U pravu ste, nikada nisam kupio kriptovalute, već sam samo guglao. Ne bih znao šta da radim sa tim i kako to funkcioniše tako mi je zbunjujuće, ali da, izvini što guram nos misleći da znam bolje kada ne znam. SMH barem mogu da priznam kada grešim 🤭
You are right I never bought crypto i also just googled. I wouldn't know what to do with that and how it works so confusing to me but yeah Sorry for poking my nose in thinking I know better when I don't. SMH at least I can admit when I am wrong 🤭
Verujte mi, ne želite da naučite kako da se uključite u to! Naknade su takođe divlje, tako da svaki dobitak mora biti prilično značajan da bi se uračunale te naknade.
Još jedna napomena o Cripto-u – mnoga od ovih lukavih kazina uzimaju profit i drže sredstva u kripto imovini kako bi im se ne moglo ući u trag/nepovratiti, ovo uključuje plaćanja karticama/bankom koja ljudi vrše njima i njihovim lukavim trgovcima!
Trust me, you don't want to learn how to get involved with it! The fees are wild as well so any wins need to be fairly substantial to account for those fees.
On another note about Crypto - a lot of these dodgy casinos are taking profits and holding funds in crypto assets to make them untraceable/ non-recoverable, this includes card/bank payments people are making to them and their dodgy merchants!
Hej, čoveče, imam malo spora sa ovim momcima, ispostavilo se da ne samo da su bajt vesti, već su i Eduntage. Obe mi šalju u osnovi kopiraj i lepi imejlove koje obe kompanije vode ljudi sa istim prezimenima. U imejlovima žele moj identifikacioni dokument kada sam odbio da pošaljem ličnu kartu. Sve što sam poslao su brojevi kartica sa zamagljenim delovima i bankovni izvodi sa transakcijama iz Cc-a i banke sa svim ličnim podacima zamagljenim takođe čim sam ovo poslao, rekli su da ne mogu da nađu jasne podatke o transakcijama čak i ako su ovi podaci vidljivi čak iako su ovi podaci vidljivi. autorizacioni kodovi sve što im je dala banka, ali ipak ne mogu da ga pronađu, treba im moja lična karta .odmori me ja nisam idiot Znam kako funkcionišu povraćaji novca obradio sam nekoliko u svoje vreme .kada imaju ID onda mogu da izmisle fakture za kupovine .dao sam i da zna kako mogu da kupim bilo šta sa nepostojećih veb lokacija ? A prema zakonima i pravima o zaštiti podataka ne moram da dajem bilo kakvu ličnu kartu osim ako sumnjaju da sam počinio prevaru što je komično s obzirom na to da su oni pod lupom zbog nezakonitih transakcija. Oni se kopaju po tome što im treba moja lična karta. Ja Cc u mojoj banci i CC kompaniji takođe, ali kao što ste rekli kada su mi odgovorili u banci ne daju Cc
Hey hun ,I am.having a bit of a dispute with these guys turns out that not only they are byte news they are also Eduntage. Both send me basically copy and paste emails both companies ran by people with same surnames .In emails they want ID of me when I refused to send ID .All i sent was card numbers with obscured parts and bank statments with transactions from Cc and bank with all personal information obscured also as soon as I sent this they said they can't find these transactions even though they are clearly visible on statments i even sent literally merchant details authorisation codes everything provided by bank but yet they can't find it they need my ID .give me a break I am not an idiot I know how refunds work I have processed a few in my time .once they have the ID then they can fabricate invoices for purchases .I made it also know how can I purchase anything from non existent websites ? And under data protection laws and rights i do not have to provide any ID unless they suspect me of committing fraud which is comical considering they are the ones under scrutiny for ilegal transactions .They are digging there heels in they need my ID .I Cc in my bank and CC company also but as you said when they respond to me they do not Cc in banks
Upravo ono što se desilo sa mnom, poslao sam pasoš, ali sam takođe jasno stavio do znanja fabrikovanje potvrda, a zatim CC'd u nekoliko organa, što je još važnije GDPR ISO šta god da je! Oni će se vratiti i reći da još uvek nemaju transakcije! Oni su jebeni lukavi. Ali s obzirom na to da su mi se vraćali povraćaji nakon svađe sa njima i svim manjim apoenima, to je sumnjivo.
Pitanje: Ako je kompanija vratila samo deo transakcija, da li je to čini odgovornom i da li će banka onda vratiti ostatak, da li neko zna?
Exactly what happened with me, I sent the passport but also made it very clear of fabrication of receipts and then CC'd in a few authorities, more importantly GDPR ISO whatever it is! They will come back and say they still have no transactions! They are dodgy as fuck. But seeing as I've had refunds come back after arguing with them and all the smaller denominations it's fishy.
Question: If a company has only refunded part of the transactions does this make them liable and will the bank then chargeback the remainder, does anyone know?
Da !!!smanjenje svake odgovornosti u osnovi govoreći da mastercard i Visa imaju stvari da se bave ovim i da ne dele informacije sa trećim licima .Oni mogu da urade 1 .Ja nisam treća strana ja sam vlasnik kartice .Zatražio sam sars kompanija je inače registrovana u UK .
Rekli su da ne vrše povraćaj sredstava. Odgovorio sam i rekao da se ne petljam ni u šta ako se novac ne vrati. Onda ću prijaviti svim nadležnim organima
Yep !!!diminishing all responsibility basically saying mastercard and Visa have things in place to deal with this and they don't share information with 3rd parties .They can do 1 .I am not a 3rd party I am card holder .I have requested a sars the company is also registered in UK by the way .
Said they don't do refunds .I have responded and said I do not mess about either if money is not returned .Then I will be reporting to all the necessary authorities
Kripto je velika muka i može potrajati da stigne na vaš račun i velika je naknada za njegovu kupovinu, a zatim velika naknada za podizanje u banku jedina dobra stvar je što brzo kada dobijete da ga dobijete u vašoj banci. Blokirao sam se od svih njih, oni su dobri u tome da pomognu na taj način i neće povući svoju reč
The Crypto is a massive hassle it can take a while to land in your account and it is a big fee to buy it then a big fee to withdraw it to your bank the only good thing is its quick when you win to get it to your bank I blocked myself from all of them they are good at helping that way and will not go back on their word
Mislite li da ćemo dobiti novac nazad od njih?
spomenuo sam im da imaju broj telefona koji čak ne radi na njihovoj veb stranici i live chat koji je takođe neaktivan. Veoma sumnjivo
Do you think we’ll get money back from them?
i mentioned to them they have a phone number that doesn’t even work on their website and a live chat which is also inactive. Very suspicious
Zdravo Paul,
Sećam se da ste govorili kada ste razgovarali sa mudrima da ste im prosledili spor sličan onima koje ste vodili sa mudrima zbog čega su se predomislili.
da li je ovaj spor koji ste dobili sa drugom bankom ili je bio mudar?
Hi Paul,
I remember you saying when speaking to wise you forwarded them a dispute similar to the ones you ahd with wise which made them change their mind.
was this dispute you won with a different bank or wise itself?
Zdravo druže.
Bila je to druga banka, moja glavna. Koristio sam primer povraćaja sredstava iz koje sam upravo otvorio mudro da je koristim za kockanje/premeštanje novca jer sam saznao da mogu da uzmem novac sa svojih kreditnih kartica i prebacim ga tamo, to je bila velika naknada, ali ja sam to uradio i takođe je imala trenutnu virtuelnu karticu kao što je Revolut, da budem iskren, ako se pravilno koristi, dobar je račun da imam kreditnu karticu za trenutno podizanje novca itd.
Hi bud.
It was a different bank my main one I used the example of the refund from I just really opened wise to use it for gambling/moving money because I found out I could take money from my credit cards and move it to there it was a big fee but I did it and it also had the instant virtual card like Revolut, to be honest if used correctly it is a good account to have withdrawal is instant etc but I was moving thousands from credit cards to it for gambling
Sve u redu sa mnom DT100.
Malo se izgubio trag ovde zbog mnogo novih, čudnih ljudi koji ne pokušavaju da pomognu ili se ne drže knjige. Kao onaj koji je rekao da je žena, ali na mejlovima je pisalo "Dragi Isamel".
Poslednjih nekoliko sporova za mene je procenjeno na konačan izveštaj 09.02, pa se nadam da je urađeno u nedelju! Nadam se da i vaši sporovi idu dobro.
Samo ovde čitam i pokušavam da pomognem u slobodno vreme.
Ugodan vikend svima!
All good with me DT100.
Lost a bit track in here due to a lot of new, weird people who aren't trying to help or don't play by the book. Like the one who said he was the wife, but on the mails its stated "Dear Isamel"..
Last few Disputes for me have estimated final report 09.02, so hopefully done on Sunday! Hope yours Disputes is going well aswell.
Just in here reading, and hopping in trying to help in my spare time.
Have a nice weekend everyone!
Sve u redu sa mnom DT100.
Malo se izgubio trag ovde zbog mnogo novih, čudnih ljudi koji ne pokušavaju da pomognu ili se ne drže knjige. Kao onaj koji je rekao da je žena, ali na mejlovima je pisalo "Dragi Isamel".
Poslednjih nekoliko sporova za mene je procenjeno na konačan izveštaj 09.02, pa se nadam da je urađeno u nedelju! Nadam se da i vaši sporovi idu dobro.
Samo ovde čitam i pokušavam da pomognem u slobodno vreme.
Ugodan vikend svima!
All good with me DT100.
Lost a bit track in here due to a lot of new, weird people who aren't trying to help or don't play by the book. Like the one who said he was the wife, but on the mails its stated "Dear Isamel"..
Last few Disputes for me have estimated final report 09.02, so hopefully done on Sunday! Hope yours Disputes is going well aswell.
Just in here reading, and hopping in trying to help in my spare time.
Have a nice weekend everyone!
I ti druže! Još uvek lovim BITLAB. Sada tražim od banke da iskopa, izgleda da trenutno nisu od pomoći. Suzio sam to na veb lokaciju criptovaveco.com koja je 10000009% Bitebloom Labs LTD, frustrirajuća kada uskrate bilo kakvu potvrdu!
You too buddy! I'm still hunting down BYTLAB. Am now getting the bank to do digging, they seem to be no help at the moment. I have narrowed it down to the website cryptowaveco.com which is 10000009% Bytebloom Labs LTD, frustrating when they deny any acknowledgement!
Hvala na odgovoru Paul. Monzo, Mastercard transakcije debitnom karticom bile su potpuna noćna mora.
Thanks for the reply Paul. Monzo , Mastercard debit card transactions have been a complete nightmare to deal with.
Pulsion je obradio transakcije za Usoft Gaming sa kojim sam pre nekog vremena imao posla oko transakcija kreditnim karticama - apsolutno su odbacili svaki spor i pružili suludu količinu detalja kao rezervnu kopiju kompaniji CC. Pulsion neće odgovoriti, ali kazina koje ste koristili bi mogli.
Pulsion processed transactions for Usoft Gaming who I did have dealings with some time ago around credit card transactions - they absolutely rejected every dispute and provided a crazy amount of detail as backup to the CC Company. Pulsion won't reply, but the casinos you used might.
Imao sam Monzo nalog pre mnogo godina nisu uradili nikakve probleme prvi put, pa drugi put su to uradili, a zatim zatvorili nalog, ali sam sve dobio nazad
I had a Monzo account years ago they did them no probs 1st time then 2nd time they did them then closed the account but I got it all back
Da li ste osporili BITLAB?
Sigurni ste da nije ovo: https://bitlab.in/
Taj je zapravo sa sedištem na Kipru. Kada pogledate njihovu stranicu, piše da imaju kancelariju u SAD, ali nemaju.
Poslao bih im poštu, naveo da imate transakciju koju ne znate i proverio da li ima odgovora.
Ako je poštanska adresa lažna, onda bih osporio kao: roba nije primljena. Zbog toga neće odgovarati na spor, a vi ćete pobediti nakon 45 dana.
Kako je prošlo sa grombookovima ili kako se zovu 🙂?
Have you disputed BYTLAB?
You sure it isn't this one: https://bytlab.in/
That one is actually cyprus based. When looking at their page it says they have office in USA, but they have not.
I would send them mail, specify that you have transaction you don't know to them, and check for any answers.
If the mail address is fake, then I would dispute as: goods not recieved. Due to that they will not answer on the dispute, and you will win after 45 days.
How did it go with grombooks or what they are called 🙂?
Da li ste sigurni da nije bitlab sa sedištem u Indiji (sa lažnom lokacijom u SAD)?
Kako je prošlo sa grombookovima ili kako su se zvali 🙂 ?
You sure it's not bytlab based in India (with fake location in USA)?
How has it gone with grombooks or what they were called 🙂 ?
Ne, to je definitivno biteblooms /EDUNTAGE obe kompanije koje vode isti ljudi. Ali oni koriste bitelabs tehnologiju u odgovoru na e-poštu, oba imejla su kopije jedne druge.
No it's definitely byteblooms /EDUNTAGE both companies ran by same people But they are using bytelabs tech in email response both emails are carbon copies of each other .
Ja sam cc u banci i zatražio Sars Disclosure , kao i cc u Ico i zatražio da mi bilo kakva prepiska koju oni takođe moraju poslati u ovim entitetima u svoj odgovor meni .
I cc in bank and requested Sars Disclosure and also cc in Ico and requested that any correspondence to me that they must also cc in these entities into their response to me .
Razmišljam da možda uradim isto ako mudro ne ispunim zahtev za povraćaj sredstava jer sam imao mnogo povraćaja sredstava od druge banke za isti problem.
mudri su veoma spori sa odgovorom. Ne mogu da verujem da sam podneo spor 31. januara, a oni i dalje traže više informacija... i još uvek u pregledu. Šteta što nemaju nikoga iz tima za sporove da možete kontaktirati preko VIA telefona.
iz mog iskustva, mnogo je lakše podići svoje povraćaje sredstava tako što ćete razgovarati sa timom za sporove, a ne slanjem obrasca.
I’m thinking of maybe doing the same if wise don’t fulfill the chargeback request as I had many refunds from another bank for the same issue.
wise are very slow to reply I can’t believe I submitted the dispute on 31st January and they still keep asking for more info… and still in review. So bad they don’t have anyone from the disputes team you can contact VIA phone.
from my experience it’s way easier to get your chargebacks raised by speaking to the disputes team rather than submitting a form.
Ok, da oni su spori, biće potrebno neko vreme.
100% pošaljite sličan primer povrata novca.
Kad ih vratiš u ćošak, otkrio sam da moraju to da urade.
Ok yes they are slow it will take a while.
100% send the similar refund example.
I found once you back them in to a corner they have to do them.
Imam pitanje kada provajder plaćanja odbije da da bilo kakvu informaciju šta mogu da uradim? Jer znam da katarun stoji iza fluenf-a, ali oni kažu da ne moraju da daju nikakve informacije.
Ust a question when a payment provider refuse to give out any information what can I do ? Because I know katarun is behind fluenfs but they are saying they don’t need to give any information.
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