Igrač iz Austrije zatražio je povlačenje početkom juna. Nažalost, njegov nalog je blokiran, a dobici konfiskovani jer se sumnjalo da ima više naloga.
The player from Austria requested a withdrawal at the beginning of June. Regrettably, his account was blocked and winnings confiscated as he was suspected of having multiple accounts. The casino provided sufficient evidence resolving in the complaint being rejected.
Igrač iz Austrije zatražio je povlačenje početkom juna. Nažalost, njegov nalog je blokiran, a dobici konfiskovani jer se sumnjalo da ima više naloga.
Zdravo !
Imao sam veoma srećnu pobedu od preko 7300 € u pomenutom kazinu. Nisam igrao sa bonus novcem, sve je bilo samo za KLADU NA PRAVI NOVAC. Tačnije, imao sam bonus kupovinu u „Frutzu" sa ulogom od 255,60 i profitom od 5156,28 €! Zatim su usledile manje, ali ne i beznačajne pobede do ukupno preko 7000 evra.
Zatražio sam povlačenje 8000 € 6.6.2023. Ovo je nekoliko dana kasnije odbio kazino uz obrazloženje da mi je dozvoljeno da podignem MAKSIMALNO 5.000 € NEDELjNO. Dobro rečeno i urađeno i tražio sam povlačenje 4300 € pošto sam ove nedelje već podigao 600 €. Nedelju dana kasnije dobio sam mejl iz kazina da sam navodno prekršio „politiku dupliranih naloga" jer NAVODNO (!!!) imam drugi nalog. Ne mogu da zamislim da ikada otvorim račun tamo, najviše u partnerskom kazinu (npr. Slotamba). Zatim sam zatražio više informacija o navodnom slučaju i nažalost nisam dobio odgovor do danas (obično se na mejlove odgovara veoma brzo).
Iznos depozita (458 €) mi je tada vraćen i račun je odmah blokiran. Od tada, uprkos mojim upitima, nisam čuo ništa od kazina. Po mom mišljenju, ovo je čista zloupotreba ovlašćenja i predstavlja krivično delo.
Evo nekoliko snimaka ekrana za dokaz:
Dokaz o depozitu i povlačenju
dokazi o profitu
Izjava iz kazina u kojoj se tvrdi da postoji duplikat.
Hello !
I had a very lucky win of over €7300 at said casino. I hadn't played with bonus money, it was all for REAL MONEY BET only. To be more precise, I had a bonus buy at "Frutz" with a stake of 255.60 and a profit of €5156.28! Then followed smaller but not insignificant wins up to a total of over €7000.
I requested a withdrawal of €8000 on 6/6/2023. This was rejected a few days later by the casino on the grounds that I was only allowed to withdraw a MAXIMUM €5,000 PER WEEK. Well said and done and requested a withdrawal of €4300 as I had already withdrawn €600 this week. A week later I received an email from the casino that I allegedly violated the "duplicated accounts policy" because ALLEGEDLY (!!!) I had another account. I can't imagine ever opening an account there, at most with a partner casino (e.g. Slotamba). I then asked for more information about the alleged case and unfortunately have not received an answer to this day (usually emails are answered very quickly).
The deposit amount (€458) was then transferred back to me and the account was blocked immediately. Since then, despite my inquiries, I have heard nothing from the casino. In my opinion, this is pure abuse of power and constitutes a criminal offence.
Here are a couple of proof screenshots:
Proof of Deposit and Withdrawal
profit proofs
Statement from the casino claiming that there was a duplicate.
Hallo !
Ich hatte bei dem besagten Casino einen sehr glücklichen Gewinn von über 7300€. Ich hatte nicht mit Bonusgeld gespielt, war alles nur mit ECHTGELDEINSATZ. Genauer gesagt hatte ich bei einem Bonus Buy bei "Frutz" bei einem Einsatz von 255,60 einen Gewinn von 5156,28 € ! Dann folgten kleinere aber doch nicht unwesentliche Gewinne bis zu einer Gesamtsumme von über 7000€.
Ich beantragte am 6.6.2023 eine Auszahlung von 8000 €. Diese wurde wenige Tage später von Seitens des Casinos abgelehnt mit der Begründung, dass ich nur MAXIMAL 5000 € PRO WOCHE abheben darf. Gut gesagt und getan und beantragte eine Auszahlung von 4300€, da ich diese Woche schon 600 € abgehoben hatte. Eine Woche später kam eine Mail vom Casino, dass ich angeblich gegen die "duplicated accounts policy" verstoßen haben soll, da ANGEBLICH (!!!) ein weiterer Account von mir vorliegen solle. Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen jemals dort einen Account eröffnet zu haben, höchstens bei einem Partner Casino (zum Beispiel Slotamba). Daraufhin verlangte ich mehr Informationen zu dem angeblichen Fall und bekam leider bis heute keine Antwort (in der Regel wird sehr schnell per Mail geantwortet).
Mir wurden daraufhin die Einzahlungssumme (458 €) zurücküberwiesen und der Account wurde sofort gesperrt. Seitdem hörte ich von dem Casino trotz meiner nachfragen nichts mehr. Das ist in meinem Augen purer Machtmissbrauch und stellt eine Straftat dar.
Hier ein Paar beweisscreenshots:
Einzahlungs und Auszahlungsnachweise
Gewinn Nachweise
Statement vom Casino mit der angeblichen Begründung, dass ein Duplikat vorläge.
Draga Greifairitaile,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Koliko dugo igrate u kazinu? Postoji li šansa da je neko iz vašeg domaćinstva ili koji koristi istu IP adresu takođe napravio nalog u ovom kazinu? Možete li da nam kažete da li ste prošli KIC verifikaciju?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Dear Greyfairytayle,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. How long have you been playing at the casino? Is there any chance that someone from your household or using the same IP address has also created an account at this casino? Could you please advise if you have passed the KYC verification?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Veronika
Zdravo ,
Imam samačko domaćinstvo, tako da ne, isključena je mogućnost da se neko drugi registruje sa IP adresom. Da, uspešno sam prošao KIC proceduru i već sam uspešno izvršio nekoliko uplata!
Igrao sam tamo oko 3 nedelje.
Hi ,
I have a single household, so no, the possibility of someone else registering with the IP address is excluded. Yes, I have successfully passed the KYC procedure and have already successfully made several payments!
I've been playing there for about 3 weeks.
Hi ,
ich habe ein Single Haushalt, also nein die Möglichkeit dass jemand anderer mit der ip Adresse sich anmeldet ist ausgeschlossen. Ja ich habe das KYC Verfahren erfolgreich bestanden und schon mehrere Auszahlungen erfolgreich getätigt!
Ich spiele ca seit 3 Wochen dort.
Hvala vam puno, Greifairitaile, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu svom kolegi Petru ( _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da ćete u bliskoj budućnosti videti vaš problem rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Thank you very much, Greyfairytayle, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Pozdrav,
Hvala Greifairitaile što nam je pružio sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih zamolio 24Slots Casino za njihovu pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo zašto je nalog igrača blokiran i da li možemo bilo šta da učinimo da pomognemo u rešavanju ovog problema.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you Greyfairytayle for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask 24Slots Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know why was the player's account blocked and if can do anything to help resolve this issue.
Thank you!
Zdravo Greifairitaile i Peter,
Hvala vam što ste nam se obratili sa ovim pitanjem!
Sistem je otkrio IP podudaranje između igrača i drugog naloga sa korisničkim imenom „Simon4192" koji je registrovan pre njegovog.
Po signalu našeg sistema izvršena je detaljna istraga. To je dovelo do mnogo više nalaza uključujući, ali ne ograničavajući se na:
1. Oba naloga su registrovana istog datuma, sa nekoliko sati razlike.
2. Oba vlasnika su istih godina
3. Obojica su iz istog grada.
4. Oba dele adrese koje su veoma blizu jedna drugoj.
5. Oba deponovana istim metodom.
6. Obojica igraju iste kazino igre.
7. Oba koriste iste strategije klađenja.
Ovo je samo deo nalaza koji su nas naveli da preduzmemo odgovarajuće mere. Sve ovo je naravno pokriveno i našim uslovima i odredbama, na koje je igrač pristao kada se registrovao kod nas:
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U zaključku, radnje preduzete protiv ovog naloga su konačne i neće biti podložne promenama jer imamo više nego dovoljno dokaza da povežemo oba naloga.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Hello Greyfairytayle and Peter,
Thank you for reaching us with this matter!
The system detected an IP match between the Player and another account with the username "Simon4192" which was registered prior to his.
A thorough investigation was carried out due to the signal from our system. It resulted in a lot more findings including but not limited to:
1. Both accounts were registered on the same date, with a few hours difference.
2. Both owners are of the same age
3. Both are from the same city.
4. Both share addresses which are very close to each other.
5. Both deposited with the same method.
6. Both play the same casino games.
7. Both use the same betting strategies.
This is just a part of the findings which led us to take the appropriate actions. All of this is of course covered by our terms and conditions as well, which the Player agreed to when registering with us:
https://24slots.com/pages/terms-and-conditions
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3.11. A duplicate account is considered as such in any case where the account IP address, Personal details, payment account number, and site cookies match with an already existing account with the company.
In conclusion the actions taken against this account are final and will not be subject to change as we have more than enough evidence to connect both accounts.
Kind regards,
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Hvala vam puno na ažuriranju. Draga Greifairitaile , da li ste svesni takve aktivnosti, smatra se da je ovo suprotno odredbama i uslovima i rezultiraće odbijanjem vaše žalbe.
Hvala vam!
Thank you very much for the update. Dear Greyfairytayle, are you aware of such activity, this is considered against terms and conditions and will result in your complaint being rejected.
Thank you!
Hvala na odgovoru - ovaj korisnik je poznat i moj prijatelj i bio je u mom stanu u to vreme. Pokazao mi je ovaj sajt i ja sam se onda registrovao na sajtu, tako da ne može da bude duplikat! Provera identiteta može da se izvrši i na obe strane, mi smo dve različite osobe.
Thanks for the reply - this user is known and a friend of mine and was at my apartment at the time. He showed me this site and I then registered on the site, so it can't be a duplicate! An identity check can also be carried out on both sides, we are two different people.
Danke für die Antwort - dieser Benutzer ist mir bekannt und ist ein Freund von mir und war zu diesem Zeitpunkt bei meiner Wohnung. Er hat mir diese Seite gezeigt und ich hatte mich daraufhin auf der Seite registriert, also ein Duplikat kann es also nicht sein! Es kann auch gerne eine Identitätsprüfung beiderseits vorgenommen werden, wir sind zwei verschiedene Personen.
Dragi 24Slots Casino timu, da li bi igrači mogli da prođu proveru identiteta koja dokazuje da su dve različite osobe?
Hvala unapred!
Dear 24Slots Casino Team, would the players be able to pass an identity check proving that they're two different people?
Thank you in advance!
Draga Greifairitaile , detaljno sam razgovarao o vašoj žalbi sa predstavnikom kazina i došli smo do zaključka. Savetovao bih vam da ubuduće ne igrate sa svojim prijateljem jer se to smatra dosluhom u mnogim kockarnicama i može dovesti do toga da vaš nalog bude blokiran kao što je bio ovde. Industrijski standard je da je jedan nalog dozvoljen samo jednom po osobi i da ste koristili slične obrasce klađenja što je dovelo do toga da su vaši nalozi označeni kao duplikati, ne mogu da vam dodatno pomognem po ovom pitanju jer je kazino pružio dovoljno dokaza.
Iz gore navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli više pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom.
Dear Greyfairytayle, I have discussed your complaint in great detail with a casino representative and we came to a conclusion. I would advise you to not play with your friend in the future as this is considered collusion in many casinos and may cause your account to be blocked as it was here. It is an industry standard that one account is allowed only once per person and you used similar betting patterns which resulted in your accounts being flagged as duplicates, I'm unable to help you further in this matter as the casino provided sufficient evidence.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
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