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Dragi Waj,
Hvala vam puno na podnošenju žalbe. Žao mi je što čujem o vašem problemu. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih mogao u potpunosti razumjeti cijelu situaciju. Jeste li pokušali komunicirati o ovom pitanju s kockarnicom? Ako imate bilo kakvu relevantnu komunikaciju, prosledite je na petronela.k@casino.guru . Jeste li sakupili dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa? Koliko je trenutno vaš aktivni saldo? Nadam se da ćemo vam moći pomoći da rešite ovo pitanje što je pre moguće. Unaprijed hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear Waj,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Have you tried to communicate this issue with the casino? If there’s any relevant communication, please forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru. Have you accumulated your winnings with or without an active bonus? How much is your active balance now? I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Nije bilo aktivnog bonusa, moj saldo je bio 0 USD i deponirao sam bez bonusa. 9935 $ bila je moja dobit i pristup za povlačenje koje je čekalo. Položio sam 33 puta više od poslednja dva po 100 i 75 USD svaki put kada sam ga položio, tražio je da vratim sredstva koja nisam uradio i uradio depozite. Provjerio sam sve dokumente. Poslao sam broj e-mailova i timu za sporove koji me obavještavaju da sigurnosni tim ovo traži. Zamolio sam da razgovaram sa šefom. Tim za chat kojeg savjetuju svima je na daljinu zbog COVID 19 što ne možemo. Nakon 40 puta razgovora zatvorili su mi račun i obavijestili me da je vaš račun onemogućen i zatvoren iz sigurnosnih razloga i zatražili da izbrišem sve snimke sa zaslona. Tim za sigurnost uvijek ima drugačiju priču. A sada istražujem problem sa softverom.
There was no bonus active my balance was $0 and I deposited with no bonus . $9935 was my winnings and accesses for withdrawal it was pending. I have deposited over 33 times the last two were $100 and $75 every time I deposited it asked me to reverse the funds which I did not do and did the deposits. I have verified all documents. l have send number of emails as well to the disputes team they inform me security team is looking in this. I asked to speak to a Boss. Chat team they advice everyone is remotely due to COVID 19 we can’t. After 40 times of chats they have closed my account and informed me that your account is disabled and closed for security reason and asked to delete all screen shots.Security team always have a different story And now investigating the software issue.
Puno vam hvala Waj na pružanju svih potrebnih informacija. Sada ću proslijediti vašu žalbu mom kolegi Nicku koji će vam biti na raspolaganju. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da ćemo u skoroj budućnosti riješiti svoj problem.
Thank you very much Waj for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Nick who will be at your assistance. I wish you best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Bok Nick i Petronela,
Da račun
je blokiran kao i u svakoj potvrdi s računa klijenta
kompromitirani poduzimamo potrebne mjere opreza a to je zaključavanje računa
radi daljeg pregleda. Iako je račun zaključan, trudimo se da uđemo
kontaktirajte s klijentom kako biste dobili što je moguće više informacija koje bi nam mogle pomoći
rješavanje problema. Sa klijentom smo bili u kontaktu i na nekim
slučajevi da su nam se pozivi obrušili. Imam detaljne informacije u vezi sa
istrage i poslat ćemo ove informacije Petroneli putem e-maila ili Nicka možete
dostavite mi vašu e-poštu.
Hi Nick and Petronela,
Yes the account
has been blocked as in any confirmation from the client stating account
compromised we take the necessary precautions and that is to lock the account
for further review. While the account is locked we try our best to get in
contact with the client to get as much information as possible to assist us in
resolving the issue. We have been in contact with the client and on some
instances having the calls dropped on us. I have detailed info regarding the
investigation and will sent this info to Petronela via e-mail or Nick can you
supply me with your e-mail.
Bit šef je blokirao moj račun, sredstva su čekala 9935 USD. Dakle, blokirao je račun dok sam ja razgovarao s njim poslao sam e-poštu na sporove bez odgovora. Tim za chat završava chat i pozive kad kažem koji je vaš broj licence za koji je chat završen, nije bilo poziva. Nema propuštenih poziva. Optužujete me da sam ugrozio vlastiti račun. Naveli ste slučajeve samo jednom kada se poziv prekinuo kada sam tražio vaš broj licence. Idemo u krugovima u kojima sam deponirao potvrđeni račun. To je bio prvi put da se povučem i da se to dogodi. Položio sam 100 i 75 dolara, izjavljujete da sam vratio sredstva koja su im igrali, a zatim sam uložio 100 i 75 dolara. Što nisam, oni su čekali 9935 USD i deponirao sam 100 i 75 dolara. Sigurnost je rekla da traže izdavanje softverske opreme i da ne zovu niti jedan poziv.
Poslat ću snimke zaslona guruu kazina.
Razgovarao sam sa chatovima 4 do 5 puta dnevno, oni mi uvijek kažu da nema povratnih informacija.
pls poziv je odustao jednom kada sam zatražio da vam se izdaje broj licence, znači više puta, često se to dogodilo samo 1 put i nijedan odgovor, jurnjavam ovim putem i imam više snimaka ekrana od 1. dana. jedan je vratio imejl.
oprosti što ponavljam sebe ali ljut sam
Uvijek ne dobivam povratne informacije i povratne informacije ne dopuštaju 24 sata, a zatim 48 sati, a onda subota i nedjelja dolaze u ponedjeljak. Ponedeljak dolazi omogućava 24 sata, a zatim 5 sati i još uvijek nema povratnih informacija. Čekao sam kao što je obećao telefonski poziv iz obezbeđenja istrage. Posljednji poziv optužen je za preokret i tada depozite. Kad sam mu pokazao prof vremena depozita i sredstva su još uvijek čekala, kažu žao greške, zovemo vas. Želim da se to riješi i džokera koji je vaš broj licence.
Bit boss has blocked my account the funds were pending $9935. So he blocked the account while I was on chat with him I have send emails to disputes no response. The chat team ends the chat and the calls when I say what’s your licence number the chat ends was promised a call back no calls were made. No missed calls. You are accusing me of I have compromised my own account. You state instances just one time the call hanged up when I asked for your license number. We are going in circles I have deposited vertified my account. That was the first time I did a withdrawal and that happens. I deposited $100 and $75 you state that I reversed the funds played them then I deposited $100 and $75. Which I did not they were pending $9935 and I deposited the $100 and $75. Security said they are looking in soft ware issue and no calls one call.
i will send screenshots to the casino guru.
i have been talking to chats 4 to 5 times a day they always tell me no feedback.
pls the call was dropped once when I asked for your license number instances means more then often it only happened 1 time and no reply I have been chasing this up and have multiple screenshots shots from day 1. I have send a email to disputes email no one has returned a email.
sorry to repeat my self but I am angry
I always get no feedback and no feedback allow 24 hours then allow 48 hours then Saturday and Sunday comes allow on Monday. Monday comes allows 24 hours then 5 hours and still no feedback. I was waiting as promised a phone call from investigation security. Last call was accused of reversal then doing the deposits. When I showed him prof of times of deposits and the funds were still pending they say sorry mistake we call you back. I want this to be resolved and jokaroom what is your license number.
Dragi Waj888,
Od kazina smo dobili dokaze da je vaš saldo smanjen na 0 € igranjem igrica. To znači da u trenutku zatvaranja računa niste tamo imali nikakav bilans, tako da nemate pravo na povrat novca.
Žao nam je što vam u ovom slučaju nismo mogli više pomoći. Možemo li još nešto učiniti za vas?
Dear Waj888,
We have received evidence from the casino that your balance was reduced to 0€ by playing slot games. That means that at the time your account was closed you did not have any balance there thus you are not entitled for any refund.
We are sorry that we could not help you more in this case. Is there anything else we can do for you?
Položio sam 100 USD i 75 USD, dok je 9935 $ bio na čekanju i nisam vratio sredstva. Tim za razgovor rekao mi je da je tvoj račun ugrožen i da se neko prijavio. Kažu mi da je račun imao 10 USD od 9935 dolara i da izgleda da je netko kupio bonus od 9935 dolara, a jedan bonus je kupljen na 7000 dolara. Bitni šef mi je zatvorio račun. Izjavljujem da je 9935 dolara u obradi. Kažu da ste tada igrali deponovali 100 i 75 dolara što nije tačno. Položio sam 75 i 100 dolara, a 9935 dolara na čekanju. Konačno idem u krugove i na mom računu je rečeno da je 10 dolara, a ne 0 dolara, a ne u eurima u dolarima
Ako kažete da nemate pravo na povraćaj novca. Želim da moj dobitak ne bude povrat
oprosti, Nicko kad mi se zatvorio račun bilo je 10 USD i nešto centa od $ 9935. Tim za chat me savjetuje i šef kaže da je izdavanje softverske opreme i račun je. 100% ugrožen.
I deposited $100 and$75 the $9935 was pending AND DID NOT REVERSE THE FUNDS. The chat team told me your account was compromised and that someone logged in. They tell me the account had $10 from the $9935 and that it looks that someone has bought bonus from the $9935 one bonus was bought at $7000. The bit boss closed my account. I state the $9935 was in pending form. They say you played then deposited the $100 and $75 that is not true I deposited the $75 and $100 and the $9935 were pending. Final I am going in circles and my account told was $10 not $0 and not in euro it’s in aus dollars
Nick you say thus you are not entitled for any refund. I want my winnings not a refunds
sorry nick when my account was closed there was $10 and some cents from the $9935. Chat team advices me and there boss say soft ware issue and account is. 100% was compromised.
Trenutno smo u kontaktu s kasinom radi dalje istrage. Zatražili smo dokaze o vašoj povijesti prijava u kasinu kako bismo saznali je li netko drugi koristio vaš račun i tamo izgubio sredstva.
We are currently in contact with the casino for further investigation. We have asked for evidence of your casino's login history to find out if someone else used your account and lost the funds there.
Zdravo momci,
Poslali smo povijest igranja i računali za dubinsku reviziju i vratit ćemo vam se jednom kada ih primite.
Pozdravi
Levi
Hi guys,
We have sent the players gaming history and account for an in-depth audit and will get back to you once received.
Regards
Levi
Zdravo momci,
Želeli bismo da ovo pitanje obeležimo zatvorenim jer je klijent osporio sve depozite u svojoj banci. Primili smo obavještenja od banke i nadmetat ćemo se.
Pozdravi
Levi
Hi guys,
We would like to mark this issue as closed as client has disputed all deposits with his bank. We received the bank notifications and will be contesting.
Regards
Levi
Sijem ovo na forumu od strane casino gurua U očajničkoj situaciji uvijek postoji rješenje:
https://mychargeback.com/ - Ova kompanija vrši povrat novca. Ako je od transakcije prošlo manje od 90 dana, možete ih kontaktirati i objasniti im šta se dogodilo - vrše povrat novca u slučaju da kazino nema licencu ili u slučaju lažne dozvole regulatora ((Joka Room Case)
Morao sam ići tim putem - Depoziti su bili ispod 3k. Želim da mi zarade preko 9k. Prolazio sam u krugovima.
zadnji put koji je tvoj broj licence.?
I sow this in forum by casino guru In a desperate situation, there is always a solution:
https://mychargeback.com/ - This company is doing a chargeback. If it is less than 90 days from the transaction happened then you can contact them and explain to them what happened - they are doing chargebacks in cases that casino doesn't have a license or in case of lousy regulator license, (Joka Room Case)
I had to go to this path -The deposits were under 3k I want my winnings over 9k I have been going in circles.
last time what is your license number.?
Hvala timu Gurua na pomoći u ovom upitu. To je očito namjera klijenta, čak i da smo mu platili klijenta, on bi i dalje pregovarao. Ovo je prevara i poduzimamo potrebne korake.
Thank you to the Guru team for your assistance in this query. This is clearly the intention of the client even if we had paid the client, he would have still went and dispute. This is fraud and we are taking the necessary steps.
Neću praviti spor zbog depozita ako ste mi uplatili dobitak, nemojte me optuživati za tu sobu za džokere. Ponovno kažem koji je vaš broj licence Joka soba 9. put Isplatite mi dobitak i otkažem sporove s bankom.
I will not have made a dispute for the deposits if you have paid my winnings don’t accuse me of that joka room. I say again what is your license number Joka room for the 9th time Pay me my winnings and I cancel the disputes with bank.
Nakon daljnje istrage primljenih dokumenata, još uvijek bismo zahtijevali više dokaza. Posljednji zapis pokazuje samo da je igrač imao neuspješne prijave na svoje račune vjerojatno čak i s različitih IP adresa, ali još uvijek ne pokazuje da ima više računa. Postoji li veza između ovog igrača i bilo kojeg drugog računa kasina zbog čega ste zaključili da je igrač stvorio više računa?
After further investigation of the received documents, we would still require more proof. The last log only shows, that the player had some unsuccessful logins into his accounts probably even from different IP addresses, but it still doesn't show that he has multiple accounts. Is there any conection between this player and any other casino account which leads to your conclusion that the player has created multiple accounts?
Imam samo jedan račun u sobi Joka. Voleo bih da imam svoj dobitak. Potvrdio sam svaku stvar. Nadam se da će se stvar riješiti, molim kazino Gurua. Vidim da sada postoji više računa što je šala. Moj je račun ugrožen i sada vidim da postoji više računa zbog kojih mi je mučno i lažu. Bez prekršaja pls
I have just one account with Joka room. I will like to have my winnings. I have verified every single thing. I hope the matter resolves please casino Guru. I see now there are multiple accounts that is a joke.My account was compromised and now i see there are multiple accounts I feel sick and being lied to. No offence pls
Zdravo Nick,
Nije baš razumljivo kad kažete da igrač ima više računa. Ne mogu se sjetiti da sam spomenuo klijenta koji ima više računa.
Hi Nick,
Not really understand when you say player has multiple accounts. I cannot recall mentioning the client having multiple accounts.
Ispraviti moj prethodni post, značenjem da nam je potreban dodatni dokaz, bilo je zbog toga što smo iz primljenog dnevnika pretpostavili da se igrač jednostavno prijavljuje na svoj račun za igru sa različitih IP adresa ili različitih uređaja. Kako nema nijednog drugog računa povezan s bilo kojom od IP adresa, željeli smo vidjeti relevantniji dokaz korištenja VPN-a od strane igrača.
Dragi Waj888,
Jeste li kontaktirali kompaniju radi naplate troškova?
To correct my previous post, by meaning that we required more proof, was because from the received log we assumed that the player was simply logging into his game account from different IP addresses or different devices. As there was no other account connected to any of the IP addresses, we wanted to see a more relevant proof of using VPN by the player.
Dear Waj888,
Did you contact the company for charge back?
Moje dobitke od 9935 dolara želim ih. Moj je račun ugrožen i da čekam povrat novca.
Kontaktirao sam svoju banku radi povrata novca jer nisam dobio dobit.
Kad položite i pobijedite, morate dobiti dobitak od kojeg ja nemam ništa.
Položio sam sve zajedno 2812 dolara.
moj dobitak bio je 9935 dolara koje Joka sobi treba platiti 7123 dolara. Ako dobijem povrat novca
9935 USD - 2812 USD = 7123 USD. Ako ne dobijem povrat novca, oni moraju platiti 9935 USD. Ako opet dobijem povrat novca, oni trebaju platiti 7123 dolara
Na pitanje nije odgovoreno moj račun je ugrožen i nisam zadovoljan. 9935 $ je nestalo.
Joka soba Želim dokaz dovoljan dokaz, jer želim svoj dobitak.
Casino Guru opisao je Joka Room !!
Želeli smo da vidimo relevantniji dokaz korišćenja VPN-a od strane igrača?
Nadam se da nećemo ići u krugove ..
My $9935 winnings I want them. My account was compromised and yes waiting for chargeback.
I have contacted my bank for chargeback because I did not get my winnings.
When you deposit and you win you need to get the winnings which I have got nothing.
I deposited all together $2812.
my winnings were $9935 which Joka room need to pay $7123. If I get the chargeback.
$9935 - $ $2812 = $7123. If I don’t get the chargeback they need to pay $9935. Again if I get the chargeback they need to pay $7123
The question has not been Answered my account was compromised and I’m not happy $9935 were gone.
Joka room I want proof sufficient evidence as I want my winnings.
Casino Guru has outlined to Joka Room!!
We wanted to see a more relevant proof of using VPN by the player?
Hopefully we will not go in circles..
Dragi Waj888 ,
Imajte na umu da mi ne biramo strane. Samo želimo biti sigurni da je sve pravilno izvedeno u skladu s našim kodeksom fer kockanja kao i terminima kockarnica.
Želio bih pitati Joka Room postoji li mogućnost da nam pošalje relevantniji dokaz o korištenju VPN-a od strane igrača, jer prethodni dokument to ne pokazuje jasno. Pošaljite ga na nikolas.b@guruadmins.com
Dear Waj888,
Please note that we are not picking sides. We just want to make sure that everything is done correctly according to our Fair gambling codex as well as casino terms.
I would like to ask Joka Room if there is any possibility to send us a more relevant proof of using a VPN by the player as the previous document doesn't show it clearly. Please send it to nikolas.b@guruadmins.com
Od kazina nismo dobili nikakav odgovor. Sada tajmer produžujemo za 7 dana. Ako ne odgovori na naš zahtjev, zatvorit ćemo žalbu kao "neriješenu"
We haven' receive any answer from the casino. We are now extending the timer by 7 days. If the fails to answer on our request, we will close the complaint as "unresolved"
Sada žalbu zaključujemo kao „neriješenu" jer nam kasino nije uspio odgovoriti. Zaista mi je žao što vam nismo mogli više pomoći u vašem slučaju, ali mogu vas uvjeriti da će to utjecati na reputaciju i rejting kasina.
Molimo vas, ne ustručavajte se kontaktirati nas ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme u furutreu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Nick
Casino.guru
We are now closing the complaint as "unresolved" as the casino failed to answer us. I'm really sorry that we could not help you more with your case, but I can assure you that it will affect the casino's reputation and rating.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you will come across any trouble in the furutre.
Best regards,
Nick
Casino.guru
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