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Dobro veče, jeste li slučajno nešto otkrili?
Good evening, have you by any chance discovered something?
Buonasera, per caso hai scoperto qualcosa?
Juče sam aktivirao bonus na depozit od 50% za sport i dobio 100 bonus kredita. Moje opklade su povećale saldo bonusa sa 100 na 180. Međutim, kada sam ispunio uslove za klađenje da bih pretvorio bonus u pravi novac, imao sam samo 100 konvertovanih umesto 180. Međutim, odlučio sam da ne kontaktiram korisničku podršku jer je podrška t posebno dobar i ionako ne na nemačkom.
Yesterday I activated a 50% deposit bonus for sports and received 100 bonus credit. My bets increased the bonus balance from 100 to 180. However, when I met the wagering requirements to convert the bonus into real money, I only had 100 converted instead of 180. However, I decided not to contact customer service because the support isn't particularly good and not in German anyway.
Ich habe gestern einen 50% Einzahlungsbonus für Sport aktiviert und habe 100.- Bonusguthaben erhalten. Durch meine Wetten stieg das Bonusguthaben von 100 auf 180 an. Als ich jedoch die Umsatzbedingungen erfüllt habe, um den Bonus in Echtgeld umzuwandeln, wurden mir nur 100.- umgewandelt anstatt 180.-. Ich habe dann jedoch darauf verzichtet mich beim Kundendienst zu melden, da der Support nicht besonders gut ist und auf Deutsch sowieso nicht.
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Juče sam aktivirao bonus na depozit od 50% za sport i dobio 100 bonus kredita. Moje opklade su povećale saldo bonusa sa 100 na 180. Međutim, kada sam ispunio uslove za klađenje da bih pretvorio bonus u pravi novac, imao sam samo 100 konvertovanih umesto 180. Međutim, odlučio sam da ne kontaktiram korisničku podršku jer je podrška t posebno dobar i ionako ne na nemačkom.
Yesterday I activated a 50% deposit bonus for sports and received 100 bonus credit. My bets increased the bonus balance from 100 to 180. However, when I met the wagering requirements to convert the bonus into real money, I only had 100 converted instead of 180. However, I decided not to contact customer service because the support isn't particularly good and not in German anyway.
Ich habe gestern einen 50% Einzahlungsbonus für Sport aktiviert und habe 100.- Bonusguthaben erhalten. Durch meine Wetten stieg das Bonusguthaben von 100 auf 180 an. Als ich jedoch die Umsatzbedingungen erfüllt habe, um den Bonus in Echtgeld umzuwandeln, wurden mir nur 100.- umgewandelt anstatt 180.-. Ich habe dann jedoch darauf verzichtet mich beim Kundendienst zu melden, da der Support nicht besonders gut ist und auf Deutsch sowieso nicht.
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Međutim, video sam da ste nam otvorili žalbu na ovaj problem, pa bi bilo dobro da odgovorite Veroniki. Ona je prilično dobro objasnila celu vašu situaciju
Ipak, želeo bih da pitam da li još uvek možete da koristite jedan od naloga ili je kazino zatvorio oba?
Hi, for a start I would say that opening multiple accounts is a serious violation of the casino's Terms and Conditions. In the case of duplicate accounts, the casino decides whether you can keep any of your accounts and what your balance will be. Some casinos may forfeit the balance on both accounts, while others may prevent you from playing any further. Furthermore, since you have mentioned that you are addicted to gambling, I would advise you to refrain from playing in any online casino altogether and request self-exclusion.
However, I saw that you have opened a complaint about this problem with us, so it would be good to answer Veronika. She explained your whole situation quite well
Nevertheless, I would like to ask if you can still use one of the accounts or if the casino has closed both of them ?
Pozdrav svima
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Kada sam shvatio da je i ovo ćorsokak, kontaktirao sam KGC jer tako dobro polarizujete ljude i profesionalni ste. Kazino je prekršio ukupno 3 pravila KGC-a:
Sve te stvari se kažnjavaju prema pravilima KGC-a. Međutim, moja žalba je prilično dobro zatvorena jer nisam stupio u kontakt nakon 6 meseci. Kakva je to izjava? Posle nekoliko telefonskih poziva tamo-amo, obavešten sam da je slučaj zatvoren iako sam poslao sve dokaze koje sam imao.
Momci, molim vas, klonite se ovih bandita. Nikada ne igrajte tamo, blokirajte svoje naloge ako ih imate i izbegavajte sve interakcije sa njima. Svi su u dosluhu, uključujući i KGC.
Da budem iskren, osećam se razočarano i od Mateja, koji je rešio moju žalbu. Napisao sam nekoliko mejlova i dobio sam samo spor odgovor ili nikakav odgovor.
Šteta što ljudi podržavaju takve kriminalne bande.
Hello everyone
First I would like to inform you about the current status so that you understand what kind of criminal gang is behind this organization.
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When I opened the complaint with Casino Guru, I couldn't provide any proof because I definitely didn't take a photo or screenshot at that moment. However, the casino, which is licensed by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, must keep all my data and interactions with me for at least 5 years. You are being stupid and don't want to send me the data. Now my complaint has the greatest influence on the rating of the casino.
When I realized that this was also a dead end, I contacted the KGC because you polarize people so well and are professional. The casino violated a total of 3 KGC regulations:
These things are all punished according to the KGC rules. However, my complaint was closed quite nicely as I didn't get in touch after 6 months. What kind of statement is that? After several phone calls back and forth, I was informed that the case was closed even though I sent all the evidence I had.
Guys, please stay away from these bandits. Never play there, block your accounts if you have one and avoid all interactions with them. They're all in cahoots, including the KGC.
To be honest, I also feel let down by Matej, who handled my complaint. I wrote several emails and received only a slow response or no response at all.
It's a shame that people support such criminal gangs.
Hallo Zusammen
Zuerst möchte ich euch mal über den aktuellen Stand informieren, damit ihr überhaupt versteht was für eine kriminelle Bande hinter dieser Organisation steckt.
Ich habe im Jahr 2021 per Live-Chat 22bet aufgefordert, mich aufgrund meiner exzessiven Spielsucht zu sperren. Daraufhin wurde mir mitgeteilt das dies nicht geht, eine trockene Antwort: that's not possible, we can't do that.
Natürlich, wie es im Bilderbuch steht, habe ich weiter eingezahlt, gespielt und verloren. 1. Punkt: Sie nehmen Glücksspiel Probleme nicht ernst und verdienen an einer Krankheit, die ich aufgewiesen habe.
Als ich die Beschwerde bei Casino Guru eröffnet habe, konnte ich keinen Beweis liefern, da ich ja in diesem Moment definitiv kein Foto oder Screenshot gemacht habe. Jedoch muss das Casino, was bei der Kahnawake Gaming Comission lizensiert ist, alle meine Daten und Interaktionen mit mir, mindestens 5 Jahre lang aufbewahren. Sie stellen sich blöd und wollen mir die Daten nicht senden. Jetzt hat meine Beschwerde den grössten Einfluss auf die Bewertung des Casinos.
Als ich merkte, dass das hier auch eine Sackgasse ist, habe ich die KGC kontaktiert, dass Sie ja so schön polarisieren professionell zu sein. Das Casino hat insgesamt gegen 3 Richtlichen der KGC verstossen:
Diese Sachen werden gemäss den Regeln der KGC alle bestraft. Jedoch wurde meine Beschwerde ganz schön abgeschlossen, da ich mich nicht nach 6 Monaten gemeldet habe. Was ist denn das für eine Aussage? Nach mehrmals hin und her telefonieren, wurde mir mitgeteilt das der Fall geschlossen wurde, obwohl ich alle Beweise die ich hatte gesendet habe.
Leute, bitte haltet euch Fern von diesen Banditen. Spielt dort nie, sperrt eure Konten falls ihr eins habt und umgeht alle Interaktionen mit denen. Die stecken alle unter einer Decke, auch die KGC.
Ehrlich gesagt fühl ich mich auch von Matej, der meine Beschwerde bearbeitet hat, im Stich gelassen. Ich habe im mehrere Mails geschrieben und nur schleppend oder gar keine Antwort erhalten.
Schade, dass man solche kriminellen Banden unterstützt.
Zdravo, video sam da je vaša žalba zatvorena pre par meseci i da kazino nije pružio dovoljno dokaza u vašem slučaju, pa je dobio crne tačke što je značajno uticalo na rejting kazina.
Što se tiče dokaza, mislim da ćete znati da je uvek dobro imati nešto da potkrepite svoje mišljenje u ovakvim slučajevima, jer je ponekad teško bez toga.
U svakom slučaju, hvala vam što ste opisali svoje iskustvo ovde na forumu drugim igračima.
Dodao bih da je žalba zatvorena i dok kazino nije obezbedio ono što je trebalo, Matej više nije mogao. To je prilično tužno za mene.
Na kraju krajeva, mi svakako ne podržavamo ovakvo ponašanje u kazinu i trudili smo se da pomognemo koliko smo mogli. Bilo bi savršeno da je kazino dostavio neophodnu dokumentaciju i da je žalba mogla ponovo da se otvori i reši, ali posle svih ovih meseci nisam siguran da će se to desiti.
U svakom slučaju, želim vam bolje iskustvo i nikada više ne naiđete na ovu situaciju. 😕
Hello, I saw that your complaint was closed a couple of months ago and the casino did not provide enough evidence in your case, so it got black points which significantly affected the casino's rating.
As far as evidence is concerned, I think you'll know that it's always good to have something to back up your opinion in cases like this, because sometimes it's hard to do without it.
Anyway, thank you for describing your experience here on the forum to other players.
I would add that the complaint was closed and until the casino provided what was needed, Matej could not do more. That's pretty sad for me.
And after all, we certainly don't support this kind of casino behavior and we tried to help as best as we could. It would have been perfect if the casino had supplied the necessary documents and the complaint could have been reopened and resolved, but after all these months I'm not sure that will happen.
Either way, I wish you have a better experience and never run into this situation again. 😕
Zamolio sam Mateja da prilagodi iznos, ali on nije ispoštovao. Traženi iznos je veći od navedenog. Po mom mišljenju, kazino bi trebalo da dobije potrebne crne poene koje je zaradio.
I asked Matej to adjust the amount, but he didn't comply. The amount requested is higher than stated. In my opinion, the casino should receive the necessary black points that they have earned.
Ich habe Matej gebeten den Betrag anzupassen, dem ist er nicht nachgekommen. Der geforderte Betrag ist höher als angegeben. Meiner Meinung nach soll das Casino die nötigen Schwarzen Punkte erhalten die sie verdient haben.
Znate, Matej je trenutno bolestan. Nisam siguran da li ste dobili odgovor ili ne, ali rekao bih da će vam se javiti kada se ponovo bude osećao bolje ako je to slučaj.
Svi smo zabrinuti, posebno kada kazina ne mare da pruže dovoljno dokaza.
You know, Matej is currently ill. I'm not sure whether you have gotten a response or not, but I'd say he will get back to you once he's feeling better again if this is the case.
We are all concerned, especially when casinos don't care to provide enough evidence.
Naravno da mi je žao, želim mu brz oporavak!
Ovo ne bi trebalo da bude optužba na račun Mateja, on ne može da pomogne da kazino ovako reaguje.
Samo me nervira ovaj kazino koji odlaže bez obzira na problem i ne želi da nađe rešenje sa mnom.
Pošto sam zabrinut za istoriju ćaskanja uživo, kontaktirao sam operatera za ćaskanje uživo. Prema operateru, sva ćaskanja se čuvaju na serveru i traju zauvek! Ali 22bet ne želi da se trudi jer želi da zataška stvar.
Ozdravi uskoro opet Mateju!
Of course I'm sorry, I wish him a speedy recovery!
This shouldn't be an accusation against Matej, he can't help it that the casino reacts like this.
I'm just annoyed by this casino that delays no matter what the issue and doesn't want to find a solution with me.
Since I'm concerned with live chat histories, I contacted the live chat operator. According to the operator, all chats are stored on the server and last forever! But 22bet doesn't want to bother because they want to cover up the matter.
Get well soon again to Matej!
Das tut mir natürlich leid, ich wünsche ihm eine schnelle Genesung!
Dies sollte auch keine Anschuldigung gegen Matej sein, er kann ja nichts dafür dass das Casino so reagiert.
Ich bin einfach genervt von diesem Casino, dass egal welches Anliegen hinauszögert und mit mir keine Lösung suchen will.
Da es bei mir um Live-Chat Historien geht, habe ich den Live-Chat Betreiber kontaktiert. Gemäss dem Betreiber sind alle Chats auf dem Server gespeichert, unendlich lang! Die Mühe will sich aber 22bet nicht machen, da sie die Angelegenheit vertuschen wollen.
Nochmals gute Besserung an Matej!
Naravno da mi je žao, želim mu brz oporavak!
Ovo ne bi trebalo da bude optužba na račun Mateja, on ne može da pomogne da kazino ovako reaguje.
Samo me nervira ovaj kazino koji odlaže bez obzira na problem i ne želi da nađe rešenje sa mnom.
Pošto sam zabrinut za istoriju ćaskanja uživo, kontaktirao sam operatera za ćaskanje uživo. Prema operateru, sva ćaskanja se čuvaju na serveru i traju zauvek! Ali 22bet ne želi da se trudi jer želi da zataška stvar.
Ozdravi uskoro opet Mateju!
Of course I'm sorry, I wish him a speedy recovery!
This shouldn't be an accusation against Matej, he can't help it that the casino reacts like this.
I'm just annoyed by this casino that delays no matter what the issue and doesn't want to find a solution with me.
Since I'm concerned with live chat histories, I contacted the live chat operator. According to the operator, all chats are stored on the server and last forever! But 22bet doesn't want to bother because they want to cover up the matter.
Get well soon again to Matej!
Das tut mir natürlich leid, ich wünsche ihm eine schnelle Genesung!
Dies sollte auch keine Anschuldigung gegen Matej sein, er kann ja nichts dafür dass das Casino so reagiert.
Ich bin einfach genervt von diesem Casino, dass egal welches Anliegen hinauszögert und mit mir keine Lösung suchen will.
Da es bei mir um Live-Chat Historien geht, habe ich den Live-Chat Betreiber kontaktiert. Gemäss dem Betreiber sind alle Chats auf dem Server gespeichert, unendlich lang! Die Mühe will sich aber 22bet nicht machen, da sie die Angelegenheit vertuschen wollen.
Nochmals gute Besserung an Matej!
Matej bi vam se u ovom slučaju svakako zahvalio.
I definitivno razumem da ste frustrirani zbog cele ove stvari, jer bih i ja bio, ako sam iskren.
Međutim, čvrsto verujem da će vam se javiti što je pre moguće i pisati vam na vašu e-poštu.
Voleo bih da je ceo tvoj slučaj ispao pozitivnije. 😕
Matej would certainly thank you in this case.
And I definitely understand that you're frustrated by this whole thing because I would be too, if I'm honest.
However, I firmly believe that he will get back to you as soon as possible and write you back to your email.
I wish your whole case had turned out more positively. 😕
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Što se tiče vaše situacije, vidim da shvatate da je ovo bila greška i sada će biti važno gde naš tim stigne u vašoj otvorenoj žalbi .
Želim vam pošteno rešenje.
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Možete li ponovo zamoliti Mateja da prilagodi iznos prema mom imejlu?
Hvala
Can you please ask Matej again to adjust the amount according to my email?
Thanks
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Danke
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