depozita u jednom danu i do 4000 evra, a niko nije primenio nikakvu vrstu zaštite igrača.
I've been playing at this casino for about 6 months. Things generally go well, but there are a couple of issues to highlight. No matter how much I deposit, they don't give any bonuses. Specifically, yesterday I deposited 1300 euros and received a loyalty bonus of just 10. Additionally, I've put thousands of euros into this casino with low bets and have never made even a euro of profit. It's all quite strange. Anyway, that's not what I was going to mention. Over the past few days, I've started treatment for gambling addiction with a very well-known Spanish association. After installing several barriers on my phones and devices, this was the only accessible casino: King Maker Casino. For this reason, I kindly asked them through the chat to close my account. They refused and told me I had to send an email to support@king, which I did on that same day. Yesterday, February 3rd, during one of my episodes of this disease—because yes, it is a disease and we should be better protected—I deposited 1300 euros. Of course, I lost everything, it was no different that day. I asked again in the chat for them to close my account, please, and they directed me to the same email again. I sent another message to the email asking them to close my account, but this time, I was less friendly, and now I am managing a complaint against this casino with the authorities of Curacao. I'm only asking that they close my account and refund the amount of yesterday's deposit. Let's remember that I've been playing for months, and they've witnessed reckless deposits in a single day of up to 4000 euros, and no one has implemented any sort of player protection.
Llevo unos 6 meses jugando en este casino. La verdad que va bien pero hay un par de cosas a destacar. Por mas que deposites no te dan ningún bono, concretamente ayer deposite 1300 euros y me dieron un bono de lealtad de 10. Por otro lado decir que llevo miles de euros puestos en este casino, con apuestas bajas y nunca he obtenido ni un euro de beneficio. Todo un tanto extraño. No importa, no iba a contar eso. Desde hace unos días he empezado tratamiento contra la ludopatía con una asociación española muy famosa. Después de instalarme varias barreras en los teléfonos y dispositivos el único casino accesible era este: king maker casino. Por ese motivo les pedí por favor atraves del chat que me cerraran la cuenta. Ellos se negaron y me dijeron que tenia que escribir un mail a support@king y asi hice ese mismo día. Ayer día 3 de febrero, en uno de mis ataques de la enfermedad, porque si, es una enfermedad y deberíamos estar mas protegido, deposite por valor de 1300 euros. Obviamente perdí todo, no iba a ser menos ese día, volví a pedirle por el chat que me cerraran la cuenta por favor y volvieron a dirigirme a este mail. Volví a enviar un mensaje para que me cerraran la cuenta al mail pero esta vez no tan amigable y estoy gestionando la denuncia de este casino a las autoridades de curacao. No pido nada mas que me cierren la cuenta y me devuelvan las cantidades del deposito de ayer. Recordemos que llevo meses jugando y han visto depósitos desenfrenados en un día como 4000 euros y nadie ha puesto ningún tipo de protección a, jugador.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Veoma mi je žao što čujem za vaše negativno iskustvo. Prvo, želeo bih da vam objasnim koja je razlika između zatvaranja naloga i samoisključenja:
Zatvaranje naloga je jednostavno i nema skoro nikakav uticaj - igrač može ponovo da otvori nalog u bilo kom trenutku, a kazino nema nikakvu obavezu prema igraču.
S druge strane, samoisključivanje to čini. Ako igrač uspešno izvrši samoisključivanje, kazino se slaže da neće otvoriti ovaj nalog ili ako da samo pod određenim okolnostima (nakon perioda hlađenja, a to se ne može učiniti za igrače koji su zavisni/sa problemom sa kockanjem).
Da li biste bili ljubazni da mi prosledite zahteve za zatvaranje naloga koje ste poslali kazinu zajedno sa odgovorima kazina? Moja adresa e-pošte je veronika.f@casino.guru .
Hvala vam puno unapred.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Dear sofiagarcia21,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience. First, I’d like to explain to you what the difference is between closing the account and self-exclusion:
Closing an account is simple and has almost no impact - the player can reopen the account anytime, and the casino has no obligation to the player.
On the other hand, self-exclusion does. If a player successfully makes a self-exclusion the casino agrees not to open this account or if yes only under particular circumstances (after the cooling off period and this cannot be done for players who are addicted/with a gambling problem).
Would you be so kind as to forward me the account closure requests that you sent to the casino along with the casino's replies? My email address is veronika.f@casino.guru.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
Veronika
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Zdravo Veronika, pre svega, hvala ti što si mi tako brzo odgovorila. Drugo, želeo bih da vam kažem da svaki put kada razgovaram sa njima putem ćaskanja uživo, kažem im o svom problemu. Iako trenutno nemam dokaz o ćaskanju uživo, imam imejl gde tražim samoisključivanje . Zahtevam to hitno. Već sam ti sve poslao mejlom. Hvala.
Hello Veronika, first of all, thank you for answering me so quickly. Secondly, I would like to tell you that every time I speak to them via live chat, I tell them about my problem. Although I currently have no proof of the live chats, I do have the email where I request self-exclusion . I request it urgently. I have already sent you everything by email. Thank you.
Hola Veronika en primer lugar gracias por contestarme tan rápido, en segundo lugar comentarte que siempre que hablo con ellos por el chat en vivo les comento mi problema. Aunque actualmente no tengo pruebas sobre los chats en vivo si tengo el mail donde solicito la autoexclusión. Lo solicito de forma urgente. Ya te he enviado todo al mail. Gracias
Hvala vam na vašim imejlovima. Na snimku ekrana vidim da ste tražili samoisključivanje, ali niste eksplicitno naveli razlog ove odluke. Imajte na umu da smo u mogućnosti da pomognemo igračima da dobiju povraćaj izgubljenih depozita samo ako izričito navedu zavisnost od kockanja kao razlog za zahtev za samoisključivanje.
Kazino vas je u svom odgovoru na vašu e-poštu zamolio za pojašnjenje razloga za vaš zahtev za zatvaranje naloga. Da li ste u nekoj od narednih poruka naveli zavisnost od kockanja?
Hvala vam na saradnji. Radujem se što ću čuti od vas.
Thank you for your emails. I can see in the screenshot that you requested self-exclusion, however, you did not explicitly mention the reason behind this decision. Please note that we are only able to assist players in obtaining a refund of their lost deposits if they specifically state gambling addiction as the reason for the self-exclusion request.
The casino asked you in their response to your email for clarification on the reason for your account closure request. Have you specified gambling addiction in any of your subsequent messages?
Thank you for your cooperation. I look forward to hearing from you.
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Zdravo, nalog još nije zatvoren, insistiram, ali ga ne zatvaraju, već sam im u nekoliko navrata rekao da je to zbog ovog problema. Poslaću vam mejl
Hello, the account is not closed yet, I keep insisting but they do not close it, I have already told them on several occasions that it is because of this problem. I will send you an email
Hola, la cuenta aún no está cerrada, yo sigo insistiendo pero ellos no la cierran, ya les he dicho en varias ocasiones que es por este problema. Te envío al email
Hvala vam na snimcima ekrana. Da pojasnimo, da li sam u pravu kada sam shvatio da ste pomenuli zavisnost od kockanja samo u ćaskanju 4. februara 2025. godine, odnosno nakon što ste uplatili depozit od 1300 € i igrali ga u gostima?
Thank you for the screenshots. To clarify, am I correct in understanding that you mentioned gambling addiction only in chat on 4 February 2025, that is, after you made the 1300€ deposit and played it away?
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Da, do danas mi još uvek nisu zatvorili račun i uplatio sam još 1400, pokušao sam da ih molim da mi zatvore račun ali ništa ne rade
Yes, to this day they still haven't closed my account and I have deposited 1400 more, I have tried to beg them to close my account but they don't do anything
si, a dia de hoy siguen sin cerrarme la cuenta y he depositado 1400 mas, he intentado suplicar que me cierren la cuenta pero no hacen nada
Hvala vam na odgovoru. Nažalost, pošto ste prvi put spomenuli zavisnost od kockanja tek nakon što ste izgubili depozit, nećemo moći da vam pomognemo da povratite povraćaj novca. Imajte na umu da možemo pomoći samo u slučajevima kada igrač direktno izjavi da pati od zavisnosti od kockanja, a kazino ne blokira njihov nalog, već mu dozvoljava da nastavi sa deponovanjem i igranjem.
U vašem slučaju, možemo vam pomoći da zatvorite nalog samo ako ste zainteresovani.
Prilikom podnošenja zahteva za samoisključivanje, bitno je da jasno navedete razlog svog zahteva i navedete vremenski period. Takođe, obavezno označite temu e-pošte na jasan i prepoznatljiv način, jer podrška kazina obično obrađuje mnoge zahteve svakog dana. Vidljiva tema će pomoći da se vaš zahtev brzo obradi. Pored toga, toplo preporučujem da sačuvate svoj zahtev za samoisključivanje kao dokaz.
Evo primera šablona za vašu referencu:
Naslov e-pošte: Samoisključivanje zbog zavisnosti od kockanja
Podaci o igraču:
ime:
prezime:
Datum rođenja:
Prijava u kazino:
Adresa e-pošte:
„Pozdrav [ime kazina],
Pišem da vas obavestim da želim da se odmah isključim iz ovog kazina i da ne primam marketinške materijale u vezi sa kockanjem na minimalni period od [kkk meseci/godina/život].
Razlog koji je prethodio mojoj odluci je zavisnost od kockanja.
Potvrđujem da mi neće biti dozvoljeno da poništim svoje samoisključivanje tokom ovog perioda i da se samoisključenje ne može ukinuti pre isteka dogovorenog perioda."
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, since you mentioned gambling addiction for the first time only after you lost your deposit, we won’t be able to help you recover the refund. Please note that we can only assist in cases where the player directly states that they suffer from gambling addiction and the casino does not block their account but allows them to continue depositing and playing.
In your case, we can only help you close your account if you are interested.
When applying for self-exclusion, it’s essential to clearly state the reason for your request and specify the time period. Also, make sure to mark the email subject in a clear and recognizable way, as casino support typically handles many requests each day. A visible subject will help ensure your request is processed promptly. Additionally, I strongly recommend saving your self-exclusion request as proof.
Here’s an example template for your reference:
Email subject: Self-exclusion due to gambling addiction
Player’s info:
First name:
Last name:
Date of birth:
Casino login:
Email address:
"Greetings [Casino Name],
I’m writing to inform you that I wish to exclude myself immediately from this casino and from receiving any gambling-related marketing materials for a minimum period of [xxx months/years/lifetime].
The reason that preceded my decision is gambling addiction.
I acknowledge that I will not be allowed to rescind my self-exclusion during this period, and self-exclusion cannot be lifted before the end of the agreed period."
Kažem vam da su me nakon što sam rekao da imam kockanje pustili da nastavim sa uplatom, tačnije u petak 14. uplatio sam 1400 evra. Razumem da prvi put to nije važilo, ali pošto sam ih molio da mi blokiraju nalog i rekao im zašto, ni oni to nisu uradili i ja sam nastavio da se kladim. Možete li mi pomoći?
I am telling you that after I said I had a gambling addiction, they let me continue depositing, specifically on Friday the 14th I deposited 1400 euros. I understand that the first time it was not valid, but after begging them to block my account and telling them why, they did not do it either and I continued betting. Could you help me please?
Le estoy diciendo que posteriormente a decir que tenia adiccion al juego, me dejaron seguir depositando concretamente el viernes dia 14 deposite 1400 euros. Entiendo que en la primera ocasion no era valida, pero despues de suplicarles que me bloqueen la cuenta y decirles el porque tampoco lo hicieron y segui apostando. Podrian ayudarme porfavor?
Hvala vam puno, sofiagarcia21, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( michal.v@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, sofiagarcia21, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.v@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
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Zdravo sofiagarcia21,
Moje ime je Michal i ja ću vam pomoći u vašem slučaju. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno doći do uspešnog rešenja vašeg problema.
Želeo bih da zatražim prisustvo predstavnika kazina u ovom razgovoru.
Dragi Kingmaker kazino ,
Da li biste mogli da pružite dodatne informacije u vezi sa ovim pitanjem i razjasnite situaciju? Takođe bih vam bio zahvalan ako biste nam dostavili sve relevantne dokaze.
Hvala unapred.
S poštovanjem,
Michal
Hello sofiagarcia21,
My name is Michal and I will be assisting you with your case. I hope that together we will come to a successful resolution of your issue.
I would like to request the presence of a representative from the casino in this conversation.
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate it if you provided us with any and all relevant evidence.
Molimo vas da proverite našu ponudu dostavljenu putem e-pošte.
Hvala unapred.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kingmaker Team
Dear sofiagarcia21,
We would kindly request to check our offer provided via email.
Thank you in advance.
Kind Regards,
Kingmaker Team
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Zdravo, možete li mi reći na koji imejl pišete? Nisam ništa dobio.
Hi, could you tell me what email you are writing to? I haven't received anything.
Hola, podrían decirme a qué mail me están escribiendo? No he recibido nada
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Već sam pregledao ponudu i već sam im odgovorio kao neusaglašen, nastaviću da prijavim ako mi pošalju još jedan predlog.
I have already reviewed the offer and have already responded to them as non-compliant, I will continue to report if they send me another proposal.
Ya he revisado la oferta y ya les he contestado como no conforme, seguiré informando si me mandan otra propuesta
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Obaveštavam vas o svojoj situaciji, kazino mi je ponudio da vratim polovinu onoga što tražim. Očigledno sam odbio. Razumem da u ovom trenutku oni nešto predlažu zato što prihvataju svoju krivicu, zar ne? Odgovorio sam da predlažem drugi iznos, ali su prestali da mi odgovaraju na mejlove. Prošlo je oko 48 sati od poslednje komunikacije sa kazinom putem e-pošte. Šta da očekujem da mi se vrati, Guru kazino? Da li mislite da je pošteno da nude manji iznos od onoga što sam položio nakon što sam saopštio svoju zavisnost? Možete li me uputiti kako da postupim i da nastavim? Hvala.
I am updating you on my situation, the casino has made me an offer to return half of what I am claiming. Obviously I have refused. I understand that at the moment they are proposing something it is because they accept their guilt, right? I have replied proposing another amount but they have stopped answering my emails. It has been about 48 hours since the last communication with the casino via email. What should I expect to be returned to me, Guru casino? Do you think it is fair that they offer a smaller amount than what I deposited after communicating my addiction? Could you guide me on how to act and proceed? Thank you.
Actualizo sobre mi situación, el casino me ha echo una oferta de devolverme la mitad de lo que estoy reclamando. Obviamente me he negado. Entiendo que en el momento en que están proponiendo algo es porque aceptan su culpa no? He contestado proponiendo otra cantidad pero ya me han dejado de contestar a los emails. Han pasado unas 48 horas desde la última comunicación con el casino a través del mail. ¿Que debería esperar que me devolvieran, Gurú casino? ¿ Les parece justo que oferten una cantidad menor de lo depositado despues de comunicar mi adicción? Podrían guiarme sobre como actuar y proceder? Gracias
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Draga sofiagarcia21,
Obavestite me ovde u temi čim dobijete povraćaj novca, kako bih mogao da zatvorim ovu žalbu kao rešenu. Čekaću da se javiš.
Dear sofiagarcia21,
Please let me know here in the thread as soon as you receive your refund, so I can close this complaint as resolved. I will be waiting to hear from you.
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Dragi sofiagarcia21,
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear sofiagarcia21,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
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Nažalost, igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja. Shodno tome, nismo u mogućnosti da dalje istražujemo i nemamo drugog izbora nego da odbijemo ovu žalbu.
Igrač može ponovo da otvori ovu žalbu u bilo kom trenutku.
Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.
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Ponovo smo otvorili ovu žalbu na zahtev sofiagarcia21. Naša namera je da ovom slučaju pružimo još jednu priliku za rešavanje, osiguravajući da obe strane mogu da dođu do zadovoljavajućeg zaključka.
Igrač me je obavestio da je uspeo da otvori drugi nalog sa identičnim ličnim podacima, ali sa drugom adresom e-pošte.
Draga sofiagarcia21,
Možete li me, molim vas, obavestiti da li ste koristili isti način plaćanja kao i na prethodnom nalogu? Pored toga, da li ste popunili informacije u svom profilu pre ili nakon uplate depozita na novi nalog?
We have reopened this complaint at the request of sofiagarcia21. Our intention is to provide this case with another opportunity for resolution, ensuring that both parties involved are able to arrive at a satisfactory conclusion.
I was informed by the player that they managed to open another account with identical personal details, but a different email address.
Dear sofiagarcia21,
Could you please inform me if you have utilized the same payment method as your previous account? Additionally, did you complete the information in your profile prior to or after making a deposit in your new account?
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Zdravo, uvek te teraju da ih popuniš unapred. Kada otvoriš račun. Uplatio sam sa istog računa, da. Ali mislim da je kartica nova.
Hi, they always make you fill them out beforehand. When you open the account. I deposited from the same account, yes. But I think the card is new.
HOLA, SIEMPRE TE OBLIGAN A RELLENARLOS ANTES. CUANDO ABRES LA CUENTA. DEPOSITE DESDE LA MISMA CUENTA, SI. PERO CREO QUE LA TARJETA ES NUEVA.
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Dragi kazino Kingmejker,
Možete li potvrditi da igrači treba da popune svoje lične podatke pre nego što uplate depozit? Da li možete da pronađete drugi nalog ili su vam potrebni dodatni podaci od igrača? Možete li potvrditi da su informacije identične informacijama na prethodnom nalogu koji je igrač kreirao?
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Can you confirm that the players need to fill out their personal details before depositing? Are you able to locate the second account or do you require additional details from the player? Can you confirm that the information was identical to the information in the previous account created by the player?
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Zdravo, pažljivo pogledaj, kada se prijaviš, ne traži se da popuniš svoje podatke, ali je postojao deo sa uzvičnikom, i ja sam taj koji je popunio svoje podatke i potom verifikovao imejl. 100% sam siguran. Na ovom nalogu, broj telefona i imejl adresa su se promenili, ali ime, prezime i adresa su ostali potpuno isti.
Hi, looking closely, when you log in it doesn't ask you to fill in your details, but there was a section with an exclamation mark, and I was the one who filled in my details and verified the email afterward. I'm 100% sure. In this account, the phone number and email address changed, but the name, surname, and address were exactly the same.
hola, mirando bien al iniciar sesión no te pide que rellenes tus datos, pero había un apartado donde salía una exclamación y yo fui quien rellene mis datos y verifique el email a posteriori. Estoy 100% segura. En esta cuenta cambiava el teléfono y el correo pero el nombre, apellidos dirección. Todo era absolutamente igual.
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Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
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Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Nakon pregleda žalbe sofiagarcia21 , utvrđeno je da je ona uspela da kreira drugi nalog kod nas koristeći posebnu adresu e-pošte. Želeli bismo da pojasnimo da je odgovornost igrača da ne otvara drugi nalog.
Kako je sama igračica potvrdila, kreirala je poseban nalog koristeći drugu imejl adresu. Stoga je novi nalog smatran duplikatom naloga i nalog je zatvoren.
Poslali smo vam imejl sa priloženim dokazima na pregled.
Pored toga, želimo da vam skrenemo pažnju na sledeće aspekte Opštih uslova i odredbi, koje je sofiagarcia21 potvrdila prilikom kreiranja naloga na našoj veb stranici:
3.2: - Vaš nalog na Veb-sajtu mora biti registrovan na vaše, tačno ime. Dozvoljen je samo jedan nalog po osobi, po domaćinstvu/adresi, po broju telefona/e-pošti i po IP adresi. Svi drugi nalozi koji se otvore na Veb-sajtu smatraće se „Dupliranim nalozima". Ne smete pokušavati da otvorite Duplirani nalog, uključujući i davanje lažnih ili alternativnih akreditiva. Ako otvorite ili pokušate da otvorite bilo koji broj Dupliranih naloga, zadržavamo pravo da zatvorimo neke ili sve vaše naloge bez ikakve nadoknade i primenimo sledeće sankcije:
svaka radnja izvršena korišćenjem dupliranog naloga smatra se ništavnom;
sve promocije u kojima je duplirani nalog učestvovao biće otkazane;
Svi dobici ostvareni na dupliranom nalogu biće nevažeći. Sva obrađena isplate biće poništene i biće vraćene Kompaniji;
Duplirani nalog će biti zatvoren bez mogućnosti ponovnog otvaranja.
3.8: - Zahtev za samoisključenje: možete kontaktirati korisničku službu putem e-pošte: support@kingmaker.com, i mi ćemo vam pomoći da zatvorite svoj nalog.Štaviše, vaša je odgovornost da obavestite Kompaniju o svim drugim nalozima koje možda imate kod nas i da se uzdržite od otvaranja novih naloga.Kompanija neće biti odgovorna za potencijalne gubitke na drugim nalozima. Ne snosimo odgovornost za bilo kakve gubitke ili štete koje bi potencijalno mogle biti uzrokovane kockanjem.
4.1: - Otvaranjem naloga na našoj veb stranici i korišćenjem naše veb stranice garantujete da:
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postupate u svoje ime;
nemate zavisnost od kockanja, ne koristite Veb lokaciju pod uticajem alkohola, droga ili drugih supstanci;
u potpunosti razumete i prihvatate činjenicu da postoji mogućnost novčanog gubitka prilikom korišćenja naših usluga;
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9.4: - Ukoliko dođemo do osnovane sumnje da ste se upustili u prevaru, bilo koju nezakonitu ili nepravilnu aktivnostili da ste na drugi način prekršili Uslove korišćenja, zadržavamo pravo da preduzmemo bilo koji od sledećih koraka, po sopstvenom i apsolutnom nahođenju, sa ili bez prethodne najave:
odmah blokirati vaš nalog i obustaviti vaš pristup veb-sajtu i/ili njegovim uslugama, obustaviti sve zahteve za povlačenje sredstava i druge isplate vama tokom perioda istrage;
trajno zatvoriti vaš nalog na Veb-sajtu i svim drugim partnerskim veb-sajtovima na našoj platformi i zabraniti svako buduće korišćenje Veb-sajta i partnerskih veb-sajtova;
poništiti sve osvojene dobitke, otkazati sva čekajuća povlačenja i konfiskovati stanje pravog novca na vašem računu;
poništiti bilo koji bonus saldo na vašem nalogu i/ili ograničiti vaše buduće učešće u našim bonus i promotivnim ponudama ili vam ih uskratiti;
6.6.2:- Povraćaj novca nije moguć nakon što je predmetni depozit (ili povezani bonus) iskorišćen za postavljanje opklade.
Shodno tome, u skladu sa prethodno pomenutim člancima, želimo da ponovimo da povraćaj novca u ovom slučaju nije moguć.
Verujemo da će vam ove informacije pomoći da razjasnite situaciju.
Naš tim vam upućuje najlepše želje u vašim budućim poduhvatima.
Following a review of the sofiagarcia21 complaint that she was able to create another account with us using a separate email address. We would like to clarify that it is players responsibility not to open another account.
As the player herself confirmed she created a separate account using a different email address. Therefore, the new account has been considered as a duplicate account and the account was closed.
We have sent an email with attached evidences for your review.
Furthermore, we wish to bring to your attention to the following aspects of the General Terms and Conditions, which sofiagarcia21 had acknowledged upon the creation of the account on our website:
3.2 :- Your account with the Website must be registered in your own, correct, name. Only one account per person, per household/address, per phone number/email, and per IP address is allowed. Any other accounts that are opened on the Website will be considered as "Duplicate Accounts". You must not attempt to open a Duplicate Account, including by providing false or alternative credentials. If you open or attempt to open any number of Duplicate Accounts, we reserve the right to close some or all of your accounts without any compensation and apply the following sanctions:
each action performed using a Duplicate Account is considered void;
any promotions that the Duplicate Account has participated in will be cancelled;
any winnings obtained on the Duplicate Account will be void. Any processed withdrawals will be reversed and will be owed back to the Company;
the Duplicate Account will be closed without an option to reopen it.
3.8 :- Self-exclusion request: you can contact the customer service via e-mail: support@kingmaker.com, and we will assist you in closing your account. Furthermore, it is your responsibility to notify the Company of any other accounts you may have with us, and to refrain from opening any new accounts. The Company shall not be liable for potential losses on other accounts. We are not liable for any losses or damages which could be potentially caused by gambling.
4.1 :- By opening an account on our Website and by using our Website you warrant that:
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you are acting on your own behalf;
you do not have a gambling addiction, you don’t use the Website under the influence of alcohol, drugs or other substances;
you fully understand and accept the fact that there is a possibility of monetary loss while using our services;
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9.4 : - Should we arrive at a reasonable suspicion that you have engaged in a fraud, any illegal or improper activity, or have otherwise breached the Terms, we reserve the right to take any number of the following action, at our sole and absolute discretion, with or without notice:
immediately block your account and suspend your access to the Website and/or its services, suspend all pending withdrawal requests and other payments to you for the period of investigation;
permanently close your account with the Website and all other partner websites on our platform and deny any future use of the Website and the partner websites;
void any winnings obtained, cancel any pending withdrawals and confiscate the real money balance of your account;
void any bonus balance on your account and/or limit your future participation in our bonus and promotional offers or deny them to you;
6.6.2 :- No refund can be performed after the deposit in question (or the associated bonus) has been used to place a bet.
Consequently, in accordance with the previously mentioned articles, we would like to reiterate that a refund is not available in this case.
We trust that this information will assist in clarifying the matter for you.
Our team extends its best wishes for your future endeavors.
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Dragi kazino Kingmejker,
Hvala vam na odgovoru. Bilo bi mi drago ako biste mogli da razjasnite da li su igrači obavezni da dostave svoje lične podatke pre nego što uplate depozit ili imaju mogućnost da uplate depozit bez prethodnog popunjavanja ovih podataka.
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Thank you for the reply. I would appreciate it if you could clarify whether players are required to provide their personal information before making a deposit, or if they have the option to deposit without completing this information first.
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Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Mislim da je pristup ovom slučaju pogrešan. Ne radi se samo o dupliranom nalogu.
Zatražio/la sam zatvaranje mog naloga zbog zavisnosti od kockanja putem ćaskanja uživo i imam dokaz za to. Uprkos ovom zahtevu, nalog nije blokiran.
U stvari, ponovo sam kontaktirao podršku putem ćaskanja jer je još uvek bio aktivan, a sam agent je potvrdio da sam već nekoliko dana ranije zatražio njegovo zatvaranje. Uprkos tome, nisu primenjena nikakva trenutna ograničenja.
Ovo mi je omogućilo da nastavim sa pristupom, uplaćivanjem i igrom, iako sam jasno tražio da budem blokiran.
Štaviše, poslao sam i imejl kako je naloženo, tako da sam ispunio sve korake koje su mi tražili.
S druge strane, kazino je imao moje lične podatke. To se lako može proveriti, jer dobijam promotivne SMS poruke. Stoga je moj profil identifikovan.
Takođe sam koristio isti način plaćanja, što potvrđuje činjenicu da su mogli da otkriju da je u pitanju ista osoba.
Zbog svih ovih razloga, verujem da je glavni problem to što kazino nije reagovao nakon jasnog zahteva za samoisključenje, dozvoljavajući mi da nastavim da igram.
Želeo bih da se ova tačka uzme u obzir prilikom procene slučaja.
Thank you for your response.
I think the approach to this case is incorrect. It's not just about a duplicate account.
I requested the closure of my account due to gambling addiction via live chat, and I have proof of this. Despite this request, the account was not blocked.
In fact, I contacted the chat support again because it was still active, and the agent himself confirmed that I had already requested its closure days earlier. Even so, no immediate restrictions were applied.
This allowed me to continue accessing, depositing, and playing, even though I had clearly requested to be blocked.
Furthermore, I also sent the email as instructed, so I fulfilled all the steps they asked me to take.
On the other hand, the casino did have my personal data. This can be easily verified, as I'm receiving promotional SMS messages. Therefore, my profile was identified.
I also used the same payment method, which reinforces the fact that they could detect that it was the same person.
For all these reasons, I believe the main problem is that the casino did not act after a clear self-exclusion request, allowing me to continue playing.
I would like this point to be taken into account when evaluating the case.
Gracias por la respuesta.
Creo que el enfoque del caso no es correcto. No se trata solo de una cuenta duplicada.
Yo solicité el cierre de mi cuenta por adicción al juego a través del chat en vivo, y tengo pruebas de ello. Después de esa solicitud, la cuenta no fue bloqueada.
De hecho, volví a contactar con el chat porque seguía activa, y el propio agente confirmó que ya había solicitado el cierre días antes. Aun así, no se aplicó ninguna restricción inmediata.
Esto hizo que pudiera seguir accediendo, depositando y jugando, cuando ya había pedido claramente que me bloquearan.
Además, también envié el correo electrónico tal y como me indicaron, por lo que cumplí con todos los pasos que me pidieron.
Por otro lado, el casino sí tenía mis datos personales. Esto se puede comprobar fácilmente, ya que estoy recibiendo mensajes SMS promocionales. Por tanto, mi perfil estaba identificado.
También he utilizado el mismo método de pago, lo que refuerza que podían detectar que era la misma persona.
Por todo esto, considero que el problema principal es que el casino no actuó tras una solicitud clara de autoexclusión, permitiendo que siguiera jugando.
Me gustaría que este punto se tenga en cuenta al evaluar el caso.
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Draga sofiagarcia21,
Pomenuli ste da ste koristili drugu imejl adresu i broj telefona za drugi nalog. Da li je ovo vaš lični i radni broj telefona?
Dear sofiagarcia21,
You mentioned that you used a different email and phone number for the second account. Is this your own personal and working phone number?
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Zdravo, da, tačno. Imejl je praktično identičan, samo sa jednim brojem.
Hi, yes, that's correct. The email is practically identical, just with one number.
Hola, si, correcto. El correo es prácticamente idéntico cambiando un número
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Takođe želim da razjasnim da sam zatražio samoisključenje putem ćaskanja i da ni oni nisu shvatili da je nalog dupliran.
I also want to clarify that I requested self-exclusion through the chat and they didn't realize that the account was duplicated either.
Quiero aclarar ademas que les solicité la autoexclusión a través del chat y tampoco se dieron cuenta de que la cuenta estaba duplicada.
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