Igrač sa Gernsija se bori da povuče sredstva od 110,067 GBP, zbog problema sa metodama povlačenja kazina i ograničenjima odobrenja.
Nisam bio u mogućnosti da podignem svoja sredstva od 26. jula, a moja povlačenja na moju debitnu karticu su bila na čekanju pre nego što su bila neodobrena jer su očigledno iznad ograničenja odobrenja. Rečeno mi je da treba da koristim opciju bankovnog transfera, ali sam u brojnim prilikama istakao da to nije dostupna opcija.
Kada pokušam da razgovaram sa timom za plaćanja, obavešten sam da to nije moguće i da im je ostavljena 'podsetnica' da pregledaju moja povlačenja. Jednom prilikom mi je rečeno da će to biti razmotreno za nekoliko minuta, ali je povlačenje odbijeno 24 sata kasnije.
Takođe sam zatražio ručno povlačenje celokupnog stanja na mom računu i dostavio im i podatke o svom SVIFT i lokalnom računu; Rečeno mi je da će se tim za plaćanja javiti, ali prošlo je više od 48 sati i od tada nisam čuo ni za šta.
Danas su još jednom odbili moje povlačenje 5.000 GBP uprkos potpuno verifikovanom računu.
- Već sam istakao da opcija bankovnog transfera nije dostupna
- Već sam naglasio da nijedna druga opcija povlačenja nije dostupna
- Takođe sam zatražio ručni transfer i dao sam detalje svog naloga u skladu sa sugestijom iz prethodnih odbijenih povlačenja i politike operatera kazina.
- Takođe sam istakao da bi možda trebalo povećati limit odobrenja na strani MrVegasa
Od danas imam stanje od 110.067 GBP koje ne mogu da podignem, a tim za plaćanja tek treba da obezbedi ažuriranje napretka. Samo da me obavestite da isprobam opciju bankovnog transfera (za koju sam naglasio da ne postoji) nakon odbijanja povlačenja.
I have not been able to withdraw my funds since 26th July and my withdrawals to my debit card have been stuck on pending before being disapproved as it's apparently above the approval limit. I have been advised that I should use the bank transfer option but on numerous occasions I've highlighted that it's not an available option.
When I try to speak to the payments team, I've been advised that it's not possible and that a 'reminder note' has been left with them to review my withdrawals. On a one occasion, I was told it'll be looked at in a matter of minutes but the withdrawal was denied 24 hours later.
I have also requested a manual withdrawal of my entire account balance and provided them with both my SWIFT and Local account details; I was advised that the payments team will reach out, but it's been more than 48 hours I have not heard of anything since.
Today, they have once again denied my withdrawal of 5,000 GBP despite a fully verified account.
- I have already highlighted that the bank transfer option is not available
- I have already highlighted that no other withdrawal option is available
- I have also requested a manual transfer out and provided my account details as per suggestion from previous denied withdrawals and the casino operators policy.
- I have also highlighted that perhaps the approval limit needs to be increased on MrVegas side
As of today, I have a balance of 110,067 GBP that I cannot withdraw and the payments team is yet to provide progress update. Only to inform me to try the bank transfer option (which I highlighted that it doesn't exist) after rejecting a withdrawal.
Dragi locoleaf,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem sa povlačenjem.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Da li vam je rečeno zašto ne možete da povučete svoje dobitke koristeći metode koje su ranije bile uspešne? Da li je u pitanju interni problem sa sistemom kazina ili je povezan samo sa vašim nalogom?
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste pokrenuli svoja podizanja koristeći 'Visa' metodu u blagajni?
Koje druge opcije postoje da pokrenete isplatu u blagajni kazina?
Možete li mi poslati najnovije odgovore koje ste dobili od kazina u vezi sa njihovom pomoći u vezi sa vašim problemom? Moj imejl je _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk
Radujemo se Vašem odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear locoleaf,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your withdrawal problem.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation.
Have you been advised why you can’t withdraw your winnings using the methods that were previously successful? Is it an internal casino system issue, or it’s related to your account only?
Do I understand correctly you initiated your withdrawals using 'Visa' method in the cashier?
What other options are there for you to initiate withdrawal in the cashier of the casino?
Could you please send me the most recent replies you received from the casino regarding their assistance with your issue? My email is tomas@casino.guru
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Tomas
Zdravo Tomas,
Molimo pronađite odgovore u redu:
Da li vam je rečeno zašto ne možete da povučete svoje dobitke koristeći metode koje su ranije bile uspešne? Da li je to interni problem sa sistemom kazina ili se odnosi samo na vaš nalog?
Nije dato nikakvo valjano obrazloženje, samo da je bilo iznad 'granice odobrenja', što je neverovatno bizarno, pošto su nedavno odobrili povlačenje 300 funti i 6.000 GBP. Bilo je slučajeva kada su mi rekli da postoji zaostatak u radu pa može potrajati duže nego što se očekivalo. Naravno, to je samo značilo da su moja povlačenja u stanju čekanja 48 sati i više pre nego što budu neodobrena.
Pokušao sam da pritisnem dalje, ali tim za podršku je uvek podrazumevao da ga gledaju i zamoli me za strpljenje. Kada sam pitao da li mogu da razgovaram sa timom za plaćanja, oni su mi rekli da to nije moguće jer se ne suočavaju sa klijentima.
Ne mislim da je u pitanju sistemski problem s obzirom na to da se istorijski povlačenja obrađuju u redu, iako odloženo na moj bankovni račun. Mislim da samo treba da 'povećaju' svoje ograničenje odobrenja za moj nalog ILI da ponude opciju bankovnog transfera koju su preporučili i koja je u njihovom TandC-u. (plaćanja ovde https://vvv.mrvegas.com/terms-and-conditions/mga-games-specific/ )
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste pokrenuli svoja podizanja koristeći 'Visa' metodu u blagajni?
Tačno, jer je ovo jedina opcija koja je održiva. Opcija bankovnog transfera koju je predložio tim za plaćanja ne postoji, a sve druge kao što su krill, Apple Pai, itd. nisu moguće jer nisu „opcija prvi put prvi"
Koje druge opcije postoje da pokrenete isplatu u blagajni kazina?
Druge opcije nisu dostupne osim VISA-e
Hi Tomas,
Please find answers in line:
Have you been advised why you can’t withdraw your winnings using the methods that were previously successful? Is it an internal casino system issue, or it’s related to your account only?
No valid reasoning has been provided, only that it was above the 'approval limit' which is incredibly bizarre, as they approved a withdrawal of 300ish pounds and 6,000 GBP in recent times. There have been some occasions where I've been told that there's a backlog of work so it may take longer than expected. Of course, this only meant that my withdrawals are in a pending state for 48 hours+ before it being disapproved.
I tried pressing further but the Support Team has always defaulted to that it's being looked at and ask me for my patience. When I ask if I could speak to Payments team, they've advised it's not possible as they are not customer facing.
I dont think it's a system issue given that historically withdrawals are processed fine albeit delayed to my bank account. I think they just need to 'increase' their approval limit for my account OR offer the bank transfer option that they've recommended and of which is in their TandC. (payments here https://www.mrvegas.com/terms-and-conditions/mga-games-specific/ )
Do I understand correctly you initiated your withdrawals using 'Visa' method in the cashier?
Correct, as this is the only option that is viable. The bank transfer option suggested by the Payments team does not exist and all other ones such as krill, Apple Pay,etc are not possible as they are not the 'First in First out Option'
What other options are there for you to initiate withdrawal in the cashier of the casino?
No other options are available other than VISA
Hvala na porukama.
Drago mi je da čujem da će kazino pristati da obradi vaše povlačenje ručnom obradom transfera. Obaveštavajte me o daljem razvoju događaja.
Thanks for your messages.
I am glad to hear the casino will agree to process your withdrawal by manually processing the transfer. Please keep me informed about any further development.
Zdravo Tomas,
Nisu se, nažalost, složili. Očigledno, oni sada sprečavaju dalja povlačenja dok ne dobiju pojašnjenje od provajdera plaćanja. Očigledno, postoji neka vrsta ograničenja na mojoj Revolut debitnoj kartici koja uzrokuje neuspeh bankovnog transfera HSBC-u - što nema smisla.
Hi Tomas,
They did not agree unfortunately. Apparently, they are now preventing further withdrawals until they get clarification from the payment provider. Apparently, there is some sort of limit on my Revolut debit card which is causing the bank transfer to HSBC to fail - which doesn't make sense.
Hvala na ažuriranjima. Žao mi je zbog razočaravajućeg napretka u vezi sa vašim povlačenjem.
Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Pavelu ( _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thanks for the updates. I am sorry for the disappointing progress regarding your withdrawal.
I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Pavel (pavel.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo, locoleaf!
Hvala na strpljenju. Sada ću se pobrinuti za vašu žalbu i nadam se da ćemo zajedno rešiti problem.
Želeo bih da pozovem kazino da im pruži priliku da objasne svoju stranu situacije.
Hvala vam!
Hello, locoleaf!
Thank you for your patience. Now I will be taking care of your complaint and I hope that together we will resolve the problem.
I would like to invite the casino to give them a chance to explain their side of the situation.
Thank you!
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Zdravo,
Žao nam je što čujemo da se vaš problem povlači.
Istražujemo slučaj i istražujemo uzrok problema i tražimo da stvar rešimo što je pre moguće.
Pratićemo ažuriranje čim ih bude.
Zbog velikog iznosa uključenih sredstava, želeli bismo da ponudimo locoleafu blok za reprodukciju njegovog naloga, kako bismo sprečili klađenje dok se čeka na povlačenje, ovo bi zaštitilo sredstva dok se povlačenje ne može uspešno obrađivati.
Srdačan pozdrav.
Hi,
We are sorry to hear about your issue withdrawing.
We are investigating the case and looking into the cause of the issue, and are looking to solve the matter as soon as possible.
We will follow-up with an update as soon as there is any.
Due to the large amount of funds involved we would like to offer locoleaf a play-block of his account, so to prevent wagering while awaiting for the withdrawals, this would safeguard the funds until the withdrawal can be processed successfully.
Kind Regards.
Zdravo locoleaf,
Ažurirali smo vaš način plaćanja „Prvi ušao prvi put" za isplate na drugu karticu koju ste prethodno uspešno koristili.
Možete li da pokušate da se povučete sada da vidite da li radi? Takođe možete pokušati povlačenje bankovnog transfera ako želite.
Obavestite nas ako budete uspeli, a mi ćemo u međuvremenu nastaviti istragu o ovom pitanju.
Srdačan pozdrav.
Hi locoleaf,
We have updated your First In First Out payment method for withdrawals to another card you had previously used with success.
Could you attempt to withdraw now to see if it works? You could also attempt a bank transfer withdrawal if you wish.
Let us know if you have any success, meanwhile we will continue our investigation into the issue.
Kind Regards.
Kao što je ranije navedeno, opcija bankovnog transfera nije dostupna.
Zatražio sam povlačenje nakon vaše promene FIFO.
možete li molim vas da pregledate i odobrite
As previously stated the bank transfer option is not available.
I have requested the withdrawals following your FIFO change.
can you please review and approve
locoleaf, zamolio bih vas da nastavite sa komunikacijom u vezi sa žalbom na moj e-mail: _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk dok ja rešavam vašu žalbu, a ne moj kolega Tomas. Hvala vam!
locoleaf, I would like to ask you to proceed with a communication regarding the complaint to my e-mail: pavel.k@casino.guru as I resolve your complaint, not my colleague Tomas. Thank you!
Nema problema.
Kako stvari stoje, neka od povlačenja su odobrena. Međutim, ostaje 38 hiljada i danas sam primio e-poštu.
Opet, rečeno mi je da je ovo problem sa mojom bankom – što je besmislica kao što smo već utvrdili jer nema ograničenja za dolazne transfere.
Veoma je osećaj kao da se vrtimo u krug.
"
Verujem da ste danas dobro.
Obaveštenje koje dobijamo je sledeće: 61 - Prekoračuje ograničenje iznosa odobrenja.
nažalost, ovo je greška koja bi trebalo da dolazi iz vaše banke, kao takva, bilo bi najbolje da ih kontaktirate da vidite da li se ovo može popraviti za vas.
Ako imate dodatnih pitanja, slobodno nas kontaktirajte.
Srdačan pozdrav,
"
No problem at all.
As things stand, some of the withdrawals have been approved. However 38k remains and I received the email email today.
Again, I am being told this is a problem with my bank - which is nonsense as we already established as there's no limit to incoming transfers.
It very much feels like we are going around in circles.
"
I trust you are well today.
The notification that we are receiving is the following: 61 - Exceeds approval amount limit.
unfortunately, this is an error that should be coming from your bank, as such it would be best that you contact them to see if this can be amended for you.
If you have any further question, kindly do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards,
"
Da, definitivno ide u krug.
Molimo pogledajte najnoviji odgovor u nastavku.
Ranije sam kontaktirao i HSBC i Revolut koji su potvrdili da ne postoji takva stvar kao što su dolazna ograničenja za bankovne račune.
Jasno mi je da je poruka o grešci interna.
Yes, definitely going around in circles.
Please see latest response below.
I've previously reached out to both HSBC and Revolut who confirmed that there is no such thing as incoming limits to bank accounts..
Clear to me that the error msg is internal.
Zdravo,
Kao što je savetovano na snimku ekrana, najbolje rešenje u ovom trenutku je da kontaktirate VISA direktno da vidite u čemu je problem. Možemo videti samo ono što nam pošalju kao odgovor na pokušaj transakcije.
Naravno, mi smo i sa naše strane u kontaktu sa provajderom plaćanja, pokušavajući da nađemo rešenje za problem. Ali u ovom trenutku sve ukazuje na ograničenje transakcije sa načinom plaćanja.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tim Mr Vegas
Hi there,
As advised by in the screenshot, the best solution at the moment is to contact VISA directly to see what is the issue. We can only see what they send back to us as a response to the transaction attempt.
Of course, we are in contact with the payment provider from our side, also, trying to find a solution to the issue. But at this moment, everything points to a transaction limit with the payment method.
Kind regards,
Team Mr Vegas
Danas je 20 hiljada povlačenja obrađeno uprkos tome što nisam kontaktirao svoju banku.
Kao što sam ranije rekao i iskusio, to je zato što postoji neka vrsta internog ograničenja odobrenja od MrVegasa.
Ovo je stvarno loše..ako tim za podršku to ne prepozna.
Today, 20k of the withdrawals were processed despite me not contacting my bank.
So as I stated and experienced before, this was because there's some sort of internal approval limit from MrVegas.
This is really bad..if the support team doesn't even recognise that.
I dalje nema ažuriranja, a što je još gore, sada mi nije dato objašnjenje zašto se ovo sada ne odobrava.
Kao što se može videti na tragu e-pošte, tražio sam 3 puta podršku da razjasnim zašto su one odbijene. Svaki put, svima mi je rečeno da su sredstva vraćena i da treba da probam drugačiji metod.
U suštini, opet smo na početku kruga..
Still no update and worse still, I am not given an explanation now as to why these are disapproved now.
As can be seen on the email trail, I have asked 3 times for support to clarify why these are rejected. Each and every time, all ive been told that the funds have been returned and that I should try a different method.
Basically, we are at the beginning of the circle again..
Nešto nije u redu, zar ne?
Prošli smo mesec dana u slučaju i najnoviji odgovor MrVegasa je sledeći:
"Pozdrav,
Da li bi bilo moguće potvrditi na koja se povlačenja radi?
Hvala.
Srdačan pozdrav.
Tim Mr Vegas."
Something is very off isn't it?
We are a month into the case and the latest response from MrVegas is this..:
"Hello there,
Would it be possible to confirm which withdrawals this is refers to?
Thanks.
Kind regards.
Team Mr Vegas."
locoleaf, s obzirom na to da ste, sa većom verovatnoćom, zahtevali višestruka povlačenja, logično je da se kazino pita koja od njih je otkazana.
Tim g. Vegas, molim vas, dajte nam objašnjenje.
locoleaf, given that, with higher probability, you have requested multiple withdrawals, it is only logical for the casino to ask about which of them have been cancelled.
Team Mr Vegas, please, provide us with the explanation.
Zdravo Pavel,
Bilo je nekoliko odvojenih pokušaja povlačenja, tako da bi bilo prirodno da naša korisnička podrška pita koje je povlačenje problem. Imajte na umu da nemaju sve informacije dostupne odmah, tako da možda nisu svesni šireg problema sa povlačenjem.
Naše odeljenje za plaćanja je juče obavestilo kupca da se isplate zaglavljuju zbog ograničenja povlačenja na strani izdavaoca načina plaćanja. Pošto povlačenja ne mogu da prođu, otkazana su. Savetovali smo klijenta da direktno kontaktira izdavaoca načina plaćanja kako bi dobio više informacija o ograničenjima iznosa transakcije.
Juče smo takođe preporučili da koristite drugi način plaćanja za isplate, ali ne vidim nikakav pokušaj sa strane korisnika da isproba drugi način plaćanja (postoji još jedan pokušaj sa načinom plaćanja koji ranije nije funkcionisao).
U ovom trenutku, ne možemo mnogo više da uradimo osim ako kupac ne sledi data uputstva.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tim Mr Vegas
Hi Pavel,
There have been several separate withdrawal attempts, so, it would be natural for our customer support to ask which withdrawal is the issue. Note that they do not have all the information available right away, so, they may not be aware of wider issue with the withdrawals.
Our payments department has informed the customer yesterday that the withdrawals gets stuck due to withdrawal limits on the payment method's issuer's side. As the withdrawals can't go through, they were cancelled. We have advised the customer to contact directly the payment method issuer to get more information about the transaction amount limitations.
Yesterday, we also recommended to use another payment method for the withdrawals but I don't see any attempt from customer's side to try the another payment method (there's another try with the payment method that didn't work before).
At this point, there's not much more we can do unless the customer follows the instructions given.
Kind regards,
Team Mr Vegas
Tim g-dine Vegas, da li postoji mogućnost da igrač uplati minimalni verifikacioni depozit bez potrebe za opkladom da bi drugi način povlačenja bio dostupan?
Team Mr Vegas, is there a possibility for the player to make a minimum verification deposit without wagering requirement to make another withdrawal method available?
Zdravo Pavel,
Klijent treba da kontaktira našu korisničku podršku i zatraži promenu promene metode „Prvi uđe prvi izađe". To se može uraditi u nekim slučajevima, pod pretpostavkom da je sve u redu sa nalogom.
Ne možemo to da uradimo preko ove platforme jer bi to uključivalo osetljive informacije koje ne možemo da delimo ovde.
Ali najvažnije je da je kupac u direktnom kontaktu sa nama i da odgovara na naše poruke. Neophodno je da se problem reši.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tim Mr Vegas
Hi Pavel,
The customer needs to contact our customer support and ask the change of the First In First Out method change. It can be done in some cases, assuming everything is ok with the account.
We cannot do it via this platform as it would involve sensitive information that we cannot share here.
But the most important thing here at the moment is that the customer is in contact with us directly and replies to our messages. It's essential for getting the issue solved.
Kind regards,
Team Mr Vegas
Hvala vam, Tim Mr Vegas!
Lokoleaf, zahvaljujem vam na strpljenju i potpuno razumem da je ovo dug i naporan proces. Molimo vas da se povežite sa korisničkom podrškom kazina da biste još jednom promenili FIFO.
Thank you, Team Mr Vegas!
Locoleaf, I thank you for your patience and fully understand that this is a long and tiring process. Please, connect with the casino customer support to make a FIFO change once more.
Dear locoleaf,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Nažalost, igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja. Shodno tome, nismo u mogućnosti da dalje istražujemo i nemamo drugog izbora nego da odbijemo ovu žalbu.
Igrač može ponovo da otvori ovu žalbu u bilo kom trenutku.
Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.
The player can reopen this complaint at any time.
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