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Dakle, ignorišu zakone. Upravo sam ih prijavio u kansspelautoriteitein. Zamoliću i advokata da to pogleda.
Ah so they are ignoring the laws. I just reported them at the kansspelautoriteitein. I will also ask a lawer to look at it.
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Dakle, ignorišu zakone. Upravo sam ih prijavio u kansspelautoriteitein. Zamoliću i advokata da to pogleda.
Ah so they are ignoring the laws. I just reported them at the kansspelautoriteitein. I will also ask a lawer to look at it.
Zdravo,
imao sam isti problem i takođe iz Holandije. Kopirao sam deo vaše recenzije i takođe ih prijavio KSA.
Zatražio sam povraćaj novca i objasnio im da je ono što ovde rade legalno.
Sada su mi suspendovali nalog i rekli mi da je to moja odgovornost, ali ja zaista nisam znao da nemaju dozvolu. Da li ste dobili povratne informacije od kazina?
Hi,
i had the same issue and also from the Netherlands. I copied a part of your review and also report them to the KSA.
I have asked for a refund and explained them that is legal what they do here.
Now they suspended my account and telling me that is my own responsibility, but I truly did not know they did not have an lincence. Did you get any feedback from the casino ?
ako mogu da uđem,
Želeo bih da istaknem da ako ste imali istu šansu da pobedite kao i bilo ko drugi, traženje povraćaja zvuči čudno. Mislim, ako ste pobedili ranije, da li biste tražili povraćaj novca? Da li biste izgubili dobitak jer sada znate da kazino nije pravilno licenciran?
Ali ne dovodim u pitanje legalnost.
If I may step in,
I would like to point out that if you had the same chance to win as anybody else, asking for a refund sounds weird. I mean, If you won earlier, would you ask for a refund? Would you forfeit the winnings because now you know the casino is not licensed properly?
I'm not questioning the legality, though.
Zdravo Radka,
Pre svega, nikada ne bih igrao tamo da sam znao da su nezakoniti po zakonu NL.
Takođe bih vratio svoj dobitak da imam, ali nemam. Zaista se radi o tome da oni nude nezakonite radnje i upozoravaju druge ljude na to. Ako niko ne uradi nešto onda se ništa nije desilo.. nije u pitanju samo novac, oni moraju biti istraženi i nadamo se platiti milion evra kazne.
Hi Radka,
First of all I would never play there if I knew they are illegal by NL law.
I would also give back my winnings if I had some but i don't. It is really about that they are offering illegal activities and warning other people for it. If nobody does something than nothing happened.. it is not about the money only, they must be investigated and hopefully paying a million euro fine.
Zdravo Gregoire33,
Imam isti utisak i saosećam sa vašim pristupom.
Poenta je da se bavimo poštenjem, tako da sve dok se kazino ne ponaša prema svakom igraču iz vaše zemlje na isti način kao prema drugima, to je fer.
Čim kazino prihvati vaše depozite, ali odluči da ne isplati vaš dobitak, zbog "nedostajuće" licence - to bi bilo krajnje nepravedno. I takav igrač treba da dobije refundaciju.
Hvala vam što ste toliko strastveni u podeli svoje tačke gledišta, samo želim da kažem da nema potrebe da upozoravate igrače.
Dok kazino ne ostane pošten, mislim da neće biti štete.
Hi Gregoire33,
I get the same impression, and I empathize with your approach.
The point is we deal with fairness, so untill the casino treats every player from your country exactly the same way they treat others, it's fair.
As soon as the casino accepts your deposits, but decides not to pay out your winnings, because of its "missing" license - that would be extremely unfair. And such a player should get a refund.
Thank you for being so passionate about sharing your point of view, I just want to say there is no need to alert players.
Till the casino stays fair, no harm is done, I reckon.
Zdravo Radka,
Ako vozim bez vozačke dozvole dobiću kaznu ili još gore. Pre svega greše što prihvataju igrače iz NL, a nemaju odgovarajuća dokumenta za to.
Ne odgovaraju na moje mejlove i nadam se da će na kraju biti pravde.
Hi Radka,
If I drive without having a driving licence i will get a fine or even worse. They are wrong in the first Place by accepting players from NL while not having the right documents for it.
They don’t respond to my emails and I hope there will be justice in the end.
Pravda ne postoji na ovoj zemlji ili vrlo retko.
Novac je postao Bog tako da se ne treba previše nadati pravdi.
Justice does not exist on this earth or very rarely.
Money has become God so you mustn't hope too much for justice.
Gerechtigkeit gibt es auf dieser Erde nicht oder sehr selten.
Geld ist Gott geworden da darfst du auf Gerechtigkeit nicht zu sehr hoffen.
Istina! Ovde bih bar mogao da izrazim svoje razočarenje🙂
True! At least I could express my disappointment here🙂
Tako je kako je. 🙂
Protiv takvih je zaista teško nešto preduzeti jer oni obično imaju mnogo novca i nažalost ovim papirom možete kupiti ljude koji onda ćute i pravda se gurne pod tepih.
Želim vam prijatan dan! 🌴✌🏼✌🏾
That's the way it is. 🙂
It is really difficult to take action against such people because they usually have a lot of money and unfortunately you can buy people with this piece of paper who then remain silent and justice is swept under the carpet.
Have a nice day! 🌴✌🏼✌🏾
So ist es. 🙂
Es ist wirklich schwer gegen solche Menschen vorzugehen da sie meist viel Geld besitzen und man mit diesem Stück Papier leider Menschen kaufen kann die dann schweigen und die Gerechtigkeit unter den Teppich gekehrt wird.
Hab einen schönen Tag! 🌴✌🏼✌🏾
Zdravo Radka,
Ako vozim bez vozačke dozvole dobiću kaznu ili još gore. Pre svega greše što prihvataju igrače iz NL, a nemaju odgovarajuća dokumenta za to.
Ne odgovaraju na moje mejlove i nadam se da će na kraju biti pravde.
Hi Radka,
If I drive without having a driving licence i will get a fine or even worse. They are wrong in the first Place by accepting players from NL while not having the right documents for it.
They don’t respond to my emails and I hope there will be justice in the end.
Zdravo Gregoire33!
Shvatio sam. 🙂
Možete li na trenutak pokušati sa suprotnim pogledom?
Ako voljno odlučite da vozite bez dozvole, možemo pretpostaviti da će kazna uskoro uslediti - kada budete uhvaćeni.
To bi zahtevalo da vas prvi uhvati nadzorni službenik.
Ispravite me ako grešim, ali čak i u vašoj zemlji, nijedna zvanična kancelarija ne nadgleda igrače, zar ne?
Mislim, ako bilo koji igrač dobrovoljno igra u kazinu licenciranom negde drugde, niko zvanično ne brine, nema novčanih kazni niti progona. Je li tako, molim vas?
Moja poenta je, rekao bih, ako takav igrač odabere pristojan i pošten kazino, nema štete.
To je samo drugačiji pristup, saosećam da svi treba da igramo u licenciranim kockarnicama, po mogućnosti u onim zvanično licenciranim.
Hi Gregoire33!
I got it. 🙂
Could you try an opposite view for a moment?
If you willingly decide to drive without a license, we can assume the fine will soon follow - when caught.
That would require an overseeing officer to catch you first.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even in your country, no official office supervises players, right?
I mean, if any player willingly plays in a casino licensed elsewhere, no one cares officially, no fines no persecution. Is that so, please?
My point is, if such a player picks a decent and fair casino, no harm is done, I'd say.
That's just a different approach, I empathize we should all play in licensed casinos, preferably in the officially licensed ones.
Možete dobiti finu igru u nelicenciranom kazinu, kada vas uhvate!. Ali oni se uglavnom fokusiraju na kazina koji nude igre ilegalno.
You can get a fine playing at a unlicensed casino , when caught!. But they mainly focus on the casino's who offer the games illegally.
Zdravo Radka,
imamo autoritet za kockanje i oni istražuju i daće novčane kazne ilegalnim kockarnicama. Prema zakonu NL, ovaj kazino je ilegalan jer nemaju ispravne papire. Takođe ćete dobiti kaznu kao igrač, ali kao što je Sabine već rekla, oni se uglavnom fokusiraju na kazino.
Hi Radka,
we have gambling autorities and they investigate and will give fines to illegal casino’s. According to NL law this Casino is illegal because they have not the right papers. You will also get a fine as player but as Sabine already said, they mainly focus on a the casino’s.
Zdravo Sabine1984,
Hvala na doprinosu!
Nikada nisam čuo ništa u vezi sa opisanom situacijom, dok je određeni igrač „uhvaćen" i kažnjen zbog igranja u nelicenciranom kazinu.
Da li postoje neki zvanični izvori informacija, molim?
Želeo bih da znam kako to tačno funkcioniše.
Hello Sabine1984,
Thanks for your input!
I have never heard anything related to the situation described, while a certain player was "caught" and fined for playing in an unlicensed casino.
Are there any official sources of information, please?
I'd like to know how it works precisely.
Zdravo Radka,
imamo autoritet za kockanje i oni istražuju i daće novčane kazne ilegalnim kockarnicama. Prema zakonu NL, ovaj kazino je ilegalan jer nemaju ispravne papire. Takođe ćete dobiti kaznu kao igrač, ali kao što je Sabine već rekla, oni se uglavnom fokusiraju na kazino.
Hi Radka,
we have gambling autorities and they investigate and will give fines to illegal casino’s. According to NL law this Casino is illegal because they have not the right papers. You will also get a fine as player but as Sabine already said, they mainly focus on a the casino’s.
Zdravo Gregoire33,
Verujem da to funkcioniše prilično slično iu mojoj zemlji. Ali ja procenjujem svaki doprinos koji možete da date. Pošto mi nismo zvanična vlast, pitanjima zakonitosti je, recimo, teže pristupiti - bar meni 🙂.
Da li vam je poznat konkretan igrač koji je kažnjen kao što je opisano?
Hi Gregoire33,
I believe it works quite similarly in my country as well. But I evaluate every input you can provide. Since we are not the official authority, the legality questions are, let's say, harder to approach - at least for me 🙂.
Are you aware of a concrete player who has been fined as described?
Zdravo Radka,
nijedan igrač nije dobio kaznu, verujem. Samo kazino jer oni nude svoje igre jer im nije dozvoljeno. Da li vas zanima samo kazna igrača ili želite da procenite milionske kazne u odnosu na kazne kazina? Jer to je ono što se nadamo da dobijaju. Oni neće biti prvi.
Hi Radka,
no players received a fine I believe. Only the casino’s as they are offering their games as they are not allowed. Are you only interested in the players punishment or are you want to do evaluate the million dollars fines against the casino’s? Because that is what they hopefully get. They will not be the first one.
Zdravo Gregoire33,
Hvala vam što ste me prosvetlili, ne želim da širim pogrešne informacije i zaista cenim vašu zabrinutost.
Iz perspektive pravičnosti, verujem da sam ranije objasnio poentu.
Generalno, brinemo se da li kazina ostaju fer, licenca koja nedostaje nije krajnji razlog za povraćaj depozita, bojim se.
Rekli ste da ste u kontaktu sa KSA u vezi sa vašom pritužbom, tako da ću sačekati ažuriranje. Neka zvanična lokalna vlast deluje, kažem.
Hi Gregoire33,
Thank you for enlightening me, I don't want to spread misleading information, and I truly appreciate your concern.
From the fairness perspective, I believe I explained the point earlier.
In general, we care whether the casinos remain fair, the missing license is not the ultimate reason for any deposit refund, I'm afraid.
You said you are in touch with the KSA regarding your complaint, so I'd wait for the update. Let the official local authority act, I say.
Zdravo Radka,
Bruno kazino uopšte ne odgovara na moje imejlove. Zašto je moja recenzija odbijena? Prijavio sam ih KSA, nisam u kontaktu sa KSA. Činjenica je da prihvataju ljude iz NL-a i da ne odgovaraju na moje imejlove već više od nedelju dana i voleo bih da moja recenzija bude odobrena.
Hi Radka,
Bruno casino is not responding to my emails at all. Why my review is rejected? I reported them to the KSA, I am not in contact with the KSA. That they are accepting NL people and does not respond to my emails for over a week now is a fact and I would like to have my review be approved.
Zdravo, uopšteno govoreći, potpuno razumem da je pogrešno kada kazina ne reaguju na poruke/mejlove igrača. Samo osećam da bi vaš slučaj mogao biti malo drugačiji, jer prema onome što ste pomenuli ovde, prestali su da komuniciraju kada ste zatražili da vam se depoziti vrate i kada ste ih prijavili KSA.
Prema mom ličnom iskustvu, kada igrač zatraži da se nadležni organi umešaju, tuže kazino ili prete tužbom kazina, kazina ponekad prestaju da komuniciraju sa igračem i komuniciraju samo na zvaničnoj osnovi sa autoritetom za licenciranje ili advokati.
To je jednostavno zato što korisnička podrška nije obučena za ovakve situacije i mogli bi da kažu nešto što bi igrač u poslednje vreme mogao da iskoristi protiv kazina. Nisam siguran kakva je trenutna situacija, ali to je jednostavno činjenica koju bih takođe uzeo u obzir.
Hi, generally speaking, I totally understand that it's wrong when casinos don't react to messages / emails from players. I just feel like your case could be a bit different since according to what you mentioned here, they stopped communicating when you requested your deposits to be refunded and you reported them to KSA.
According to my personal experience, when the player asks for authorities to get involved, they sue the casino or they threaten by suing the casino, the casinos sometimes stop communicating with the player and they only communicate on an official basis with the licensing authority or the lawyers.
It's simply because the customer support isn't trained for these types of situations and they could say something that could be lately used by the player against the casino. I'm not sure what the current situation is, but it's it's a simply fact that I'd take into account as well.
Zdravo,
Pišem ovde jer sam se pre dva dana, gledajući ocene nekih kazina, prijavio za BrunoCasino, koji je ovde imao veoma dobar rejting (iznad 9). A kada sam danas ponovo pokušao da proverim njihovu stranicu, ona je nestala! Ima li objašnjenja? Mnogo vam hvala.
Hello,
I'm writing here because two days ago, while looking at the ratings of some casinos, I signed up for BrunoCasino, which had a very good rating here (above 9). And when I tried to check their page again today, it had disappeared! Is there an explanation? Thank you very much.
Zdravo!
Imate oštre oči! Ne brinite, pronašao sam izvor misterije - naš interni sistem kaže „privremeno zatvoren zbog migracije sajta" od 19.7.2023.
Siguran sam da će sajt ponovo biti vidljiv nakon što se ova "nadogradnja" završi. 🙂
Hello!
Keen eyes you have! Don't worry, I found the source of the mystery - our internal system says "temporarily closed due to site migration" Dated 19/07/2023
I'm sure the site will be visible again after this "upgrade" gets finished. 🙂
Zdravo, osećam se isto. Tamo sam se uopšte registrovao jer su kritike bile zaista dobre i pogledam ih ovde u Casinoguru pre nego što uplatim novac bilo gde. Sada sam primetio da kazino više nije na listi kod vas. Ima li razloga ili moram da brinem o svom novcu (oko 1000 evra)?
Hello, I feel the same way. Registered there in the first place because the reviews were really good and I look at them here at Casinoguru before I deposit money anywhere. Now I have noticed that the casino is no longer listed here with you. Is there a reason or do I have to worry about my money (about 1000 euros)?
Hallo, mir geht es ähnlich. Hatte mich dort überhaupt erst angemeldet, da die Bewertungen wirklich gut waren und ich mir diese vorher hier bei Casinoguru anschaue bevor ich irgendwo Geld einzahle. Nun habe ich festgestellt, dass das Casino hier bei euch gar nicht mehr gelistet ist. Hat das einen Grund bzw. muss ich jetzt um mein Geld (ca 1000 Euro) bangen?
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