Draga Fistaisda , nakon što sam ponovo pročitao celu ovu temu i dokaze koje ste mi pružili i ti i kazino, došao sam do zaključka. S obzirom da je kazino postupio sa zahtevom za samoisključenje primljenim 17. januara u razumnom roku, bez oduzimanja bilo kakvog iznosa, a takođe i zbog nedovoljnog napora sa tvoje strane, moraću da zatvorim ovaj slučaj kao odbijen.
Sada ću objasniti kako sam došao do ove odluke i, iako ne očekujem da se slažete sa njom, bar se nadam da ćete razumeti obrazloženje koje stoji iza nje.
- Zahtev za samoisključenje od 27.11.2025.
Iako ste mi pokazali samo snimak ekrana navodne poruke, a ne samu poruku, verujem da ste je poslali. Nažalost, kazino tvrdi da je nikada nisu primili i iako deluje sumnjivo - dešava se. Sistem za podršku je preopterećen tonama dnevnih poruka primljenih iz svih vrsta poštanskih sandučića, a ponekad se neke poruke zaglave, završe u pogrešnoj gomili ili uopšte ne stignu do servera.
- Nedovoljan trud sa vaše strane
Zato sam vas pitao da li ste pokušali da se raspitate o statusu vašeg zahteva za samoisključenje. Kada ste kontaktirali ćaskanje uživo 28.11.2025. godine, niste pomenuli poruku poslatu 27., već ste samo zahtevali samoisključenje. Agent za podršku vas je zamolio da pošaljete imejl, u skladu sa pravilima samoisključenja napisanim na stranici kazina o odgovornom kockanju . Ponovo, niste čak ni pomenuli poruku poslatu dan ranije. Tvrdite da je nemoguće doći do ćaskanja uživo, ali niste pokušali da pošaljete još jedan upit putem imejla, već ste poslali samo još jedan zahtev za samoisključenje kasnije ovog meseca. Ovo ne pokazuje dovoljan trud sa vaše strane prema našem kodeksu fer kockanja , jer ljudi obično šalju mnogo poruka na bilo koji mogući način, ako ne dobiju odgovor od osoblja za podršku.
- Zahtev za samoisključenje od 17.01.2026.
Kazino je primio ovu poruku i obradio je u razumnom roku. Nijedan saldo nije poništen u vreme zatvaranja, a Kazino Guru nikada ne zahteva povraćaj depozita uplaćenih tokom perioda obrade samoisključenja.
Pošto je nalog zatvoren u skladu sa Uslovima i odredbama kazina, nema potrebe za povraćajem novca i zbog gore navedenog, sada ću morati da zatvorim nalog kao odbijen. Međutim, osvrnuću se i na još jednu stvar koju ste pomenuli:
U ćaskanju uživo su mi rekli da nemaju nikakve veze sa Vandom, ali sam istražio!
Ako pod „Wand" mislite na „ Lucky Wands Caisno ", onda je podrška bila tačna. Ovaj kazino je u vlasništvu i pod upravom potpuno druge kompanije.
Štaviše, kazino je trebalo da me blokira i u partnerskim kazinima, što nisu uradili. Registrovao sam se na Onlyspins-u i prokockao preko 1000 evra, iako je trebalo da budem banovan jer je u pitanju ista platforma.
Ako bi vas samoisključenje u jednom kazinu automatski isključilo iz svih ostalih, to bi bilo sjajno, ali nažalost to nije norma. Proverio sam i Uslove i odredbe, kao i stranicu o odgovornom kockanju za Wyns Casino i OnlySpins Casino , i nigde ne piše da samoisključenje u jednom kazinu znači automatsko samoisključenje u drugom. Nemam pojma ko vam je predstavio ovu ideju, ali je pogrešna. Osim ako nije otvoreno navedeno u uslovima ili na stranici o odgovornom kockanju, nažalost, vlasnici i operateri kazina nemaju obavezu da vas isključe sa svih svojih platformi, osim ako to ne žele.
Ali nije samo tuga i beznadežnost. Ako vam je potrebna pomoć sa zavisnošću od kockanja, nema potrebe da se borite sami. Ako mi pošaljete poruku na matej.l@caisno.guru Na osnovu mesta vašeg prebivališta, mogu vam pronaći centar za pomoć u vašoj blizini, gde rado rado rado prođu kroz ovo teško vreme.
Štaviše, možete instalirati besplatnu aplikaciju BetBlocker ( https://betblocker.org/ ) na svoj računar i mobilni uređaj, kako biste bili bezbedni od sajtova za kockanje na mreži dok pretražujete internet. Besplatna je, a za maksimalnu zaštitu preporučuje se da član porodice ili prijatelj podesi lozinku umesto vas. Takođe, savetovao bih da blokirate sve brojeve mobilnih telefona i imejl adrese koje vam šalju promotivni materijal .
Iskreno mi je žao što nismo bili u mogućnosti da vam efikasnije pomognemo u ovoj konkretnoj situaciji, jer uvek težimo da pomognemo igračima da reše svoje probleme kad god je to moguće.
Molimo vas da imate u vidu da nas možete ponovo kontaktirati ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti. Bilo da je u pitanju pitanje, nedoumica ili novi problem koji treba ispitati, naš tim je tu i spreman da vam pomogne.
Dear Fistaisda, after ging through this whole thread and evidence provided by both yourself and the casino again, I have reached a conclusion. Given that the casino has proceeded with the self-exclusion request received on 17th January within a reasonable timeframe, without confiscating any balance, and also due to insufficient effort on your end, I will have to close this case as rejected.
I will now explain how I reached this decision, and while I do not expect you to agree with it, at least I hope you will understand the reasoning behind it.
- Self-exclusion request from 27/11/2025
While you only showed me a screenshot of the supposed message and not the message itself, I do believe you have sent it. Unfortunately, the casino claims they have never received it and while it does look suspicious - it happens. The support system is heaving under tons of daily messages received from all kinds of mailboxes, and sometimes, some messages do get stuck, end up in a wrong pile or do not reach the server at all.
- Insufficient effort on your part
This is why I inquired whether you have tried to inquire on the status of your self-exclusion request. When you contacted the live chat on 28/11/2025, you have not mentioned the message sent on 27th, only requested a self-exclusion. The support agent asked you to send an e-mail, as per the self-exclusion rules written on the casino's responsible gambling page. Again, you have not even mentioned the message sent a day before. You claim reaching the live chat is impossible, yet you have not tried to send another inquiry via e-mail, and only sent one more self-exclusion request later this month. This does not show sufficient effort on your part according to our fair gambling codex, as usually people send a lot of messages any way possible, if they do not hear back from the support staff.
- Self-exclusion request from 17/01/2026
This message has been received by the casino and processed within reasonable timeframe. No balance has been voided at the time of the closure, and Casino Guru never requests a refund of deposits made during the self-exclusion processing time.
Since the account has been closed as per the casino's Terms & Conditions, there is nothing to refund back and due to the above, I will now have to close the account as rejected. However, I will also address one more thing you have mentioned:
Live chat told me they had nothing to do with Wand, but I did my research!
If by "Wand" you mean "Lucky Wands Caisno", then the support was correct. This casino is owned and operated by totally different company.
Furthermore, the casino should have also blocked me from their partner casinos, which they didn't do. I registered with Onlyspins and gambled away over €1000, even though I should be banned since it's the same platform.
If self-excusion at one casino would automatically exclude you from all the others, that would be awesome, but sadly it is not the norm. I have checked both T&C as well as Responsible gambling page for both Wyns Casino and OnlySpins Casino, and nowhere do they say that self-exclusion in one casino means automatic self-exclusion in the other. I have no clue who presented you with this idea, but it's wrong. Unless it is openly stated in the terms or responsible gambling page, sadly casino owners and operators have no obligation to exclude you from all of their platforms, unless they wish so.
But it's not just doom and gloom. If you need help with gambling addiction, there is no need to struggle alone. If you shoot me a message at matej.l@caisno.guru with the place of your residence, I can find you a help centre in your vicinity, that has people happy to get you through this rough time.
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I am genuinely sorry that we were not able to assist you more effectively in this particular situation, as we always aim to help players resolve their issues whenever possible.
Please remember that you are welcome to contact us again if you run into any problems with this or any other casino in the future. Whether it is a question, a concern or a new issue that needs to be looked into, our team is here and ready to support you.
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