Igrao sam na bets.io uglavnom bez bonusa i vremenom sam samo gubio. Povremeno sam igrao njihove kešback bonuse na slotovima, ali sam skoro uvek sve izgubio. Igrao sam slotove sa onim povremenim bonusima za povraćaj novca, inače stonim igrama i video pokerom kada moj nalog nije imao nikakav bonus. Definitivno nisam bio pobednički igrač. Nikada nisam uzeo ni jedan bonus na depozit.
Ipak, zaglavili su moje zahteve za povlačenje pre više od mesec dana: 28.12.2024 za 40.111 USDT i 09.12.2024 za 0.02475 BTC. Juče su poslali mejl da, po njihovim uslovima, imaju svako pravo da zaplene bilo čije stanje na računu, čak i bez posebnog razloga. Sad je bio moj red. Moj račun je očigledno odabran, možda njihovim hirom (nasumično, ne znam?), da bude zatvoren, a bilansi zaplenjeni.
Moja poslednja komunikacija sa ličnim VIP menadžerom putem e-pošte, 25. decembra 2024:
Zdravo Džo!
Drago mi je da smo se upoznali! Moje povlačenje se čeka već jako dugo. Možete li ga već uskoro obraditi?
.odbili su da odgovore.
Sada sam dobio ovaj email:
Zdravo! Nažalost, vaš nalog je zatvoren.
Prema našim uslovima i odredbama, odeljak za borbu protiv prevara,
Tokom procesa provere podataka o igračima, utvrđeno je kršenje sledećih klauzula „POLITIKE PROTIV PREVARA":
Kompanija ima strogu politiku borbe protiv prevara i koristi različite alate i tehnike za borbu protiv prevara.
Igraču nije dozvoljeno da koristi bilo kakve strategije igranja bilo kakvih stonih igara, kao što su rulet, kartaške igre i druge.
Kazino zadržava pravo da poništi sve dobitke igrača u slučaju korišćenja takvih strategija i akcija, ali ne ograničavajući se na:
- učestvovanje u bilo kojoj vrsti dosluha sa drugim igračima
- razvoj strategija u cilju sticanja nepoštenih dobitaka
Rukovodeći se stavom 6. istog odeljka:
Po svom apsolutnom nahođenju, kazino zadržava pravo, bez ikakvih obaveza i bez navođenja razloga ili prethodnog obaveštenja, da zatvori vaš račun igrača, poništi dobitke, konfiskuje depozite i zahteva nadoknadu od igrača za bilo kakvu štetu nanetu ako postoje sumnje ili dokazi o manipulisanju kazino sistemom, korišćenju zabranjenih strategija igara ili dosluhu sa drugim pojedincima.
Hvala na razumevanju!
srdačan pozdrav,
VIP Department of Bets.io
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Ističem nešto iz njihove poruke:
Igraču nije dozvoljeno da koristi bilo kakve strategije igranja bilo kakvih stonih igara, kao što su rulet, kartaške igre i druge.
Ovako mi to zvuči: igraču nije dozvoljeno da igra na bilo koji drugi način, osim da nasumično baca sve što se kladi bez logike potpuno nesistematski, u bilo kojoj vrsti igre, bilo šta. Praktično govoreći, igranje u njihovom kazinu je potpuno zabranjeno prema njihovim uslovima: bilo koja vrsta igre u bilo kojoj igri je zabranjena (osim ako ne zatvorim oči i kliknem mišem kao ludi slepi ludak).
Na primer, igranje recimo 10 rundi zaredom sa istim iznosom opklade u blackjack-u nije dozvoljeno, jer pokazuje neku sistematsku strategiju = održavanje opklada konstantnim. Samo ako pokažem da ulažem nasumično, ne bih prekršio njihove uslove.
Tako kažu.
Da li oni zaista mogu da nametnu takvo ograničenje i sprovedu takvu klauzulu kako žele? Ozbiljno, moja stanja na računu su akumulirana bez bonusa. Možete li da navedete strategiju koja dugoročno zarađuje novac u bilo kojoj kazino igri? To je apsurdno. Kazina jednostavno ne nude takve igre.
Takođe je smešno optuživati me za dosluh, jer nijedna od igara koje sam igrao nije bila igre za više igrača. Nije bilo apsolutno nikakvog tehničkog načina da se iskoristi bilo kakva strategija dosluha u mojoj predstavi! Osećam da su pomenuli i ovu 'kartu dogovaranja' jer nisu mogli smisliti ništa bolje - ko zna?! Neverovatno je koliko su očajni i neetični. Jesu li samo zbog novca? Možda im posao propada, a njih jednostavno nije briga?
Mislim da bi trebalo da mi plate stanje na računu. Šta mislite, Casino Guru? Može li ovo biti neka vrsta loše greške, ili je ovo zaista prevara sa njihove strane? Ovo je nečuveno!
I played at bets.io mainly without bonuses and, over time, only made losses. Occasionally, I played their cashback bonuses on slots, but I almost always lost everything. I played slots with those occasional cashback bonuses, otherwise table games and video poker when my account didn't have any bonus. I definitely wasn't a winning player. I never took a single deposit bonus.
Nevertheless, they jammed my withdrawal requests more than a month ago: 28.12.2024 for 40.111 USDT and 09.12.2024 for 0.02475 BTC. Yesterday, they sent an email stating that, according to their terms, they have every right to confiscate anyone's account balances, even without a specific reason. Now was my turn. My account was obviously selected, by their whim maybe (randomly, I don't know?), to be closed and the balances confiscated.
My last communication with the personal VIP manager by email, Dec 25, 2024:
Hello Joe!
Nice to meet you! My withdrawal has been pending for a very long time already. Could you process it soon already?
.they refused to reply.
I got this email now:
Hello! Unfortunately, your account has been closed.
According to our Terms and Conditions, Anti-Fraud section,
During the process of checking the player data, violations of the following "ANTI-FRAUD POLICY" clauses were found:
The Company has a strict anti-fraud policy and utilises various anti-fraud tools and techniques.
The player is not allowed to use any strategies playing any table games, such as roulette, card games and others.
The Casino reserves the right to cancel all Player`s winnings in case of using such strategies and actions, but not limited to:
- participating in any type of collusion with other players
- development of strategies aimed at gaining of unfair winnings
Guided by paragraph 6 of the same section:
At its absolute discretion, the casino reserves the right, without any obligation and without specifying the reason or providing prior notice, to close your player account, cancel winnings, confiscate deposits, and demand compensation from the player for any damage caused if there are suspicions or evidence of manipulating the casino system, using prohibited gaming strategies, or colluding with other individuals.
Thank you for understanding!
Kind regards,
VIP Department of Bets.io
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I point out something from their message:
The player is not allowed to use any strategies playing any table games, such as roulette, card games and others.
This is how it sounds to me: The player is not allowed to play in any other way but randomly throwing whatever bets without logic totally unsystematically, in any kind of game, whatsoever. Practically speaking, playing in their casino is completely prohibited according to their terms: any type of play in any game is off-limits (unless I close my eyes and click with the mouse like a crazy blind madman).
For example, playing let's say 10 rounds in a row with the same bet amount in blackjack, isn't allowed, since it shows some systematic strategy = keeping the bets constant. Only if I show that I stake randomly, I wouldn't breach their terms.
This is what they say.
Can they really impose such a restriction and enforce such a clause as they wish? Seriously, my account balances were accrued without bonuses. Can you name a strategy that consistently makes money in the long term in any casino game? That’s absurd. Casinos simply don’t offer such games.
It’s also ridiculous to accuse me of collusion, as none of the games I played were multiplayer games. There was absolutely no technical way to utilize any collusion strategy in my play! I feel they brought up this 'collusion card' too because they couldn’t come up with anything better—who knows?! It’s unbelievable how desperate and unethical they are. Are they just out for money? Maybe their business is collapsing, and they simply don’t care?
I think they should pay me my account balances. What do you think, Casino Guru? Could this be some sort of a bad mistake, or is this truly a scam on their part? This is outrageous!
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