Igrač iz Australije optužen je za kršenje bonus uslova postavljanjem pojedinačnih opklada većih od dozvoljenih. Odbili smo žalbu jer igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja.
The player from Australia has been accused of breaching bonus terms by placing single bets greater than the allowed ones. We rejected the complaint because the player didn't respond to our messages and questions.
Igrač iz Australije optužen je za kršenje bonus uslova postavljanjem pojedinačnih opklada većih od dozvoljenih. Odbili smo žalbu jer igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja.
Zdravo
Moja imena Danielle B ****
Slao sam poruke svom VIP menadžeru i ne dobivam odgovore.
Imao sam nekoliko pobjeda i Wagerbeat je to prihvatio rekavši da sam nešto skrivio. Odmah sam ušao u svog VIP menadžera jer 100% radim sve kako treba. Provjeravam moju opkladu pitajući tim na chat pitanja u što se mogu kladiti.
Prvo je moj menadžer rekao da sam položio bodove za lojalnost, ali da sam se kladio preko potrebnog iznosa. Ali to nije istina. Kao i kada polažem bodove za lojalnost, uvijek provjerim s timom za chat kolika je moja maksimalna opklada. I prilično sam sigurna da sam razgovarala sa članom tima na chatu i zvala se Cassie. I rekla je da se ne mogu kladiti više od 15 dolara dok se ne ispune uvjeti opklade i to sam i učinio. Jednom kad je opklada završena, razgovarao sam sa članom tima kada opklade više nije bilo i rekla je da nemam ograničenja.
U svakom slučaju, nakon što sam dobio e-mail od svog menadžera, objasnio sam mu da to ne može biti u redu jer sam prilično temeljito gledao i pazio da sam sve učinio kako treba.
Zatim mu je odgovorio e-poštom rekavši nešto potpuno drugačije što sam učinio od njegove prve e-pošte.
Što sada ne znam šta bih vjerovao s Wagerbeatom.
Rekao je da sam tražio bonus od 3,00 dolara i da oklada nije smjela prijeći 0,90 dolara, ali dao sam 2 ili više oklada. Sada znam da to nije 100% tačno jer nikada nisam tražio bonus za 3 dolara
Ponovo sam mu poslao e-mail, ali od njega nisam reagirao. Od tada sam mu još nekoliko puta poslao e-poštu jer to nije nešto što bi trebalo zanemariti. Sa 12.000 američkih dolara nešto bi trebalo riješiti ako kupac kaže da to nije u redu. Ali od njega uopće nisu dobili odgovore.
Jedan od tih e-maila takođe navodi da sam razgovarao sa 3 različite osobe o onome na što moja opklada ne bi trebalo da prelazi i da su sva tri imala različitu sumu. Prva je bila 1,85 dolara, druga je bila 0,82, a treća 0,62 dolara
Dakle, ako je to bilo 0,62 dolara, ali kladio sam se na 1,85 dolara koliko mi je rečeno i ako sam puno osvojio i povukao ga nakon završetka bonusa i završetka opklade. Ponovo bih izgubio sve svoje dobitke. Jer mi je Wagerbeat rekao pogrešno.
Sada posljednjih nekoliko dana igram i svaki put kada provjerim nije bilo mjesta za klađenje. Sada razmišljajući da mi niti jedan nije potreban, igrao sam samo svojih umanjenih 30% bonusa.
Nakon što sam malo zaigrao, otišao sam čavrljati kao i obično i pitao člana tima što se događa. Zamolio me da snimim snimak ekrana ono što sam mogao vidjeti. Dakle, učinila sam ovo za njega
I rekao je da će ga poslati tehničkom timu i da samo pogleda povlačenje kako će to tamo napisati. Pa jesam.
Dakle, u svemu tome, iako vjerujem da nisam učinio ono što su mi rekli da jesam. I lm da vjerujem da web-lokacija otkriva tehničke probleme, ali to nije slučaj, pa ako je došlo do greške, to nije na meni. I ne bih smio gubiti 12 000 $ jer nisam učinio ništa loše.
Od tada sam pitao tim za podršku može li ovo pitanje razmotriti nadzornik i mogu li dobiti dokaz o onome što mi je rečeno da sam pogriješio.
Dobijem odgovor, a oni samo kažu tim, pogledali su ga i tamo konačno donijeli odluku.
Argumentirao sam oko tri dana, a tim za podršku mi čak ni ne govori šta sam navodno učinio da izgubim 12.000 USD
Poslao sam svom VIP menadžeru još jedan e-mail i on mi uopšte nije odgovorio. Mislila sam da bi trebali pomoći kupcima. Ali on me upravo ignorirao.
To se dogodilo 25. juna i još uvijek pokušavam dobiti odgovore od Wagerbeat-a bez ikakve sreće.
Izvršio sam nekoliko povlačenja, otkazao nekoliko puta jer sam ostao bez sredstava i izvadio 1000 dolara i izvršio još jedno povlačenje.
Sve u svemu imao sam 4 povlačenja
Prva je bila 4000 $, druga 4000 $, treća 4000 $, a posljednja 5000 $
Prvih 4000 dolara urađeno je otprilike 2 dana prije ostatka. Dobio sam to u redu, ali u ostatku sve za što su smatrali da imam pravo je 1000 dolara i to zato što je VIP menadžer rekao je li dobio za mene.
Žao mi je što vas uznemiravam, ali nisam znao šta da radim.
To mi se događalo i ranije, ali ne toliko i rekli su da sam pogriješio. Ali tada sam bio tek nov u kockanju na mreži i zapravo su mi rekli šta sam tačno radio na kojoj igri.
Igram Wagerbeat već više od godinu dana i pročitao sam sve timove i uslove i ako nisam siguran razgovaram s timom za chat. Što je skoro svaki put kad igram.
Zamolio sam ih za dokaz, moje razgovore s timovima jer znam da će pokazati da bih razgovarao s timom za chat s toliko novca.
Ali ja od njih uopšte ništa ne dobivam.
Čak sam tražio dokaz kada se dogodila ova greška.
jer otkad je uzeo cijelih 12 000 lm lm, pretpostavljajući da kažu da sam to učinio na početku.
Ne znam šta da radim.
Pozdrav
Danielle B ****
Hi
My names Danielle B****
I have been messaging my VIP Manager and l don’t get replies.
I had a few wins and Wagerbeat took it saying l did something wrong. I got onto my VIP Manager straight away because l have 100% been doing everything right. Checking my wager bar asking the team on chat questions of what l can bet.
First my manager said l claimed my loyalty points but bet over the required amount. But this is not true. As when l claim my loyalty points l always double check with the chat team what my max bet can be. And lm pretty sure l spoke to a team member on chat and her name was Cassie. And she said l couldnt bet higher then $15 until the wager requirements have been met and that is what l did. Once the wager bar had been done l then spoke to a team member when the wager bar was gone and she said l had no limits.
Anyway after l received the email from my manager l explained to him that, that can not be right as l have been pretty thorough on looking and making sure l did everything right.
He then emailed back saying something totally different l had done from his first email.
Which now l don’t know what to believe with Wagerbeat.
He said l claimed a $3.00 bonus and the bet should not have gone over $0.90 but l had made $2 or more bets. Now l know that is 100% not true because l never claimed a bonus for $3
Again l emailed him back but have had no response from him. Since then l have emailed him a few more times as this is not something that should be ignored. $12,000 is something that should be dealt with if the customer is saying it’s not right. But have had no replies from him at all.
One of those emails is also stating that l spoke to 3 different people of what my wager should not go over and all 3 had a different sum. First was $1.85 second was $0.82 and the third was $0.62
So if it was $0.62 but l had bet the $1.85 that l was told and if l had won a lot and withdraw it after the bonus was all done and wager bar complete. I would have lost all my winnings again. Because l was told wrong by Wagerbeat.
Now for the last few days l have been playing and every time l check the wagering bar has not been there. Now me thinking that l either didn’t need one still only played my less the 30% of the bonus.
After playing quiet a bit l went to chat like l normally do and asked the team member what was going on. He asked me to screenshot what l could see. So l did this for him
And he said he would send it to Technical team and to just look at withdrawal as it will say it there. So that l did.
So in all that even though I believe l didn’t do what l have been told l did. And lm to trust the site picks up on technical problems which it doesn’t, so if there was a mistake made it was not on me. And l should not be losing $12,000 as l didn’t do anything wrong.
I have since then asked the support team if this matter can be looked at by a supervisor and if l could have proof of what lm getting told l did wrong.
I get a reply and they just say a team and looked at it and made there finally decision.
I have argued the point for about 3 days and don’t even get told by the support team of what l have supposedly done to lose $12,000
I sent my VIP Manager another email and he has not replied to me at all. I thought they are supposed to help customers out. But he has just ignored me.
This happened on the 25th June and lm still trying to get answers from Wagerbeat with no luck at all.
I made a few withdrawals, Canceled a few times as l ran out of funds and took $1000 out and made another withdrawal.
All up l had 4 withdrawals
1st one was $4000 2nd $4000 3rd $4000 and the last was $5000
The first $4000 was done about 2 days before the rest. I received that okay but for the rest all they thought l was entitle to was $1000 and that was because so the VIP manager said was he got for me.
I’m sorry to bother you but l didn’t know what to do.
It has happened to me before but not for so much and they said l made a mistake. But that time l was only new at online gambling and they actually told me exactly what l did on what game.
I have been playing Wagerbeat for over a year now and l have read all teams and conditions and if lm not sure l speak to the chat team. Which is almost every time l play.
I have asked them for the proof, my chats with the teams cause l know they will show l would have spoken to the chat team with it being so much money.
But lm getting nothing from them at all.
I even asked for proof of when this mistake happened.
cause since the took the whole $12,000 lm guessing they are saying l did it at the start.
I don’t know what to do.
Regards
Danielle B****
Draga Danielle,
Hvala vam što ste podnijeli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za problem i razumijem vašu frustraciju.
Pažljivo sam provjerio Bonus uslove na web lokaciji i evo što sam pronašao https://www.wagerbeat309.com/en/terms-and-conditions :
„13. Igračima je dozvoljeno da daju pojedinačne oklade niže od 20% od ukupne vrijednosti aktivnog bonusa i ne smiju premašiti 8 EUR, 8 USD, 8 AUD, 8 CAD, 8 NZD, 80 SEK, 80 NOK (prema potrebi). Stoga se klađenje od 8 EUR dok je na snazi aktivni bonus od 100 EUR smatra prihvatljivom praksom. VIP igrači mogu da daju pojedinačne opklade niže od 30% od ukupne vrednosti aktivnog bonusa i ne bi trebalo da prelaze 15 EUR, 15 USD, 15 AUD, 15 CAD, 15 NZD, 150 SEK, 150 NOK (prema potrebi). Imajte na umu da je vaš VIP nivo određen prema vlastitom nahođenju. "
Željeli bismo vidjeti kazina koja implementiraju sisteme koji bi spriječili igrače da ulažu više od dozvoljenih oklada, ali, nažalost, to još nije standardna praksa. Nisu vas zaustavili ili blokirali kada ste odlučili povećati okladu i kao rezultat prekršili ste pravilo maksimalne oklade.
Ako znate da ulažete više od dozvoljenih, nažalost, trenutno ne možemo puno učiniti da podržimo vaš slučaj. Preporučujem vam da pažljivo pročitate sve Uvjete prije početka igre kako biste izbjegli nesporazume u budućnosti. Kazina pokušavaju dizajnirati svoje bonuse kako bi bili što atraktivniji, ali pravila se uvijek moraju poštivati.
Molimo vas, nemojte se ustručavati proslijediti svoje povijesti igara i bonusa zajedno sa relevantnom komunikacijom na petronela.k@casino.guru ako smatrate da ste pogrešno optuženi, u protivnom ću biti prisiljen odbiti vašu žalbu. Unaprijed se zahvaljujem na odgovoru i razumijevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear Danielle,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the issue and understand your frustration.
I carefully checked the Bonus Terms on the website, and this is what I found https://www.wagerbeat309.com/en/terms-and-conditions:
„13. Players are allowed to place single bets lower than 20% of the total value of the Active Bonus credited and should not exceed 8 EUR, 8 USD, 8 AUD, 8 CAD, 8 NZD, 80 SEK, 80 NOK (as applicable). Therefore, placing a bet of 8 EUR while there's an Active Bonus of 100 EUR in effect is considered acceptable practice. VIP players are allowed to place single bets lower than 30% of the total value of the Active Bonus credited and should not exceed 15 EUR, 15 USD, 15 AUD, 15 CAD, 15 NZD, 150 SEK, 150 NOK (as applicable). Please note that your VIP level is defined by the casino's own discretion."
We would like to see casinos implementing systems that would prevent players from placing higher than allowed bets, but, unfortunately, this is not a standard practice yet. You were not stopped or blocked when you decided to increase your bet, and, as a result, you breached the maximum bet rule.
If you are aware of placing higher bets than the allowed ones, sadly, there is not much we can do to support your case at this time. I would strongly recommend reading all the T&Cs carefully before you start playing to avoid any misunderstandings in the future. Casinos try to design their bonuses to be as attractive as possible, but the rules must always be followed.
Please do not hesitate to forward your game and bonus histories along with any relevant communication to petronela.k@casino.guru if you feel that you’ve been accused mistakenly, otherwise, I will be forced to reject your complaint. Thank you in advance for your reply and understanding.
Best regards,
Petronela
Draga Danielle,
Produljujemo tajmer za 7 dana. Imajte na umu da ćemo u slučaju da u zadanom roku ne pružimo potrebne informacije odbiti vašu žalbu.
Dear Danielle,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
Kako proslijediti svoju historiju igara i bonusa.
Nisam se kladio da nisam trebao i lm na x30
Od tada sam vam e-poštom pokušavao dobiti odgovore od mog vip menadžera, a on me opet potpuno ignorira.
Pokušat ću dobiti sve informacije da sam znao kako.
How do l forward my gaming and bonuses history.
l didn’t place bet’s l shouldn’t have and lm at x30
l have since emailing you tried to get answers from my vip Manager and he again is just completely ignoring me.
l will try get all information if l knew how.
Istoriju igara možete zatražiti izravno iz kasina (u Excel formatu). Nakon toga možete ga proslijediti na petronela.k@casino.guru .
You can request your game history from the casino directly (in Excel format). Afterwards, you can forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru.
Draga Danielle,
Produljujemo tajmer za 7 dana. Imajte na umu da ćemo u slučaju da u zadanom roku ne pružimo potrebne informacije odbiti vašu žalbu.
Dear Danielle,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
Zdravo
hvala ti
Pitao sam ih za svoju istoriju. I oba su puta ignorirali pitanje.
Poslao sam e-poštu svom VIP menadžeru i još uvijek nisam dobio odgovor od njega.
Ne znam šta da radim. Ali pokušaću ponovo
Hi
thank you
I have asked them for my history. And they have ignored the question both times.
I have emailed my so call VIP Manager and l still haven’t had a reply from him at all.
l don’t know what to do. But l will try again
Draga Danielle,
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Imajte na umu da ćemo u slučaju da ne dostavite tražene podatke u zadanom roku odbiti vašu žalbu.
Dear Danielle,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
Nažalost, odbacujemo ovaj slučaj jer igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja. Stoga nismo u mogućnosti nastaviti s daljnjim istraživanjem niti predložiti moguća rješenja.
Igrač može ponovo otvoriti ovu žalbu u bilo kojem trenutku.
Unfortunately, we’re rejecting this case because the player hasn’t responded to our messages and questions. Therefore, we’re not able to proceed with further investigation or suggest possible solutions.
The player can reopen this complaint anytime.
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
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Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: youremail@gmail.com
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.