Zdravo Tomas,
Hvala za odgovor!
Nažalost, gledajući na vaš odgovor, uopšte niste istražili politiku kazina jer oni imaju politiku odgovornog igranja. https://spacevincasino.com/info/responsible_gaming
Verujem da je moja žalba opravdana i vredna istrage u Casino Guru jednostavno zato što je kazino propao u skladu sa svojom politikom/pravilima. U potpunosti se slažem da ne postoji jedinstvena regulativa u vezi sa odgovornim igranjem i morate se baviti ponudama u zavisnosti od kazina. Međutim, jedno je što kazino nema alate za zaštitu, a drugo ako ih kazino ima, ali ih ne koristi kada su igrači potrebni da bi izbegli isplate.
I prema vašem odgovoru (ispravite me ako pogrešno razumem) ako igrač zatraži samoisključivanje, a ovo se previdi ili nije pravilno podešeno, on/ona takođe ne može da koristi proceduru žalbe u ovom kazinu jer vi ne biste mogli da refundirajte/vratite stanje igrača/depozite, ali ovde postoji nekoliko pritužbi (rešenih i nerešenih) u vezi sa zanemarenim zahtevom za samoisključivanje gde je igračima potrebna pomoć vašeg tima da reše problem.
Imajte na umu da sam dva puta podneo zahtev za ograničenje opklade i na oba imam dokaz da je kazino primio ovu poruku. I između mog drugog zahteva za ograničenje opklade i vremena kada sam ponovo počeo da igram (što je trajalo nekoliko sati pre nego što sam izgubio sav balans) prošlo je 18 sati što je više nego dovoljno vremena da kazino postavi ovo ograničenje ili odgovori tražeći više informacija ili navodeći da ne mogu ispuniti takav zahtev jer je njihova podrška dostupna 24/7.
Zahtev koji sam uputio kazinu je bio:
Dalje, ovim putem tražim i ograničenje opklade od 50 € po danu koji odmah stupa na snagu da bih sprečio štetu po sebe!
Pominjanje ovoga obično ukazuje na to da je igraču potrebna pomoć ili da kazino to treba bolje da ispita da vidi kakvu pomoć može da pruži.
Nakon što sam izgubila sva sredstva i razgovarala sa Live Support-om, ona je potvrdila da je primila moj zahtev, ali prema njenim rečima to možda njen kolega nije primetio što je zapravo šteta. S obzirom na njihov odgovor na moj slučaj, ne bi me iznenadilo da je to možda bilo namerno..
Ono što zapravo očekujem od Casino Gurua je da ispita slučaj jer je ovaj kazino jednostavno prekršio sopstvene uslove i alate za zaštitu što bi trebalo da dovede do istrage (i možda vraćanja ravnoteže ili crnih poena ako kazino uopšte ne reaguje) od strane možda previdevši moj zahtev.
Činjenica da mi je kazino ponudio delimičan povraćaj mojih depozita implicira da su svesni svojih grešaka jer u svojoj konačnoj odluci/odgovoru nisu spomenuli ni reč o mojoj žalbi ili slučaju, sve što su smislili je bio slab izgovor o bezbednosnim proverama i 'negativnim' povratnim informacijama iz drugog kazina bez ikakvih pratećih dokaza. Podrška je takođe potvrdila da ako pristanem na povraćaj novca, moram da odustanem od svih svojih potraživanja protiv kazina što opet implicira da znaju da greše i da me se moraju otarasiti.
Tokom prve nedelje nakon slanja žalbe i dalje sam mogao da igram i deponujem na njihovom kazinu bez ikakvih ograničenja, što je dokaz da kazino ne želi da postavlja bilo koje da bi ostvario veći profit. Dan pre nego što sam dobio 'konačnu' odluku u potpunosti su mi blokirali račun u kazinu, što pretpostavljam i jeste tako da ne mogu da prikupim nikakve dokaze protiv njih.
Zato sam se obratio Casino Guru-u jer bi bilo lakše da koristim vaše posredničko rešenje koje bi moglo da reši moj problem i ako to ne uspe upozoriti druge igrače da se drže dalje od ovog kazina jer su nepravedni i nevaljali.
Uz sve gore navedeno, pitam se šta će tim Casino Gurua reći o ovoj pritužbi da pokušamo da je rešimo ili ne..
Hello Tomas,
Thanks for your reply!
Unfortunately looking to your reply you did not investigate the casino’s policy at all as they do have a Responsible Gaming Policy. https://spacewincasino.com/info/responsible_gaming
I do believe that my complaint is justified and worth the investigation at Casino Guru simply as the casino failed on its own policy/rules. I fully agree that there is no unified regulation regarding responsible gaming, and you have to deal with the offers depending on the casino. However, it is one thing that a casino has no protection tools and another if a casino has but does not use them when players need it to avoid payouts..
And according to your reply(correct me if I understand it wrong) if a player request a self-exclusion and this is gets overlooked or not set properly he/she also cannot use the complaint procedure on this casino as you would not be able to refund/restore the players balances/deposits, yet there are several complaints here (solved and unsolved) about an overlooked self-exclusion request where players required help from your team to resolve the matter.
Do note that I made the request twice for a wager limit and on both I have evidence that this message was received by the casino. And between my second Wager Limit request and the time I started actually playing again (which took several hours before I lost all my balance) we passed 18 hours which is more than enough time for the casino to set this Limit or reply asking for more info or stating that they cannot honour such request as their Support is 24/7 available.
The request I made to the casino was:
Furtheron I also hereby request a wager limit of €50 per day effective immediately to prevent harm to myself!
Mentioning this normally indicates that the player needs help or the casino needs to look into this better to see what assistance they can provide.
After losing all my funds and speaking with Live Support, she confirmed the receival of my request but according to her maybe her colleague did not notice it which is actually a shame. Given their reply on my case it would not surprise me if that maybe was maybe on purpose..
What I do expect from Casino Guru actually is to look into the case as this casino simply violated its own terms and protection tools which should lead to investigation (and maybe a restore of balance or black points if the casino does not respond at all) by maybe overlooking my request.
The fact that the casino offered me a partial refund of my deposits does imply that they are aware of their mistakes as in their final decision/reply they did not mention a word about my complaint or case, all they came up with was a weak excuse about security checks and ‘negative’ feedback from another casino without any supporting evidence. Support also confirmed that if I agree on the refund, I have to drop all my claims against the casino which again imply that they know they are wrong and needs to get rid of me.
During the first week after sending my complaint I was still able to play and deposit on their casino without any restrictions which proof that the casino does not want to set any to gain more profit. The day before I got the 'Final' Decision they blocked my casino account fully which I guess did so I can not gather any evidence against them I think.
That’s why I turned to Casino Guru as it would be easier to use your mediate solution which could resolve my matter and if that fails warn other players to stay far away from this casino as they are unfair and rogue.
With all the above I wonder what the Casino Guru team will say about this complaint on trying to resolve it or not..
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