Igračici iz Australije je poništen dobitak zbog kršenja pravila bonusa. Žalbu smo na kraju zatvorili kao „nerešenu“ jer smatramo da je odluka kazina protiv poštenog kockanja.
The player from Australia had her winnings voided due to breaching bonus rules. We ended up closing the complaint as ‘unresolved’ because we consider the casino's decision to be against fair gambling.
Igračici iz Australije je poništen dobitak zbog kršenja pravila bonusa. Žalbu smo na kraju zatvorili kao „nerešenu“ jer smatramo da je odluka kazina protiv poštenog kockanja.
Bio sam u ovom kazinu za Da li nikada ranije nije napravio povlačenje. Znao sam da neće prihvatiti Australian After 31. januara 2023., tako da sam 30. januara dobio 25 besplatnih okretaja u svojoj e-pošti, jer je nepotrebno reći da sam redovno deponovao sredstva na svoj račun kod njih. Osvojio sam veliku pobedu od 1700 dolara i dobro i istinito prošao kroz uslove za klađenje. Zato sam otišao da se uverim da su svi moji dokumenti verifikovani i ako mi naravno nedostaje dokaz o adresi, da su nakon većeg broja slanja e-pošte konačno izuzeli izvod iz banke, a ne pisma vlade kao što impliciraju da je dovoljno (imao sam da obnovim rego od odeljenja ako je transport bio . Tako su konačno prihvatili bankovni izvod i sve sortirali. Tako da sam pao na iznos od $1100,00 nakon što sam nekoliko puta otkazao isplatu da bih mogao da nastavim da igram.
kao što sam ranije platio povremeno sam se povukao u kripto i cstatus plaćanja je pokazao na čekanju.
Posle 24 sata poslao sam imejl obezbeđenju na adresu kao što je džoker sa pitanjem o mojoj isplati jer sam znao da neće biti operativni članovi Australije nakon što 31. nije dobio odgovor. Poslao sam ponovo e-poštu kasno 31. januara ponovo sa pitanjem da li će isplatu poštovati ili ne. Ponovo sam pročitao uslove i odredbe i onda sam shvatio da kao igrači na različitim nivoima vole da dozvoljavaju samo oko 100$. U svakom slučaju, primio sam e-poruku sa odgovorom danas 1. februara u kojoj se navodi da je moje povlačenje nevažeće zbog činjenice da nisam izvršio depozit u poslednjih pet dana pre nego što sam dobio pobedu. Čudno je da sam pročitao odredbe i uslove besplatnih okretaja ili besplatnih čipova i opštih uslova kazina i ne sećam se da sam video pravilo da se hvala za vašu uplatu mora izvršiti pet dana pre povlačenja. Ipak, naravno, sada je Australija van jurisdikcije. Ne mogu da se prijavim nazad na sajt da ponovo pogledam odredbe i uslove. Administrativno osoblje Moj problem je sada rešen, ali ne verujem da je ovo pošteno. Nikada im nije smetalo da uzmu moj novac, umesto toga mi pravimo depozite, tako da tehnički treba da vrate sve depozite koje sam dao njihovom kazinu koji su takođe naveli je taj sajt koji tvrdi da imaju neke od najvećih procenata, ali ja nikada nisam dobio ni jednu isplatu u godine kao redovni igrač.
Oni su prevaranti i to nije kul, kao što je prethodno rečeno, trebalo bi da mi vrate sve depozite, kao da imam vašu gotovinu na svom računu kao i duh, ne bi mi bilo potrebno pet dana da dobijem kao što bih ja imao više novca na mom računu tako da to jednostavno nema smisla.
i have been with this casino for a Is it never made a withdrawal previously. I knew they were not going to be accepting Australian After 31 January 2023 so on 30 January I received 25 free spins in my email as you needless to say I regularly deposited funds onto my account with them. I had a big win of $1700 , and played through the wagering requirements well & truly. So I went to ensure all my doc’s had been verified and if courseIs my proof of address missing that after substantial emailing back they finally excepted the bank statement and not government letters as they imply is sufficient( I had my rego renewal from dept if transport wa. So finally they accepted bank statement and all sorted. So I was down to an amount of $1100.00 after cancelling withdrawal a few times so I could keep on playing.
as previously paid on occasion I withdrew to crypto and payment cstatus showed pending .
After 24 hours I sent an email to the security at like the joker asking about my payout as I knew they would not be operational Australia members after the 31st got no reply. I emailed again late on 31 January again querying whether or not they would honour the payout. I did read the terms and conditions again after the fact and then realised as players on different levels , they only like allow about $100 . Anyway I received an email Reply today being 1 February stating my withdrawal was void due to the fact that I had not made a deposit in the last five days prior to having the win. Strangely enough I read through the terms and conditions the free spins or free chips and general terms conditions of the casino and I don’t recall seeing a rule thanks for your payment has to be made five days prior to a withdrawal. Yet of course Now Australia is out of the jurisdiction I am Unable to log back into the site to revisit the terms and conditions. The admin staff My issue is now solved, but I don’t believe this is fair. They have never ever minded taking my money instead we are making deposits so technically they should refund all the deposits I made to their casino they also have listed is that site claiming that they have some of the highest percentages yet I never received one payout in the years as a regular player.
They are scammers and that’s not cool, as said previously, they should refund all my deposits, as if I have your cash in my account as well as spirit I would not have needed posit five days to having a win as I would’ve had more money in my account so that just doesn’t make sense.
Dragi šerib072,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Hteo sam da proverim uslove i odredbe kazina, ali njihova veb stranica trenutno ne radi za sve lokacije.
Možete li da navedete koje pravilo je tačno kazino naveo da ste prekršili?
Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear sherib072,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. I wanted to check the casino's terms and conditions but their webpage is currently down for all locations.
Could you please specify which rule exactly the casino specified you breached?
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
Dragi šerib072
Možete li molim vas da prosledite relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na moju e-poštu na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ? Čekaću vaš odgovor.
Dear sherib072
Could you please forward the relevant communication between you and the casino to my email at tomas@casino.guru? I'll await your reply.
Poslao sam vam e-poštu od locojoker-a u vezi sa razlogom zašto je moj dobitak poništen. Rekli su da nisam uplatio depozit u roku od 5 dana od traženja pobede, zanemaruju da pominju kako sam ranije napravio brojne depozite. Takođe znam da sam preporučio tu stranicu preko upućivanja prijatelja i kada su pokušali da prikupe 2000 dolara, verujem da je njihov nalog poništen i ponovo kod nekoga koga su uputili ko je pokušao da prikupi 3000 dolara. Ovi ljudi nisu koristili nikakve bonuse tako da ne bi moglo biti zabune u vezi sa legitimnim potraživanjem, tako da se čini da je ova stranica prava prevara.
I have now sent you the email from locojoker regarding their reason my winnings were voided . They said I had not made a deposit within 5 days of claiming a win, they neglect ti mention how I had made numerous deposits previously . And I also know that I recommended that site via refer a friend and when they tried to collect $2000, I believe their account was cancelled and again with someone they had referred who tried to collect $3000 . These people did not use any bonuses so there could be no confusion regarding legitimate claim so it appears that this site is quite a scam .
Kopija imejla poslata na
KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk prema zahtevu
Copy of email sent to
tomas@casino.guru as requested
U potpunosti razumem tvoju frustraciju, sherib072.
Hvala vam puno što ste dali potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
I fully understand your frustration, sherib072.
Thank you very much for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo sherib072,
Ja sam Michal i preuzeo sam vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam vaš slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da rasvetlimo ovu stvar.
Želeli bismo da pozovemo Loco Joker Casino da se pridruži razgovoru.
Dragi Loco Joker Casino,
Možete li da date više informacija u vezi sa poništenim dobicima igrača? Pošto je vaša veb stranica trenutno u izradi, nismo u mogućnosti da pristupimo uslovima i odredbama vašeg kazina. Možete li da navedete koja su pravila prekršena i pružite dovoljno dokaza da to potkrepite? Dokaze mi možete poslati na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk
Hello sherib072,
I'm Michal and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed your case and I will contact the casino to shed more light on this matter.
We would like to invite Loco Joker Casino to join the conversation.
Dear Loco Joker Casino,
Can you please provide more information regarding the player's voided winnings? As your webpage is currently under construction, we're not able to access your casino's terms and conditions, can you please specify which rules were breached and provide sufficient evidence to support this as well? The evidence can be sent to me at michal.k@casino.guru
Zdravo sherib072,
Žao mi je što nismo bili u mogućnosti da vam pomognemo sa ovim. Trenutno smo između tranzicije dobavljača bele etikete. Nažalost, naš dobavljač bele etikete se ugasio. Nažalost, s obzirom na vremenska ograničenja, nismo u mogućnosti da odmah premestimo brendove kod novog provajdera bele etikete, zbog čega ne možemo da predložimo više da vam sada pomognemo.
Duboko se izvinjavamo zbog neprijatnosti koje smo vam izazvali.
Hello sherib072,
I'm sorry we were not able to help you with this one. At the moment we are in between transition of white label providers. Unfortunately our white label provider has shut down. Sadly, given the time restrictions, we are unable to move the brands to a new white label provider right away, which is why we cannot suggest more to help you out right now.
We deeply apologies for the inconvenience caused to you.
Dragi Loco Joker Casino,
Razumemo da je ovaj proces težak, ali trebalo je da obavestite sve svoje igrače o nadolazećim promenama mnogo unapred i da ih obavestite da podnesu svoje zahteve za povlačenje unapred i da im u idealnom slučaju ne dozvolite da vrše dalje depozite na svoj kazino račun kada njihova zemlja više neće biti podržana/dozvoljena.
Ako sumnjate da je igrač prekršio bilo koje od vaših pravila, molimo vas da prosledite dokaze o tome na moju e-poštu KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk i navedite odgovarajuće uslove koji su prekršeni.
Dear Loco Joker Casino,
We understand that this process is difficult, but you should have informed all your players about the coming changes well in advance and notified them to submit their withdrawal requests in advance as well and ideally not allow them to do any further deposits to their casino account when their country won't be supported/allowed anymore.
If you have suspected the player of breaching any of your rules, please forward evidence about this to my email michal.k@casino.guru, and please point out the corresponding terms which were breached.
Hvala vam na kontinuiranoj pomoći. Imajte na umu da su mi poslali 25 besplatnih okretaja 30. ili 31. u mesecu (poslednji dan) pre zatvaranja u Australiju. Ne pokušavam da ih prevarim, ali bih voleo da ono što verujem da bude moje s pravom, jer sam se ceo život prevrnuo i puštao ljude da hodaju po meni, i mislim da je ovo bila poslednja čaša. Ja sam pomoćni radnik sa starima i invaliditetom, ja sam dobra osoba koja to radi jako teško kao i svi drugi, ne bih uzeo ništa na šta nisam imao pravo, ali kada sam osvojio ovaj novac, u redu kroz opkladu, bio sam tako uzbuđen jer bi mi ovo zaista moglo pomoći u mojoj finansijskoj situaciji. Ja sam zapravo pobedio
2800$, ali sam imao u pozadini da mi neće isplatiti po 2k zahteva za prijateljstvo da su obojica izgubili preko 2000$ svaki kada je locojoker blokirao njihove račune nakon što je poništio treći dobitak. Ovi ljudi čak nisu koristili nikakve bonuse na svojim računima da bi izbegli ovakve probleme. Tako da sam imao osećaj da će pronaći neki razlog da ne isplate, pa sam nastavio da igram na niže.
Zbogom rat, neka od korišćenih sredstava su možda bila i 10% depozita referala.
sheri
Thank you for your continued assistance. Please note that they sent me 25 free spins on the 30th or31st of the month ( last day) before closing to australia. I am not trying to scam them , but I would like what I believe ti be rightfully mine, as my entire life I have rolled over and let people walk all over me, and I think this was the last straw. I am a support worker with aged and disability, I am a good person doing it really hard like everyone else, I wouldn’t take anything that I was not entitled to but when I won this money, okayed through the wager I was so excited as this could really help me in my financial situation. I actually won
$ 2800 , but had in the back of my mind that they wouldn’t pay out as per the 2 x friend requests that both lost over $2000 each when locojoker blocked their accounts after voiding third winnings. These people did not even use any bonuses on their accounts ti avoid issues like this. So I had a feeling they would find some reason not to payout so I just kept playing the money down.
bye the war, some of the funds used may have been the 10% of the referrals deposits as well .
sheri
Dobar dan Michael,
samo činjenica koju sam se setio pre neki dan što verovatno nije od pomoći, ali 30. januara sam morao da overim dokument koji je, smešno, bio moj adresni dokument, koji je verifikovan tog dana. Tako da su verifikovali moj dokument znajući da sam iz Australije i da čekam povlačenje. To stvarno nema smisla. Da se sutradan zatvori sajt u Australiju.
pozdrav Šeri
Good afternoon Michael,
just a fact I remembered the other day which is probably no help, but on the 30th jan, I had to verify a document which funnily enough was my address document, which was verified on the day. So they verified my document knowing I was from australia and had a pending withdrawal. It doesn’t really make any sense. To shut down the site to Australia the next day.
regards Sheri
Dragi šerib072,
Žao nam je što čujemo za vašu situaciju. Međutim, sve operacije je u potpunosti obavio provajder bele etikete i pošto se ugasio, ne možemo ništa dalje da proveravamo o tome.
Primite naša iskrena izvinjenja.
Dear sherib072,
We are sorry to hear about your situation. However, all the operations were completely handled by the white label provider and since it has shut down, we cannot check anything further on this.
Kindly accept our sincere apologies.
Dragi Loco Joker Casino,
Razumemo da je ova situacija prilično neobična, ali trebalo je da imate pristup informacijama o nalogu igrača, dnevniku igre i drugim dokumentima, kao i svim informacijama o povlačenju. Ako je KIC proces uspešno obavljen i nisu prekršeni uslovi za isplatu, onda igrač treba da bude isplaćen bez obzira na trenutnu situaciju. Ne mislimo da je „stari" provajder bele etikete nestao tek tako u roku od sat vremena. Dokazi moraju biti sačuvani negde u sistemu. Ako je igrač optužen da je prekršio nešto, trebalo bi da pružite dokaz o tome.
Žao nam je, ali vaše trenutno razmišljanje nije u skladu sa onim što mislimo da bi bio pošten pristup. Šta se sa vaše strane može učiniti da se razjasni ova situacija?
Dear Loco Joker Casino,
We understand that this situation is quite unusual, but you should have been able to access the player's account information, game log, and other documents as well as all the information about the withdrawal. If the KYC process was done successfully and the conditions for payout were not breached then the player should be paid out regardless of the current situation. We don't think that the "old" white label provider has disappeared just like that within an hour. There has to be evidence saved somewhere in the system. If the player was accused of breaching something you should have to provide evidence of this.
We are sorry but the current reasoning from you is not in alliance with what we think would be a fair approach. What can be done from your side to help to clarify this situation?
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Dragi šerib072,
Kao što se može videti, više puta sam pokušavao da kontaktiram kazino i objasnio sam naš stav u ovoj situaciji, ali bez uspeha. Bojim se da se ne može mnogo postići bez saradnje sa njegove strane. Pošto kazino radi bez važeće licence i ne odnosi se ni na jednu ADR uslugu, nema ovlašćenja za igre na sreću kojoj se možete obratiti.
Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje rejtinga uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama moglo bi pomoći da se promeni pristup kazina. Ako kazino odluči da razumno reaguje nekim rešenjem, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte.
Mogu samo da vam preporučim da birate kazina prema njihovim recenzijama i ocenama u budućnosti kako biste izbegli ovakve situacije. Žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli biti od veće pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Michal
Dear sherib072,
As can be seen, I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly and explained our position in this situation but had no success. I'm afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. Since the casino operates without a valid license and doesn't refer to any ADR service, there is no gaming authority to turn to.
I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to reasonably react with some solution we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email.
I can only recommend you choose casinos by their reviews and ratings in the future to avoid situations like this. I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion.
Best regards,
Michal
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