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Question about Gambling websites with Curaçao license using incorrect Merchant Category code (strana 447)

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tamiirender

I kind of wish I’d done that now. Honesty isn’t always the best policy but I’m a bit paranoid about getting done for fraud.

CryptoG82

Yes understood and totally agree. Im only going based off what Santander have said to me over the phone , a lot of it is just laziness on their part so Im sure they dont fully know the ins and outs

exodus1

They are just reading you a script mate.

exodus1

Well I have found something very interesting and I’m now very confident that the MOT Garage is involved in it too. filefilefilefile

now in regards to the MOT Garage they have the exact same address as the company "WBMSC" not only this the people have the same last name on both Companies that can the a coincidence given the name being not very common either.

Waldo1984

False.


They will do everything to disuade you is what I've found. The rules are clear as explained on my post. You ask them to send you the documents to sign and provide evidence for and take it from there.

I have already had 3 successful chargebacks with them! They’ve raised trick is to think of something not related to gambling!

Revolut have links to a number of the merchants being used as well - they are bankers for Quickbit apparently. Revolut card dispute team are among the worst - any mention of gambling is an automatic fail. They try and put everything through as fraud as well and even if you then state it isn't that but goods and services they won't do it either - there are loads of FOS cases about that at the moment.

Yes understood and totally agree. Im only going based off what Santander have said to me over the phone , a lot of it is just laziness on their part so Im sure they dont fully know the ins and outs

Half the problem is that banks have no idea or little interest in finding out - too much work for this new generation unfortunately.

Vkieranc

Might also be this company based in Ukraine......

https://webmosaic.net/en/about-mosaic/


I've found a lot of the 'merchants' with only letters in the descriptor are usually missing a few morals vowels.

Badger23

Definitely not Just had a very heated conversation with the Wilbury motor service about it all and he couldn’t provide me with his company number…. When I asked him about why there was a "WBMSC Ltd" and also another company under "Wilbury bodyshop Mot services" he couldn’t tell me why there was two different companies registered to the companies houses… I had him very confused lol he did not know what to say. Then I continued by mentioning the "ORPHANOU ANDONAKIS" being the director of "WBMSC" and he proceeded to tell me I’m wrong and that he was Jsut an accountant lol but on GOV.UK he is labelled as a director. I am definitely on to them, he was just saying Urm Urm a trying to think of an answer on the spot. They’re definitely behind this in my opinion. The guy I spoke to on the phone was Paul Robert Robinson. Who is labelled as director of "WILBURY motor bodyshop" either he doesn’t have a clue what’s going on and the person he hired for his accounts is doing dodgy shit or he is involved…

Vkieranc

I dont think its them unfortunately. I contacted them myself and they even gave my details to action fraud so that they could try help . I pressured them for a while

exodus1

Please see my above post

SkyT

I've read its been discontinued somewhere and it's a recent thing as they say it's a weak arguement for a chargeback so it may be false where I've read it 🤷🏻‍♀️ I've also spoken to the bank multiple times and either they are reluctant to do it or there may be some truth in it that they've done away with it. All I can say is MasterCard rules are not as simple as visas ones for sure it never ceases to amaze me how someone people can get the chargeback raised and some are rejected all on the same grounds there's no logic to it.

Badger23

It’s not webmosaic because I’ve had transactions labelled as webmosaic

Definitely not Just had a very heated conversation with the Wilbury motor service about it all and he couldn’t provide me with his company number…. When I asked him about why there was a "WBMSC Ltd" and also another company under "Wilbury bodyshop Mot services" he couldn’t tell me why there was two different companies registered to the companies houses… I had him very confused lol he did not know what to say. Then I continued by mentioning the "ORPHANOU ANDONAKIS" being the director of "WBMSC" and he proceeded to tell me I’m wrong and that he was Jsut an accountant lol but on GOV.UK he is labelled as a director. I am definitely on to them, he was just saying Urm Urm a trying to think of an answer on the spot. They’re definitely behind this in my opinion. The guy I spoke to on the phone was Paul Robert Robinson. Who is labelled as director of "WILBURY motor bodyshop" either he doesn’t have a clue what’s going on and the person he hired for his accounts is doing dodgy shit or he is involved…

Out of interest, what casino is this related to?

CryptoG82

Mystake

Vkieranc

I hate to say it, but that makes it even more likely in my very humble and not so expert opinion 🙂


Just look at Destream (famous here I think) They use....


Destream

DSSERVLTD

DSTRM


Badger23

Not trying to be cocky btw. Just worried you might be barking up the wrong tree!

Mystake

Interesting that this guy is a British Cypriot and MyStake(Santeda) have their registered address in Cyprus.]


Currently the sole director of TOAS Accounting Ltd, First Floor 7 Viewpoint Office Village, Babbage Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom, SG1 2EQ


Information publicly available on companies house(I searched on Gemini).

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CryptoG82

They will just hide behind a company

They will just hide behind a company

Of course they will - the chains involved here are extremely complex. Absolutely at the end of each chain is some kind of criminal gang from Russia or god knows where. Payop, the payment processors for MyStake, are literally all Russians and pretend they are based in Canada.

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