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Nažalost, imam problem sa Forza.bet koji nije rešen. Zato se obraćam vama. Glavno pitanje moje žalbe je da ovaj kazino nudi limit depozita kao deo svoje politike odgovornog igranja, ali ne uspeva da ga primeni, što znači da možete prekoračiti ovaj odabrani limit bez ikakvih problema. Evo pregleda mog slučaja:
- 2. decembra sam deponovao 450 evra i izabrao limit depozita od 600 evra mesečno.
- 13. decembra imam aktivan limit depozita od €600 mesečno i bio sam u mogućnosti da deponujem još €450 koji premašuju ovaj odabrani limit. Istog dana sam takođe pokušao da poništim limit depozita i nakon toga ga promenio na 1000€ mesečno. Međutim, kada to uradite, iskačući prozor sa navođenjem ograničenja biće aktiviran za 24 sata. To znači da je na današnji dan moj limit depozita i dalje bio 600 € mesečno i moj depozit od 450 € je trebalo da bude odbijen.
Nažalost, pošto sam uspeo da uplatim depozit 13. decembra i prekoračim limit depozita, započeo sam razgovor sa podrškom uživo.
Tokom ovog ćaskanja sa podrškom uživo imao sam dve žalbe, prva je bila da sam zapravo uspeo da prekoračim limit svog depozita tako što sam mogao da deponujem €450 nešto što je trebalo da bude nemoguće. I drugo, nisam trebao da mogu da se pridružim i kockam ovde jer sam na holandskom gamstopu (mi to zovemo CRUKS, ali radi isto). To znači da nikada nisam mogao da se kockam dok sam pronašao ovaj kazino preko holandskog oglasa koji cilja Holandiju. U ovom ćaskanju sam više puta objasnio da želim povraćaj svog depozita zbog prekoračenja limita depozita, ali i da zatvorim svoj nalog s obzirom na okolnosti da sam na gamstopu. Na kraju ćaskanja agent me je obavestio da to uradim sam, ali sam ga već pokušao ranije ovog meseca bez mogućnosti da ga produžim. Kazino nije reagovao na ovo i posle nekoliko minuta me je izbacio iz ćaskanja.
Kazino nije uspeo da ispoštuje sopstveni limit depozita i nije zatvorio moj nalog nakon jasnog razgovora da igrač treba/želi da se njegov nalog zatvori.
- 16. decembra ujutru moj limit depozita je i dalje bio 450€ mesečno i mogao sam da uplatim 3100€ tokom celog dana. Nakon mog poslednjeg depozita, novi limit je postao vidljiv od €1000 mesečno. To znači da je njihov limit depozita ponovo propao jer sam uspeo da deponujem ukupan iznos od 4000 evra u ovaj kazino dok je moj limit depozita sada postavljen na 1000 evra mesečno.
Nakon što su se obratili kazinu sa mojom pritužbom, konačno su mi trajno zatvorili račun, ali su odbili da izdaju povraćaj novca za svoje greške tvrdeći da nije bilo kvarova na njihovom limitu depozita. U vezi sa mojom pritužbom na nedostatku politike odgovornog igranja (odnosno na moje ćaskanje sa podrškom uživo 13. decembra) i ne zatvaranjem naloga nisam dobio nikakav odgovor. Sve što kazino kaže je da nismo uradili ništa loše i da ne možemo biti odgovorni za ovo što je loše ponašanje kazina.
Zato se nadam da ću dobiti pomoć od Casino Gurua da dobijem potpuni povraćaj novca od 3550 €, jer da kazino poštuje svoje uslove, ne bih mogao da uplatim 450 € 13. decembra i da su imali odgovornu politiku igara, oni bi zatvorio svoj kazino nalog odmah nakon što sam ih obavestio da sam na holandskom gamstopu i želim da se moj kazino nalog zatvori. Umesto toga, kazino nije mario, dozvolio mi je da nastavim da igram i još jednom prekoračim limit svog depozita 16. decembra koji mogu nazvati samo lažnim kazinom (kojih ima dosta na ovom tržištu).
Zanimljivo je to što sam mogao da vidim da sam prekoračio limit svog depozita i nakon što mi je kazino zatvorio račun uklonili su sve depozite koje sam napravio iz pregleda transakcija kao da nikada nisam deponovao u ovaj kazino. Ipak, kazino i dalje tvrdi da njihov sistem ograničenja depozita nije imao greške.
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Unfortunately, I have an issue with Forza.bet which has not been resolved. Thats why I am reaching out to you. The main issue of my complaint is that this casino offers a Deposit Limit as part of their Responsible Gaming Policy but fail to enforce it meaning you can exceed this selected limit without any trouble. Here is an overview of my case:
- December 2nd I deposited €450 euros and selected a deposit limit of €600 monthly.
- December 13th I sill have an active deposit limit of €600 per month and was able to deposit another €450 which exceed this selected limit. This same day I also tried to cancel the deposit limit and after that changed it to €1000 per month. However, when doing this a popup showed stating limits will be activated in 24 hours. This means that on this day my deposit limit was still €600 a month and my deposit of €450 should have been rejected.
Unfortunately, as I was able to deposit on December 13th and exceed the deposit limit I started a chat with Live support.
During this chat with Live Support I had two complaints, the first one was that I actually was able to exceed my deposit limit by being able to deposit €450 something that should have been impossible. And second I was not supposed to be able to join and gamble here as I am on a Dutch gamstop (we call it CRUKS but it works the same). This means that I should have never been able to gamble while I found this casino through a Dutch advertisement targeting the Netherlands. In this chat I multiple times explained that I want a refund of my deposit for exceeding the deposit limit but also to close my account given the circumstances of being on a gamstop. At the end of the chat the agent did inform me to do it myself but I had already tried it earlier this month without the option to be able to extend it. The casino did not respond to this and after a few minutes kicked me out of the chat.
The casino failed to comply with their own deposit limit and did not close my account after having a clear conversation that the player needs/wants his account to be closed.
- On December 16th in the morning my deposit limit was still €450 a month and I was able to deposit over the whole day €3100,-. After making my last deposit the new limit became visible of €1000 a month. This means that their deposit limit failed once again as I was able to deposit a total amount of €4000 to this casino while having my deposit limit was now set on €1000 a month.
After reaching out to the casino with my complaint they finally did close my account permanently but refused to issue a refund for their mistakes made claiming that there were no malfunctions on their deposit limit. About my complaint for the lacking responsible gaming policy (referring to my chat with Live Support on December 13) and not closing my account I have not received any response. All the casino says is we did not do anything wrong and cannot be held liable for this which is poor behavior from a casino.
Thats why I hope to get help from Casino Guru to obtain a full refund of €3550 because if the casino did respects its own terms I would have been unable to deposit €450 on December 13 and if they did have a responsible gaming policy they would have closed my casino account right after informing them that I am on a Dutch gamstop and want my casino account to be closed. Instead the casino did not care, allowed me to keep playing and exceed once again my deposit limit on December 16 which I can only call a rogue casino (of which a lot are in this market).
An interesting part is that I was able to see that I exceeded my deposit limit and after the casino closed my account they removed all deposits I made from the transaction overview as if I never deposited to this casino. Yet, the casino still claims that their Deposit limit system had no errors.
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