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The player from Japan faced difficulties with a withdrawal request as the casino demanded a "withdrawal history from another casino," which he believed was unreasonable. He explained that sharing such information would violate the privacy policies of rival companies, but the casino remained unconvinced. After discussions, it was determined that the evidence submitted by the player was sufficient, and his account would be verified shortly, allowing for the withdrawal to be processed. The player confirmed the resolution of the complaint upon successful withdrawal.
Igrač iz Japana se suočio sa poteškoćama sa zahtevom za povlačenje jer je kazino zahtevao „istoriju povlačenja iz drugog kazina“, za šta je verovao da je nerazumno. On je objasnio da bi deljenje takvih informacija narušilo politiku privatnosti rivalskih kompanija, ali kazino je ostao neubeđen. Nakon razgovora, utvrđeno je da su dokazi koje je igrač dostavio dovoljni, a njegov račun će uskoro biti verifikovan, što će omogućiti obradu povlačenja. Igrač je potvrdio rešenje žalbe nakon uspešnog povlačenja.
Prilikom povlačenja u ovom kazinu, kazino zahteva „istoriju povlačenja iz drugog kazina".
Objasnio sam da bi sa stanovišta drugog kazina to značilo predaju informacija konkurentskoj kompaniji i njima to ne bi bilo dozvoljeno, ali nisu ubeđeni.
Objasnite im da ova kazina nemaju opštu KIC politiku.
When making a withdrawal at this casino, the casino requests "withdrawal history from another casino".
I have explained that from another casino's point of view, this would mean handing over information to a rival company and they would not be allowed to do so, but they are not convinced.
Please explain to them that this casinos do not have a general KYC policy.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju.
Možete li, molim vas, pojasniti u kom trenutku je kazino zatražio ovaj dokument? Da li je to deo procedure verifikacije?
Da li je kazino zahtevao istoriju povlačenja iz određenog kazina?
Da li ste dali neke druge dokumente?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear andandjonnyx,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Could you please clarify at which point the casino requested this document? Is it part of the verification procedure?
Did the casino request a withdrawal history from a specific casino?
Have you provided any other documents?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, andjonnik. Možete li proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na kristina.s@casino.guru ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, andandjonnyx. Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Hvala vam puno, andandjonnik, na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( michal.k@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, andandjonnyx, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Ponovo sam Mihal, i ja sam preuzeo vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam vaš slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da rasvetlimo ovu stvar.
Pozivamo King Palace Casino da se pridruži razgovoru.
Dragi King Palace Casino,
Iako razumemo da se od igrača mogu tražiti različiti dokumenti za KIC proces, ali možete li pojasniti zašto ste od igrača zatražili „istoriju povlačenja iz drugog kazina"?
Hello andandjonnyx,
It's Michal again, and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed your case and I will contact the casino to shed more light on this matter.
We would like to invite King Palace Casino to join the conversation.
Dear King Palace Casino,
While we understand that various documents can be requested from the player for the KYC process, but can you please clarify why you have requested from the player the "withdrawal history from another casino"?
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Cenimo vaše strpljenje i želeli bismo da razjasnimo zašto je potrebna dodatna verifikacija.
Kao licencirani kazino, od nas se zahteva da sprovedemo detaljne provere izvora sredstava (SOF) i izvora bogatstva (SOV) u skladu sa našim regulatornim obavezama. U vašem slučaju, vaša dostavljena evidencija transakcija pokazuje da je vaša aktivnost kockanja finansirana dobicima iz drugih kazina. Da bismo završili proces verifikacije, zatražili smo prateću dokumentaciju da potvrdimo ove transakcije i uspostavimo jasnu finansijsku istoriju.
Razumemo vašu zabrinutost u vezi sa privatnošću, ali standardna je praksa da se zahtevaju dokazi o eksternim dobicima od kockanja kada se koriste kao primarni izvor depozita. Tražene informacije se ne odnose na interne politike drugog kazina, već služe kao neophodan korak verifikacije kako bi se osigurala usklađenost sa propisima o sprečavanju pranja novca (AML) i protiv finansiranja terorizma (CFT).
Ostajemo posvećeni tome da vam pomognemo kroz proces verifikacije. Ako su vam potrebna dodatna pojašnjenja o potrebnim dokumentima, kontaktirajte direktno naš tim za podršku.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tim KingPalace
We appreciate your patience and would like to clarify why additional verification was requested.
As a licensed casino, we are required to conduct thorough Source of Funds (SOF) and Source of Wealth (SOW) checks in compliance with our regulatory obligations. In your case, your provided transaction records indicated that your gambling activity was funded by winnings from other casinos. To complete the verification process, we requested supporting documentation to confirm these transactions and establish a clear financial history.
We understand your concerns regarding privacy, but it is standard practice to request proof of external gambling winnings when they are used as a primary source of deposits. The information requested does not pertain to another casino’s internal policies but rather serves as a necessary verification step to ensure compliance with Anti-Money Laundering (AML) and Counter-Financing of Terrorism (CFT) regulations.
We remain committed to assisting you through the verification process. If you need further clarification on the required documents, please contact our support team directly.
Hvala vam na odgovoru i objašnjenju razloga za tražene dokaze.
Dragi andandjonnik,
Iako mogu da razumem da vam može izgledati nepotrebno da pružite tražene informacije i dokaze, a takođe mogu da razumem da vam se takve informacije mogu činiti previše privatne, međutim, kao što je kazino tim spomenuo, provere izvora sredstava (SOF) i izvora bogatstva (SOV) su deo regulative za sprečavanje pranja novca (AML) i protiv-finansiranja (FTC) koji je standard za industriju. Možda vam se ne sviđa, ali kazino ima pravo da zahteva dokumente od vas.
Na vama je da li želite da pružite takve informacije ili ne, ali imajte na umu da se AML proces neće uspešno završiti i da kazino neće biti u obavezi da vam obradi bilo kakvo povlačenje. Odluka je na vama, ali ako ne možete ili nećete da obezbedite traženu dokumentaciju, nećemo moći dalje da nastavimo sa vašim slučajem i moraćemo da nastavimo sa odbijanjem ove žalbe. Javite mi kako želite da postupite.
Dear KingPalace Team,
Thank you for your response and for explaining the reason for the required evidence.
Dear andandjonnyx,
While I can understand that it might seem unnecessary to you to provide the required information and evidence, and I as well can understand that such information might appear too private to you, however, as the casino team mentioned, the Source of Funds (SOF) and Source of Wealth (SOW) checks are a part of the Anti-Money Laundering (AML) and Counter-Financing of Terrorism (CFT) regulations, which is an industry standard requirement. It might not be to your liking, but the casino is entitled to require the documents from you.
It is up to you if you want to provide such information or not, but please note that the AML process will not finish successfully and the casino will not be obliged to process any withdrawal to you. The decision is up to you, but if you cannot or will not provide the required documents, we will not be able to pursue your case further and will have to proceed with rejecting this complaint. Please let me know how you would like to proceed.
Izgleda da niste posvetili punu pažnju mojoj poruci. Kao što je kazino tim spomenuo od vas se NE traži da pribavite ili podnesete internu dokumentaciju od drugog kazina, već jednostavno da dostavite SVOJU finansijsku evidenciju . Morate da obezbedite dokaz o VAŠEM izvoru sredstava (SOF) i izvoru bogatstva (SOV). Štaviše, ovaj zahtev je verovatno ograničen na vaše najnovije (uopšteno govoreći, za poslednjih 90 dana) finansijske aktivnosti, jer je malo verovatno da je kazino tražio dokaze koji pokrivaju prethodne godine. Da li slučajno imate bilo kakve mejlove u vezi povlačenja iz kazina? Podelite što više informacija i dokaza sa kazino timom koliko ste u mogućnosti.
Dear andandjonnyx,
It seems you have not paid your full attention to my message. As the casino team has mentioned you are NOT being asked to obtain or submit internal documentation from another casino but simply to provide YOUR OWN financial records. You must provide evidence of YOUR Source of Funds (SOF) and Source of Wealth (SOW). Furthermore, this requirement is likely limited to your most recent (in general, it is for the last 90 days) financial activities, as it is improbable that the casino has requested evidence covering the previous years. Do you happen to have any emails regarding the withdrawals from the casinos? Share as much information and evidence with the casino team as you are able to.
Već sam dao svoju finansijsku evidenciju, odnosno istoriju na strani novčanika.
Povrh toga, King Palace Casino traži finansijsku evidenciju sa druge strane kazina, koju je nemoguće dobiti, zbog čega podnosim ovu žalbu.
Finansijska evidencija koja postoji u novčaniku -> već predata
Finansijski zapisi koji postoje u drugom kazinu -> nisu dostupni jer su interni dokumenti
Zar ne razumete ovu jednostavnu priču?
You don't seem to understand the story.
I have already provided my own financial records, i.e., wallet-side history.
On top of that, King Palace Casino is requesting financial records from another casino's side, which is impossible to obtain, which is why I am submitting this complaint.
Financial records existing in wallet -> already submitted
Financial records existing in another casino -> not available as they are internal documents
Ne tražimo dokumente iz drugih kazina ili druge nedostižne dokumente. Potrebni su nam snimci ekrana iz njegovog bankovnog/bankovnog izvoda koji pokazuju da je primio sredstva iz ovog drugog kazina, na ovim snimcima ekrana/bankovnom izvodu trebalo bi da možemo da vidimo vidljive dolazne transakcije + ime vlasnika računa.
Treba nam samo pojašnjenje gde je dobio sredstva koja je deponovao na našu platformu
We are not asking for documents from other casinos or other unattainable documents. We need screenshots from his bank/bank statement showing that he has received funds from this other casino, in these screenshots/bank statement we should be able to see the incoming transactions + account holder name visible.
We just need clarification of where he has obtained funds that he has deposited into our platform
Pre svega, ljubazno vas molim da komunicirate na način poštovanja. Svaki drugi vaš odgovor napisan tonom kao što je gore mogao bi dovesti do toga da vaša žalba bude odbijena, pa čak i da budete zabranjeni sa našeg foruma. O tome ste već bili obavešteni u prošlosti. Drugo, nije bitno koji ste način plaćanja koristili; kazino ima pravo da zatraži vašu istoriju transakcija sa bilo kog načina plaćanja koji se koristi u okviru njihove platforme. Ako postoje transakcije kojima nedostaje jasnoća u vezi sa njihovim izvorom, oni mogu tražiti vaše pojašnjenje i vaša saradnja je obavezna u tome.
Sada, u vezi sa snimkom ekrana koji ste dali, da li on predstavlja istoriju transakcija za period koji je prethodno zahtevao kazino tim? Pored toga, da li imate bilo kakve poruke e-pošte (e-poruke sa potvrdom povlačenja itd.) za povlačenje sredstava iz kazina od kojih ste primili sredstva tokom tog vremenskog perioda?
Dear andandjonnyx,
First of all, I kindly ask you to communicate in a respectful way. Any other response from you written in such a tone as above could lead to your complaint being rejected and even your being banned from our forum. You have been already informed of this in the past. Secondly, it doesn't matter which payment method you used; the casino has the right to request your transaction history from any payment method utilized within their platform. If there are any transactions that lack clarity regarding their source, they may seek your clarification, and your cooperation is mandatory in this.
Now, regarding the screenshot you provided, does it represent the transaction history for the period previously requested by the casino team? Additionally, do you have any emails related (withdrawal confirmation emails, etc.) to the withdrawals from the casinos from which you received funds during that timeframe?
Međutim, ljuti smo i zato što su u više navrata bili grubi i naterani da objašnjavaju istu stvar iznova i iznova.
Ako ne razumete šta govorim, možda bi za oboje bilo bolje da vas zameni neka druga odgovorna osoba.
Da. Predstavlja istoriju transakcija za mesec januar prema zahtevu kazina.
Nema e-poruka povezanih sa povlačenjem novca iz kazina.
Ne koriste sva kazina isti sistem kao King Palace Casino.
A sistem je potpuno drugačiji, na primer sa jedinom razlikom što je licenca Curacao i licenca Malte,
Neka kazina za početak nemaju licencu.
Ipak, King Palace Casino greškom tvrdi da druga kazina imaju isti sistem kao i oni i da su dokumenti dostupni.
Isto važi i za načine plaćanja.
Zakoni o bankama važe za banke, ali ne i za novčanike.
Čak i banke imaju različite zakone u različitim zemljama za početak.
Banke u zemlji u kojoj je sedište kazina King Palace možda imaju lak pristup istoriji transakcija, ali ne postoji garancija da je to slučaj za sve usluge.
U najmanju ruku, trebalo bi da razumete ovo pre nego što razmotrite AML.
Stalno sam otkrio da „kazina primenjuju sopstveni zdrav razum na druge kazina i usluge novčanika i zahtevaju dokumente koje je nemoguće podneti."
U imejlovima, King Palace Casino je često tvrdio da „kazina moraju da čuvaju podatke o klijentima 5 godina,
Zašto je to slučaj za sva kazina sa različitim licencama iu različitim zemljama?
Čak i ako su zadržali podatke o klijentima, bili bi uvređeni licencom ako bi ih poslali bez valjanog razloga.
I am sorry.
However, we are also angry because they have been repeatedly rude and made to explain the same thing over and over again.
If you don't understand what I am saying, it might be better for both of us if you are replaced by another person in charge.
Yes. Represents the transaction history for the month of January as requested by the casino.
There are no emails associated with withdrawals from the casino.
Not all casinos use the same system as King Palace Casino.
And the system is completely different, example with the only difference being the Curaçao license and the Malta license,
Some casinos do not have a license to begin with.
Nevertheless, King Palace Casino mistakenly claims that other casinos have the same system as theirs and that the documents are available.
The same applies to payment methods.
Banking laws apply to banks, but not to wallets.
Even banks have different laws in different countries to begin with.
Banks in the country where King Palace Casino is headquartered may have easy access to transaction history, but there is no guarantee that this is the case for all services.
At the very least, you should understand this before considering AML.
I have consistently found that 'casinos are applying their own common sense to other casinos and wallet services and demanding documents that are impossible to submit.'
In emails, King Palace Casino has often claimed that 'casinos are required to retain customer information for 5 years,
Why is this the case for all casinos with different licenses and in different countries?
Even if they did retain customer information, they would be offended by license if they submitted it without a valid reason.
Nakon razgovora sa timom Casino Gurua, utvrdili smo da su dokazi koje je igrač dostavio dovoljni u ovom trenutku. Nalog igrača će uskoro biti verifikovan, a povlačenje će biti obrađeno uobičajenom procedurom.
After discussing the matter with the Casino Guru team, we have determined that the evidence submitted by the player is sufficient at this point. The player's account will be verified shortly, and the withdrawal will be processed through the usual procedure.
Hvala na potvrdi. Uvek je tako zahvalno čuti da su naši napori – još jednom – pomogli da se reši još jedna od vaših jedinstvenih situacija.
Što se tiče vaše interesantne opaske—„ Ako ne razumete šta govorim, možda bi za oboje bilo bolje da vas zameni druga odgovorna osoba ."—Ljubazno ću pretpostaviti da nije bila upućena meni. Na kraju krajeva, mi ovde sledimo stvarne procedure i pokušavamo da rešimo situaciju najbolje što možemo, za razliku od nekih koji izgleda više vole dramu nego rešenja.
Međutim, ako naše utvrđene metode, koje su vam u mnogim slučajevima već pomogle da povratite svoje dobitke, ne ispunjavaju vaše izuzetno visoke standarde, više ste nego dobrodošli da svoje česte i konzistentno kontroverzne probleme prenesete na drugo mesto. Sa zadovoljstvom ćemo se fokusirati na pomoć hiljadama drugih igrača koji aktivno ne traže komplikacije.
Ako to izbacim s puta, označiću ovu žalbu kao „rešenu".
Želeo bih da se zahvalim kazino timu na njihovom razumnom pristupu rešavanju ovog slučaja.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Michal
Casino Guru
Dear andandjonnyx,
Thank you for the confirmation. It’s always so rewarding to hear that our efforts have—once again—helped resolve yet another one of your unique situations.
As for your interesting remark—"If you don't understand what I am saying, it might be better for both of us if you are replaced by another person in charge."—I’ll graciously assume it wasn’t directed at me. After all, we do follow actual procedures here and we do try to resolve the situation to the best of our ability, unlike some who seem to prefer drama over solutions.
That said, if our established methods, which in a lot of cases have helped you to recover your winnings already, don’t meet your exceptionally high standards, you’re more than welcome to take your frequent and consistently controversial issues elsewhere. We’ll happily focus on assisting the thousands of other players who don’t actively seek out complications.
With that out of the way, I’ll mark this complaint as "resolved".
I would like to thank the casino team for their reasonable approach to handling this case.
Best regards,
Michal
Casino Guru
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