Tako da sam malopre otvorio nalog i nakon što sam mnogo puta uplatio novac, postao sam VIP član.
Kada sam se prijavio, uneo sam svoje lične podatke, uključujući svoju zemlju, a to je Holandija. Sve je bilo u redu, a sa depozitima je bilo moguće da koristim samo holandske metode plaćanja (holandski direktni bankovni transfer).
Prošle nedelje sam bio radoznao i počeo sam da čitam uslove i odredbe Palm kazina. Na moje iznenađenje, pročitao sam o članu 3.4. U tom članku stoji da nije dozvoljeno igrati ako sam iz Holandije. Kako je moguće da otvorim nalog i uplatim novac na njega više puta (sa holandskim načinom plaćanja), a da mi nije dozvoljeno da igram u ovom kazinu. Imao sam kontakt sa mnogim ljudima iz ovog kazina i niko mi nikada nije rekao da mi nije dozvoljeno da igram u Palmu, iako su sigurno videli moju zemlju kada su proveravali moje podatke. Čak imaju i svoju veb stranicu na holandskom jeziku, što je još čudnije što ne dozvoljavaju holandske igrače.
Poslao sam e-mail podršci sa istom porukom kao što je ovde opisano i oni su odgovorili sa:
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Poštovani .... ,
Hvala vam na e-poruci i detaljnom razjašnjenju vašeg problema.
Proučio sam vaš slučaj i želeo bih da se pozabavim vašim zahtevom.
-Nigde na našem sajtu ne savetujemo da prihvatamo holandske igrače. Oglašavamo se igračima sa Holandskih Antila. Igrači iz Holandije su zabranjeni našim Uslovima i odredbama.
-Takođe možemo primetiti da ste se registrovali preko pridruženog sajta i da ste sami uspeli da pronađete naš sajt, što je samo vaša odgovornost.
Naši pridruženi partneri deluju nezavisno od nas i ono što oglašavaju nije pod našom kontrolom.
Međutim, pobrinuo sam se da trajno zatvorim vaš nalog i stavim na crnu listu vašu adresu e-pošte, kao i bankarski metod koji se koristi za uplatu da bih izbegla dalja neslaganja.
Takođe, vaš broj je izbrisan iz sistema i nećete dobijati promotivni SMS, da biste se odjavili sa promotivnih mejlova, kliknite na dugme na dnu promotivne e-pošte.
Želim vam uspešnu nedelju i sve najbolje u budućnosti.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kevin
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Odgovorio sam na taj e-mail sa sledećom porukom:
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Dragi Kevine,
Iako su okolnosti kako sam postao član nebitne, primetio sam da uprkos vašoj politici koja zabranjuje holandskim državljanima da učestvuju, vaša platforma dozvoljava registraciju pojedincima holandskog porekla. Štaviše, primećujem postojanje veb stranice na holandskom jeziku, što se čini neskladnim sa gore pomenutim ograničenjem.
Moja primarna briga se odnosi na pravednost situacije. Ako zaista ne ispunjavam uslove za povlačenje sredstava zbog svoje nacionalnosti, smatram da je nepravedno da moji depoziti ostanu u vašem sistemu bez mogućnosti nadoknade. Zbog toga, s poštovanjem, tražim da Palm Casino poništi sve depozite uplaćene na moj račun i omogući vraćanje ukupnog iznosa na moj Revolut bankovni račun što je pre moguće.
Očekujem brzo rešenje ovog pitanja i ljubazno tražim potvrdu započetih radnji. Vaša saradnja u rešavanju ovog problema bila bi veoma cenjena.
Hvala vam na pažnji prema ovom pitanju.
S poštovanjem,
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Od tada nikad nisam dobio nikakav odgovor i označili su moju kartu kao rešenu, a ova stvar očigledno nije rešena. Ako nikada nisam mogao da osvojim (čitaj: gotovinu) bilo koji novac iz ovog kazina, onda nikada ne bih mogao da uplatim. Zato želim sav novac koji sam položio nazad, jer su svi depoziti trebali biti poništeni ako nikada nisam mogao ništa da unovčim.
Ukupan iznos depozita ne znam (negde je između 2500€ i 3000€), jer više ne mogu da se prijavim, pošto su mi blokirali nalog. Imam sve transakcije na svom bankovnom računu, ali pošto sam igrao u nekom drugom kazinu, ne znam koje su transakcije tačno sa palm.casino-a, a koje iz drugih (svi koriste čudna imena kao što su Crveni gavran ili Naudapai Limited).
Možete li mi pomoći? Zaista cenim vaše vreme i unapred hvala što ste mi pomogli.
So I created an account a while ago and after depositing a lot of times, I became a VIP member.
When I signed up, I filled in my personal details, including my country, which is The Netherlands. Everything was fine and with the deposits it was also possible for me to use Dutch-only payment methods (Dutch direct bank transfer).
Last week I was curious and started to read the terms & conditions of Palm Casino. To my surprise, I read about article 3.4. That article states that it is not allowed to play if I am from the Netherlands. How is it possible for me to create an account and deposit money on it many times (with a Dutch payment method), while I am not allowed to play on this casino. I've had contact with many people of this casino and no one ever told me that I wasn't allowed to play at Palm, even though they must have seen my country when checking my details. They even have their website in Dutch language, which makes it even more strange that they don't allow Dutch players.
I've sent an e-mail to support with the same message as described in here and they replied with:
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Dear .... ,
Thank you for your email & the detailed clarification of your issue.
I've looked into your case and would like to address your claim.
-We do not advise anywhere on our site that we accept Dutch players. We advertise to players from the Dutch Antilles. Players from the Netherlands are prohibited by our T&Cs.
-We can also notice that you have registered through an affiliate site and that you have managed to find our site yourself, which is only your responsibility.
Our affiliate partners act independently from us and what they advertise is not under our control.
However, I've made sure to permanently close your account & blacklist your email address as well as the banking method used to deposit to avoid further discrepancies.
Also, your number has been deleted from the system and you will not receive promotional SMS, to unsubscribe from the promotional emails, please click the button at the bottom of the promotional email.
I wish you a great week & all the best for the future.
Best regards,
Kevin
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I replied to that e-mail with the following message:
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Dear Kevin,
While the circumstances of how I became a member are immaterial, it has come to my attention that despite your policy prohibiting Dutch nationals from participating, your platform permits registration from individuals of Dutch origin. Moreover, I note the existence of a Dutch-language website, which appears incongruous with the aforementioned restriction.
My primary concern pertains to the fairness of the situation. If indeed I am ineligible for withdrawals due to my nationality, I find it inequitable that my deposits remain within your system without the possibility of recompense. Therefore, I respectfully request that Palm Casino annul all deposits made to my account and facilitate the return of the total sum to my Revolut bank account at your earliest convenience.
I anticipate a prompt resolution to this matter and kindly request confirmation of the initiated actions. Your cooperation in rectifying this issue would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
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Since then, I've never got any reply back and they marked my ticket as solved, while this matter isn't solved obviously. If I were never able to win (read: cashout) any money from this casino, then I should've never been able to deposit. Therefore I want al the money I've deposited back, because the deposits should all have been voided if I were never able to cashout anything.
The total amount of deposits I do not know (it's somewhere between €2500 and €3000), because I can't login anymore, as they've blocked my account. I do have all the transactions in my banking account, but because I did play at some other casino's, I don't know which transactions exactly are from palm.casino and which are from other ones (they all use strange names like Red Raven or Naudapay Limited).
Can you please help me out? I really appreciate your time and thanks in advance for helping me out.
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