Imam neke povraćaje sredstava za Grottobook na Revolutu. Ove nedelje bi trebalo da znaju da li su odgovorili ili ne u prvom koraku.
I have some waiting chargebacks for Grottobook on Revolut. Should know this week if they have replied or not in the first step.
Zdravo.
Dakle, pokušao sam da vratim naplatu sa Ocean kreditnom karticom (velika prva) koja je odbila povraćaj sredstava, a zatim me savetovala da krenem putem prevare, a zatim je odbila ovo i nisam izgubio korišćenje kreditne kartice. Imao sam i veliku kartu koja je bila odvojena od ove, a ni tu nisam izgubio. Ova kartica nije bila pod istragom. Da li se neko od vas javio ombudsmanu?
Hi.
So, I tried to chargeback with Ocean credit card (capital one) who declined the chargeback then advised me to go down the fraud route, then declined this and I have not lost use of the credit card. I also had a capital one card which was separate to this, and I have not lost that one too. This card was not under investigation. Have any of you heard back from the Ombudsman?
Zdravo.
Dakle, pokušao sam da vratim naplatu sa Ocean kreditnom karticom (velika prva) koja je odbila povraćaj sredstava, a zatim me savetovala da krenem putem prevare, a zatim je odbila ovo i nisam izgubio korišćenje kreditne kartice. Imao sam i veliku kartu koja je bila odvojena od ove, a ni tu nisam izgubio. Ova kartica nije bila pod istragom. Da li se neko od vas javio ombudsmanu?
Hi.
So, I tried to chargeback with Ocean credit card (capital one) who declined the chargeback then advised me to go down the fraud route, then declined this and I have not lost use of the credit card. I also had a capital one card which was separate to this, and I have not lost that one too. This card was not under investigation. Have any of you heard back from the Ombudsman?
Zlatno pravilo - nikada ne koristite kreditnu karticu na ovim sajtovima. Ako kažete dobavljaču kreditne kartice da se kocka, onda oni lako mogu reći da ste prekršili uslove i uslove na kartici i poništiti je (sa dugom još uvek). Ovo je uprkos tome što se kod 7995 ne koristi (jer da jeste, onda bi bio automatski blokiran).
Nemojte koristiti ni debitnu karticu tbf – ono što ovi sajtovi rade je ilegalno maskiranje transakcija što je apsolutno protiv zakona UK i kršenje Mastercard/Visa Merchant T&C-a. Legitimni sajtovi uhvaćeni u tome mogu biti kažnjeni do 10.000 evra po transakciji. Morate da podignete povraćaj sredstava, slučajeve Action Fraud, kontaktirate svakog trgovca koji se pojavi...sve što možete i onda to preuzmete odatle. Idite kod ombudsmana - pronađite operatera kazina, pošaljite poruku dobavljačima igara. Izgradite slučaj - počinioci nemaju načina da dovode u pitanje bilo kakvu povraćaj novca jer na kraju krše zakon i ako ga dovedu u pitanje, to će pokazati pismenim putem!
Golden rule - never use a credit card on these sites, ever. If you tell the credit card provider it is gambling then they can easily say you breached T&C's on the card and cancel it(with the debt still owing). This is despite the 7995 code not being used(because if it was then it would be automatically blocked).
Don't use a debit card either tbf - what these sites are doing is illegal transaction masking which is absolutely against the law of the UK and a breach of Mastercard/Visa Merchant T&C's. Legitimate sites caught doing this can be fined up to 10000 Euros per transaction. You need to raise chargebacks, Action Fraud cases, contact each merchant that appears...everything you can and then take it from there. Go to the Ombudsman - hound the casino operator, message the gaming providers. Build a case - the perpetrators have no way of questioning any chargeback because they are ultimately breaking the law and if they do question it they will be showing this in writing!
mogu li da pitam zašto prvi deo mil posta nije objavljen? Samo sam davao do znanja ljudima da sam pobedio protiv kazina, ali nisam mogao da dam detalje ovde??
can I ask why the fist part of myl post was not published? I was only letting people know I had won against a casino but could not give details here??
Hej, nisam video da ništa nije dodato ili da imaš obrisane postove. Ponekad se postovi spuštaju u naš sistem jer on ocenjuje da možda nisu u skladu sa pravilima foruma i mi moramo da ih odobrimo. Ali ne vidim problem.
Hey, I didn't see that anything wasn't added or that you had any deleted posts. Sometimes posts get dropped into our system because it evaluates that they might not be in accordance with the forum rules and we have to approve them. But I don't see the issue.
malo sam zbunjen. Dakle, šta kažete dobavljaču kreditne kartice? Kažete da ne šaljete skriptu koja je prethodno postavljena, tj. netačne šifre trgovca itd.
Na osnovu onoga što mogu da zaključim, ljudi su uspeli da povraćaju kreditne kartice koristeći ovu proceduru?
I’m a little confused. So what do you say to the credit card provider? You’re saying don’t send the script that has been posted previously, I.e incorrect merchant codes etc.
From what I can gather on here people have been successful with credit card chargebacks using this procedure?
Hvala na odgovoru.
Pokušao sam da kontaktiram trgovce, ali nisam dobio odgovor.
Sada sam isključen iz aplikacije za kreditnu karticu, tako da ne mogu da dobijem nikakve detalje iz svojih izjava.
Hoće li ombudsman pomoći u ovakvom slučaju?
Thanks for your reply.
I have tried contacting the merchants but have had no response.
I am now locked out of my credit card app so can't get any details from my statements.
Will the ombudsman help with a case like this?
Ja sam uspeo sa svojom kreditnom karticom, mislim da si siguran ako je to prvi i jedini put. Ako počnete da ga zloupotrebljavate, mogli bi postati smešni.
I was successful with mine via Credit card, I think you're safe if it's the first and only time. If you start abusing it, they might get funny.
malo sam zbunjen. Dakle, šta kažete dobavljaču kreditne kartice? Kažete da ne šaljete skriptu koja je prethodno postavljena, tj. netačne šifre trgovca itd.
Na osnovu onoga što mogu da zaključim, ljudi su uspeli da povraćaju kreditne kartice koristeći ovu proceduru?
I’m a little confused. So what do you say to the credit card provider? You’re saying don’t send the script that has been posted previously, I.e incorrect merchant codes etc.
From what I can gather on here people have been successful with credit card chargebacks using this procedure?
Ne, ja uopšte ne govorim ništa suprotno od toga. Samo upozorenje da nikada ne koristite kreditne kartice za ovu vrstu stvari jer je to direktno kršenje uslova i uslova i može značiti trenutno zatvaranje kreditne kartice.
Šabloni su u redu - ali jednostavna e-poruka svakom trgovcu koji juri i pokazuje da neće reagovati i pravi slučaj je ključna.
No, I am not saying anything opposite to that at all. Just a warning not to ever use credit cards for this type of stuff as it is a direct breach of T&Cs and can mean an immediate closure of the credit card facility.
The templates are fine - but a simple email to each merchant chasing and showing they won't respond and building a case is key.
Ok, imam te!
Mislio sam da mislite da idete direktno putem 'roba nije primljena', što bi bilo teško jer često ne biste mogli ni da potvrdite šta je roba koju ste naručili zasnovana na deskriptorima na izjavama.
Ok, gotcha!
I thought you were implying going straight down the ‘goods not received’ route which would be difficult since a lot of the time you wouldn’t even be able to confirm what the goods you ordered were based on the descriptors on statements.
Ok, imam te!
Mislio sam da mislite da idete direktno putem 'roba nije primljena', što bi bilo teško jer često ne biste mogli ni da potvrdite šta je roba koju ste naručili zasnovana na deskriptorima na izjavama.
Ok, gotcha!
I thought you were implying going straight down the ‘goods not received’ route which would be difficult since a lot of the time you wouldn’t even be able to confirm what the goods you ordered were based on the descriptors on statements.
Ne – imejl svakog trgovca pošaljite e-poštom i zamolite ih da objasne koja je roba dostavljena i da dostave priznanice za transakcije. Garantovano da nećete dobiti mnogo odgovora!
No - email each merchant name and ask them to clarify what goods were provided and provide receipts for the transactions. Guaranteed you won't get many responses!
To je bila moja namera, da li treba da pomenem netačan MCC u ovoj e-poruci ili jednostavno da istaknem iznos transakcije, datum itd i pitam koju robu/usluge dobijamo?
That was my intention, should I mention the incorrect MCC in this email or simply highlight transaction amount, date etc and ask what goods/services we’re provided?
To je bila moja namera, da li treba da pomenem netačan MCC u ovoj e-poruci ili jednostavno da istaknem iznos transakcije, datum itd i pitam koju robu/usluge dobijamo?
That was my intention, should I mention the incorrect MCC in this email or simply highlight transaction amount, date etc and ask what goods/services we’re provided?
Ne pominji ništa što ne moraš. Pitajte šta je roba i insistirajte na priznanici. To je sve što je potrebno.
Poštovani,
Ks. KSKSKSKSKSKSKS transakcija je preuzeta sa mog bankovnog računa/kartice od KSKSKS. Trgovac naveden u transakciji ste vi.
Navedite detalje o kupljenoj robi i dostavite račun o prodaji za transakciju.
hvala,
KSKSKS
Neka bude jednostavno
Don't mention anything that you don't have to. Question what the goods are and insist on a receipt. That is all that is needed.
Dear sirs,
On Xth of XXXXXXX a transaction was taken from my bank account/card of XXX. The merchant listed on the transaction is you.
Please provide details of the goods purchased and provide a sales receipt for the transaction.
Thanks,
XXX
Keep it simple
Da li je neko imao sreće da pronađe digitalni auri trgovca. Pronašao sam kompaniju sa istim imenom i oni su mi poslali e-poštu rekavši da to nisu oni, ali znaju da ljudi koriste naziv njihove kompanije.
Has anyone had any luck finding the merchant auri digital. I found a company with the same name and they emailed back saying it isn’t them but they are aware of people using their company name.
Ne, i ja ih tražim, pa ako pronađete adresu e-pošte, javite mi.
No, I am also looking for them so if you find the email address, please let me know.
Da li je neko imao sreće da pronađe digitalni auri trgovca. Pronašao sam kompaniju sa istim imenom i oni su mi poslali e-poštu rekavši da to nisu oni, ali znaju da ljudi koriste naziv njihove kompanije.
Has anyone had any luck finding the merchant auri digital. I found a company with the same name and they emailed back saying it isn’t them but they are aware of people using their company name.
Našao sam ovo
Auri Digital Control Technologi Co., Ltd
Marc Luo
TEL:+86-551-65670393
Mobilni telefon/Vhatsapp: +86 18130085731
E-mail:
Dodati: NE. 328# Tian He Road Luiang Industrial Park Hefei Anhui Kina
https://auri361.com/
Found this
Auri Digital Control Technology Co.,Ltd
Marc Luo
TEL:+86-551-65670393
Cell phone/Whatsapp : +86 18130085731
E-mail: marcluo@outlook.fr
Add: NO. 328# Tian He Road Luyang Industrial Park Hefei Anhui China
https://auri361.com/
Šta ako je moj račun u banci zatvoren, zatvorili su ga zbog mnogo transakcija i rekli su da su samo za svakodnevne transakcije.
Sada sam im rekao, želim da radim neke sporove oko transakcija, ali oni kažu da ne mogu da mi pomognu, pošto više nisam kupac, ne mogu da rade nikakve sporove / povraćaje sredstava umesto mene.
Mogu li nešto da uradim?
Koja su moja prava?
What if my account with the bank is closed, they closed it because of to much transactions and they said they are only for day to day transactions.
Now i told them, i want to do some disputes on transactions, but they say they cant help me, since i am not a customer anymore, they can not do any disputes / chargebacks for me.
Anything i can do ?
What are my rights ?
zdravo svima,
Da li se neko trudi da šalje mejlove kazinu direktno sa zahtevima za povraćaj sredstava koristeći šablone pisma?
Pošto mi šaljemo e-poštu trgovcima koji šalju e-poštu kazinu, zar ne može naškoditi?
Hi all,
Is anyone bothering to email casinos directly with refund requests using the letter templates?
Since we’re emailing the merchants emailing the casino can’t do any harm?
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Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali:
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: youremail@gmail.com
Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.