The player from Germany requested a permanent account closure due to gambling addiction in December, but the account was reopened without her consent. After losing 500 euros upon reopening, she requests a refund, citing her previous communication about her gambling issues.
Igračica iz Nemačke je u decembru zatražila trajno zatvaranje naloga zbog zavisnosti od kockanja, ali je nalog ponovo otvoren bez njenog pristanka. Nakon što je nakon ponovnog otvaranja izgubila 500 evra, ona zahteva povraćaj novca, navodeći svoju prethodnu komunikaciju o svojim problemima sa kockanjem.
Zdravo, 21. decembra zatražio sam od Kingmakera da trajno zatvori moj nalog zbog zavisnosti od kockanja (pre toga sam ih nekoliko puta tražio da ga zatvore, a nakon mog poslednjeg mejla, moj nalog je zatvoren). Prošle nedelje sam dobio mejl da je nalog ponovo otvoren i nisam mogao da odolim iskušenju, izgubivši 500 evra. Želeo bih da zatražim povraćaj novca, jer sam u decembru jasno rekao da sam razvio zavisnost od kockanja i da želim da se račun zatvori. Nadam se vašoj podršci. Hvala vam puno!
Hello, on December 21st, I asked Kingmaker to permanently close my account due to gambling addiction (I had asked them several times before to close it, and after my last email, my account was closed). Last week, I received an email that the account was reopened and I couldn't resist the temptation, losing 500 euros. I would like to request a refund, as I clearly communicated in December that I have developed a gambling addiction and wanted the account to be closed. I hope for your support. Thank you very much!
Hallo, am 21.12 bat ich Kingmaker mein Konto aufgrund Spielsucht dauerhaft zu schliessen (ich habe davor schon etliche mal darum gebeten, das Konto zu schließen, nach meiner letzten Email wurde mein Konto geschlossen). Nun habe ich letzte Woche eine email erhalten, dass das Konto wieder eröffnet wurde und ich konnte der Versuchung nicht widerstehen und habe 500.- Euro verloren. Ich möchte nun das Geld zurückfordern, da ich im Dezember klar kommuniziert habe, dass ich eine Spielsucht wentiwckel habe und das Konto geschlossen werden soll. Ich hoffe auf Ihre Unterstützung, vielen Dank!
Draga zeninosila,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Veoma mi je žao što čujem za vaše negativno iskustvo. Proverio sam odeljak Odgovorno igranje i našao sam ovo:
Zahtev za samoisključivanje: možete kontaktirati tim za podršku putem e-pošte: support@kingmaker.com , a mi ćemo zatvoriti vaš nalog u naredna 24 sata. Odgovornost igrača je da obavesti našu veb stranicu o svim drugim računima koje igrač može imati i obećati da neće otvarati druge naloge. Naša veb stranica će uložiti razumne napore da pokuša da spreči otvaranje novih naloga, ali je isključiva odgovornost igrača da se pobrine da se ne otvaraju drugi nalozi. Naša veb lokacija ne može se smatrati odgovornom za potencijalne gubitke na drugim računima;
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste mogli da pristupite istom nalogu? Da li trenutno možete da se prijavite na svoj nalog?
Hvala vam puno unapred.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear zeninosilla,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience. I checked the Responsible Gaming section and I found this:
Self-exclusion request: you can contact Support Service Team via e-mail: support@kingmaker.com, and we will close your account within next 24 hours. It's the player's responsibility to notify our Website of any other accounts the player might have and promise not to open any other accounts. Our Website will make reasonable efforts to try to prevent the opening of new accounts but it's the player's sole responsibility to make sure no other accounts are created. Our Website cannot be held accountable for potential losses on other accounts;
Do I understand correctly that you were able to access the same account? Are you currently able to log into your account?
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
Kristina
Da, to je tačno – iako sam nekoliko puta tražio zatvaranje (prvi put 27. oktobra 2024.), račun je zatvoren (privremeno) tek krajem decembra. Ukupno sam izgubio oko 2.500 evra od prvog zahteva za zatvaranje računa. Sada, kada je račun ponovo otvoren bez mog traženja, izgubio sam 500 evra. Međutim, zavisnost od kockanja sam naveo samo kao razlog 21. decembra 2024. Ali teoretski, račun je trebalo da bude zatvoren 24 sata nakon mog prvog zahteva i ne bih imao gubitak od 2.500 evra. U prilogu je snimak moje istorije e-pošte sa zahtevom za zatvaranje naloga. MOLIM VAS da ne objavljujete ovaj odgovor!
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Yes, that's correct - although I asked for closure several times (first time on October 27, 2024), the account was only closed (temporarily) at the end of December. In total, I have lost around 2,500 euros since the first request to close the account. Now, when the account was reopened without my asking, I have lost 500 euros. However, I only gave gambling addiction as the reason on December 21, 2024. But theoretically, the account should have been closed 24 hours after my first request and I would not have had the loss of 2,500 euros. Attached is a screenshot of my email history with a request to close the account. PLEASE do not publish this answer!
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Ja, das ist korrekt - obwohl ich mehrfach um Schließung gebeten habe (erstmalig am 27.10.2024), wurde das Konto erst Ende Dezember geschlossen (vorübergehend). In Summe habe ich seit der ersten Anfrage, das Konto zu schließen ca. 2.500.- Euro verloren. Jetzt, als das Konto ungefragt wieder eröffnet wurde, habe ich 500.- Euro verloren. Allerdings habe ich erst am 21.12.2024 als Grund Spielsucht angegeben. Aber Theoretisch hätte das Konto ja bereits 24 Stunden nach meiner ersten Anfrage geschlossen werden sollen und ich hätte nicht den Verlust in Höhe von 2.500.- Euro gehabt. Anbei ein Screenshot meines Email Verlaufs mit Bitte der Kontoschließung. BITTE veröffentlichen Sie diese Antwort nicht!
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Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, zeninosilla. Pa, nažalost, možemo razmotriti da zatražimo povraćaj samo za one depozite koji su napravljeni nakon što ste jasno obavestili kazino o svom problemu sa kockanjem.
Možete li pojasniti da li još uvek imate pristup ovom nalogu?
Pored toga, prosledite svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na kristina.s@casino.guru . Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, zeninosilla. Well, unfortunately, we can consider requesting a refund only for those deposits that were made after you clearly informed the casino about your gambling problem.
Could you please clarify if you still have access to this account?
Additionally, please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru. Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Zdravo, hvala vam na povratnim informacijama. Jasno sam obavestio kazino o svom problemu sa kockanjem 21. decembra 2024. Da, još uvek imam pristup ovom nalogu. Gubitak koji imam od tada ili depoziti su najmanje 500 (eventualno 600 evra), što ne mogu da vidim. Prosledio sam vam mejl. Evo snimka ekrana (molimo da ga ne objavljujete).
Hello, thank you for your feedback. I clearly informed the casino about my gambling problem on December 21, 2024. Yes, I still have access to this account. The loss I have had since then, or the deposits, are at least 500 (possibly 600 euros), which I cannot see. I have forwarded the email to you. Here is a screenshot (please do not make it public).
Hallo, vielen Dank für die Rückmeldung. Ich habe das Casino am 21.12.2024 eindeutig über mein Glückspielproblem informiert. Ja, ich habe immer noch Zugriff auf dieses Konto. Der Verlust, den ich seitdem habe, bzw. die Einzahlungen sind mindestens 500,. )möglicherweise 600.- Euro), das kann ich nicht einsehen. Ich habe Ihnen die Email weitergeleitet . Hier auch ein Screenshot (bitte nicht öffentlich machen).
*Dodatak: račun je od tada zatvoren. Stoga više ne mogu da vidim koliki je bio gubitak nakon što je račun ponovo otvoren bez ovlašćenja.
*Addendum: the account has since been closed. I can therefore no longer see how high the loss was after the account was reopened without authorization.
*Nachtrag: das Konto wurde mittlerweile geschlossen. Ich kann somit nicht mehr einsehen, wie hoch der Verlust nach unberechtigter Kontowiedereröffnung war.
Hvala vam puno, zeninosilla, na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( michal.v@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, zeninosilla, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.v@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo zeninosila,
Moje ime je Michal i ja ću vam pomoći u vašem slučaju. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno doći do uspešnog rešenja vašeg problema.
Želeo bih da zatražim prisustvo predstavnika kazina u ovom razgovoru.
Dragi Kingmaker kazino ,
Da li biste mogli da pružite dodatne informacije u vezi sa ovim pitanjem i razjasnite situaciju? Takođe bih vam bio zahvalan ako biste nam dostavili sve relevantne dokaze.
Hvala unapred.
S poštovanjem,
Michal
Hello zeninosilla,
My name is Michal and I will be assisting you with your case. I hope that together we will come to a successful resolution of your issue.
I would like to request the presence of a representative from the casino in this conversation.
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate it if you provided us with any and all relevant evidence.
Thank you in advance.
Respectfully,
Michal
dragi svi,
Hvala vam što ste nas kontaktirali. Imajte na umu da interno proveravamo problem i da ćemo vam se javiti što je pre moguće.
Srdačan pozdrav
Kingmaker Team
Dear all,
Thank you for contacting us. Kindly be informed that we are checking the issue internally and we will get back to you as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Kingmaker Team
Hvala, Kingmaker kazino.
Čekamo vaš odgovor.
Thank you, Kingmaker Casino.
We are waiting for your reply.
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dragi svi,
Hvala vam na strpljenju. Obaveštavamo vas da smo, nakon što smo sproveli detaljnu istragu o vašem zahtevu, zaključili da refundiramo 500 evra koje klijent traži. Imajte na umu da je klijent kontaktiran putem e-pošte i ljubazno bismo ga zamolili da odgovori na našu e-poštu.
Srdačan pozdrav
Kingmaker Team
Dear all,
Thank you for your patience. Kindly be informed that after we have conducted a thorough investigation into your claim, we have concluded to issue a refund of the 500 euro the customer is requesting. Please note that the customer had been contacted on email and we would kindly ask him to reply to our email.
Best Regards
Kingmaker Team
Dragi Kingmaker timu, hvala vam puno na saradnji! Već sam primio e-poštu. Međutim, želeo bih da još jednom proverim sa vama koji sam iznos zapravo zaradio između vremena kada je moj nalog ponovo otvoren (bez moje saglasnosti) i trenutka kada je konačno zatvoren. Po mom mišljenju, ovi depoziti su bili veći od 500 evra.
Pošto nemam pristup svom nalogu, ne mogu da vidim ovo. Hvala vam!
Dear Kingmaker team, thank you very much for your cooperation! I have already received the email. However, I would like to double check with you what amount I actually made between the time my account was reopened (without my consent) and the time it was finally closed. In my opinion, these deposits were higher than 500 euros.
Since I don't have access to my account, I can't see this. Thank you!
Liebes Kingmaker Team, herzlichen Dank für Euer Entgegenkommen! Ich habe die Email bereits erhalten. Jedoch möchte ich gerne einmal mit Euch Doppel checken, welchen Betrag ich tatsächlich vom Zeitpunkt der Wiedereröffnung meines Kontos (ohne meine Zustimmung) bis zur endgültigen Schließung getätigt habe, diese Einzahlungen waren m.E. höher als 500 Euro.
Da ich keinen Zugriff auf mein Konto habe, kann ich das nicht einsehen. Vielen Dank!
Draga zeninosila,
Da li biste mogli da vidite iznos depozita na izvodu banke? Možete samo filtrirati uplate izvršene kazinu i dodati te transakcije zajedno. To bi vam dalo pun iznos koji ste deponovali u kazinu.
Dear zeninosilla,
Would it be possible for you to see the amount of deposits from the bank statement? You could just filter out the payments made to the casino and add those transactions together. That would give you the full amount that you deposited to the casino.
Dragi Mihal,
Nažalost, ne mogu sa sigurnošću da tvrdim na osnovu mojih bankovnih izvoda, pošto „Kingmaker" nije zabeležen u transakcijama i ne mogu da ih filtriram. Mislim da kazino ne bi trebalo da ima problema da utvrdi koliko sam depozita napravio od 29. januara 2025. (datum kada je račun ponovo otvoren bez moje saglasnosti).
Hvala vam puno, srdačan pozdrav
Dear Michal,
Unfortunately, I can't say for sure based on my bank statements, as "Kingmaker" isn't noted in the transactions and I can't filter them. I think the casino should have no problem determining how many deposits I made since January 29, 2025 (the date the account was reopened without my consent).
Thank you very much, best regards
Lieber Michal,
leider kann ich das anhand meiner Kontoauszüge nicht konkret sagen, da bei den Transaktionen nicht "Kingmaker" vermerkt ist und ich somit nicht filtern kann. Ich denke, das Casino sollte problemlos ermitteln können, wie viele Einzahlungen ich getätigt habe ab dem 29.01.2025 (das Datum an dem das Konto ohne meine Zustimmung wieder eröffnet wurde).
Vielen Dank, liebe Grüße
Zdravo Kingmaker kazino,
Mogu li dobiti odgovor na ovo:
Međutim, želeo bih da još jednom proverim sa vama koji iznos sam zapravo zaradio između vremena kada je moj nalog ponovo otvoren (bez moje saglasnosti) i trenutka kada je konačno zatvoren. Po mom mišljenju, ovi depoziti su bili veći od 500 evra.
Pošto nemam pristup svom nalogu, ne mogu da vidim ovo. Hvala vam!
Hvala!
Hello Kingmaker Casino,
Could I please get an answer to this:
However, I would like to double-check with you what amount I actually made between the time my account was reopened (without my consent) and the time it was finally closed. In my opinion, these deposits were higher than 500 euros.
Since I don't have access to my account, I can't see this. Thank you!
Thanks!
Hallo Kingmaker Casino,
könnte ich bitte diesbezüglich eine Antwort erhalten:
Jedoch möchte ich gerne einmal mit Euch Doppel checken, welchen Betrag ich tatsächlich vom Zeitpunkt der Wiedereröffnung meines Kontos (ohne meine Zustimmung) bis zur endgültigen Schließung getätigt habe, diese Einzahlungen waren m.E. höher als 500 Euro.
Da ich keinen Zugriff auf mein Konto habe, kann ich das nicht einsehen. Vielen Dank!
Danke!
Dragi Kingmaker kazino,
Da li je suma od 500 evra puna suma depozita igrača koje su napravili nakon ponovnog otvaranja računa?
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Is the sum of 500 euros the full amount of the player's deposits that they made after reopening of their account?
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
dragi svi,
Hvala vam na strpljenju. Obaveštavamo vas da smo duplo provereni depoziti klijenata i oni iznose 1065 EUR i zaključili smo da refundiramo pun iznos. Imajte na umu da je klijent kontaktiran putem e-pošte i ljubazno bismo ga zamolili da odgovori na našu e-poštu.
Srdačan pozdrav
Kingmaker Team
Dear all,
Thank you for your patience.Kindly be informed that we had double checked customer deposits and they are 1065 EUR we have concluded to issue a refund of the full amount. Please note that the customer had been contacted on email and we would kindly ask him to reply to our email.
Best Regards
Kingmaker Team
Dragi Kingmaker timu, hvala vam puno. Primio sam e-poštu i već sam odgovorio sa svim traženim informacijama. Sada čekam odgovor od vas. Srdačan pozdrav
Dear Kingmaker team, thank you very much. I have received the email and have already replied with all the requested information. Now I am waiting for a response from you. Best regards
Liebes Kingmaker Team, vielen dank. Ich habe die Email erhalten und bereits mit allen geforderten Informationen beantwortet. Nun warte ich auf Rückmeldung ihrerseits. Beste Grüße
Draga zeninosila,
Možete li mi dati najnovije informacije o situaciji?
Dear zeninosilla,
Could you give me an update on the situation?
Zdravo, poslao sam tražene informacije Kingmaker-u putem e-pošte (ime, bankovni podaci, itd.), ali još nisam dobio nikakav odgovor.
Kingmaker je napisao da će mi, kada dobiju sve informacije od mene, poslati izuzeće da potpišem. još nisam dobio.
Srdačan pozdrav
Hello, I sent the requested information to Kingmaker by email (name, bank details, etc.), but have not received any response yet.
Kingmaker wrote that once they received all the information from me, they would send me a waiver to sign. I have not received it yet.
Best regards
Hallo, ich habe die gewünschten Informationen an Kingmaker per email geschickt (Name, Bankverbindung, etc), habe jedoch bisher noch keine Rückmeldung.
Kingmaker schrieb, sobald sie alle Informationen von mir erhalten haben, würden Sie mir einen waiver schicken, den ich unterschreiben muss. Diesen habe ich bisher nicht erhalten.
Viele Grüße
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Dragi Kingmaker kazino,
Možete li nam dati neke informacije o situaciji?
Thank you for the update.
Dear Kingmaker Casino,
Could you give us some information about the situation?
Zdravo, danas sam primio povraćaj novca. Slučaj se sada može zatvoriti. Hvala vam na pomoći i hvala Kingmaker kazinu!
Hello, I received the refund today. The case can now be closed. Thank you for your help, and thank you Kingmaker Casino!
Hallo, ich habe die Rückerstattung heute erhalten. Der Fall kann nun geschlossen werden. Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe und vielen Dank Kingmaker Casino!
Draga zeninosila,
Drago nam je da čujemo da je vaš problem rešen, a žalbu ćemo označiti kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Hvala vam na saradnji i potvrdi. Nadamo se da su predlozi i objašnjenja koja smo dali bili od pomoći u rešavanju problema. Ako naiđete na bilo kakve dalje poteškoće sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti, ne ustručavajte se da kontaktirate naš centar za rešavanje žalbi. Uvek smo tu da pomognemo.
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Srdačan pozdrav,
Mihal V
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Dear zeninosilla,
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