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The player from Greece had received a no-deposit bonus and initially had more than 200€, but later had 60€ removed before processing a 100€ withdrawal, encountering issues with the casino's justification for the deductions. After thorough communication between the player and the Complaints Team, the casino credited 60.12€ back to the player's account. The issue was resolved.
Igrač iz Grčke je dobio bonus bez depozita i u početku je imao više od 200 €, ali je kasnije uklonjeno 60 € pre nego što je obradio povlačenje 100 €, nailazeći na probleme sa opravdanjem odbitaka od strane kazina. Nakon detaljne komunikacije između igrača i tima za žalbe, kazino je vratio 60,12€ na račun igrača. Problem je bio rešen.
Zdravo, dobio sam 40 okretaja kao bonus bez depozita, sa maksimalnim isplatom od 40 €, nakon opklade, imao sam više od 200 € koji su bili zaduženi i ostavljeni sa 40 € koji su se pretvorili u pravi novac na moj račun. Osvojio sam više od 60 € sa svojim pravim novcem pre povlačenja 100 €. Onda je kazino ponovo uklonio mojih 60€ sa istim izgovorom.
Hello i received 40 spins as a no deposit bonus ,with max cashout 40€ ,after wagering i hade more than 200€ that was debited and left with 40 € that transformed as real money to my account. The i won more 60 € with my real money before withdrawal 100€ . Then the casino removed again my 60€ with the same excuse.
Uspeo sam da založim bonus sa 200€+ i na osnovu pravila o bonusu ostatak mi je oduzet i ostalo mi je 40€ što je maksimalni profit-mak cashout od besplatnih okretaja, zatim nakon što je ovaj novac konvertovan u pravi igrao sam još malo novca i napravio ga 100€ gde sam nastavio da povlačim, kazino je još jednom oduzeo 60€ koje sam pošteno osvojio sa svojim pravim novcem uz isti izgovor da su oni oduzeo novac koji sam prikupio od bonusa. Moje pitanje je zašto bi neko uplatio depozit u ovom kazinu, jer čak ni vaš pravi novac nije siguran.
1) novac koji sam osvojio stečen je pravim novcem!
2) Moj nalog je verifikovan.
3) Ne, pravila zasnovana na snimku ekrana kažu da je maksimalni profit od bonusa 40 €, što je ispoštovano, a ostatak mi je odbijen po završetku.
U ovoj poruci sam postavio fotografije sa uslovima bonusa, a dokaz na mom profilu da je 60€ koje osporavam nepravedno oduzeto od mog pravog novca i da je izvršeno povlačenje, zahtev je poništen od strane administratora bez ikakvog dokaza da Imao sam 100 € ukupno, a ne 40 €.
Hvala vam na brzom odgovoru i nadam se da će se naći rešenje i da će mi novac biti vraćen.
I managed to wager the bonus with 200€+ and based on the bonus regulations the rest was deducted from me and I was left with 40€ which is the maximum profit- max cashout from the free spins, then after this money was converted into real money I played a little more and made it 100€ where I proceeded to withdraw, the casino once again took away the 60€ that I won fairly with my real money with the same excuse that they took away the money I had collected from the bonus. My question is why would anyone make a deposit at this casino since not even your real money is safe.
1) the money I won was acquired with real money!
2)My account is verified.
3) No, the rules based on the screenshot say that the maximum profit from the bonus is €40, which was respected and the rest was deducted from me upon completion.
In this message I posted photos with the bonus conditions, and the proof on my profile that the €60 I am disputing was unfairly deducted from my real money and that a withdrawal had been made, the request was canceled by the administrators without any proof that I had €100 in total and not €40.
Thank you for the prompt response and I hope a solution can be found and my money will be refunded.
Κατάφερα και τζίραρα το μπόνους με 200€+ και βάση των κανονισμών του μπόνους μου αφαιρέθηκαν τα υπόλοιπα και έμεινα με 40€ που είναι και το μέγιστο κέρδος- max cashout από τις δωρεάν περιστροφές, ύστερα αφού τα χρήματα αυτά μετατράπηκαν σε πραγματικά χρήματα έπαιξα λίγο ακόμα και τα έκανα 100€ όπου και προχώρησα σε ανάληψη, το καζίνο για άλλη μια φορά μου αφαίρεσε τα 60€ που κέρδισα δίκαια με τα πραγματικά μου χρήματα με την ίδια δικαιολογία που μου αφαιρέθηκαν και τα χρήματα που είχα μαζέψει από το μπόνους. Η ερώτηση μου είναι γιατι να κάνει κάποιος κατάθεση σε αυτό το καζίνο αφού ούτε τα πραγματικά χρήματα σου είναι ασφαλής.
1)τα χρήματα που κέρδισα αποκτήθηκαν με πραγματικά χρήματα!
2)Ο λογαριασμός μου είναι επαληθευμενος
3)Όχι οι κανόνες βάση screenshot λένε ότι το μέγιστο κέρδος από το μπόνους είναι 40€ το οποίο τηρήθηκε και μου αφαιρέθηκαν τα υπόλοιπα κατά την ολοκλήρωση του.
Σε αυτό το μύνημα ανάρτησα φωτογραφίες με τις προϋποθέσεις του μπόνους, και τις αποδείξεις στο προφίλ μου ότι τα 60€ που αμφισβητώ αφαιρέθηκαν αδίκως από τα πραγματικά μου χρήματα και ότι είχε γίνει ανάληψη η αποια ακυρώθηκε από τους διαχειριστές χωρίς καμία απόδειξη ότι είχα 100 ευρώ συνολικά και όχι 40 ευρώ .
Ευχαριστώ για την άμεση ανταπόκριση και ελπίζω να βρεθεί κάποια λύση και να μου επιστραφούν τα χρήματα.
Dakle, na osnovu ovog konkretnog kazina, nakon što ispunite uslove za bonus, jedina opcija je da izvršite povlačenje, jer čak i sada ako igram sa 40 evra pravog novca, svaki dodatni dobitak kao što je 60 evra koje sam osporavanje će biti uklonjeno sa istim opravdanjem, rešenje je da ne izaberete da igrate sa bonusom?
So based on this particular casino, after you complete the requirements of a bonus, the only option is to make a withdrawal, since even now if I play with the €40 euros of real money, any additional winnings such as the €60 that I am disputing will be removed with the same justification, the solution is to not choose to play with a bonus?
Άρα βάση του συγκεκριμένου καζίνου αφού ολοκληρώσεις τις προϋποθέσεις ενός μπόνους η μόνη επιλογή είναι να κάνεις ανάληψη αφού ακόμα και τώρα άμα παίξω με τα 40€ ευρώ πραγματικά χρήματα οποιοδήποτε επιπλέον κέρδος όπως τα 60€ που αμφισβητώ θα αφαιρεθούν με την ίδια δικαιολογία, η λύση είναι να μην επιλέγεις να παίζεις με μπόνους?
Hvala vam puno, genti621, što ste dali potrebne informacije. Vašu žalbu ću sada preneti kolegi Branislavu ( branislav.b@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, genti621, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Branislav (branislav.b@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Žao mi je što čujem za vaše neprijatno iskustvo i izvinjavam se zbog kašnjenja. Kontaktiraću kazino i potrudiću se da rešim problem što je pre moguće.
Sada bih želeo da pozovem predstavnika kazina da se pridruži ovom razgovoru i učestvuje u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Dragi Gamblezen Casino timu ,
Možete li, molim vas, detaljnije da objasnite situaciju igrača? Zašto su korisnikova sredstva ograničena 2k i dobici od 60 € konfiskovani ako se već smatraju pravim novčanim stanjem, pa se pravila o bonusima više ne bi trebalo primenjivati?
Da li je kazino u stanju da potkrepi svoje tvrdnje i odluku relevantnim dokazima i primenjenim pravilima?
Međutim, imajte na umu da ako je korisnik ispunio sve uslove za bonus i da je njegov dobitak (40 €) pretvoren u saldo stvarnog novca, nije bilo razloga da se primenjuju pravila bonusa na naknadno akumulirane dobitke. U slučaju da se pravila bonusa primenjuju čak i nakon što su ispunjeni VR-ovi i dobici pretvoreni u saldo stvarnog novca, ili igrači moraju da povuku svoje dobitke i polože ih nazad u kazino da bi nastavili da igraju - kako se igrači dodatno (osim pravila u Uputstvima i uslovima kazina ako postoji) informišu o tome?
Slobodno pošaljite potrebne detalje i prateće dokaze na moju adresu e-pošte ( branislav.b@casino.guru ).
Hvala.
Hello, genti621,
I am sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience and apologize for the delay. I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
Now I would like to invite the casino representative to join this conversation and participate in resolving this complaint.
Dear Gamblezen Casino team,
Could you please explain the player's situation in more detail? Why have the user's funds been capped 2x and winnings of €60 confiscated if they were already considered a real money balance, so bonus rules should not be applied anymore?
Is the casino able to substantiate its claims and decision with relevant evidence and applied rules?
However, please note if the user had met all the bonus requirements and his winnings (€40) were converted to a real money balance, there was no reason to apply bonus rules to the subsequently accumulated winnings. In case the bonus rules apply even after the WRs are met and winnings converted to a real money balance, or players need to withdraw their winnings and deposit them back to the casino to continue playing - how are players additionally (besides a rule in the casino's Ts&Cs if there is any) informed about it?
Feel free to send the necessary details and supporting evidence to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru).
Maksimalni iznos gotovine za bonus koji ste zatražili i iskoristili je bio €40, genti621 . Maksimalni iznos od 100 € primenjuje se za besplatne okrete sa depozitom. Pravila koja ste dobili u e-poruci preovlađuju, pa se stoga primenjuje maksimalna isplata od 40 €. U svakom slučaju, još uvek nije potpuno jasno, posebno u vezi sa sistemskim podešavanjima kazina i primenom pravila.
Dragi Gamblezen Casino timu ,
Hvala vam na e-poruci i dodatnim informacijama.
Nažalost, bojim se da na moja pitanja još nije odgovoreno u potpunosti ili uopšte.
Možete li molim vas ponovo pogledati moj prethodni post i odgovoriti na pitanja? Pored toga, da li možete da nam dostavite dnevnike igara korisnika iz dotične sesije?
Slobodno koristite istu e-poštu ( branislav.b@casino.guru ).
Hvala. Radujemo se Vašem odgovoru.
Greetings all,
The maximum cashout for the bonus you claimed and used was €40, genti621. €100 maximum cashout applies for free spins with a deposit. The rules you received in the email prevail, and therefore, the maximum cashout of €40 applies. Anyway, it is still not completely clear, especially regarding the casino's system settings and rules application.
Dear Gamblezen Casino team,
Thank you for your email and additional information.
Unfortunately, I am afraid that my questions have not been answered completely or at all yet.
Can you please look at my previous post again and answer the questions? In addition, can you provide us with the user's game logs from the session in question?
Feel free to use the same email (branislav.b@casino.guru).
To je upravo ono što je drugi put ostvaren profit nakon što su ispunjeni uslovi bonusa (60€ ekstra), koji je razlog da povučete 40€ i zatim ponovo uplatite da biste mogli da nastavite da igrate u ovom kazinu?
Takođe nije bilo unapred obaveštenja da se ne nastavi sa igranjem jer je to ionako bilo gubljenje vremena i očigledno novca.
Na kraju, želim da napomenem da u zapisniku nema dokaza da je ovaj novac izvučen, jednostavno je nestao.
Po mom mišljenju to je malo apsurdno.
Hvala.
This is exactly what the profits the second time were achieved after the bonus conditions had been met (60€ extra), what is the reason to withdraw the 40€ and then deposit again so that you can continue playing at this casino?
There was also no advance notice to not continue playing since it was a waste of time and apparently money anyway.
Finally, I would like to note that there is no evidence in the record that this money was removed, it simply disappeared.
It's a bit absurd in my opinion.
Thanks.
Αυτό ακριβώς τα κέρδη την δεύτερη φορά επιτεύχθηκαν αφού είχαν εκπληρωθεί οι προϋποθέσεις του μπόνους ( 60€ επιπλέον) , ποιος ο λόγος να αποσύρεις τα 40 € και μετά να ξανά καταθέσεις έτσι ώστε να συνεχίσεις να παίξεις σε αυτό το καζίνο?
Επίσης δεν υπήρχε ενημέρωση εκ των προτέρων να μην συνεχίσω να παίζω αφού όπως και να έχει ήταν χάσιμο χρόνου και όπως φαίνεται και χρημάτων.
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Sa moje tačke gledišta, incident se smatra uspešnim i može se zatvoriti.
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Εντάξει, τα χρήματα μπήκαν στον λογαριασμό μου.
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