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Da li ste zaista dobili povraćaj sredstava od zpdg-a?
Have you actually had a refund from zpdg?
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Da li ste zaista dobili povraćaj sredstava od zpdg-a?
Have you actually had a refund from zpdg?
Da li je neko imao neuspešno povraćaj sredstava od vaše banke, nakon što je prošao početni korak?
Mislim ako je neko doživeo da trgovac osporava potraživanje, a da banka stane na stranu trgovca.
Have anyone had an unsuccesful chargeback with your bank, after getting through the initial step?
What I mean is if someone has experienced that the merchant disputes the claim, and that the bank sides with the merchant.
Može li neko da pošalje link do VISA propisa u kojima piše da je korišćenje pogrešnog koda trgovca valjan razlog za povraćaj sredstava?
Can someone send a link to VISAs regulations where it states that using the wrong merchant code is a valid reason for chargeback?
Nemam pri ruci direktan izvor, ali možete da proverite njihovu politiku povraćaja sredstava na zvaničnom sajtu VISA-e. Kod povraćaja sredstava se obično uzima u obzir kod kartice trgovca (MCC) ako je zloupotrebljen ili netačno korišćen. Takođe mogu postojati informacije o tome u VISA-inim opštim uslovima korišćenja. Alternativno, možete direktno kontaktirati VISA podršku da biste dobili tačan odgovor.
I don't have a direct source at hand, but you could check the VISA official website for their chargeback policy. Usually, the Merchant Card Code (MCC) is taken into account in chargebacks if it was used abusively or incorrectly. There may also be information about this in VISA's general terms of use. Alternatively, you can contact VISA support directly to get an accurate answer.
Ich habe keine direkte Quelle zur Hand, aber du könntest auf der offiziellen Webseite von VISA nach den Richtlinien für Rückbuchungen suchen. Normalerweise wird der Händlercode (MCC) bei Rückbuchungen berücksichtigt, wenn er missbräuchlich oder falsch verwendet wurde. Vielleicht gibt es auch Informationen dazu in den allgemeinen Nutzungsbedingungen von VISA. Alternativ kannst du den Support von VISA direkt kontaktieren, um eine genaue Antwort zu bekommen.
zdravo svima,
Još uvek vodim pravu tešku bitku sa Chase bankom u vezi sa piekeumom i finnart.io. za sada su ga skinuli putem prevare/prevare i rekli da će to trajati do 35 radnih dana. Prošlo je 15 dana i neće mi dati nikakve informacije osim što pokušavaju da to reše sa trgovcem.
Ako ovo ne uspije, uložiću žalbu jer se odnose na kriptovalute i trebalo je da budu blokirani i da koriste pogrešan MCC.
Što se tiče uslova vize, neko je ranije rekao da su dobili povraćaj sredstava za 12.7 nevažećih podataka, pa pogledajte to.
Hi all,
I'm having a real hard battle still with chase bank regarding piexeum and finnart.io. they have taken it down the scam/fraud route for now and said it would take upto 35 business days. Its been 15 days and they won't give me any information other than they are trying to sort this out with the merchant.
If this fails I'll put in a complaint as they are crypto related and should have been blocked and also used the wrong MCC.
As for the visa terms someone earlier said they got a chargeback for 12.7 invalid data so look into that.
Nemam pri ruci direktan izvor, ali možete da proverite njihovu politiku povraćaja sredstava na zvaničnom sajtu VISA-e. Kod povraćaja sredstava se obično uzima u obzir kod kartice trgovca (MCC) ako je zloupotrebljen ili netačno korišćen. Takođe mogu postojati informacije o tome u VISA-inim opštim uslovima korišćenja. Alternativno, možete direktno kontaktirati VISA podršku da biste dobili tačan odgovor.
I don't have a direct source at hand, but you could check the VISA official website for their chargeback policy. Usually, the Merchant Card Code (MCC) is taken into account in chargebacks if it was used abusively or incorrectly. There may also be information about this in VISA's general terms of use. Alternatively, you can contact VISA support directly to get an accurate answer.
Ich habe keine direkte Quelle zur Hand, aber du könntest auf der offiziellen Webseite von VISA nach den Richtlinien für Rückbuchungen suchen. Normalerweise wird der Händlercode (MCC) bei Rückbuchungen berücksichtigt, wenn er missbräuchlich oder falsch verwendet wurde. Vielleicht gibt es auch Informationen dazu in den allgemeinen Nutzungsbedingungen von VISA. Alternativ kannst du den Support von VISA direkt kontaktieren, um eine genaue Antwort zu bekommen.
Da li je neko imao neuspešno povraćaj sredstava od vaše banke, nakon što je prošao početni korak?
Mislim ako je neko doživeo da trgovac osporava potraživanje, a da banka stane na stranu trgovca.
Have anyone had an unsuccesful chargeback with your bank, after getting through the initial step?
What I mean is if someone has experienced that the merchant disputes the claim, and that the bank sides with the merchant.
Ovde ću vam ovo učiniti što jednostavnijim.
Ako imate nalog na CasinoKSKSKS.com i plaćate kreditnom/debitnom karticom na ovom mestu, ali vrednosti proizilaze iz vašeg izvoda kao „MrAdubuvungoBookSeller" iz Nigerije, onda prema uslovima i odredbama Mastercard i Visa, plaćanje može biti povezano samo sa proizvod koji prodaje prodavac knjiga - ne kazino. Verovatno nećete dobiti nijednu knjigu, zar ne? Stoga, ako trgovac koji se pojavljuje na izvodu ne može da pruži račune/dokaz o kupovini, transakcija može biti u potpunosti naplaćena. CasinoKSKSKS.com ne može osporiti tvrdnju jer bi to odustalo od duha – da su transakcije u stvari povezane sa kockanjem na ilegalnom veb sajtu – kockanje ima specifičan MCC kod, tako da je transakcija nevažeća/prevara.
Gore navedeno je suština stvari. Kazino zapravo ne može ništa da ospori.
I will make this as simple as possible for you here.
If you have an account at CasinoXXX.com and pay with a credit/debit card at this place but the values come off your statement as "MrAdubuwungoBookSeller" from Nigeria then under the T&C's of both Mastercard and Visa the payment can only be related to a product sold by the book seller - not the casino. You aren't likely to receive any books are you? Therefore if the merchant appearing on the statement cannot provide receipts/ proof of purchases then the transaction can be fully charged back. CasinoXXX.com cannot dispute the claim as that would give up the ghost - that in fact the transactions are related to gambling at an illegal website - gambling has a specific MCC code so the transaction is invalid/fraud.
The above is the crux of things. The casino cannot actually dispute anything.
To je i moje shvatanje, ako koriste netačan kod da zaobiđu zakon, kako ili zašto bi ikada mogli da ga ospore. To bi značilo priznavanje prevare.
Visa 12.7 je kod koji je koristila moja kompanija za kreditnu karticu i oni su otišli tim putem, a ne robu koja nije primljena.
Ako imate podešen blok za kockanje ili koristite kreditnu karticu gde zakon kaže da je ne možete koristiti za kockanje u UK 12.7 kod za vizu ne bi trebalo da predstavlja problem jer da je ispravan kod korišćen, on bi bio blokiran.
That’s my understanding too, if they use an incorrect code to bypass a law then how or why would they ever be able to contest it. It would mean admitting fraud.
Visa 12.7 is the code that my credit card company used and they went that route rather than goods not received.
If you have a gambling block set up or credit card use where the law states you cannot use one for gambling in UK 12.7 visa code shouldn’t be any issue as if the correct code was used it would have been blocked.
Hvala, svestan sam toga. Ali imao sam povraćaj sredstava tamo gde je trgovac osporio - gde sam pobedio. Nemam pojma kako su to pokušali da ospore. Tako da sam pomalo radoznao da li postoje slučajevi u kojima je trgovac zaista pobedio u sporu oko povraćaja sredstava (gde je situacija upravo onakva kakvu ste opisali, da su oni samo lažna kompanija za plaćanja u kazinu).
Thank you, I am aware of that. But I have had chargebacks where the merchant disputes it - where I have won. I have no idea how they tried to dispute it. So I am just a bit curious if there are any cases, where the merchant has actually won in a chargeback dispute (where the situation is exactly as you describe, that they are just a shell company for casino payments).
Hvala, svestan sam toga. Ali imao sam povraćaj sredstava tamo gde je trgovac osporio - gde sam pobedio. Nemam pojma kako su to pokušali da ospore. Tako da sam pomalo radoznao da li postoje slučajevi u kojima je trgovac zaista pobedio u sporu oko povraćaja sredstava (gde je situacija upravo onakva kakvu ste opisali, da su oni samo lažna kompanija za plaćanja u kazinu).
Thank you, I am aware of that. But I have had chargebacks where the merchant disputes it - where I have won. I have no idea how they tried to dispute it. So I am just a bit curious if there are any cases, where the merchant has actually won in a chargeback dispute (where the situation is exactly as you describe, that they are just a shell company for casino payments).
Nemam pojma da budem iskren. Ako su uspeli da pobede, onda navedena banka/finansijska institucija nije poštovala pravila.
No idea to be honest. If they have managed to win then rules haven't been followed by said bank/financial institution.
To je i moje shvatanje, ako koriste netačan kod da zaobiđu zakon, kako ili zašto bi ikada mogli da ga ospore. To bi značilo priznavanje prevare.
Visa 12.7 je kod koji je koristila moja kompanija za kreditnu karticu i oni su otišli tim putem, a ne robu koja nije primljena.
Ako imate podešen blok za kockanje ili koristite kreditnu karticu gde zakon kaže da je ne možete koristiti za kockanje u UK 12.7 kod za vizu ne bi trebalo da predstavlja problem jer da je ispravan kod korišćen, on bi bio blokiran.
That’s my understanding too, if they use an incorrect code to bypass a law then how or why would they ever be able to contest it. It would mean admitting fraud.
Visa 12.7 is the code that my credit card company used and they went that route rather than goods not received.
If you have a gambling block set up or credit card use where the law states you cannot use one for gambling in UK 12.7 visa code shouldn’t be any issue as if the correct code was used it would have been blocked.
To čak ni ja ne razumem - to je potvrđeno kao zakon u Velikoj Britaniji od strane advokata koji se bave tim sektorom. Negde postoji i sudska praksa oko toga.
This isn't even my understanding of it - it is confirmed as law in the UK by lawyers who deal in that sector. There is case law around it as well somewhere.
Znam da smo ranije razgovarali o Chase-u i moj je bio mali iznos, ali čim sam se požalio, odlučili su da ovlaste povraćaj sredstava.
Pikeleum je takođe bio jedan od mojih koji je prvobitno refundiran pre nekog vremena, putem prevare/prevare. To je prošlo bez problema, ali dva nakon toga je trebalo da se žalim, a onda su mi poslali poruku i rekli šta će to rešiti, rekao sam povraćaj i oni su to uradili odmah. Nisam siguran da li je vrednost faktor jer je bilo samo 40 funti na svakom.
I know we have discussed before about Chase and mine was a low amount, but as soon as I complained they then decided to authorise the chargeback.
Pixeleum was also one of mine that was originally refunded a while back, via the fraud/scam route. That went through no bother but two after that needed me to complain and then they messaged saying what will resolve it, I said chargeback and they did it there and then. Not sure if value is a factor as it was only £40 on each one.
Momci. Nadam se da ćeš imati više sreće od mene jer su ovi momci grozni.
ZPDG je fundof.me
to je plaćanje koje koriste pod nazivom Zap, to je veb-sajt za 'kreatore koji daju napojnicu', ali neće vam reći kome ste dali da ih bombardujete
Guys. I hope you have better luck than me because these guys are awful.
ZPDG is fundof.me
it’s a payment they use called Zap it’s a website for ‘tipping creators’ but they won’t tell you who you tipped bombard them
Hvala druže - njih nisam uspeo da dobijem. Da li ste imali neku komunikaciju sa njima?
Thanks mate - they're one I've not been able to get ahold of. Have you had any communication with them?
Da li je ovo bilo sa kreditnom karticom?
Kako ste podneli povraćaj sredstava? Online formular ili telefon? Da li ste za početak koristili šablon koji su prethodni korisnici postavili sa svim vašim dokazima?
Was this with credit card?
How did you lodge the chargeback? Online form or phone? Did you use the template previous users have posted with all your evidence to begin with?
zdravo druže,
ne, bilo je sa debitnom karticom i koristio sam šablon i dokaze, sve što stalno dobijam je zato što je to onlajn kazino, biće teško, ali me niko ne sluša, patim od mucanja pa se mučim na telefonu u najboljim trenucima tako da Ne znam da li razumeju šta pokušavam da im kažem ili pretpostavljaju šta pokušavam da im kažem, ali sam pokrenuo žalbe da vidim šta se tamo dešava
Hi mate,
no it was with debit card and I used the template and evidence all I keep getting is because it’s a online casino it will be tricky but no1 is listening to me I suffer with a stammer so I struggle on The phone at the best of times so I don’t know if they understand what I am trying to say to them or if they are assuming what I am trying to say to them but I have started the complaints to see what happens there
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