Samoisključivanje igrača nije uspelo, jer je mogao da izgubi novac na svom drugom računu. Slučaj je uspešno rešen, a igrač i kazino su se dogovorili.
The player's self exclusion failed, as he was able to lose money on his second account. The case was successfully resolved, and the player and the casino found an agreement.
Samoisključivanje igrača nije uspelo, jer je mogao da izgubi novac na svom drugom računu. Slučaj je uspešno rešen, a igrač i kazino su se dogovorili.
Napravio sam račun na kocki, ali nakon što sam izgubio dosta novca, nastavio sam sa isključenjem ovog računa na period od 5 godina jer sam se bojao da imam problem s kockanjem.
Nekoliko dana kasnije, napravio sam drugi nalog na mystake. Nisam znao da je to protivno njihovim uslovima. Nisam mogao provjeriti svoje podatke kako bih izvršio povlačenje sa ovog drugog računa pa sam poslao e-poštu timu za podršku tražeći pomoć. Nisu me obavijestili da duplikati naloga nisu dozvoljeni iako sam objasnio da je ovo moj drugi nalog. Umjesto toga, odmah su mi poslali e-poštu rekavši da su moji podaci sada potvrđeni i da mogu povući.
Nakon što sam izgubio još više novca, zatražio sam da se isključi ovaj drugi račun.
Od tada sam čitao njihove uslove i odredbe i shvatio sam da ovaj drugi nalog nikada nije trebao biti dozvoljen, posebno zbog moje sigurnosti jer sam već poduzeo korake da isključim svoj izvorni račun.
U njihovim uslovima i odredbama stoji da će pri otvaranju dva ili više računa kompanija ukinuti duplikate računa i vratiti depozite minus 20% naknade za transakciju. Ovo je trebalo učiniti odmah nakon mog prvog depozita, međutim nije tako i sada sam deponovao i izgubio još više novca.
Moje pitanje je: da li mogu dobiti bilo koji od mojih depozita vraćen jer je mystake znao da je ovo dupli račun jer sam ih obavijestio e-poštom kada je kreiran, ali su mi i dalje dozvoljavali da uplaćujem depozite i kockam se?
I made an account at mystake but, after losing quite a lot of money, proceeded to have this account excluded for a period of 5 years as I feared I was developing a gambling problem.
A few days later, I created a second account on mystake. I was unaware that this went against their terms and conditions. I was unable to verify my details to make a withdrawal from this second account so I emailed the support team asking for help. They did not inform me that duplicate accounts were not permitted even though I explained this was my second account. Rather they promptly emailed back saying my details had now been confirmed and I could make a withdrawal.
After loosing even more money, I requested to have this second account excluded.
Since then, I have been reading their terms and conditions and have realised that this second account should never have been permitted, especially for my own safety as I had already taken the steps to exclude my original account.
In their terms and conditions it says that on the creation of two or more accounts, the company will terminate the duplicate accounts and refund deposits minus a 20% transaction fee. This should have been done immediately after my first deposit however it was not and I have now deposited and lost even more money.
My question is: am I able to get any of my deposits refunded as mystake knew this was a duplicate account as I had informed them by email when it was created yet they still allowed me to make deposits and gamble?
Zdravo Rio1998,
Hvala vam puno što ste podnijeli žalbu i zaista mi je žao što čujem za vaš problem sa MyStake Casino. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim još nekoliko pitanja prije nego krenemo naprijed.
Možete li, molim vas, obavijestiti da li je i vaš prvi račun bio samoisključen? Koliko brzo ste nakon zatvaranja prvog naloga otvorili drugi? Koliko ste ukupno uplatili na svoj drugi račun?
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
pozdrav,
Nick
Hello Rio1998,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with MyStake Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise if your first account was self excluded too? How fast after closing your first account did you open the second one? How much did you deposit on your second account in total?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
Nick
zdravo,
hvala vam što ste tako brzo odgovorili.
Da, moj prvi nalog je bio samoisključen.
Drugi račun sam otvorio nekoliko dana do nedelju dana kasnije, ne mogu se tačno sjetiti. Ali nije bilo dugo.
Procjenjujem da sam položio između £8000-£10000 na drugi račun.
Hi there,
thank you for responding so quickly.
Yes, my first account was self-excluded.
I opened the second account a few days up to a week later, I can’t remember exactly. But it was not a long time.
I estimate I deposited between £8000-£10000 on the second account.
Koje e-poruke biste željeli? Mogu li poslati prvu komunikaciju koju sam imao kada sam objasnio da imam problema s verifikacijom drugog računa, a zatim i sa svime poslije?
Which emails would you like? I can send the first communication I had when I explained I was having problems verifying my second account and then everything afterwards as well?
Dear Rio1998,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Dear Rio1998,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Zdravo,
Verujem da su svi moji lični podaci bili potpuno isti na oba naloga osim adrese e-pošte koju sam koristio.
Ime, datum rođenja i ID (vozačka dozvola) koje sam koristio za verifikaciju naloga su bili isti.
Hi there,
I believe all my personal details were exactly the same on both accounts except the email address I used.
Name, date of birth, and ID (Drivers license) I used for account verification were the same.
Zdravo Rio1998 i hvala na svim informacijama. Sada ću proslediti vašu žalbu kolegi Jozefu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam od sada pomagati.
Želim vam puno sreće u rešavanju.
Pozdravi,
Nick
Hello Rio1998 and thank you for all the information. I will now forward your complaint to my colleague Jozef (jozef.k@casino.guru) who will be assisting you from now on.
Wish you best luck resolving it.
Regards,
Nick
Zdravo Rio1998,
Apsolutno cenim što ste podelili svoja iskustva sa Casino Guru timom. Sada ćemo pokušati da stupimo u kontakt sa kazinom.
Hi Rio1998,
I absolutely appreciate that you shared your experiences with the Casino Guru team. We will now try to get in touch with the casino.
Zdravo Jozef i Rio 1998,
Zavisnost od kockanja uvek shvatamo ozbiljno. Kada igrač zatraži samoisključivanje, to se radi što je pre moguće. Takođe, zabranjeno je imati duple naloge. Naš relevantni tim ih zatvara kada se takve aktivnosti otkriju.
Detaljno ćemo istražiti svaki aspekt naloga igrača i odgovoriti vam sa detaljnim odgovorom o tome šta se dogodilo u ovom slučaju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Hello Jozef and Rio1998,
We always take gambling addiction seriously. When the player requests self-exclusion, it's done as soon as possible. Also, having duplicate accounts is prohibited. Our relevant team closes them once such activities are detected.
We will investigate every aspect of the player account in detail and get back to you with a thorough response as to what happened in this case.
Best regards,
Dragi MiStake Casino timu.
Hvala vam puno na saradnji. Produžujem tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas, javite mi ako vam treba više vremena.
Dear MyStake Casino team.
Thank you very much for your cooperation. I am extending the timer by 7 days. Please, let me know if you need more time.
Zdravo Jozef i Rio 1998,
Kako je korisnik naveo da ima problem sa kockanjem, njegov nalog je zatvoren. Korisnik nije koristio drugi račun na kojem ima pristup iznosu depozita i može ga podići.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Hello Jozef and Rio1998,
As the user has mentioned that he has a problem with gambling, his account was closed. The user hasn't used the second account, where he has access to the deposit amount, and he is able to withdraw it.
Best regards,
Dear Rio1998,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Dogovorio sam se sa mistake-om da će mi vratiti 5000 evra i potpisaću obrazac bez potraživanja.
Vratio sam obrazac i sada čekam njihov odgovor.
I’ve come to an agreement with mystake that they will refund me €5000 euros and I will sign a no claims form.
I have returned the form and am now waiting for their response.
Zdravo Rio1998,
drago mi je čuti o tome. Molim vas, javite mi kada bude izvesno, kako bih mogao da zatvorim slučaj kao 'rešen'. Produžujem tajmer za 7 dana.
Hi Rio1998,
glad to hear about that. Please, let me know when it is certain, so I can close the case as 'resolved'. I am extending the timer by 7 days.
Potpisao sam i vratio obrazac pre više od nedelju dana i tek treba da se javim.
Malo sam zabrinut zbog toga koliko dugo traje proces, ali nadam se da ću se uskoro čuti.
I signed and returned the form over a week ago now and am yet to hear back.
I’m slightly concerned about how long the process is taking to move forward but hopefully I’ll hear from them soon.
Dragi Rio1998,
Hvala vam što koristite centar za rešavanje žalbi Casino Guru. Drago nam je da čujemo da je vaš problem rešen. Sada ćemo to označiti kao 'rešeno' u našem sistemu. Molimo, ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate u budućnosti, ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom. Tu smo da vam pomognemo, ali se nadam da se više nećete susresti sa ovakvim problemom.
Srdačan pozdrav, Jozef
Dear Rio1998,
Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution center. We are glad to hear that your issue got resolved. We will now mark it as 'resolved' in our system. Please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help, but I hope you won’t come across a problem like this again.
Best regards, Jozef
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