Zdravo Veronika,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Kada sam 2020. godine poslao masovni imejl nekoliko kazina, već sam zatražio trajno/neodređeno samoisključenje od Mr Green-a putem njihovog sopstvenog alata za odgovorno kockanje.
Koliko se sećam, njihov alat je nudio različite periode samoisključivanja, kao što su nekoliko meseci, šest meseci, jedna godina i neodređeno/trajno. Ja sam izabrao opciju neodređeno/trajno. Njihovi uslovi takođe navode da ako se izabere neodređeno isključenje, nalog se može ponovo otvoriti tek nakon najmanje godinu dana i samo na zahtev samog klijenta.
Nikada nisam tražio od gospodina Grina da mi ponovo otvori nalog. Naprotiv, kasnije sam poslao te imejlove sa zahtevom za zatvaranje/samoisključenje naloga zbog problema sa kockanjem.
Nažalost, više nemam sačuvan odgovor gospodina Grina putem imejla.
Ono što me najviše brine jeste to što je gospodin Grin dao suprotstavljena objašnjenja. U razgovoru, prvo nisu uopšte pomenuli trajanje mog samoisključenja. U početku su tvrdili da nikada nisam imao nalog kod njih. Nakon što sam im poslao dokaz, iznenada su pronašli nalog, ali su tvrdili da na njemu nema samoisključenja. Kada sam rekao da definitivno postoji samoisključenje, oni su onda priznali da jeste, ali su me pitali koliko dugo traje.
Objasnio sam da je trajno/neodređeno. Postavio sam potpuno istu vrstu isključenja na nekoliko drugih kazina istovremeno i uvek sam birao trajno/neodređeno gde je ta opcija bila dostupna. Gospodin Grin je potom ponovo promenio objašnjenje i tvrdio da je isključenje trajalo samo godinu dana i da je nalog kasnije potpuno zatvoren kada se promenila njihova veb stranica/platforma.
Po mom mišljenju, oni stalno menjaju svoju priču kako bi izbegli odgovornost.
Ne sećam se da sam završio kompletan KYC proces na originalnom nalogu, jer ne verujem da je to traženo u to vreme. Međutim, moji lični podaci su bili isti: ime, adresa, adresa e-pošte, broj telefona i drugi identifikacioni podaci.
Napravio/la sam novi nalog pre dva dana. Ne verujem da sam dostavio/la lična dokumenta za novi nalog pre nego što sam mogao/la da uplatim i igram.
Takođe bih želeo da istaknem da, prema principima zaštite igrača MGA, operater ne bi trebalo jednostavno da dozvoli igraču koji je prethodno samoisključen da odmah ponovo dobije pristup, posebno tamo gde je prvobitno isključenje bilo neodređeno/trajno i povezano sa problemima sa kockanjem. Poništenje ili smanjenje neodređenog samoisključenja trebalo bi da zahteva zahtev igrača i obavezan period hlađenja pre nego što se pristup vrati. U ovom slučaju, nikada nisam tražio ponovno otvaranje mog isključenog naloga. Umesto toga, mogao sam da kreiram novi nalog, uplatim 560 evra i kockam se.
Zato verujem da gospodin Grin nije pravilno sproveo moje samoisključenje i da nije ispunio svoje obaveze odgovornog kockanja.
Hello Veronika,
Thank you for your reply.
When I sent the bulk email to several casinos in 2020, I had already requested a permanent/indefinite self-exclusion from Mr Green through their own responsible gambling tool.
As far as I remember, their tool offered different self-exclusion periods, such as a few months, six months, one year, and indefinite/permanent. I chose the indefinite/permanent option. Their own terms also state that if an indefinite exclusion is chosen, the account may only be reopened after at least one year and only upon the customer’s own request.
I never asked Mr Green to reopen my account. On the contrary, I later sent those emails requesting account closure/self-exclusion due to gambling problems.
Unfortunately, I no longer have Mr Green’s email response saved.
What concerns me most is that Mr Green has given conflicting explanations. In the chat, they first did not mention the duration of my self-exclusion at all. At first, they claimed that I had never had an account with them. After I sent them proof, they suddenly found the account, but claimed there was no self-exclusion on it. When I said that there definitely was a self-exclusion, they then admitted that there had been one, but asked me how long it was for.
I explained that it was permanent/indefinite. I had placed the exact same type of exclusion on several other casinos at the same time, and I always selected permanent/indefinite where that option was available. Mr Green then changed their explanation again and claimed that the exclusion had only been for one year, and that the account had later been completely closed when their website/platform changed.
In my view, they are changing their story repeatedly in order to avoid responsibility.
I do not remember completing a full KYC process on the original account, as I do not believe it was requested at the time. However, my personal details were the same: name, address, email address, phone number and other identifying information.
I created the new account two days ago. I do not believe I submitted identity documents for the new account before I was able to deposit and play.
I would also like to point out that, under MGA player protection principles, an operator should not simply allow a previously self-excluded player to regain access immediately, especially where the original exclusion was indefinite/permanent and related to gambling problems. A revocation or decrease of an indefinite self-exclusion should require a request from the player and a mandatory cooling-off period before access is restored. In this case, I never requested the reopening of my excluded account. Instead, I was able to create a new account, deposit €560, and gamble.
This is why I believe Mr Green failed to properly enforce my self-exclusion and failed in their responsible gambling obligations.
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