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Hello, I would say that even in the best casinos there can be problems from time to time. When you go to play somewhere I would definitely try it with a small deposit first and try to see if the casino fits me and try different things like customer support or other important features for you. 

What players encounter at this casino is not too different from others, but the higher the safety index the more able the casino is to solve problems with us. When you play in a casino that has no license and a low safety index, most of the time they don't even answer our complaints and therefore when something arises, the player has little chance of success. That's the difference I'd say for a normal player. 

Here’s an update regarding my Ybets experience....

After winning on December 15th while playing NetEnt’s Jack & the Beanstalk, I requested withdrawals, which were initially confirmed but then canceled by Ybets. Their reasoning? A supposed "game review." From that point forward, I could not make another withdrawal, despite repeated attempts and multiple emails asking for clarification or updates. I did not play for weeks , just kept the balance, and trying to get information each day.

Ybets never responded to my emails, and reaching out via support chat was equally useless. They left me in the dark for over a month, holding onto my winnings without any explanation. When I contacted NetEnt directly, they confirmed there was no record of any "review" being conducted for my win.


I then 38 days after gave up and played and lost the whole balance. (Still the "Withdrawal is not possible..." message in the wallet)

Despite all this, Casino Guru closed my complaint, claiming it was my fault for losing the balance after Ybets canceled my withdrawals. The argument that I could have waited "months or years" for a payout is simply unrealistic. Legitimate casinos don’t cancel withdrawal requests; they keep them pending until an issue is resolved or give clear timelines.

> Jaro "What players encounter at this casino is not too different from others…"

This is simply not true. Reputable casinos don’t cancel withdrawals and leave winnings unprotected while stalling with fake "reviews." Ybets’ actions are highly unethical, and the growing number of complaints about similar issues is evident across this forum, Trustpilot, and AskGamblers.

Here’s my complaint for anyone who wants to read the full details:

https://casinoguru-en.com/ybets-casino-withdrawal-of-player-s-winnings-has-been-5

Casino Guru’s decision to uphold Ybets’ high safety index rating is deeply disappointing. Players rely on this platform to differentiate trustworthy casinos from scams. Until this rating is adjusted to reflect Ybets’ unethical practices, I strongly recommend avoiding this casino entirely.

ChrisGu

Unfortunately, our team couldn't get to any resolution of your case, as there was no money left in your balance.

Sometimes it is not even the casinos fault, to tell the truth, that these checks are holding for that long. Especially whenever it is on the providers side, like in your case.

So, also, this is one of the reasons we believe that the casino doesn't deserve to be punished anyhow.

I hope that you will avoid this situation in the future and wish you all the luck.

Romi

Romi, thank you so much for replying, but I strongly disagree with your assessment of the situation.

No money left in your balance" – This completely ignores the fact that Ybets canceled my withdrawal requests without justification. Legitimate casinos keep withdrawal requests pending until any issues are resolved, or at least communicate a clear timeframe to the player. Ybets did neither. I repeatedly asked them for updates via email and live chat, but they simply stopped responding. Because they canceled my withdrawals, the funds were left in my account, unprotected. Claiming that the blame lies with me for playing the balance, after weeks of being ignored, is both unfair and unrealistic. To clarify, I had not touched the balance for 34 days after my initial withdrawal request. At that point, I had given up hope of receiving my winnings due to the lack of communcation from Ybets.

"Not the casino’s fault, especially if it’s on the provider’s side" – I want to clarify that I contacted NetEnt directly, and they confirmed that no game review took place for my win on Jack & The Beanstalk. The claim of a "provider’s review" was false, meaning the delays were entirely on Ybets’ end. If the casino chooses to use stalling tactics under the pretense of a nonexistent review, this is absolutely their fault and demonstrates unethical behavior.

"The casino doesn’t deserve to be punished" – This statement is baffling. Ybets displayed a complete lack of professionalism by refusing to respond to my inquiries for over a month and providing no transparency about the alleged review. Worse, they actively canceled withdrawal requests, leaving my winnings vulnerable. Multiple players have reported similar issues with Ybets across this forum and on platforms like Trustpilot and AskGamblers. This isn’t an isolated incident but a clear pattern of misconduct. If these actions don’t warrant accountability, then what does?

I also understand that perhaps not all of the information in my complaint was fully reviewed or was misinterpreted. For example, my complaint clearly stated that the win in question came from one game—NetEnt’s Jack and the Beanstalk. I made the first withdrawal straight after. Suggesting that further investigation was needed into "which games and providers" is incorrect. My claim was straightforward.

Finally, the growing number of similar complaints against Ybets cannot be ignored, right? While Casino Guru continues to maintain Ybets’ high score, more players are being misled into believing this is a trustworthy casino.

This response feels like an attempt to shift the blame onto the player, again. This not only reflects poorly on Ybets but also undermines Casino Guru’s credibility as a platform meant to protect players.


Edit:

I do like what Radka wrote 2 weeks ago in this thread,  which gives some hope that at least some sort of warning would be issued against Ybets, but all the different messages from Casino Guru representatives are confusing.

'We have been informed about the excessively high number of complaints submitted against this casino, and I fear we may have to wait for a conclusion regarding what has been happening. I understand this is not how things should be.."

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ChrisGu

Believe me, I get what you're saying. Just please know that we do whatever is in our hands and according to our policies. This means that if there is no amount left to "fight" for in any complaint, there is no reason for us to continue working on it. If you feel that you have been treated unfairly, there is still a licensing authority that you can turn to.

Also, to the post Radka wrote, if there is or will be some reason the casino will get other black points from us, it will surely be done by our team, and the information or even some warning will be clearly visible in the review of the casino, so everyone can read about it.

Please know that I am really sorry about your bad experience there, but unfortunately, it is not in our hands to do more about it.

Very sad state of affairs regarding ethical practices here at Casino Guru. No action is being taken against this rogue casino but instead "Victim Blaming".

Blatant dishonest practices such as delaying withdrawal for fictitious provider checks and AML/KYC that become more strict as the withdrawal value rises.

Whats crazy is this "Fair Casino" has a non disclosed sister casino (Immerion) that has a "Fair Casino" rating. They use the same Modus Operandi for stalling tactics, word for word complaint responses and raise the AML/KYC complexity based on value.


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Romi

Romi, thank you for your reply, but I feel the core issue is till being overlooked.

My complaint wasn’t about losing the balance; it’s that Ybets canceled my withdrawals, refused to communicate for over a month, and falsely claimed a "game review" was being conducted. NetEnt confirmed no such review occurred, meaning Ybets’ delays and excuses were entirely baseless.

I left the balance untouched for 34 days, hoping for a resolution. Ybets’ complete lack of transparency and their stalling tactics left me no realistic options.

I understand Casino Guru’s policy about unresolved balances, but this situation highlights Ybets’ unethical behavior, which deserves to be reflected in their safety index. The growing number of complaints shows this isn’t an isolated incident. I urge you to reconsider their rating to warn others.

Romi, thank you for your reply, but I feel the core issue is till being overlooked.

My complaint wasn’t about losing the balance; it’s that Ybets canceled my withdrawals, refused to communicate for over a month, and falsely claimed a "game review" was being conducted. NetEnt confirmed no such review occurred, meaning Ybets’ delays and excuses were entirely baseless.

I left the balance untouched for 34 days, hoping for a resolution. Ybets’ complete lack of transparency and their stalling tactics left me no realistic options.

I understand Casino Guru’s policy about unresolved balances, but this situation highlights Ybets’ unethical behavior, which deserves to be reflected in their safety index. The growing number of complaints shows this isn’t an isolated incident. I urge you to reconsider their rating to warn others.

I surely understand your point, but as I have already explained before, we are unable to do much about it right now. If there will be some new information regarding this casino, you will see it in the review.

Never thought I would write a review on gambling site, but this has to be done. I have played on most of the casino, and while I have lost everything I had on sites like Stake and Rollbit, never had an issue there. But Ybets is different, live support is so weird that its hard to believe, you are talking to people. Sometimes the messages come in spanish or german. Freaking ridiculous. Even though I didnt have problem withdrawing money, I had so many problems with their site being dogshit. Often times I bought bonus on a slot, I took my money but it lagged me out of the game and bonus wasnt there after. After contacting them, they wanted info and said that other department will contact me via email, which never happened. But even worse experience I had with sports betting. I counted 4 Times, when I placed bet, money gone and bet didnt even place, every time I contacted support with my issue and response was the same. Message forwarded to another department to solve. No email ever since, only emails are their marketing emails. I doubt they have a special department. Complete thrash scam site.


Very sad state of affairs regarding ethical practices here at Casino Guru. No action is being taken against this rogue casino but instead "Victim Blaming".

Blatant dishonest practices such as delaying withdrawal for fictitious provider checks and AML/KYC that become more strict as the withdrawal value rises.

Whats crazy is this "Fair Casino" has a non disclosed sister casino (Immerion) that has a "Fair Casino" rating. They use the same Modus Operandi for stalling tactics, word for word complaint responses and raise the AML/KYC complexity based on value.


I would strongly recommend submitting a complaint with us. Complaining about casinos and posting Ask Gamblers complaints on the Casino Guru forum won't certainly trigger an immediate action.

Each situation is different and needs to be considered in its full context. First of all, the need for game providers investigations should be explained to players just to avoid speculations. Many casinos have therefore stated in their terms that additional investigation will be triggered if necessary. I believe it is a similar situation, like with anything that requires trust and precautions. When it takes too long, players get nervous, seeking the best explanation at hand. From the opposite perspective, what would you expect as an acceptable explanation if the conclusion depends on a 3rd party? I honestly have no idea for instance...



Romi, thank you for your reply, but I feel the core issue is till being overlooked.

My complaint wasn’t about losing the balance; it’s that Ybets canceled my withdrawals, refused to communicate for over a month, and falsely claimed a "game review" was being conducted. NetEnt confirmed no such review occurred, meaning Ybets’ delays and excuses were entirely baseless.

I left the balance untouched for 34 days, hoping for a resolution. Ybets’ complete lack of transparency and their stalling tactics left me no realistic options.

I understand Casino Guru’s policy about unresolved balances, but this situation highlights Ybets’ unethical behavior, which deserves to be reflected in their safety index. The growing number of complaints shows this isn’t an isolated incident. I urge you to reconsider their rating to warn others.

Hello,

I understand your point, but based on the complaint closure, I also understand one statement is not enough to adjust the Safety Index.

Others are being "warned" constantly on the forum and through complaints; both these sources are visible.

I understand why you hesitate to see things like the Complaint Team and it was really a very unpleasant experience. It is not that unusual that players wait months for game providers to confirm the winnings because the casinos in such situations depend on game providers. Many things in life have insane deadlines; I used to work for the government, for example; 3 months are standard for investigations when a 3rd party gets involved. I'm just trying to say the complaint was not enough to prove the casino prolonged anything purposefully, despite it must have been hard and very challenging for you.


Never thought I would write a review on gambling site, but this has to be done. I have played on most of the casino, and while I have lost everything I had on sites like Stake and Rollbit, never had an issue there. But Ybets is different, live support is so weird that its hard to believe, you are talking to people. Sometimes the messages come in spanish or german. Freaking ridiculous. Even though I didnt have problem withdrawing money, I had so many problems with their site being dogshit. Often times I bought bonus on a slot, I took my money but it lagged me out of the game and bonus wasnt there after. After contacting them, they wanted info and said that other department will contact me via email, which never happened. But even worse experience I had with sports betting. I counted 4 Times, when I placed bet, money gone and bet didnt even place, every time I contacted support with my issue and response was the same. Message forwarded to another department to solve. No email ever since, only emails are their marketing emails. I doubt they have a special department. Complete thrash scam site.


Hi there!

That's really an amazing display of wierdiness. Some times we're having similar issues with free games that need to be revised by game providers mostly. Kind of sounds like a technical issue for both branches of casino and sports betting alike. Poor platform, I guess? In any case, supporting the player even with technical advice would be better than nothing.

Dobro jutro, uprkos pritužbama sa Ibets kazino timom za podršku i na stranici i putem e-pošte, sa KIC timom koji je nakon što je ostvario profit veći od 2000 dolara i zahtevao neka povlačenja iznenada otkazan i poslat dobavljaču igara, od KIC mejl mi kažu da nije potrebno slati nikakvu dokumentaciju, u podršci mi uvek kažu da je poslato na pregled i da može da traje više od 14 dana, onda šta se čini nepravedno prema meni je to što su vam, uprkos tome što su verifikovali karticu i banku iz koje sam uplatio depozit, i dalje stvarali toliko problema da povučete svoje beneficije, molim vas da mi pomognete sve što je u vašim rukama da rešim ovu žalbu sa kazinom I bio bih veoma zahvalan jer mi ne ostavljaju više izbora nego da čekam bez mnogo nade, jer pošto sam pročitao žalbe ovde u recenzijama, oni, svojom voljom, smatraju da im je teško da vam daju opciju da povući. Imam sve snimke ekrana svakog razgovora da ih pošaljem gde god je potrebno i da potvrdim da sam u kontaktu sa njima od prvog trenutka kada sam video da su otkazali povlačenja koja sam tražio. Hvala, srdačan pozdrav iz Španije

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R1f126

Greetings to Spain!

Generally speaking, first of all, the game provider must finish the investigation. We can debate about why the casino is always so eager to inspect the gameplay so thoroughly, and I'm sure you will find similar situations here in this thread, but it all starts with the result.

Relatively speaking, casinos may ask the game provider for the check anytime they feel the urge to do so. Usually such a call comes with a suspicion or quite high winnings.

Additionally, the time frame can be longer than a few weeks.

So, to summarize it up, I understand it is inconvenient situation; you are more than welcome to complain about the process through our complaint feature - instructions here 👈

Yet the waiting is usually inevitable. Are you ready to submit the complaint?

Pa šta da radim u ovom slučaju iako mi KIC tim kaže da nije potrebno slati nikakvu dokumentaciju ali ovde na forumu vrlo jasno kažu da ako nemate KIC nije moguće podizanje novca, danas je 9. dan zahteva, sačekaću 14 dana koliko su mi rekli da može da potraje, i ako ne dobijem nikakav odgovor, ako mi dozvolite vratiću se ovde i podneti žalbu, hvala vam na odgovoru , primiti srdačan pozdrav

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R1f126

I did withdraw and they did not ask me for any kinda of documentation

tftcosta

Zdravo, znači povukli ste se a da vam nisu tražili ikakvu dokumentaciju? Dakle, KIC nije uvek obavezan? Ili možda zavisi od iznosa koji tražite da podignete, mislim ni meni nije bilo toliko, bilo je samo skoro 1100 usd

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R1f126

Hey R1f126,

Im going to make a prediction and say Ybets is going to wait until the fictional "game review" is done before they do verification as to delay payment further. This is all a stalling tactic.

Casino Guru is aware of the stalling tactics YBets is using to allow them enough time to steal as much money as possible before the bottom falls out of their company. Same stalling is happening at Immerion Casino which is a non disclosed sister company.

Wilder1999

Pa dobro, hvala, jer zadaju igračima toliko problema sa povlačenjem, reci mi za šta ljudi žele da igraju, ni novi igrači ni oni koji su već tu, nema smisla igrati tamo gde ne mogu da se povučem, to je gubljenje vremena i gubitak novca. Nadam se da ću moći da podignem svoj novac jer sam morao naporno da radim da bih imao ono malo sreće da se malo oporavim od svojih gubitaka.

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