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The player from Spain requested a refund of €429.73 after depositing €100, but after several days, he received incorrect information suggesting his account was restricted. Despite filling out a form to have his account reopened, he continued to receive the same response, which only offered to refund the deposited amount. The issue was resolved after the casino acknowledged a mistake in categorizing geographical regions, confirming that Spanish players were eligible to play and withdraw funds. The player's account was reopened, and he successfully received his winnings, leading to the complaint being marked as resolved.
Igrač iz Španije je zatražio povraćaj novca od 429,73 evra nakon što je uplatio 100 evra, ali je nakon nekoliko dana dobio netačne informacije koje sugerišu da je njegov nalog ograničen. Uprkos popunjavanju obrasca za ponovno otvaranje naloga, nastavio je da dobija isti odgovor, u kojem je ponuđeno samo vraćanje uplaćenog iznosa. Problem je rešen nakon što je kazino priznao grešku u kategorizaciji geografskih regiona, potvrđujući da španski igrači ispunjavaju uslove za igru i povlačenje sredstava. Nalog igrača je ponovo otvoren i on je uspešno primio svoj dobitak, što je dovelo do toga da je žalba označena kao rešena.
Zahtevam povraćaj od 429,73 evra nakon što sam prethodno položio 100 evra. Nakon nekoliko dana čekanja da se uplata obradi, primio sam e-poštu u kojoj se navodi sledeće: (sshot-1.png)
Očigledno, to je netačno, pošto dozvoljavaju španskim korisnicima (kao što ste naveli). Popunjavam obrazac da bi se moj nalog ponovo otvorio, ukazujući da je to mora da je bila greška, a oni mi ponovo daju potpuno isti odgovor (sshot-2.png).
Ponovo mi šalju istu poruku...sa naznakom da će mi poslati samo uplaćeni iznos (100€).
Radujem se vašoj pomoći 🙂
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I'm requesting a refund of €429.73 after having previously deposited €100. After several days of waiting for the payment to be processed, I received an email stating the following: (sshot-1.png)
Obviously, that's false, since they allow Spanish users (as you indicate). I fill out the form to have my account reopened, indicating that it must have been a mistake, and they give me the exact same response again (sshot-2.png).
They send me the same message again...indicating that they will only send me the amount deposited (€100).
I look forward to your help 🙂
All the best.
Solicito un reintegro de 429.73€ tras haber ingresado después de registrarme la cantidad de 100€. Después de varios días esperando que se procese el pago, me envían un correo diciendo lo siguiente:(sshot-1.png)
Evidentemente eso es falso, ya que permiten usuarios españoles (ustedes mismos así lo indican). Hago el formulario para que me reabran la cuenta indicando que ha debido ser un error y me vuelven a responder exactamente lo mismo (sshot-2.png)
Vuelven a enviarme el mismo mensaje...indicando que solo me enviaran la cantidad depositada (100€).
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog vašeg problema. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih mogao u potpunosti da razumem celu situaciju.
Možete li mi, molim vas, reći koju ste zemlju izabrali tokom procesa registracije?
Da li ste ranije uspešno povlačeli novac?
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da ste prošli KYC verifikaciju?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Možete li, molim vas, podeliti svoju komunikaciju sa kazinom? Pošaljite imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju imejl adresu dominika.l@casino.guru , ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Dominika
Dear plmontoro45,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Could you please let me know which country you selected during the registration process?
Have you made any successful withdrawals before?
Could you please confirm that you have passed the KYC verification?
Did you accumulate your winnings with or without an active bonus?
Could you please share your communication with the casino? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at dominika.l@casino.guru, or post screenshots here.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Možete li mi reći koju ste zemlju odabrali tokom procesa registracije? Spain
Da li ste ranije izvršili uspešna povlačenja? br
Možete li da potvrdite da ste prošli KIC verifikaciju? Da, podneo sam sve traženo tokom verifikacije. Nalog je verifikovan.
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa? Nikada nisam dobio nikakve bonuse; Uvek sam odbijao one koje su mi ponuđene.
Možete li da podelite svoju komunikaciju sa kazinom? Šalji mi e-poštu ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju adresu e-pošte. , ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde.
Prva komunikacija u kojoj mi kažu razlog zašto se uplata otkazuje.
Odgovaram na njihov mejl, govoreći im da razumem da je to greška, pošto dozvoljavaju španskim igračima.
Ponovo mi odgovaraju, očigledno sa unapred definisanim odgovorom, ali bez daljeg objašnjenja.
To je sve. Hvala vam puno na pomoći!
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Hello Dominika,
I answer your questions:
Could you tell me which country you selected during the registration process? Spain
Have you made any successful withdrawals before? No
Could you confirm that you've passed the KYC verification? Yes, I submitted everything requested during verification. The account was verified.
Did you accumulate your winnings with or without an active bonus? I never received any bonuses; I always rejected the ones offered to me.
Could you share your communication with the casino? Send me emails or chat transcripts to my email address. , or post screenshots here.
First communication where they tell me the reason why the payment is being cancelled.
I'm replying to their email, telling them that I understand it's a mistake, since they allow Spanish players.
They respond to me again, apparently with a predefined answer, but without giving any further explanation.
That's all. Thank you very much for your help!
All the best.
Hola Dominika,
Respondo a tus preguntas:
¿Podrías decirme qué país seleccionaste durante el proceso de registro? España
¿Has realizado algún retiro exitoso anteriormente? No
¿Podrías confirmar que has pasado la verificación KYC? Sí, envié todo lo que me pidieron en la verificación. La cuenta estaba verificada.
¿Acumulaste tus ganancias con o sin bono activo? En ningún momento obtuve ningún bono, los que me ofrecieron siempre los rechazaba.
¿Podrías compartir tu comunicación con el casino? Envíame correos electrónicos o transcripciones de chat a mi correo electrónico. dominika.l@casino.guru , o publique capturas de pantalla aquí.
Primera comunicación donde me indican el motivo por el que se cancela el pago.
Les respondo al correo diciendoles que entiendo que es un error, ya que ellos permiten jugadores españoles.
Me vuelven a responder, parece que con una respuesta predefinida, pero sin dar mas explicaciones.
Uplatio/la sam depozit debitnom karticom i zatražio/la sam isplatu bankovnim transferom.
Nisam ih ponovo kontaktirao jer su oba puta kada sam to uradio, odgovorili na isti način, zato sam i kontaktirao vas.
U prvom imejlu su mi rekli da ih kontaktiram kako bismo obradili isplatu početnog iznosa depozita (ne dobitka), ali ne želim da ih ponovo kontaktiram dok se žalba ne završi kako ne bih ometao vaše posredovanje.
Sve najbolje.
Hello Dominika,
I made a deposit by debit card and requested a withdrawal by bank transfer.
I haven't contacted them again because both times I did, they responded the same way, so that's why I contacted you.
In the first email, they told me to contact them to process the payment of the initial deposit amount (not the winnings), but I don't want to contact them again until the complaint is closed so as not to interfere with your mediation.
All the best.
Hola Dominika,
Hice ingreso por Tarjeta de débito y solicité retiro por transferencia bancaria.
No he vuelto a contactar con ellos porque en las dos ocasiones que lo hice me respondían lo mismo, así que por ello contacté con ustedes.
En el primer correo me dijeron que me pusiera en contacto con ellos para procesar el pago de la cantidad inicial de ingreso (no las ganancias), pero hasta que no esté cerrada la queja no quiero contactar de nuevo para no interferir en vuestra mediación.
Hvala vam puno, plmontoro45, što ste mi pružili potrebne informacije. Sada ću vašu žalbu proslediti kolegi Mihalu ( michal.k@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, plmontoro45, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Ja sam Mihal i preuzeo sam vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam ovaj slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da vidim da li mogu da pomognem.
Želeli bismo da pozovemo LollyBet kazino da se pridruži razgovoru.
Dragi kazino LollyBet,
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti zašto ste dozvolili igraču da uplaćuje depozit i igra iz zemlje pod ograničenjima, a sada to koristite protiv njega? Ovo nije u skladu sa fer praksom koju očekujemo od kazina. Ako dozvolite igračima iz zemalja pod ograničenjima da uplaćuju depozit i igraju, trebalo bi da im isplatite i dobitke. Nepoštovanje toga dovodi do nepravednog scenarija u kojem ovi igrači mogu samo da pretrpe gubitke, što ne možemo smatrati fer.
Dozvoljeno mi je da pristupim vašem sajtu sa španske IP adrese bez ikakvih problema, a španski prefiks je čak bio ponuđen podrazumevano za primarni broj telefona:
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti zašto ne implementirate nikakvo blokiranje IP adresa i zašto niste uklonili Španiju iz formulara za registraciju, što bi trebalo da bude standardna praksa?
Važno je osigurati da, ako igračima iz zemalja sa ograničenim pristupom bude dozvoljeno da uplaćuju depozite i učestvuju u igrama, oni takođe treba da imaju pravo da prime svoje dobitke, pod uslovom da su ti dobici ostvareni u skladu sa standardnim propisima. Ako postoje neki drugi faktori koji utiču na situaciju i ne mogu se javno deliti, slobodno ih podelite direktno sa mnom na michal.k@casino.guru
Radujem se tvom objašnjenju.
Hello plmontoro45,
I'm Michal, and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed this case, and I will contact the casino to see if I can help.
We would like to invite LollyBet Casino to join the conversation.
Dear LollyBet Casino,
Can you please explain why you allowed the player to deposit and play from a restricted country, and now you are using this against them? This is not in line with the fair practices we expect from casinos. If you allow players from restricted countries to deposit and play, you should pay out their winnings as well. Failing to do so leads to an unfair scenario where these players can only incur losses, which we cannot consider fair.
I was allowed to access your site from a Spanish IP without any problems, and the Spanish prefix was even offered by default for the primary phone number:
Can you please explain why you are not implementing any IP block and why you have not removed Spain from the signup form, which should be a standard practice?
It is important to ensure that if players from restricted countries are permitted to deposit and participate in games, they should also be eligible to receive their winnings, provided that these winnings have been accrued in accordance with the standard regulations. If there are any other factors that influence the situation and cannot be shared publicly, please feel free to share them with me directly at michal.k@casino.guru
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Želimo da vas obavestimo da je igračev nalog privremeno zatvoren kao deo masovnog procesa zatvaranja vezanog za dva jurisdikcijska ograničenja kojima Španija ne podleže.
Segmentacija igrača je pogrešno kategorisana pod pogrešnim geografskim regionom. Kao rezultat toga, igraču je poslat automatski odgovor u vezi sa jurisdikcijskim ograničenjima.
Izvinjavamo se zbog eventualnih neprijatnosti. Nakon temeljne istrage, problem je sada rešen. Španski igrači imaju puno pravo da igraju i korisnik može da nastavi sa uplatom i isplatom sredstava bez ikakvih problema.
Igrački račun je sada otvoren, verifikovan i igrač može da nastavi sa isplatama kao i obično.
We would like to inform you that the player's account was temporarily closed as part of a mass closure process related to two jurisdictional restrictions that Spain is not subject to.
The player's segmentation was incorrectly categorized under the wrong geographical region. As a result, an automated reply regarding jurisdictional restrictions was sent to the player.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused. Following a thorough investigation, the issue has now been resolved. Spanish players are fully eligible to play, and the user can continue to deposit and withdraw funds without any issues.
The player's account is now open, verified, and the player may proceed with withdrawals as usual.
Hvala na pojašnjenju. Drago mi je da je nesporazum ispravljen.
Dragi plmontoro45,
Prema odgovoru kazino tima, došlo je do greške prilikom kategorizacije geografskih regiona. Ovo je ispravljeno i sada možete u potpunosti koristiti svoj kazino nalog, uključujući i isplate. Molim vas da ovo potvrdite i obavestite me da li mogu smatrati vašu žalbu rešenom ili vam je potrebna pomoć u vezi sa bilo čim drugim.
Dear LollyBet Casino,
Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad the misunderstanding has been corrected.
Dear plmontoro45,
As per the casino team's response, there was a mistake while categorising geographical regions. This was corrected, and you can fully utilise your casino account, including withdrawals. Please confirm this and let me know if I can consider your complaint resolved or if you need assistance with anything else.
Nakon dalje verifikacije od strane kazina, poslao sam im sve što su tražili i sada je plaćeno, tako da možemo da zatvorimo problem kao rešen.
Hvala vam puno!
Hello Michal,
After further verification by the casino, I sent them everything they requested and have now been paid, so we can close the issue as resolved.
Thank you so much!
Hola Michal,
Después de una verificación adicional por parte del casino, le envié todo lo que me pidieron y ya me han pagado, por lo que podemos cerrar la incidencia como resuelta.
Hvala vam na potvrdi. Drago mi je da je naše učešće odigralo ulogu u rešavanju situacije.
Označićemo žalbu kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Želeli bismo da se zahvalimo obema stranama na saradnji. Ako ikada u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi. Tu smo da vam pomognemo.
Kao što znate, ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti prihvatamo bakšiš. Međutim, bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak da podelite svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na TrustpilotRate Casino Guru . Iskrena recenzija, zajedno sa svim predlozima za poboljšanje, bila bi neprocenjiva. Vaše povratne informacije bi mogle pomoći drugima koji razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju za pomoć u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
Unapred vam hvala na vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Mihal
Kazino Guru
Dear plmontoro45,
Thank you for your confirmation. I am glad that our involvement played a role in resolving the situation.
We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We would like to thank both parties for their cooperation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Centre. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot Rate Casino Guru. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Best regards,
Michal
Casino Guru
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