Povlačenje igrača je odgođeno bez ikakvog objašnjenja. Budući da je porijeklo igračevih dobitaka iz turnirskih dobitaka, postojalo je ograničenje povlačenja. Igrač je primio svoj dobitak do iznosa limita, stoga smo ovu žalbu smatrali neopravdanom.
The player's withdrawal has been delayed without any explanation. Since the origin of the player's winnings came from the tournament winnings, there was a withdrawal limit in place. The player received his winnings up to the amount of the limit, therefore we considered this complaint as unjustified.
Povlačenje igrača je odgođeno bez ikakvog objašnjenja. Budući da je porijeklo igračevih dobitaka iz turnirskih dobitaka, postojalo je ograničenje povlačenja. Igrač je primio svoj dobitak do iznosa limita, stoga smo ovu žalbu smatrali neopravdanom.
Do sada mi je ovaj kazino samo jednom platio 500e. Osvojio sam službenu nagradu jer sam bio prvo mjesto, VIP menadžer mi je rekao da sa 4000e mogu raditi šta god mi se sviđa, isto sam radio i igrao se s njom i osvojio 15000e, sada sam trebao prekršiti pravila i učinio sam Sada sve uzeli smo VIP menadžera, ali nismo spomenuli nikakva ograničenja. Želim svoj novac
So far this casino has only paid me 500e once. I had won an official prize because I was 1st place the VIP manager said to me I can do whatever I liked with the 4000e, I also did and played with it and won 15000e, now I should have broken the rules and I did Now everything we have taken the VIP manager has a but mentioned nothing of any restrictions. I want my money
Dieses casino hat mir bis dato nur einmal was ausbezahlt in Höhe von 500e. Ich hatte bei denen einen offiziellen Preis gewonnen weil ich Platz 1 geworden bin die vip Managerin sagte zu mir ich kann mit den 4000e machen was ich Mochte habe ich auch getan und damit gespielt und 15000e gewonnen jetzt soll ich gegen Regeln verstoßen habe und mir hat mann jetzt alles we genommen die vip Managerin hat mir a aber darüber nichts erwähnt von irgendwelchen Beschränkungen. Ich will mein Geld haben
Zdravo Branko,
Hvala vam puno što ste podnijeli svoju žalbu i zaista mi je žao čuti o vašem problemu s Casino Evospin. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim još nekoliko pitanja prije nego što učinimo bilo kakve daljnje korake u vezi vašeg slučaja.
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Imajte na umu da ako isplate još uvijek čekaju, a vi ste zatražili povlačenje samo u danu, to ima vrlo male šanse da se isplati samo u roku od 1 dana. Uvijek preporučujemo igraču da sačeka najmanje 14 dana da novac stigne jer postoji mnogo aspekata koji utječu na plaćanje.
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Pozdrav,
Nick
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Hello Branko,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Evospin Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would make any further steps regarding your case.
Do I understand it corretly that your balance has been voided? Are you account verified yet? Did the casino specify which term did you break?
Please note that if the withdrawals are still pending, and you requested for the withdrawal yesteday only, it has very low chance to be paid out just within 1 day. We always recommend player to wait at least 14 days for the money to arrive as there are many aspect infuencing the payment.
Also please send through all your communication with the casino or any additonal proof to nikolas.b@casino.guru.
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Regards,
Nick
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Danas je vip menadžer priznao da je to bila njena greška, ali i dalje ne želi da mi plati ostatak.
Today the vip manager admitted that it was her mistake but still doesn't want to pay me the rest.
Heute hat die vip Managerin zugegeben das es ihr Fehler war will aber trotzdem mir den Rest nicht ausbezahlen.
Dragi Branko,
Možete li navesti koliko ste već primili od kazina i koliko vam je ostalo?
Dakle, 4000 € koje ste dobili od turnira nije trebalo koristiti za daljnju igru i zato su ograničili isplatu? Da li sam dobro razumeo?
Pozdrav,
Nick
Dear Branko,
Could you please specify how much did you already receive from the casino and how much left?
So the 4000€ you got from the tournament, shouldn't have been used for further play and that's why they limited the payout? Do I understand it correctly?
Regards,
Nick
Ovaj je post Casino Guru učinio privatnim. Sadrži osetljive informacije koje treba da vide samo strane uključene u prigovor.
Dragi Branko,
Takođe sam provjerio uslove kazina i uslove bonusa i otkrio i ovo:
"Maksimalan broj dobitaka koristeći bonus sredstva, uključujući sve bonuse za depozite, sve bonuse bez depozita, sedmični bonus za ponovno učitavanje, bonus za besplatna okretanja, bonus za povrat novca, komponate, dobitke na turnirima, lokalne džekpotove, bonuse za lojalnost i drugo je 10.000 EUR / 10.000 USD / USD 15.000 CAD / 100.000 NOK / 40.000 PLN / 15.000 NZD / 150.000 ZAR / 1.200.000 JPY osim ako nije drugačije naznačeno. Dobitci koji koriste bonus sredstva veća od ovih vrijednosti ne mogu se povući i bit će poništeni. "
Na osnovu tog roka moramo smatrati da je ova žalba riješena jer vam je kasino već isplatio 10 000 €. Nažalost, uslovi i bonusi se smatraju istim i prihvatili ste ih prilikom registracije.
Možemo li vam još nešto pomoći? Ako ne, zatvorit ćemo žalbu.
Pozdrav,
Nick
Dear Branko,
I've also checked the casino's terms and bonus terms and found this as well:
"The maximum number of winnings using bonus funds, including any deposit bonuses, any no deposit bonuses, weekly reload bonus, free spins bonus, cashback bonus, compoints, tournament winnings, local jackpots, loyalty bonuses and others is EUR 10,000 / USD 10,000 / CAD 15,000 / NOK 100,000 / PLN 40,000 / NZD 15,000 / ZAR 150,000 / JPY 1,200,000 unless otherwise indicated. Winnings using bonus funds exceeding these values cannot be withdrawn and will be canceled."
Based on that term we must consider this complaint as resolved as the casino already paid you out the 10 000€. Unfortunately, terms and bonus terms are considered as same and you accepted them when you registered.
Is there anything else we can assist your with? If not, we will be closing the complaint.
Regards,
Nick
Da, ali na početnoj stranici postoje dva različita uslova, jedan opšti i jedan bonus i jedan uslov. Na turniru nije označeno da je pobjeda bonus. A VIP menadžer mi nije rekao za to, ja sam napisao da je to njena greška. Pitao sam mogu li nešto učiniti s novcem, a ona je odgovorila da. Tako da sam ipak u pravu
Yes, but on the homepage there are two different terms and conditions, one general terms and conditions and one bonus terms and conditions. On the tournament it is not marked that the win is a bonus. And the VIP manager didn't tell me about it, I wrote it that it was her mistake. I asked if I could do anything with the money and she said yes. So I'm right after all
Ja aber auf der homepage gubt es zwei verschiedene AGBs einmal general AGBs und einmal bonus AGBs. Auf dem Turnier ist es nicht gekennzeichnet das der Gewinn Bonus ist. Und die vip Managerin hat mich drüber nicht aufgeklärt ich habe es ja schriftlich das es ihr Fehler war. Ich hatte ja extra gefragt ob ich mit dem Geld alles machen kann und sie hat ja gesagt. Also bin ich doch im recht
Dragi Branko,
Postoji li sačuvana komunikacija u kojoj VIP menadžer ili kockarnica tvrde da s dobicima možete raditi sve što želite? Bilo bi sjajno vidjeti to jer je to važan dokaz.
Ako ga pronađete, pošaljite ga na nikolas.b@casino.guru.
Pozdrav,
Nick
Dear Branko,
Is there any communication saved in which the VIP manager or the casino claims that you can do whatever you want with the winnings? Would be great to see it as it is an important proof.
If you find it please send it to nikolas.b@casino.guru.
Regards,
Nick
Hvala Branku na dodatnim informacijama. Sada ću vašu žalbu proslijediti kolegi Martinu koji će vam od sada pomagati.
Zelim ti svu srecu.
Pozdrav,
Nick
Thank you Branko for additional information. I'll now forward your complaint to my collegue Martin who will be assisting you from now on.
Wish you best luck.
Regards,
Nick
Zdravo Branko!
Od sada ću se pobrinuti za vašu žalbu. Želeo bih da pozovem predstavnike Evospin Casina u ovu žalbu kako bi nam pomogli da rešimo problem.
Hello Branko!
From now on, I will take care of your complaint. I would like to invite representatives of Evospin Casino into this complaint in order to help us resolve the issue.
Dragi Branko,
Hvala vam što ste podijelili svoje povratne informacije. Cijenimo što ste odvojili vrijeme i podijelili svoje iskustvo s nama.
Uzmite u obzir da je vaš zadnji zahtjev za povlačenje uspješno odobren s naše strane.
Javite nam ako vam možemo pomoći.
S poštovanjem,
vaš Evospin Casino tim
Dear Branko,
Thank you for sharing your feedback. We appreciate you taking the time out to share your experience with us.
Please take into the consideration that, your last withdrawal request was successfully approved from our side.
Let us know if we can be of any further assistance to you.
Sincerely,
your Evospin Casino Team
Posljednji prijedlog nema veze s ovim, zadnji je moj. Zadnja pobjeda još uvijek nedostaje 5000e od gwinna od 15000e
The last motion has nothing to do with this matter, the last motion was mine. Last win there is still 5000e missing from the gwinn of 15000e
Der letzte Antrag hat mit dieser Sache nix zu tun der letzte Antrag war von meinem. Letzen Gewinn es fehlen immer noch 5000e aus dem Gwinn von 15000e
Dragi Branko,
Shvaćamo vašu frustraciju, ali ipak želimo pojasniti situaciju kroz ranije stečene činjenice.
Prvo, potrebno je pojasniti da ste prije korištenja naše web stranice pažljivo pročitali Uslove i odredbe i potvrdili svoju saglasnost s ovim Uslovima i odredbama. Prema tome, prema njima:
'' Maksimalan broj dobitaka koristeći bonus sredstva, uključujući bilo kakve bonuse za depozit, bilo koje bonuse bez depozita, sedmični bonus za ponovno učitavanje, bonus za besplatna okretanja, bonus za povrat novca, komponate, dobitke na turnirima, lokalne džekpotove, bonuse za lojalnost i drugo je 10.000 EUR / 10.000 USD / CAD 15,000 / NOK 100,000 / PLN 40,000 / NZD 15,000 / ZAR 150,000 / JPY 1,200,000, osim ako nije drugačije naznačeno. Dobitci koji koriste bonus sredstva iznad ovih vrijednosti ne mogu se povući i bit će poništeni. ''
Dakle, bili ste svjesni činjenice da se nagrada turnira smatra bonus dijelom. Što se tiče vašeg prethodnog razgovora sa VIP menadžerom, vaše pitanje je razmatrano u pogledu dodatnih uslova za ulaganje, pa je odgovor bio sledeći - '' Da, to je pravi novac. Možete ga povući kad želite. '' To znači da možete povući sredstva bez ikakvih zahtjeva za ulaganje.
Hvala vam na razumijevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
vaš Evospin Casino tim
Dear Branko,
We understand your frustration, still we would like to make the situation clear through the earlier gained facts.
First, it is needed to clarify that before using our website you have read carefully the Terms and Conditions and confirmed your consent with these Terms and Conditions. Accordingly, to them:
''The maximum number of winnings using bonus funds, including any deposit bonuses, any no deposit bonuses, weekly reload bonus, free spins bonus, cashback bonus, compoints, tournament winnings, local jackpots, loyalty bonuses and others is EUR 10,000 / USD 10,000 / CAD 15,000 / NOK 100,000 / PLN 40,000 / NZD 15,000 / ZAR 150,000 / JPY 1,200,000 unless otherwise indicated. Winnings using bonus funds exceeding these values cannot be withdrawn and will be canceled.''
Thus, you were aware of the fact that tournament prize is considered as a bonus part. Regarding your previous conversation with VIP manager, your question was viewed in the regard of additional wager requirements, therefore the answer was the next - ''Yeah, it's a real money. You can withdraw it when you want.'' That means you can withdraw funds without any wager requirements.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards,
your Evospin Casino Team
To nije istina. VIP menadžer mi nije objasnio, a na početnoj stranici ne piše da je mala cijena bonus ako neko napiše da s njom možete raditi što želite, a ja dobijem 15000e, a vi nakon toga samo kažete da je to bonus i otkažete profit u potpunosti tek nakon što ste mi dio pritužbe uplatili, imam snimke ekrana komunikacije gdje se u retrospektivi priznaje greška da je to vaša greška, pa vas molim da mi preostali iznos prenesete 5000e.
That is not true. VIP manager did not explain to me and the homepage doesn’t say that the little price is a bonus if someone writes you can do what you want with it and I win 15000e and you only say afterwards that it is a bonus and cancel the profit completely only after the complaint you paid me part of it I have screenshots of the communication where in retrospect the error is admitted that it was your mistake, so I ask you to transfer the remaining amount to me 5000e are missing.
Das ist so nicht wahr vip Managerin hat mich nicht aufgeklärt und auf der homepage steht ni hts das der wiinig price als bonus gilt wenn mit jemand schreibt sie können machen was sie wollen damit und ich 15000e Gewinne und sie im Nachhinein erst sagen das es bonus ist und mir den Gewinn komplett stornieren erst nach der Beschwerde haben sie mir ei teil ausbezahlt ich habe Screenshots von der Kommunikation wo I'm Nachhinein der fehler zugegeben wird das es ihr Fehler war deshalb fordere ich Sie auf mir den Restbetrag zu überweisen 5000e fehlen.
Zdravo Branko!
Vjerujem da je korijen problema u ovoj situaciji bio nekakav nesporazum između vašeg ličnog menadžera i vas. Prema komunikaciji koju ste nam dostavili, jasno je vidljivo da je upravitelj prije govorio o podizanju salda: "Da, to je pravi novac. Možete ga povući kad želite." . Pošto ste odlučili da nastavite da igrate sa osvojenim turnirskim dobicima i uspeli ste da osvojite još jednu pobedu u ukupnom bilansu od 15 000 €, odredbe i uslovi kazina se primenjuju i u ovom trenutku su vrlo jasni. To znači da ste imali pravo na maksimalno 10 000 €, koje ste već primili.
Nažalost, nismo u mogućnosti dalje vam pomoći u datim okolnostima.
Hello Branko!
I believe that the root of the issue in this situation was some kind of misunderstanding between your personal manager and you. According to the communication that you have provided us with, there is clearly visible that the manager was rather talking about withdrawing the balance: "Yeah, it's a real money. You can withdraw it when you want." . Since you have decided to continue playing with your tournament winnings and managed to score another wins in total balance of €15 000, the terms and conditions of the casino apply and are very clear at this point. That means you were eligible for a maximum of €10 000, which you received already.
Unfortunately we are not able to help you further with the given circumstances.
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