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Dragi Dragane1989 , nakon što sam pročitao sve snimke ekrana koje si mi poslao i uporedio ih sa dokazima koje je pružio kazino, čini mi se da nemam ništa više što mogu da posredujem. Dozvolite mi da objasnim:
- Zahtevi za zatvaranje naloga
Iako ste više puta zahtevali zatvaranje naloga, razlog nikada nije jasno naveden. Stoga se svi takvi zahtevi smatraju „redovnim", što znači da vi – kao igrač – niste imali zavisnost od kockanja. Nastavljajući ovu logiku – ako niste zavisni, to znači da možete jednostavno prestati da uplaćujete depozite i igrate u kazinu, odjaviti se sa marketinških komunikacija ili u najgorem slučaju – blokirati imejl domene i brojeve telefona koji vam šalju promotivne ponude. Ako nastavite da uplaćujete depozite i igrate, pretpostavlja se da to radite svojom voljom. To je isto kao da ste imali loše iskustvo u restoranu i prestali da idete tamo na obroke. Zbog toga se svi redovni zahtevi za zatvaranje naloga ne smatraju validnim dokazom u vezi sa vašim slučajem.
- Samoisključenje zbog zavisnosti od kockanja
Prema dokazima kazina, prvi put ste pomenuli zavisnost od kockanja 4. novembra. Međutim, ovaj zahtev ste sami otkazali istog dana, kada ste u ćaskanju uživo rekli da niste zavisni i zatražili bonus u zamenu za očuvanje otvorenog naloga. Vaši sledeći zahtevi za samoisključenje poslati su 21. i 24. novembra. Uprkos tome, kazino je odlučio da vaš početni zahtev podnet 4. novembra prihvati kao onaj koji je trebalo da bude obrađen, što je pohvalno sa njihove strane. Stoga (uzimajući u obzir vreme potrebno za obradu takvog zahteva), iznos povraćaja koji bih predložio kazinu jeste sva uplata izvršena između trenutka kada je nalog trebalo da bude zatvoren do stvarnog zatvaranja naloga, umanjen za isplate izvršene u tom periodu.
Poslali ste mi snimak ekrana poruke koju vam je kazino poslao u vezi sa povraćajem novca. U njoj je jasno naveden iznos vaših depozita i isplata izvršenih u gore navedenom vremenskom periodu, a tražili su i vaše podatke o plaćanju radi obrade. Pošto ste potvrdili prijem novca, to znači da umesto da osporite iznos, pristali ste na iznos povraćaja i odgovorili sa bankovnim podacima.
Vaš nalog bi sada trebalo da bude zatvoren, a marketinška komunikacija bi trebalo da prestane. Osim ako me ne obavestite da ovo nije istina ili da primam neželjenu marketinšku komunikaciju od drugih kazina u ovoj grupi, deo medijacije koji se odnosi na samoisključivanje je završen.
Ako imate dokaz da ste uplatili mnogo više novca između zahteva za samoisključenje i zatvaranja naloga, mogu razgovarati sa predstavnikom kazina i zatražiti vašu blagajničku istoriju radi procene. Međutim, kazino neće biti primoran da se obaveže, jer ste već pristali na iznos povraćaja koji su oni prethodno predložili, tako da ne mogu garantovati drugačiji ishod.
Sve u svemu, čini se da je ovaj slučaj došao do tačke u kojoj je sve što je preostalo da se završi. Držaću ga otvorenim do kraja nedelje, kako bih vam dao priliku da postavite pitanja u slučaju da nisam nešto dobro objasnio ili ako imate još nekih pitanja protiv MoonWin kazina. Hvala vam na razumevanju.
First, I would like to thank the MoonWin.com Casino for providing additional details regarding this case.
Dear Dragan1989, after reading through all the screenshots you have sent me, and comparing them with the evidence provided by the casino, it seems like there is nothing more I can mediate. Let me explain:
- Your account closure requests
Although you have requested the account closure numerous times, the reason is never clearly stated. Therefore, all such requests are considered as "regular", which means you - as a player - had no gambling addiction. Continuing this logic - if you are not addicted, it means you could simply stop depositing and playing at the casino, unsubscribe from marketing communication or in the worst case - block the e-mail domains and phone numbers sending you promotional offers. If you do continue deposit and play, it is assumed you do this of your own, free will. It's the same as if you had a bad experience in a restaurant and stopped going there for your meals. Due to this, all the regular account closure requests are not considered as valid evidence regarding your case.
- Self-exclusion due to gambling addiction
As per the casino's evidence, the first time you had mentioned having gambling addiction was on 4th November. However, this request has been cancelled by yourself on the same day, when you told the live chat you are not addicted, and requested a bonus in exchange for keeping the account open. Your next self-exclusion requests were sent on 21st and 24th November. Despite this, the casino decided to take your initial request made on 4th November as the one that should have been actioned, which is commendable on their part. As such (taking into consideration the time it takes to process such request), the refund value I would propose to the casino is all the deposits made between the time the account should have been closed until the actual account closure, minus an withdrawals made in this time.
You have sent me a screenshot of the message the casino has sent you regarding the refund. It clearly stated the sum of your deposits and withdrawals made in the aforementioned time period, and they requested your payment details for processing. Since you confirmed reception of the money, it means instead of challenging the sum, you have agreed to the refund amount and responded with the banking details.
Your account should now be closed and marketing communication should cease. Unless you make me aware of this not being the truth, or receiving unwanted marketing communication from other casinos in this group, the self-exclusion part of the mediation is over.
If you have a proof that you have deposited way more money between the self-exclusion request and the account closure, I can speak with the casino representative and request your cashier history for evaluation. However, the casino will not be forced to oblige, as you have already agreed to the refund amount proposed by them previously, so I can't guarantee a different outcome.
Overall, this case seems to be at the point where all that's left to do is to close it. I will keep it open until the end of the week, to give you a chance to ask questions in case I did not explain something properly, or if you have any more issues to raise against the MoonWin Casino. Thank you for your understanding.
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