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Poštovani mex26 , prema gore navedenoj izjavi Turbo Wins-a, kao i dokazima koje ste vi sami pružili, zahtev za zatvaranje naloga od 29. septembra ne pominje zavisnost od kockanja. Zbog toga se ne može smatrati zahtevom za samoisključenje, već redovnim zatvaranjem naloga. U tom slučaju, pošto kazino nije imao saznanja o mogućim problemima sa kockanjem, nemoguće je da Casino Guru posreduje u bilo kakvom povraćaju novca.
Tokom redovnog zatvaranja naloga, pretpostavlja se da igrač ima potpunu kontrolu nad svojim kockarskim i potrošačkim navikama i uvek ima mogućnost da jednostavno ne igra, dok se nalog ne zatvori (ili teoretski čak i ako se nikada ne zatvori). To je isto kao i da imate loše iskustvo u restoranu - možete da izaberete da se ne vratite.
Zato je pominjanje problema sa kockanjem veoma važno, i čak i prema vrednostima bezbednosti igrača kompanije Casino Guru, ne možemo 100% odgovornosti prebaciti na kazina. Stoga uvek tražimo od igrača da naprave prvi veoma važan (a neki kažu i najteži) korak i priznaju da imaju problem. Ako se to ne dogodi, nemamo mnogo razloga za pouku. Tek kada se problem navede, možemo zamoliti kazino da hitno reši takve zahteve.
Međutim, 7. oktobra ste pomenuli zavisnost od kockanja, a kazino je potvrdio da je nalog odmah zatvoren. Da bismo pokrenuli ovaj slučaj, želeo bih da pitam sledeće:
Poštovani time kazina Turbo Wins , možete li potvrditi da je nalog trajno blokiran bez mogućnosti ponovnog otvaranja, da kupac neće moći ponovo da se registruje koristeći iste podatke za prijavu i da je sva marketinška komunikacija prestala?
Dragi/ a mex26 , kao što je gore navedeno, neću moći da zahtevam povraćaj depozita uplaćenih pre 7. oktobra. Osim ako nema drugih poruka za koje nisam upoznat/a, gde je pomenuta zavisnost od kockanja, zatvoriću ovu žalbu nakon što kazino potvrdi da je proces samoisključenja završen. Razumem da ovo nije ishod koji ste očekivali, ali se nadam da sam uspeo/la da objasnim razloge koji stoje iza toga i kako se to poklapa sa vrednostima i stavovima Kazino Gurua. Molim vas, javite mi ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja ili ako postoji još nešto što sam možda propustio/la. Hvala vam.
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During a regular account closure it is assumed the player is in full control of their gambling and spending habits, and always have the option of simply not playing, until the account is closed (or in theory even if it never gets closed). It is the same as having a bad experience in a restaurant - you can choose not to come back.
This is why mentioning gambling issues is very important, and even according to Casino Guru's player safety values, we can't put 100% of the responsibility on the casinos. Therefore, we always ask the players to make the first very important (and some say the hardest) step and acknowledge having a problem. If that does not happen, we don't have much to go on by. Only once the problem is stated, we can ask the casino to urgently deal with such requests.
However, on 7th October you have mentioned having the gambling addiction, and the casino confirmed the account has been promptly closed. To move this case forward, I would like to ask the following:
Dear Turbo Wins Casino Team, can you please confirm the account is blocked permanently with no option for reopening, the customer will not be able to re-register using the same credentials and that all the marketing communication has ceased?
Dear mex26, as per above, I will not be able to request a refund of the deposits made before 7th October. Unless there are other messages I am not aware of, where the gambling addiction has been mentioned, I will be closing this complaint after the casino confirms the self-exclusion process has been finished. I understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, but hopefully I was able to explain the reasoning behind it, and how it aligns with Casino Guru values and views. Please, let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything else I may have missed. Thank you.
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