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The player from Germany had requested to have his account blocked due to gambling addiction on April 18th but received no response from SG Casino. Instead, he experienced an upgrade to VIP status, which led to significant losses. He demanded a full refund, citing violations of both the casino's terms and applicable German law, and expressed a willingness to resolve the matter out of court. The Complaints Team reviewed the evidence provided and concluded that without the ticket ID or original email from April 18th, it could not be proven that the request had been received by the casino. Ultimately, the complaint was rejected as the account had been closed following a self-exclusion request on July 26th, and no balance had been voided. The player was advised to pursue further action through the Anjouan Gaming Authority if needed, as German law did not apply to this case.
Igrač iz Nemačke je 18. aprila zatražio da mu se nalog blokira zbog zavisnosti od kockanja, ali nije dobio odgovor od SG Casino-a. Umesto toga, doživeo je nadogradnju na VIP status, što je dovelo do značajnih gubitaka. Zahtevao je potpuni povraćaj novca, navodeći kršenje uslova korišćenja kazina i važećeg nemačkog zakona, i izrazio je spremnost da stvar reši van suda. Tim za žalbe je pregledao dostavljene dokaze i zaključio da se bez identifikacionog broja karte ili originalne e-pošte od 18. aprila ne može dokazati da je kazino primio zahtev. Na kraju, žalba je odbijena jer je nalog zatvoren nakon zahteva za samoisključenje 26. jula i nijedan saldo nije poništen. Igraču je savetovano da po potrebi preduzme dalje mere preko Anjouan Gaming Authority, jer se nemački zakon nije primenjivao na ovaj slučaj.
Kontaktirao sam SG Casino 18. aprila sa informacijom da sam zavisan od kockanja i da bi moj nalog trebalo blokirati.
Uveče 18. aprila, kontaktirao sam nekoliko kazina (gde sam imao račune) da ih zatvorim.
Nije bilo nikakvog odgovora od SG Casino-a. Umesto toga, moj VIP nivo je nadograđen, i bio sam vučen sve dublje i dublje u ponor. Izgubio sam preko 10.500 evra u SG Casino-u samo između 19. aprila i 26. jula. Zahtevam potpuni povraćaj novca. SG Casino je ne samo prekršio sopstvene uslove korišćenja već i važeći nemački zakon.
U prilogu je moj imejl od 18. aprila – nisam dobio nikakav odgovor. Takođe sam pokušao da zatvorim nalog u maju i junu. Poslednji put je bilo u julu – nalog je ostao otvoren uprkos mojoj zavisnosti, i stalno me mame ponude za povraćaj novca da nastavim da igram. Nedavno, 26. jula, ponovo sam se informisao o svojoj zavisnosti i odmah sam dobio imejl sa ponudom od 100 evra povraćaja novca da nastavim da igram. Ponašanje SG Casino-a nije samo moralno sumnjivo. To je takođe jednostavno nezakonito. Moj advokat me je već obavestio da postoje veoma dobri izgledi za povraćaj novca na sudu. Međutim, želeo bih da dam SG Casino-u priliku da reši stvar van suda.
Hello,
I contacted SG Casino on April 18th with the information that I am addicted to gambling and that my account should be blocked.
On the evening of April 18, I contacted several casinos (where I had accounts) to have them closed.
There was no response at all from SG Casino. Instead, my VIP level was upgraded, and I was dragged deeper and deeper into the abyss. I lost over €10,500 at SG Casino between April 19 and July 26 alone. I demand a full refund. SG Casino has not only violated its own terms and conditions but also applicable German law.
Attached is my email from April 18th – I received no response at all. I also attempted to close the account in May and June. The last time was in July – the account remains open despite my addiction, and I'm constantly being lured by cashback offers to keep playing. Most recently, on July 26th, I informed myself again about my addiction and immediately received an email offering €100 cashback to keep playing. SG Casino's behavior isn't just morally questionable. It's also simply illegal. My lawyer has already informed me that there are very good prospects for reclaiming the money in court. However, I would like to give SG Casino the opportunity to resolve the matter out of court.
Hallo,
ich habe am 18.4 das SG Casino kontaktiert, mit der Info dass ich spielsüchtig bin und mein Konto gesperrt werden soll.
Ich habe am Abend des 18.4 mehrere Casinos kontaktiert (überall wo ich Konten hatte), damit diese geschlossen werden.
Vom SG Casino kam überhaupt keine Reaktion. Vielmehr wurde mein VIP Level Rank geupgraded und ich wurde immer tiefer "in den Abgrund" gezogen. Habe alleine vom 19.4 - 26.7 im SG Casino über 10.500 Euro verloren. Diesen Betrag fordere ich vollständig zurück. Das SG Casino hat nicht nur gegen die eigenen AGBs verstossen sondern auch gegen geltendes deutsches Recht.
Im Anhang noch meine verfasste Mail vom 18.4 - hierauf kam überhaupt keine Reaktion - auch im Mai und Juni habe ich Versuche unternommen, den Account zu schließen. Letztmals nun im Juli - der account ist trotz meiner Sucht geöffnet und ich werde immer wieder durch Cashback Aktionen geködert, doch weiterzuspielen - ganz aktuell habe ich am 26.7 erneut über meine Sucht informiert und bekam unmittelbar danach eine Mail mit 100 Euro Cashback, damit ich weiterspiele. Nicht nur moralisch ist das Verhalten des SG Casinos höchst fragwürdig. Es ist schlichtweg auch rechtlich nicht erlaubt. Mein Anwalt hat mir bereits signalisiert, dass vor Gericht sehr gute Aussichten auf Rückforderungen bestehen. Ich möchte dem SG Casino aber vorab die Möglichkeit geben, die Sache außergerichtlich zu lösen.
Hvala vam puno što ste poslali žalbu. Žao mi je što ste imali negativno iskustvo sa SG Casino-om.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Možete li nam, molim vas, reći da li je vaš nalog blokiran ili vam je i dalje dostupan?
Kada vam je kazino poslednji put dozvolio da uplatite depozit, molim vas?
Da li ste pokušali da kontaktirate podršku nakon što ste saznali da vaš zahtev za samoisključenje nije odobren?
Možete li, molim vas, podeliti sa mnom sve vaše zahteve za samoisključenje? Molim vas, podelite informacije na moju imejl adresu katarina.d@casino.guru .
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Katarina
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Ako primetite nešto sumnjivo, ne oklevajte da nas direktno kontaktirate.
Hvala vam na strpljenju i čuvajte se.
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with SG Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.
Could you please advise whether your account has been blocked or if it is still accessible to you?
When was the last time casino allowed you to make a deposit, please?
Have you tried contacting support after you learned your self-exclusion request wasn't granted?
Could you please share all of your self-exclusion requests with me? Please share the information to my email at katarina.d@casino.guru.
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Katarina
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Možemo da potvrdimo da nismo primili nikakvu e-poštu 18. aprila 2025. godine. E-pošta sa zahtevom za zatvaranje zbog zavisnosti od kockanja primljena je 26. jula 2025. godine. A vaš nalog je zatvoren 28. jula 2025. godine.
Međutim, ipak bismo želeli da ovo proverimo za vas. Stoga vas ljubazno molimo da podelite referentni broj imejla na koji se pozivate od 18. aprila 2025. godine.
Ljubazno bismo želeli da vas obavestimo da kad god se imejl pošalje našoj podršci, korisnik uvek dobija potvrdni imejl sa „referentnim brojem". Stoga, molimo vas da podelite referentni broj kako bismo mogli da proverimo i pomognemo vam u skladu sa tim.
We can confirm we never received any email on April 18, 2025. The email of closure request due to gambling addiction was received on July 26, 2025. And your account was closed on July 28, 2025.
However, we would still like to check this for you. Therefore, we kindly request you to please share the reference number for the email you are referring to from April 18, 2025.
We would kindly want to inform that whenever an email is sent to our support - the customer always receives a confirmation email with the "reference number". Therefore, please share the reference number so we can check and help you accordingly.
Ne, nema nesporazuma – postavio sam snimak ekrana imejla ovde. Vaša reakcija je u skladu sa vašom prevarom u vezi sa kazinom.
Imejl je poslat 18. aprila u 23:10. Srećom, imam snimak ekrana. Nažalost, više nemam istoriju imejlova. (Međutim, snimak ekrana pokazuje da je primalac ispravan.)
I nekoliko puta sam tražio da zatvorim svoj račun. Ne samo 18. aprila, već ovde prvi put. Na današnji datum
Mislim na rekultivacije.
Između ostalog, u maju i ponovo 4. jula - trebalo je da ste dobili i ovu e-poštu.
Nikada nisi odgovorio, već si me sve više i više uvlačio u zavisnost svojim VIP ponudama. Ponekad i do 5 poziva nedeljno. Snimci ekrana su takođe dostupni ovde!
No, there's no misunderstanding – I've uploaded the screenshot of the email here. Your reaction is consistent with your scam casino.
The email was sent on April 18 at 11:10 PM. Luckily, I have the screenshot. Unfortunately, I no longer have the email history. (The screenshot, however, shows that the recipient is correct.)
And I've asked several times to close my account. Not just on April 18th, but here for the first time. On this date
I am referring to the reclaims.
Among other things, in May and again on July 4th - you should also have received this email.
You never responded, but drove me deeper and deeper into addiction with your VIP offers. Sometimes up to 5 calls per week. Screenshots are available here, too!
Nein, es kommt zu keinem Missverständnis - ich habe hier ja den Screenshot der Mail hochgeladen. Eure Reaktion passt zu eurem Betrüger Casino.
Mail wurde am 18.4 um 23:10 geschickt. Zum Glück habe ich den Screenshot. Den mailverlauf habe ich leider nicht mehr. (Auf dem Screenshot sieht man aber dass der Empfänger richtig ist)
und ich habe mehrfach gebeten mein Konto zu schließen. Nicht nur am 18.4 - hier aber erstmals. Auf dieses datum
beziehe ich mich bei den Rückforderungen.
Unter anderem im Mai und dann auch nochmal am 4.7 - auch diese Mail sollte euch vorliegen.
ihr habt nie reagiert sondern mich immer tiefer in die Sucht getrieben durch eure VIP Angebote. Teilweise bis zu 5 Anrufe pro Woche . Auch hier liegen noch Screenshots vor!
Pošto do sada nije dobijen nikakav dalji odgovor, želeo bih da još jednom sumiram:
Kontaktirao sam kazino 18. aprila u 23:10 sa zahtevom da mi zatvore nalog zbog zavisnosti od kockanja. (Casino Guru ima snimak ekrana. Na njemu se vidi i da je imejl poslat i da je primalac support@sgcasino.com je tačno. Ponovo sam otpremio snimak ekrana ovde. Takođe ću ga dostaviti sudu.)
Nije bilo odgovora. Umesto toga, VIP menadžer je pokušao da me ohrabri da nastavim da igram.
Između 18. aprila i 27. jula izgubio sam preko 10.500 evra u vašem kazinu. Ovaj iznos mi mora biti vraćen u celosti.
Niste samo prekršili svoje uslove korišćenja već i važeći nemački zakon.
Moj advokat trenutno priprema tužbu. Pored nadoknade mojih gubitaka, zahtevaćemo da im se blokira IP adresa u Nemačkoj. Oni ne samo da se nemarno bave zavisnošću od kockanja, već i podstiču igrače da nastave sa kockanjem, ponekad i putem perfidnih telefonskih poziva.
Tokom proteklih nekoliko nedelja, takođe sam nekoliko puta pokušao da zatvorim svoj nalog, ali do danas se ništa nije desilo. Kazino je svestan moje zavisnosti, ali su se prema tome nosili bestidno. Više puta su pokušavali da me još više uvuku u zavisnost ponudama za povraćaj novca i telefonskim pozivima.
Između ostalih, od strane VIP menadžera „Niki" i „Leona" — takođe sam uveren da Kingmaker Casino i SG Casino sarađuju. Slučajno me je kontaktirala ista „Niki" u ime oba kazina — snimci ekrana su takođe dostupni ovde.
Tvrdnja da nisu primili imejl je skandalozna, jer imam više od jednog primera. Pokušavaju da se izvuku iz ove situacije bez posledica. Koristiću sva pravna sredstva protiv SG Casino-a.
Želeo bih da im pružim priliku da se izjasne, nadoknade mi gubitke i preduzmu preventivne mere za budućnost do 5. avgusta.
Srdačan pozdrav
D****** G******
Since no further response has been received so far, I would like to summarize again:
I contacted the casino on April 18th at 11:10 PM with a request to close my account due to my gambling addiction. (Casino Guru has the screenshot. It shows both that the email was sent and that the recipient support@sgcasino.com is correct. I've uploaded the screenshot here again. I will also provide it to the court.)
There was no response. Instead, the VIP manager tried to encourage me to continue playing.
Between April 18 and July 27, I lost over €10,500 in your casino. This amount must be refunded to me in full.
You have not only violated your terms and conditions but also applicable German law.
My lawyer is currently preparing the lawsuit. In addition to reimbursement of my losses, we will demand that their IP address be blocked in Germany. They not only deal negligently with gambling addiction, but also encourage players to continue gambling, sometimes through perfidious phone calls.
Over the past few weeks, I've also tried to close my account several times, but nothing has happened to date. The casino is aware of my addiction, but they handled it shamelessly. They repeatedly tried to drive me further into my addiction with cashback offers and phone calls.
Among others, by VIP managers "Nikkie" and "Leon"—I'm also convinced that Kingmaker Casino and SG Casino are working together. I was accidentally contacted by the same "Nikkie" on behalf of both casinos—the screenshots are also available here.
The claim that they didn't receive an email is outrageous, as I have more than one example. They're trying to get out of this situation without consequences. I will pursue all legal means against SG Casino.
I would like to give them the opportunity to comment, reimburse me for my losses, and take preventative measures for the future by August 5th.
Best regards
D****** G******
Da bisher keine weitere Antwort kam, möchte ich nochmal zusammenfassen:
ich habe das Casino am 18.4 um 23:10 Uhr mit der Bitte kontaktiert meinen Account aufgrund der Spielsucht zu schließen. (der Screenshot liegt Casino Guru vor. Es ist sowohl zu sehen, dass die Mail gesendet wurde, als auch dass der Empfänger support@sgcasino.com richtig ist. Ich habe den Screenshot auch hier nochmal hochgeladen. Ich werde diesem auch dem Gericht zur Verfügung stellen.)
Es erfolgte keinerlei Reaktion. Vielmehr wurde durch VIP Manager versucht, mich weiter zum Spielen zu animieren.
In dem Zeitraum zwischen dem 18.4 und dem 27.7 habe ich in ihrem Casino über 10.500 Euro verloren. Dieser Betrag ist mir in voller Höhe zu erstatten.
Sie haben nicht nur gegen ihre AGBs verstoßen sondern auch gegen geltendes deutsches Recht.
Mein Anwalt bereitet derzeit die Klage vor. Neben der Erstattung meiner Verluste werden wir die Sperrung ihrer IP-Adresse in Deutschland fordern. Sie gehen nicht nur fahrlässig mit Spielsucht um, sondern animieren Spieler immer weiter zu spielen, durch teilweise perfide Anrufe.
Im Verlauf der letzten Wochen habe ich zusätzlich mehrfach versucht mein Konto zu schließen, es ist bis heute nichts passiert. Meine Sucht ist dem Casino bekannt, doch es wurde schamlos damit umgegangen. Immer wieder durch Cash back Aktionen und Anrufe versucht, mich weiter in die Sucht zu treiben.
Unter anderem durch die VIP Manager „Nikkie" und „Leon" - ich bin zusätzlich überzeugt, dass das Casino Kingmaker und SG Casino gemeinsame Sache machen. Ich wurde vom gleichen „Nikkie" ausversehen im Namen beider Casinos kontaktiert - auch hier liegen die Screenshots vor.
Die Behauptung, sie haben keine Mail bekommen ist eine Frechheit, da ich nicht nur ein Beispiel habe. Sie versuchen ohne Konsequenzen aus der Nummer rauszukommen. Ich werde mit allen Rechtsmitteln gegen SG Casino vorgehen.
Ich möchte ihnen bis zum 5.8 die Möglichkeit geben, Stellung zu beziehen, mir die Verluste zu erstatten und für die Zukunft präventive Maßnahmen zu ergreifen.
Hvala vam puno na saradnji. Sada ću vašu žalbu proslediti kolegi Mateju ( matej.l@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Dear SG casino,
thank you for your reply.
Dear player,
Thank you very much for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej (matej.l@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead / Casino Analyst
Javno
pre 7 meseci
Prevod
Zdravo, Danijelgmuk , drago mi je što sam te upoznao!
Zovem se Matej i pomoći ću vam u vezi sa ovim slučajem. Daću sve od sebe da vam pomognem da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće.
Želeo bih da pozovem predstavnika SG Casino- a da se pridruži razgovoru i učestvuje u istrazi ovog slučaja. Da li biste mogli da pružite dodatne informacije u vezi sa problemom samoisključenja i razjasnite situaciju? Takođe bih bio zahvalan ako bi nam kazino mogao pružiti sve relevantne dokaze. Sve osetljive informacije ili interne sistemske datoteke možete mi direktno poslati putem e-pošte. matej.l@casino.guru .
Unapred vam hvala na strpljenju i saradnji.
Hello danielgmuc, nice to meet you!
My name is Matej, and I will be assisting you with this case. I'll do my best to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible.
I’d like to invite a representative of SG Casino to join the conversation and participate in the investigation of this case as well. Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue with self-exclusion and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate if the casino could provide us with any and all relevant evidence. Any sensitive information or internal system files can be shared with me directly by e-mail matej.l@casino.guru.
Thank you for your patience and cooperation in advance.
Zdravo Mateju, većina informacija se već može naći ovde u kursu.
Kazino negira da je primio imejl, ali srećom sam napravio snimak ekrana.
Ovo je jasno i dostupno je i mom advokatu. Pošto kazino nije pokazao uvid u svoje nedolično ponašanje, podnećemo tužbu protiv Stellar Ltd. (SG Casino) Regionalnom sudu u Minhenu I kasnije ove nedelje.
Nije bio samo jedan zahtev za samoisključenje.
Može se pretpostaviti da kazino posluje sistematski, terajući zavisnike od kockanja dalje u zavisnost i pokušavajući da veže igrače za kazino putem VIP ponuda.
VIP predstavnici su mi takođe dali neke veoma teške izjave preko telefona. Kada su me pitali o mojoj zavisnosti, sledeće reakcije su bile među onima koje sam dobio: „Razmislite ponovo, ovde dobijate najbolje ponude."
Takođe je pokazatelno: Kada sam poslednji put aplicirao za samoisključenje ujutru 26. jula, dobio sam ponudu od VIP odeljenja oko devet sati kasnije. Šaljem vam ovaj snimak ekrana.
Imam mnogo dokaza — slučaj je veoma jasan, zbog čega pravno zahtevamo puni iznos odštete. Takođe trenutno ispitujemo da li možemo da tražimo nadoknadu za bol i patnju. Zbog moje zavisnosti, primam terapiju.
Hello Matej, most of the information can already be found here in the course.
The casino denies having received an email, but fortunately I took a screenshot.
This is clear and is also available to my lawyer. Since the casino has shown no insight into its misconduct, we will file a lawsuit against Stellar Ltd. (SG Casino) with the Munich Regional Court I later this week.
There was not just one request for self-exclusion.
It can be assumed that the casino operates systematically, driving gambling addicts further into addiction and trying to bind players to the casino through VIP offers.
The VIP representatives also made some very difficult statements to me over the phone. When asked about my addiction, the following reactions were among those I received: "Reconsider, you get the best deals here."
Also telling: When I last applied for self-exclusion on the morning of July 26, I received an offer from the VIP department about nine hours later. I'm sending you this screenshot.
I have a lot of evidence—the case is very clear, which is why we are legally demanding the full amount of the damages. We are also currently examining whether we can claim compensation for pain and suffering. Because of my addiction, I am receiving therapy.
Hallo Matej, die meisten Infos sind bereits hier im Verlauf zu lesen.
Das Casino bestreitet eine Mail bekommen zu haben, ich habe allerdings glücklicherweise einen Screenshot gemacht.
Der ist eindeutig und steht auch meinem Anwalt zur Verfügung. Da von Casino-Seite keinerlei Einsicht bzgl ihres Fehlverhaltens aufgezeigt wird, werden wir im Laufe der Woche Klage beim Landgericht I in München gegen Stellar Ltd (SG Casino) einreichen.
Es gab ja auch nicht nur einen Antrag auf Selbstausschluss.
Es ist davon auszugehen, dass das Casino systematisch vorgeht und Spielsüchtige immer weiter in die Sucht treibt und durch VIP-Angebote versucht, die Spieler an das Casino zu binden.
Telefonisch wurden mir von den VIP-Ansprechpartnern auch sehr schwierige Aussagen getroffen. Angesprochen auf meine Sucht kamen unter anderem folgende Reaktionen. "Überlege dir das nochmal, du kriegst hier die besten Angebote".
Auch ebenfalls bezeichnend. Bei meinem letzten Antrag auf Selbstausschluss vom 26.7 morgens kam circa 9 Stunden ein Angebot der VIP-Abteilung. Diesen Screenshot lasse ich dir zukommen.
Ich habe etliche Beweise - der Fall ist sehr eindeutig, weshalb wir juristisch die volle Schadenssumme zurückfordern. Es wird ebenfalls derzeit geprüft, ob Schmerzensgeld beantragt werden kann. Durch die Sucht, befinde ich mich in therapeutischer Behandlung.
Zdravo Mateju, imaš li novosti? Ako SG Casino ne odgovori brzo ili mi ne nadoknadi gubitke, moj advokat će odmah podneti tužbu.
Hello Matej, do you have an update? If SG Casino doesn't respond promptly or reimburse me for my losses, my lawyer will file a lawsuit immediately.
Hallo Matej, hast du ein Update? Wenn das SG Casino nicht zeitnah reagiert bzw. mir meine Verluste erstattet, wird unmittelbar von meinem Anwalt Klage eingereicht.
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead / Casino Analyst
Javno
pre 7 meseci
Prevod
Zdravo, ako ima bilo kakvih novosti, uvek objavim barem kratak odgovor u vezi sa trenutnim razvojem događaja. Molim vas da sačekate sa tužbama i ostalim stvarima, jer bi to onemogućilo svako dalje posredovanje.
Dok čekam odgovor kazina, možete li mi, molim vas, proslediti originalni imejl u vezi sa zavisnošću od kockanja koji ste poslali kazinu?
Takođe, možete li mi reći da li ste dobili potvrdu da je kazino primio originalnu poruku (obično Zendesk ima tendenciju da pošalje automatsku poruku sa brojem identifikacionog broja karte)?
I na kraju, šta ste još uradili nakon što niste dobili nikakav odgovor na svoj prvobitni zahtev? Da li ste poslali dodatne imejlove? Razgovarali ste putem ćaskanja uživo? Šta ste uradili nakon toga, ako imate snimke ekrana ili dodatne poruke, pošaljite mi ih sve na matej.l@casino.guru kako bih mogao da ga otpremim među dokaze za ovaj slučaj, što bi mi pomoglo u daljem posredovanju. Hvala vam.
Hello, if there is any update, I always post at least a quick reply regarding the current development. Please wait with the lawsuits and other stuff, as that would render any further mediation impossible.
While waiting for the casino to reply, could you please forward me the original e-mail regarding gambling addiction that you have sent to the casino?
Also, could you please let me know if you have received any confirmation of the casino receiving the original message (usually Zendesk tends to send an automated message with ticket ID number)?
And lastly, what else did you do after not receiving any reply to your original request? Have you sent further e-mails? Spoke with the live chat? Anything you have done afterwards, if you have screenshots or further messages, please send them all to me at matej.l@casino.guru so I can upload it amongst the evidence for this case, to help me with the further mediation. Thank you.
Nažalost, više nemam te imejlove jer ih moje prijemno sanduče čuva samo četiri nedelje zbog ograničenja skladištenja. Drago mi je što sam tada napravio snimak ekrana imejla. Napravio sam ga samo zato što sam mislio da bi u nekom trenutku moglo biti problema.
Juče sam vam poslao sve dodatne dokaze, kao i imejl od 4. jula sa samoisključenjem.
Preostala komunikacija se odvijala isključivo putem Telegrama i telefona.
Mogao bih da vam pošaljem snimke ekrana broja koji me je stalno zvao.
Nažalost, nemam više informacija, ali bi trebalo da bude dovoljno da se vidi da iza ovoga stoji sistem. Umesto da zabranjuju zavisne igrače, oni nastavljaju da ih mame i podstiču.
Sačekaću do kraja nedelje da podnesem tužbu. Kao što sam rekao, slučaj je izuzetno jasan; izuzetno sam iznenađen što se kazino nastavlja upetljavati u laži i izgovore.
Ali moje strpljenje polako nestaje - kazino me je upropastio - tako da neću više dugo čekati.
Hey Matej,
Unfortunately, I no longer have the emails because my inbox only stores them for four weeks due to storage restrictions. I'm just glad I took a screenshot of the email back then. I only took it because I thought there might be problems at some point.
I sent you all further evidence yesterday, as well as an email dated July 4th with the self-exclusion.
The remaining communication took place exclusively via Telegram and telephone.
I could send you screenshots of the number that kept calling me.
Unfortunately, I don't have any more information, but it should still be enough to see that there's a system behind this. Rather than banning addicted gamers, they continue to lure and encourage them.
I'll wait until the end of the week to file a lawsuit. As I said, the case is extremely clear; I'm extremely surprised that the casino continues to entangle itself in lies and excuses.
But my patience is slowly running out - the casino has ruined me - so I won't wait much longer.
Hey Matej,
ich habe leider die Mails nicht mehr, weil mein Postfach die Mails wegen des Speichers immer nur für 4 Wochen speichert. Bin nur froh damals einen Screenshot der Mail gemacht zu haben. Den habe ich auch nur gemacht, weil ich dachte, dass es ja möglicherweise mal Probleme geben kann.
Alle weiteren Beweise wie auch eine Mail vom 4.7 mit Selbtausschluss habe ich dir gestern geschickt.
Die restliche Kommunikation fand ausschließlich per Telegram und Telefon statt.
Ich könnte dir noch Screenshots der Nummer schicken, die mich immer angerufen hat.
Mehr habe ich leider nicht, das sollte aber dennoch ausreichen, um zu erkennen, dass hier ein System dahinter steckt. Spielsüchtige nicht zu sperren, sondern immer weiter zu locken und animieren.
Ích warte mit der Klage bis Ende der Woche. Wie gesagt. Der Fall ist super eindeutig, ich bin extrem verwundert, dass das Casino sich weiter in Lügen und Ausreden verstrickt.
Meine Geduld ist aber langsam am Ende- Das Casino hat mich ruiniert - daher werde ich nicht mehr lange warten.
Pravite se budalom, ali to se uklapa u vaše prevarno ponašanje i ponašanje vaših VIP menadžera, koji žele da zavisnike od kockanja još više uvuku u zavisnost.
that is an absolute cheek.
And you never received the email from July 4th, did you?
You're making a fool of yourselves, but that fits with your fraudulent behavior and the behavior of your VIP managers, who want to drive gambling addicts further into addiction.
das ist eine absolute Frechheit.
und die Mail vom 4.7 haben sie auch nie erhalten, oder?
ihr macht euch lächerlich, das passt aber zu eurem Betrüger Auftreten und dem Auftreten eurer VIP Manager, die Spielsüchtige immer weiter in die Sucht treiben wollen.
Pored toga, dragi SG Casino, imam listu pitanja na koja biste želeli da odgovorite.
Objavljivanje podataka u skladu sa GDPR-om
Da li postoji veza između SG kazina i Kingmaker kazina? Kontaktirao me je isti VIP menadžer. Zove se „Niki".
Koliki su bili moji gubici između 18. aprila i 27. jula 2025. godine?
Kažu da nisu primili moje samoisključenje od 18. aprila. Takođe ću se zakleti pod zakletvom da sam ja poslao taj imejl. Šta je sa imejlom od 4. jula sa samoisključenjem? Zar ni to nisu primili?
Zašto je povraćaj novca uplaćen na moj račun nekoliko sati nakon mog poslednjeg samoisključenja i da li je moj VIP menadžer pokušao da me ubedi da nastavim da igram?
Šta kažete na činjenicu da VIP menadžeri i dalje pokušavaju da ohrabre igrače da nastave da igraju uprkos upozorenjima o zavisnosti od kockanja?
In addition, dear SG Casino, I have a list of questions that you would like to answer.
Data disclosure according to GDPR
Is there a connection between SG Casino and Kingmaker Casino? I was contacted by the same VIP manager. His name is "Nikkie."
How much were my losses between April 18 and July 27, 2025
They say they didn't receive my self-exclusion from April 18th. I will also swear under oath that I sent that email. What about the email from July 4th with a self-exclusion? Did they not receive that either?
Why was cashback credited to my account a few hours after my last self-exclusion and did my VIP manager try to get me to continue playing?
What do you say about the fact that VIP managers keep trying to encourage players to continue playing despite warnings about gambling addiction?
Ergänzend liebes SG Casino - hätte ich einen Fragenkatalog, den sie bitte beantworten sollen.
Datenauskunft gemäß DSGVO
gibt es eine Verbindung zwischen dem SG Casino und dem Kingmaker Casino? Ich bin von ein und demselben VIP-Manager kontaktiert worden. Sein Name ist „Nikkie"
wie hoch waren meine Verluste zwischen dem 18.4 und dem 27.7.2025
sie sagen sie haben meinen selbstausschluss vom 18.4 nicht bekommen, ich werde auch unter Eid aussagen, dass ich diese Mail gesendet habe. Was ist mit der Mail vom 4.7 mit einem Selbstausschluss. Haben sie diese auch nicht bekommen?
wieso wurde mir nach meinem letzten Selbstausschluss einige Stunden später Cashback gut geschrieben und durch mein VIP Manager versucht, dass ich doch weiterspiele.
was sagen sie dazu, dass die VIP Manager trotz Hinweis auf Spielsucht immer wieder versuchen, die Spieler zum weitermachen zu animieren?
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead / Casino Analyst
Javno
pre 6 meseci
Prevod
Hvala SG Casino- u na dostavljenim dokazima, uskoro ću ih pregledati.
Dok ja to radim - dragi danielgmuc , SG Casino koristi Zendesk kao svoju platformu za podršku, i imali smo slučajeve sa mnogim drugim kazinima koji koriste ovu uslugu, gde su poruke primane danima ili čak nedeljama kasnije, ili su se čak gubile - dok su moje kolege koje su bile dodate u kopiju poruka, primale ih odmah. Lično, jako ne volim Zendesk.
Uzimajući ovo u obzir, Zendesk uvek šalje automatski odgovor kada primi poruku, sa ID brojem tiketa. Ako ste primili automatsku poruku nakon slanja e-pošte o samoisključenju 18. aprila, javite nam broj tiketa i kazino će moći da pronađe vašu e-poštu u roku od nekoliko sekundi. Ako niste primili ovu poruku, to znači da nije dostavljena kazinu.
Takođe, molim vas, recite mi šta ste još uradili nakon što niste dobili nikakav odgovor na vašu poruku od 18. aprila. Da li ste kontaktirali ćaskanje uživo da biste se raspitali o statusu vašeg zahteva? Da li ste poslali još jednu e-poštu podsećajući kazino na vašu zavisnost od kockanja i da nalog treba što pre zatvoriti? Pitam, jer sam do sada video jedan snimak ekrana poruke koja je mogla biti izgubljena i redovan zahtev za zatvaranje naloga jer vam kazino nije dao bonus. Ako ste pokušali da se samoisključite, sada je vreme da me obavestite.
Što se tiče veze između Kingmaker-a i SG Casino-a - oba kazina su u vlasništvu i pod upravom različitih kompanija. Međutim, nemam saznanja da li te kompanije pripadaju korporaciji ili grupi.
Thank you SG Casino for the provided evidence, I will review it shortly.
While I do that - dear danielgmuc, SG Casino uses Zendesk as their support platform, and we had cases with many other casinos using this service, where messages were received days or even weeks later, or even lost - while my colleagues who were CCed into the messages, received them instantly. Personally, I dislike Zendesk very much.
With this being said, Zendesk always sends an automated reply once it receives a message, with a ticket ID number. If you have received the automated message after sending the self-exclusion e-mail on 18th April, please let us know the ticket number, and the casino will be able to locate your e-mail within seconds. If you have not received this message, it means it was not delivered to the casino.
Also, please let me know what else you have done after not receiving any response to your message from 18th April. Have you contacted live chat inquiring about the status of your request? Have you sent another e-mail reminding the casino about your gambling addiction, and that the account needs to be closed ASAP? I am asking, because so far I have seen one screenshot of the message that could have been lost, and a regular account closure request because the casino did not give you bonus. If you made any further attempts to self-exclude, now is the time to let me know.
As for the Kingmaker and SG Casino connection - both casinos are being owned and operated by different companies. However, I have no knowledge whether those companies belong to a corporation or a group.
Nažalost, ne znam da li sam dobio automatsku e-poštu jer, kao što sam rekao, više nemam te e-poruke. Imam samo snimak ekrana e-poruka koje sam poslao (koji sam napravio za svaki slučaj).
Prijavio sam svoju zavisnost od kockanja VIP menadžerima putem Telegrama i telefona, ali ništa se nije desilo.
A takođe i u vezi sa imejlom od 4. jula - čak i bez navođenja razloga, nalog mora biti zatvoren na zahtev igrača.
Međutim, kazino je nekoliko puta odbio ovaj zahtev, nadajući se da ću sa njima izgubiti još više novca.
Moje strpljenje je pri kraju, a kazino ne pokazuje razumevanje, pa ćemo sutra, u petak, podneti tužbu i pokušati da mi vratimo novac preko banke.
Unfortunately, I don't know if I received an automated email because, as I said, I no longer have those emails. I only have a screenshot of the emails I sent (which I took just to be safe).
I reported my gambling addiction to the VIP managers via Telegram and by phone, but nothing happened.
And also regarding the email on July 4th - even without giving a reason, the account must be closed at the player's request.
However, the casino has denied this request several times, hoping that I would lose even more money with them.
My patience is at an end, and the casino is showing no understanding, so we will file a lawsuit tomorrow, Friday, and try to get my money back through my bank.
Ich weiß leider nicht, ob ich eine automatisierte Mail bekommen habe, weil mir wie gesagt diese Mails nicht mehr vorliegen. Ich habe nur den Screenshot meiner versendeten Mails (diesen habe ich auch nur zur Sicherheit gemacht).
Ich habe den VIP-Managern meine Spielsucht mitgeteilt, via Telegram und am Telefon - aber auch hier ist nichts passiert.
Und auch zur Mail am 4.7 - auch ohne Angabe von Gründen muss auf Spielerwunsch das Konto geschlossen werden.
Das Casino hat aber mehrfach diesen Wunsch verwehrt, in der Hoffnung, dass ich noch mehr Geld bei ihnen verspiele.
Meine Geduld ist am Ende und auch das Casino zeigt überhaupt keine Einsicht, daher werden wir am morgigen Freitag Klage einreichen und über meine Bank noch versuchen, Gelder zurückzubekommen.
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead / Casino Analyst
Javno
pre 6 meseci
Prevod
Izvinjavam se zbog kasnog odgovora, želeo sam da se uverim da nisam propustio ništa važno. Sada sam pregledao dokaze koje je dostavio kazino i ponovo pregledao one koje je poslao igrač.
Nažalost, bez ID-a tiketa koji Zendesk sistem šalje nakon prijema poruke, biće nemoguće dokazati da je imejl poslat 18. aprila stigao na svoje odredište. Štaviše, igrač je potvrdio da nema ni originalnu poruku, što znači da nema dostupnih verodostojnih dokaza. Iako ne impliciram da igrač laže - ali pošto je pokrenuta pretnja tužbom - samo ističem da bez čvrstog dokaza možda neće biti ničega što bi se moglo izneti na sud.
Dragi danielgmuc , SG Casino mi je pružio višestruke razgovore između tebe i tima za podršku - pre i posle 18. aprila. Nijedan od njih ne pominje zavisnost od kockanja, međutim, svaki se fokusira na povraćaj novca i preti kazinu ako se povraćaj novca ne isplati. Nijedan razgovor ne pokazuje da pitaš o stanju zatvaranja naloga i zašto zahtev od 18. aprila nije ispunjen. Ovo takođe ne dodaje težinu prvobitnoj tvrdnji.
Jedini zahtev za samoisključenje koji pominje zavisnost od kockanja primljen je 26. jula, nakon čega je usledila prilično brza deaktivacija naloga. Nakon detaljnijeg pregleda, poruka od 26.07. je potpuno drugačija od one poslate 18. aprila, tako da ne mislim da je ovo ista poruka koja je primljena nekoliko meseci kasnije. Znajući nestabilnost Zendeska, sklon sam da verujem da poruka poslata 18. aprila jednostavno nije stigla na svoje odredište, što se povremeno dešava svim kazinima koji koriste ovaj sistem.
Pošto je račun sada zatvoren i prema istoriji blagajnika (koju je takođe dostavio kazino) nema šta da se vrati, verujem da se ova žalba sada može odbiti. Međutim, pre nego što je zatvorim, ostaviću je otvorenom za eventualna dalja pitanja ili da pružim dodatna objašnjenja koja su potrebna.
Na kraju, ako imate bilo kakve dokaze koji podržavaju vašu informaciju - poput pomenutog Telegram razgovora u kojem ste VIP menadžeru rekli o svojoj zavisnosti od kockanja (čak i ako je menadžer obrisao svoj deo razgovora, vaše poruke su i dalje dostupne za snimanje ekrana i dostavljanje), ili ako imate snimke ekrana razgovora sa ćaskanjem uživo u kojima pitate o statusu zahteva za samoisključenje od 18.04., slobodno mi ih pošaljite tako što ćete ih otpremiti u ovu temu ili poslati direktno imejlom na matej.l@casino.guru , jer bi mi to omogućilo da ovu žalbu držim otvorenom i dalje je istražim. Ako nema dodatnih pitanja ili dopuna, uskoro ću zatvoriti ovu žalbu.
Apologies for the late reply, I wanted to make sure I am not missing anything important. I have now reviewed the evidence provided by the casino and re-reviewed the one sent by the player.
Unfortunately without the ticket ID that the Zendesk system sends after receiving a message, it will be impossible to prove that the e-mail sent 18th April has reached its destination. Furthermore, the player confirmed not having the original message either, which means there is no credible evidence available. While I do not imply that the player is lying - but since the threat of the lawsuit has been brought up - I am just pointing out that without a solid proof, there may be nothing to take to court.
Dear danielgmuc, the SG Casino has provided me with multiple conversations between yourself and the support team - before and after the 18th April. Not a single one is mentioning gambling addiction, however each one is focusing on cashback and threatening the casino if no cashback is given. Not a single conversation has been showing you asking about the state of the account closure, and why the request from 18th April has not been adhered to. This also does not add any weight to the original claim.
The only self-exclusion request that mentions gambling addiction has been received on 26th July, followed by rather quick account deactivation. Upon closer look, the message from 26/07 is completely different from the one sent 18th April so I don't think this is the same message being received few months later. Knowing Zendesk's instability, I am prone to believe the message sent on 18th April has simply not reached its destination, which happens occasionally to all the casinos using this system.
Since the account is now closed and according to the cashier history (also provided by the casino) there is nothing to refund, I believe this complaint now can be rejected. However, before I close it, I will leave it open for any further questions to be answered, or to provide further explanation that may be needed.
Lastly, if you have any supporting evidence - like the said Telegram conversation where you told the VIP manager about your gambling addiction (even if the manager deleted his part of the conversation, your messages are still available to screenshot and provide), or if you have any screenshots of talking to the live chat asking about the status of the 18/04 self-exclusion request, please do not hesitate to send them to me either by uploading to this thread or emailing directly at matej.l@casino.guru, as that would allow me to keep this complaint open and investigate further. If there are no further questions or additions, I will close this complaint shortly.
Žao mi je. Smešni ste i niste se čak ni fokusirali na rešenje. I opet, upozorenje. Imejl od 4. jula je dostupan – jasno saopštava zahtev za zatvaranje naloga. Razlog je potpuno irelevantan prema nemačkom zakonu. Čak i uslovi korišćenja kazina navode da će nalog biti zatvoren u roku od 24 sata.
Kazino je obavezan da to učini. Štaviše, kazino još uvek nije odgovorio na moju listu pitanja – kao što sam rekao, nažalost, više nemam imejl od 18. aprila. Zahtevam povraćaj svih gubitaka od 4. do 27. jula. I da, dragi casino.guru – kazino je obavezan da to učini, pošto moj nalog nije zatvoren kako je traženo. U svakom slučaju, iza ovoga stoji taktika, da se gubi sve više i više. Odvratno.
I'm sorry. You're ridiculous and not even focused on a solution. And again, the warning. The email from July 4th is available – it clearly communicates the request to close the account. The reason is completely irrelevant under German law. Even the casino's terms and conditions state that the account will be closed within 24 hours.
The casino is obligated to do so. Furthermore, the casino hasn't yet answered my list of questions – as I said, unfortunately, I no longer have the email from April 18. I'm demanding a refund of all losses from July 4 to July 27. And yes, dear casino.guru – the casino is obligated to do so, since my account wasn't closed as requested. There's a tactic behind this anyway, to keep losing more and more. Disgusting.
tut mir leid. ihr seid lächerlich und auch nicht an einer lösung orientiert. und auch nochmal der hinweis. die Mail vom 4.7 liegt vor - hier wird klar die forderung mit schließung des accounts kommunizert. Der Grund ist nach deutschem Recht völlig irrelevant. Selbst die AGBs des Casinos besagen, dass das KOnto innerhalb von 24h geschlossen wird.
Das casino ist dazu verpflichtet. desweiteren wurde mein Fragenkatalog vom Casino noch nicht beantwortet - da ich wie gesagt die mail vom 18.4 leider nicht mehr habe. fordere ich alle verluste vom 4.7 - 27.7 zurück und ja lieber casino.guru - dazu ist das casino verpflichtet, da nicht wie gewünscht mein account geschlossen wurde. dahinter steckt ja sowieso taktik, damit immer mehr verspielt wird. ekelhaft
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead / Casino Analyst
Javno
pre 6 meseci
Prevod
Dragi danielgmuc , žao mi je što stvari vidite na ovaj način i što vam nisam mogao više pomoći. Pošto je kazino dokazao da su zatvorili nalog nakon što su 26. jula primili zahtev za samoisključenje i da nijedan saldo nije poništen (takođe je dokazano da je vaš depozit od 199€ uplaćen u tom roku i da ste uspeli da povučete sredstva pre zatvaranja naloga), ova žalba će sada biti zatvorena kao „odbijena", jer verujem da nema više šta da se posreduje.
Nažalost, nemoguće je dokazati da je poruka poslata (pošto nemate originalni imejl od 18. aprila) ili primljena od strane kazina (jer nemate ni ID tiketa) i stoga nemam ništa što bih mogao da koristim kao polugu. Štaviše, nikada se niste raspitali kod kazina u vezi sa statusom zahteva od 18. aprila - ni putem daljih imejlova niti putem ćaskanja uživo, što smatramo nedovoljnim naporom sa vaše strane. Umesto toga, svi brojni razgovori koje je kazino pružio odnose se isključivo na zahteve za povraćaj novca i bonuse.
Što se tiče imejla od 4. jula - u ovoj poruci zahtevate redovno zatvaranje naloga, ako vam kazino ne obezbedi bonus. Nema pomena o zavisnosti od kockanja, stoga se pretpostavlja da ste bili potpuno prisebni i da ste mogli jednostavno da prestanete sa uplaćivanjem/igranjem dok se nalog ne zatvori. Stoga, ni ovu poruku ne mogu da koristim kao polugu.
I na kraju, želeo bih da istaknem da kazino poseduje licencu od strane Anjouan Gaming Authority, koja ne pokriva Nemačku, kao što je navedeno u samom validatoru:
Ovo se vezuje za tačku 2.2 uslova i odredbi kazina koje ste prihvatili prilikom registracije:
To znači da se nemački zakon ne primenjuje na ovaj slučaj i ako želite da idete zvaničnim putem, predlažem da se žalite direktno Anžuanskoj upravi putem validatora koji se nalazi na naslovnoj stranici kazina. Moram vas upozoriti da zbog gore navedenih razloga čvrsto verujem da će žalba biti odlučena u korist kazina.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Matej
Dear danielgmuc, I am sorry you are seeing things this way, and that I could not be of more help. Since the casino has proved that they closed the account after receiving the self-exclusion request on 26th July and no balance was voided (also proved that your deposit of 199€ done within this time you have also managed to withdraw before the account closure), this complaint will now be closed as "rejected", as I believe there is nothing more to mediate.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to prove that the message has been sent (since you do not have the original e-mail from the 18th April) or received by the casino (as you neither have the the ticket ID) and thus I have nothing to use as a leverage. Furthermore, you have never once inquired with the casino regarding the status of the request from 18th April - neither by further e-mails or via live chat, which we consider to be an insufficient effort on your end. Instead, all the numerous conversations provided by the casino are referring purely to requests for cashback and bonuses.
Regarding the e-mail from 4th July - in this message you are requesting a regular account closure, if the casino does not provide you with a bonus. There is no mention of gambling addiction, therefore it is assumed you were in full possession of your faculties, and were able to simply stop depositing/playing until the account gets closed. Therefore I can't use this message as a leverage either.
And lastly, I would like to point out that the casino is licensed by Anjouan Gaming Authority, which does not cover Germany, as is stated within the validator itself:
This ties to the point 2.2 of the casino's T&C that you agreed to when signing up:
This means German law does not apply to this case and if you would like to go the official route, I would suggest complaining directly to the Anjouan Authority via the validator present on the casino's front page. I must warn you though, that due to the abovementioned reasons, I strongly believe the complaint will be ruled in favour of the casino.
Best regards,
Matej
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