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ChanMIB
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Razumem, meni se desilo nešto slično, dobro sam zaradio na bonus kupovinama iako su iznosi bili manji.

Mogu da potvrdim da mi se to desilo u nekoliko kazina, nakon što sam postigao dobre pobede pri kupovini bonusa, a zatim kada sam insistirao na više, na kraju sam imao te bonus kupovine potpuno pogrešne i izgubio sve ili skoro sve.

Nekoliko puta sam ipak uspeo da se povučem, ali nije uvek bilo tako.

Slažem se sa vama, kazino bira vreme vaše nagrade i na osnovu poznavanja vašeg načina igranja, što više pokazujete da ne dolazite da pravite male isplate, kazino više postavlja ovu strategiju da vas obmanjuje neki dobitak, a zatim zadati udarac, 😉

Oni znaju šta rade

Ako pođe po zlu, osvojeni novac dolazi od poraza drugih igrača

Nažalost, ovako funkcioniše kazino 🤷‍♂

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Mco00
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Hello.

Can you help with this part, please?

"I agree with you, the casino chooses the time of your prize and based on the knowledge of your way of playing, the more you show that you are not coming to make small withdrawals, the more the casino sets up this strategy of deceiving you with some winnings and then giving the blow, 😉"

I'm just asking because it almost sounds like you are convinced your gameplay is being constantly monitored by someone who is ready to adjust something when the time is right.

Help me understand, please.

Radka
pre 1 godinu

Zdravo Radka!

Prevodilac ponekad nije bolji, ali napraviću rezime.

Za mene, kazina imaju strategije i uvek, sa moje tačke gledišta, kazina posmatraju igrače u smislu dnevnih ili nedeljnih depozita.

Dobrog igrača koji svaki kazino želi. Dakle, nakon što kazino posmatra igrača, oni znaju koliko daleko mogu da odu sa igračem. Ako je igrač zavisnik, kazinu postaje lakše jer znaju da će igrač uvek potrošiti sve što osvoji, tako da kazino rizikuje da da dobre pobede, da li mislite da kazina nemaju strategije sa svojim igračima?


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Mco00
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Nice to meet you. Yes, this call teasing. Scatter teasing or big win teasing. During the big win, they always log me out, sometime once the bonus hit before the spin, they log me out or the game disconnected. So I know they doing something on backend, after this incident, no matter which domination you play, the machine is tight...very hard to hit any game. A lot of dead spin. You are right, this is sort of AI learning on your behavior. If you want to win, you can't always playing in the same method. You need to change, but I strongly advise you to stop if you have lose too much.

Bonus buy feature is very bad, you can always get 10% return for every bonus buy in normal play. But if you are new player, you will get like 70% to 90% return on the bonus buy, until you get a big win, the machine will become very tight. So.....I think it's not random. Usually a new player account is very easy to play, I understand what you always change casino. New account will be more easier to play. But, I can tell you that, you see the big win I got, but you didn't see how much I lost. No matter what game I go, the result is the same. No matter I use VPN or change to PC/Mobile, the result is same.

That why I said, this is not random.

ChanMIB
pre 1 godinu

Tačno, i ja sam došao do ovih zaključaka.

Trenutno više ne igram i zatvorio sam sve račune koje sam imao u kockarnicama.

Možda ću jednog dana ponovo igrati ili ne.

Promenio sam rutinu i ne želim da igram za sada, u budućnosti ne znam šta će biti.

Ali da se vratim na razgovor.

Uvek sam pazio da podižem svaki put kada bih dostigao 500 evra, tako da nisam bio potpuno van kontrole, ali zapravo sam u poslednja 4 meseca izgubio mnogo više nego što sam zaradio, ali osim toga, izgubljeno je vreme.

Vikendom sam uspevao da igram 8 sati uzastopno 😏

Ovo je za mene bio najveći problem zbog provođenja previše vremena igrajući.

Tada sam shvatio da me igra preuzima.

Srećom, uspevam da se dobro odvojim od utakmice.

Mislio sam da će me koštati više.

🙂

Drago mi je da smo se upoznali

Nadam se da možete imati najbolju moguću kontrolu u igri


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Mco00
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I'm sure you will back to game. Either by luring from advertisement or youtuber. New game provider and so on. But, if you are only play bonus buy, then I have no tips for it. Remember don't fall into the trap, example first spin 2 scatter and then next spin another scatter coming, this call almost hit luring. Usually this game come too frequent and hit the bonus soon, the payout is no good. You are spending too many hours on that, always set a maximum spins. Don't always just play one game. If game 1 you losing, change game 2, don't chase lose. Example game 1 game 2 you losing x100, game 3 still losing another x100, then you need to stop. No matter which game you go, it will still tight. Don't always think about how much you lose. I'm sure you can't get it back, we got too many example around us, casino always win. Don't fall into their trap. I saw too many people losing a lot money because of bonus buy feature trap, I hope you can escape from it. I can teach you to play this method, every game, same domination, x50 auto spin,if the machine dead spin on first 30 spin,just play turbo for next 20 spins. No matter what result after x50 spins just change game. Always remember, if you have huge win in game 1, even you change to game 2 game 3 the result will still the same ,they will bring your previous wining result to continue count, so the game will be tight, vice versa if you lose in game 1, 2 ,3, the game 4 will be more easy except those megaway, bonanza game. All the best my friend. I'm sure you almost read the RNG map like me, you know which game can play which cannot. But just to control your betting behaviour, just follow maximum spin per game which will control your budget.

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ChanMIB
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Hvala na savetu, ali ja ne igram samo bonus kupovine, mada uvek rizikujem da to uradim kada osvojim razumnu nagradu ili uložim tu nagradu u bonus kupovine.

Kada izgubim taj novac prilikom kupovine bonusa, nastavljam da igram svoj početni novac bez kupovine bonusa, to je bio moj sistem, igrajući samo dva slota.

Zašto misliš da ću ponovo igrati?

IouTube Ne vidim ništa o kockarnicama.

Vidim reklame, ali ih ignorišem jer već znam šta je onlajn kazino.

Trenutno je najbolji način za pobedu u kazinu da ne igrate

Ne idi na utakmicu 😉

Ali ako znate sve ove taktike kockanja zašto ste protraćili veliku nagradu koju ste osvojili?

Delujete kao pametan igrač

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Mco00
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You got the good point, that why I stop playing already.

I know is hard to get back my lost. Is not possible but hard unless I need to lose a lot money, but I don't want to take risk because some account dead is dead.

"But if you know all these gambling tactics why did you waste the big prize you won?" about this question, actually the account is very loose, until I mentioned, when you playing halfway account disconnected or force logout happen. This is proven. After this case, only I know it's control by casino and not random.

So now, I don't want to waste my time anymore. Those big win screen won't surprise me anymore. I lost the appetite on slot already. This is why I'm here to advise some player who needs.

I'm sincerely hope you don't go back to slot, even you can't sleep or miss some slot, don't go for it. Do not let casino earn it. I'm posting the screenshot is showing you all that you can easily get big win like me and also easily lose all your winning. Posting big win photo doesn't mean I win a lot in the end. My slot turnover is around USD100k and I lost around USD8k for this account. So I think is reasonable to meet the RTP.

You are the winner when you stop playing. All the best my friend 🙂

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Zdravo Radka!

Prevodilac ponekad nije bolji, ali napraviću rezime.

Za mene, kazina imaju strategije i uvek, sa moje tačke gledišta, kazina posmatraju igrače u smislu dnevnih ili nedeljnih depozita.

Dobrog igrača koji svaki kazino želi. Dakle, nakon što kazino posmatra igrača, oni znaju koliko daleko mogu da odu sa igračem. Ako je igrač zavisnik, kazinu postaje lakše jer znaju da će igrač uvek potrošiti sve što osvoji, tako da kazino rizikuje da da dobre pobede, da li mislite da kazina nemaju strategije sa svojim igračima?


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Hello!

Aha, I understand now; the point was partly lost due to translation...

Thanks for the summary.

I think I agree with you, I'd say such statistics are part of financial analyses. Under certain circumstances, I understand it may be seen as an advantage the casino tries to maintain.

I mean deposits, bets, withdrawals, and balances - that's all about numbers and good measures, and also, with math applied the proper way, you'll get results. Once you can read the results clearly this is where strategic planning takes place 🙂. Am I close?

It makes good sense now.

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You got the good point, that why I stop playing already.

I know is hard to get back my lost. Is not possible but hard unless I need to lose a lot money, but I don't want to take risk because some account dead is dead.

"But if you know all these gambling tactics why did you waste the big prize you won?" about this question, actually the account is very loose, until I mentioned, when you playing halfway account disconnected or force logout happen. This is proven. After this case, only I know it's control by casino and not random.

So now, I don't want to waste my time anymore. Those big win screen won't surprise me anymore. I lost the appetite on slot already. This is why I'm here to advise some player who needs.

I'm sincerely hope you don't go back to slot, even you can't sleep or miss some slot, don't go for it. Do not let casino earn it. I'm posting the screenshot is showing you all that you can easily get big win like me and also easily lose all your winning. Posting big win photo doesn't mean I win a lot in the end. My slot turnover is around USD100k and I lost around USD8k for this account. So I think is reasonable to meet the RTP.

You are the winner when you stop playing. All the best my friend 🙂

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I'm sorry for your losses. Sometimes, the way to understand the odds is painful.

Have you heard that when it comes to mathematical advantage over players, slots are the most profitable games for casinos?

Sadly, many people tend to ignore that,... Maybe it's because far too often, the passion may be stronger than the cool judgment.

Radka
pre 1 godinu

Da, ti si u pravu.

Ali u trenutku kada sam na pauzi, pravim pauzu.

Stoga se strategije igre trenutno neće primenjivati.

Ko zna, ko zna, možda bih izgubio interesovanje za igranje onlajn kazina zauvek.

Sve će zavisiti od moje nove dnevne rutine.



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ChanMIB
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Baš tako.

Prihvatanje poraza je fundamentalno.

Najveća greška koju igrači prave je što ne prihvate poraz i misle da mogu da se oporave. Laž se neće oporaviti, ali ćeš izgubiti još više.

Baš kao i prihvatanje pobede.

Većina igrača na kraju ne prihvata pobedu i ponovo sve predaje kazinu.

Potrebno je mnogo samokontrole da biste se nosili sa ove dve situacije koje sam pomenuo.

Kada je u pitanju kockanje, morate zapamtiti da kazino uvek pobeđuje.

Nikada nemamo šanse da dobijemo u kazinu, tako kaže stara poslovica.

Pobedilo?! Sakupite novac i napustite igru 😉

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Radka
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Ya, this is more profitable depending on the service provider. Even nowadays the service provider willing to sharing lost with the Casino. Try imagine, the confident level they have. The CS from the casino told me that the Casino is earning a lot on slot. But they're very afraid on a "abnormal betting behavior" player, only these player can win money. The more detail I don't know but sound like they have already knowing how to beat the slot, but if you just playing like normal player, you will always lose.

It's okay for my lost, learn from the fall. otherwise I will still continue playing without aware on the trap. it's always very difficult to earn money from Casino.

Mco00
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You are right. The more frequent you play, the more deep the hole you fall. Just remember, you are not alone, many people able to come out from the fall. Just don't chase it anymore. Too many failure to chase lost. This is the Casino trap.

ChanMIB
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Već sam prihvatio svoje poraze, miran sam oko toga.

Daleko sam od igre i nameravam da tako i ostanem.

Znam da ima mnogo igrača koji svakodnevno gube mnogo novca.

Važno je razumeti kada je vreme da se stane, uspeo sam da shvatim kada je vreme za prestanak.

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Pašina muzika


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Da, ti si u pravu.

Ali u trenutku kada sam na pauzi, pravim pauzu.

Stoga se strategije igre trenutno neće primenjivati.

Ko zna, ko zna, možda bih izgubio interesovanje za igranje onlajn kazina zauvek.

Sve će zavisiti od moje nove dnevne rutine.



Automatski prevedeno:
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Sounds reasonable 🙂.

One should do things worth trusting.

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Ya, this is more profitable depending on the service provider. Even nowadays the service provider willing to sharing lost with the Casino. Try imagine, the confident level they have. The CS from the casino told me that the Casino is earning a lot on slot. But they're very afraid on a "abnormal betting behavior" player, only these player can win money. The more detail I don't know but sound like they have already knowing how to beat the slot, but if you just playing like normal player, you will always lose.

It's okay for my lost, learn from the fall. otherwise I will still continue playing without aware on the trap. it's always very difficult to earn money from Casino.

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You sound very cool to me, and what you just wrote is also stated in the Casino Guru Fair Gambling Codex😎:

https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#betting-patterns

"Our recommendation is quite simple: Don't use betting patterns as an excuse not to pay out winnings to players. These betting patterns can indeed be a sign that a player is doing something against the rules, but they shouldn't be the sole reason to penalize players."

Figures 🙂

Radka
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In my place, they wont penalize player that they wont pay to the player. But they got one rules, example you deposit 100 and get 300 bonus, but you need to play at least 10x to withdraw the money. meaning you need to play at least 4000 dollar to withdraw it. Try imagine, which domination you need to play to reach 4000 turnover, the lower domination the lower chance you will win money or even finish all 400 dollar. Many didn't make it, but your losing is counting into your profile. Example you lose 100+300 in total, but when you next deposit 100, you may win around 400 due to previous lose you have. This is why, they reset your turnover or wallet amount by transfer all the money out. once you been reset, your profile will start from 0 again and your slot will start fresh again. Whether player abuse it? I think they're not. In the end will still casino in flavor. Recently they don't allow people to use this money to buy bonus as buy bonus will easily reach x10 turnover. Well, I don't think now casino will afraid player to abuse betting pattern, they r getting smatter and overcome it with a lot term and condition.

ChanMIB
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Hello.

Wagering 10x is quite nice, I'd say. Browse the bonuses list; the most common amount scales from 30x. 🙂

It is also normal that bonus buying is forbidden while playing with a bonus, and the maximum bet is also limited. Sounds normal to me; I can assure you.

Of course, the point is to make the wagering process more challenging. Bonuses cost casinos money and this is one way how to settler the score 😀.

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