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MiCasino - Problem sa odloženim povlačenjem i verifikacijom naloga.
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14/01/2024
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The player from Mexico, after placing a withdrawal request of $2,000, was unable to access her casino account. Despite providing the requested verification documents, she hadn't received a response from the casino in over six business days. We attempted to contact the casino multiple times without success. Due to the casino's lack of cooperation, we marked the complaint as 'unresolved', which could have negatively affected its rating. We recommended the player to contact the Gaming Curaçao Authority for further assistance as they had more options and tools to help players.
Igračica iz Meksika, nakon što je postavila zahtev za povlačenje od 2.000 dolara, nije mogla da pristupi svom kazino nalogu. Uprkos tome što je dostavila tražene dokumente za verifikaciju, nije dobila odgovor iz kazina više od šest radnih dana. Pokušali smo da kontaktiramo kazino više puta bez uspeha. Zbog nesaradnje kazina, žalbu smo označili kao „nerešenu“, što je moglo negativno da utiče na njen rejting. Preporučili smo igraču da kontaktira Gaming Curacao Authoriti za dalju pomoć jer su imali više opcija i alata za pomoć igračima.
Nedavno sam otvorio nalog (jedan) na svom mobilnom telefonu, koristeći svoje lične podatke. Zatražili su moju identifikaciju (INE) za verifikaciju, koju sam poslao i oni su naknadno odobrili. Uplatio sam svoj početni depozit i uspeo sam da povećam svoj račun na 2400 USD. Zatim sam zatražio povlačenje 2000 dolara. Međutim, tri dana kasnije, kada sam pokušao da se prijavim na svoj nalog, on je bio neaktivan. Kontaktirao sam njihov tim za podršku i rekli su da sumnjaju da to nisam ja jer im je potrebno više dokumenata. Tražili su sledeće: identifikaciju (INE) - obe strane, bankovnu karticu - obe strane, i selfi sa dokumentima u ruci (oboje). Nastavio sam da ih šaljem 2. januara, ali do danas, 11. januara, još uvek nisu odgovorili. Kad god stupim u kontakt sa njima putem ćaskanja i zatražim direktan broj telefona za bolju komunikaciju, oni odbijaju. Sve što mi kažu u ćaskanju je ista stvar svakodnevno: „odeljenje za verifikaciju radi na vašem slučaju... dobićete odgovor u roku od 24-72 sata." Kao što sam pomenuo, već je prošlo najmanje šest radnih dana. Očigledno je da kazino ne želi da plati ono što je izgubio, jer nemaju nikakvog čvrstog razloga da diskredituju moju uplatu. Hvala vam, Casino Guru, na pažnji prema ovoj stvari.
I recently opened an account (a single one) on my mobile phone, using my personal details. They requested my identification (INE) for verification, which I sent and they subsequently approved. I made my initial deposit and was able to increase my account to $2400. I then requested a withdrawal of $2000. However, three days later when I tried to log into my account, it was inactive. I contacted their support team and they mentioned they had suspicions it wasn't me because they required more documents. They asked for the following: identification (INE) - both sides, bank card - both sides, and a selfie with the documents in my hand (both of them). I proceeded to send these on January 2, but as of today, January 11, they still have not responded. Whenever I engage with them via chat and request a direct phone number for better communication, they decline. All they tell me in the chat is the same thing everyday: "the verification department is working on your case... you will receive a response within 24-72 hours." As I've mentioned, it's already been at least six business days. It's evident that the casino doesn't want to pay what they've lost, because they don't have any solid reasoning to discredit my payment. Thank you, Casino Guru, for your attention to this matter.
hace poco abri mi cuenta ehice mi cuenta (unica) desde mi celular, con mis datos . me pidieron mi INE para verificarla, se las mande y me la aprobaron. hice mi primer deposito y subi mi cuenta hasta $2400 , solicite un retiro de $2000 y al pasar 3 dias intente entrar a mi cuenta y estaba inactiva, me comunique con soporte y me dijeron que tenian sospechas que no era yo y me pidieron mas documentos, los siguientes: INE ambos lados, tarjeta bancaria ambos lados, foto tipo selfi con los docuemntos en la mano (ambos documentos), procedi a mandarselos el dia 2 de enero y hoy 11 de enero aun es fecha que no me contestan, me comunico por el chat y pido me den el numero de teleono para hablar en directo y me lo niegan, y en el chat solo me dicen lo mismo todos los dias "el departamento de verificacion trabaja en su caso ...tendra respuesta de 24-72 horas" ... como le comento ya pasaron 6 dias ahbiles por lo menos, es evidente que el casino no quiere pagar lo que perdio, por que no tienen algun argumento valido para desacreditar mi pago, les agradezco casino guru, saludos.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem.
Kontaktiraćemo kazino i zatražiti dokaze, ali, pre nego što to učinimo, da li biste mogli da nam kažete da li, po vašem najboljem saznanju, postoji mogućnost da je neko drugi od članova vaše porodice ili komšija otvorio nalog od istog IP adresa ili uređaj kao vaš ili koristite vašu adresu e-pošte?
Da li su vaši dobici akumulirani sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Imajte na umu da je KIC veoma važan i suštinski proces, tokom kojeg kazino osigurava da se novac pošalje pravom vlasniku. Kako nemaju luksuz da fizički vide sve igrače i provere njihove identifikacione i dokumente, to je jedini način na koji kockarske ustanove mogu da završe procedure verifikacije. Nijedan od ozbiljnih i licenciranih kazina ne shvata KIC olako i može potrajati nekoliko radnih dana da se ovaj temeljni proces završi.
Da li ste obavešteni šta konkretno predstavlja problem u verifikaciji vašeg naloga?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear fabiolalopez,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem.
We will contact the casino and ask for supporting evidence, but, before we do so, could you please advise if, to the best of your knowledge, there’s a possibility that someone else from your family members or neighbors has opened an account from the same IP address or device as yours or using your email address?
Were your winnings accumulated with or without an active bonus?
Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures. None of the serious and licensed casinos take KYC lightly and it might take a few working days to complete this thorough process.
Have you been informed what specifically seems to be a problem in verifying your account?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Ne, ja sam napravio svoj nalog sa svog mobilnog telefona sa svojim podacima, i niko drugi ne pravi naloge sa mojim mobilnim telefonom. Razumem da koriste podatke i dokumente i poslao sam ih kako su tražili, kao što vidite na snimcima ekrana koje sam podelio sa vama.
No, I made my account from my cell phone with my data, and no one else makes accounts with my cell phone. I understand that they use data and documents, and I sent them as they asked me for, as you can see with the screenshots that I shared with you.
No, mi cuenta la hice desde mi celular con mis datos, y nadie más hace cuentas con mi celular. Comprendo que ocupen datos y documentos, y los mande en cuento me los pidieron como pueden darse cuenta con las capturas que les compartí .
Pre nego što se obratimo kazinu za potkrepljujuće dokaze, raspitaćemo se da li postoji šansa da je neko iz vaše porodice ili suseda otvorio nalog koristeći istu IP adresu ili vašu adresu e-pošte .
Pored toga, možete li pojasniti da li su vaši dobici akumulirani sa ili bez korišćenja aktivnog bonusa?
Hvala vam.
Hi fabiolalopez,
Before reaching out to the casino for supporting evidence, we will inquire if there's a chance that someone from your family or neighbors has opened an account using the same IP address, or your email address.
Additionally, could you clarify whether your winnings were accumulated with or without the utilization of an active bonus?
Već sam im rekao ne, da sam napravio svoj nalog sa svog mobilnog telefona sa svojim podacima iz telefonske kompanije, tako da ne postoji mogućnost da je neko drugi napravio nalog sa mojim mobilnim telefonom. Bonus je ispunio uslove i ja sam ga pustio, deponovao i nastavio da akumuliram profit.
I already told them no, that I made my account from my cell phone with my information from the phone company, therefore there is no possibility that someone else has made an account with my cell phone. The bonus met the requirements and I released it, deposited it and continued accumulating profits.
ya les dije que no, que mi cuenta la hice desde mi celular con mis datos de la compañia de telefono, por lo tanto no existe la posibilidad de que alguien mas aya echo cuenta con mi celular. el bono cumpli con los requisitos y lo libere, deposite y segui acumulando ganancias.
Hvala vam puno, fabiolalopez, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Petru ( peter.c@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, fabiolalopez, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hvala fabiolalopez što ste nam pružili sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih zamolio MiCasino za njihovu pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo šta je problem sa verifikacijom i šta možemo da uradimo da pomognemo igraču da dobije svoje dobitke.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you fabiolalopez for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask MiCasino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know what is the issue with the verification and what can we do to help the player receive their winnings.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Neće da se javljaju, odbijaju da plate ono što su zaradili, već sam im poslao poštom sve dovoljne dokaze kao što su lične karte, bankovne kartice i izvodi sa računa, ali mi ne odgovaraju. Komuniciram putem ćaskanja i jedino što mi kažu je da rade na procesu provere informacija, što je smešno da za više od mesec dana nisu uspeli da urade to je kazino koji loše deluje vere i posvećen je prevari, trebalo bi da ga blokirate od kazino gurua, pošto to govori loše o vama preporukom kazina koji je posvećen prevari ljudi.
They are not going to respond, they are refusing to pay what they earned, I already sent them by mail all the sufficient evidence such as identification, bank cards and account statements, but they do not respond to me. I communicate by chat and the only thing they tell me is that they are working on the process of verifying the information, which is ridiculous that in more than 1 month they have not been able to do it, it is a casino that acts in bad faith and is dedicated to scamming , you should block him from casino guru, since that speaks badly of you by recommending a casino that is dedicated to scamming people.
No van a responder, estan negados a pagar lo que se les gano, ya les mande por correo todas las pruebas suficientes como lo son identificaciones, tarjetas bancarias y esatdos de cuenta, pero no me responden. me comunico por chat y lo unico que me dicen es que trabajan en el proceso de verificar la informacion, lo cual es ridiculo que en mas de 1 mes no lo hayan podido hacer, es un casino que actua de mala fe y se dedica a estafar , deberian bloquearlo de casino guru, ya que eso habla mal de ustedes al estar recomendando un casino que se dedica a estafar a la gente.
Više puta sam pokušavao da kontaktiram kazino, ali nisam imao uspeha. Bojim se da se ne može mnogo postići bez saradnje sa njegove strane. Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje rejtinga uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama može pomoći da se promeni pristup kazina. Ako kazino odluči da reaguje, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte. U međuvremenu, preporučujem vam da kontaktirate Gaming Curacao Authoriti ( complaints@gaming-curacao.com ) i podneti im žalbu. Uprava za igre na sreću ima više opcija i alata za pomoć igračima. Obavestite me da li vam treba pomoć oko podnošenja žalbe ili kako su oni odgovorili ako to možete učiniti sami ( peter.c@casino.guru ). Žao mi je što ovom prilikom nisam mogao biti od veće pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but had no success. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Gaming Curaçao Authority (complaints@gaming-curacao.com) and submit a complaint to them. The Gaming Authority has more options and tools to help players. Please let me know if you need help with submitting the complaint or how they responded if you can do it on your own (peter.c@casino.guru). I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.
Best regards,
Peter
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