Zato što su prevaranti… više od 80 ljudi potpisuje ugovore, možda 1 osoba bude plaćena. Zašto ne trošite vreme na ovu vrstu prevare??? Imate dobru platformu i imate moć da rešavate ovakve probleme... ljudi čekaju svoj novac
Because they are scammers… more then 80 people sign contracts maybe 1 person get paid out. Why you dont spend time on this type of scam??? You have a nice platform and you have the power to solve issues like this… people wait on their money
Jer ono što igrači potpisuju sa kazinom i samim tim ugovor nemamo šanse da vidimo. Pogotovo ako imaju informaciju da je nekoliko desetina igrača već potpisalo takve stvari, ali nikome nije uplaćen novac, moje je pitanje zašto tamo igraju. Jednostavno nije u našoj moći da pomognemo u takvoj situaciji čak i da želimo. To je jednostavno dogovor između vas i kazina. 😕
Because what the players sign with the casino and therefore the agreement we have no chance to see. Especially if they have information that several dozen players have already signed such things, but nobody has been paid the money, my question is why they play there. It is simply not in our power to help in such a situation even if we wanted to. It's simply an agreement between you and the casino. 😕
Znate šta je.. razumem da ne možete mnogo da uradite, ali jedino što možete da uradite je da kontaktirate kazino i kažete im o višestrukim pritužbama na isplate dogovorenih ugovora.. ako niko ne uradi nešto ovaj kazino imajte slobodan način da prevarite ljude!
You know what it is.. i can understand that you can not do to much but the only thing that you can do for is contacting the casino and tell them about the multiple complaints about payments of settled agreements.. if nobody does something this casino have the way free to scam people!
Jaro, otvorio sam žalbu gde sam postavio svoj ugovor. A onda je Nik samo zatvorio žalbu. Postoji još jedna rešena žalba sa potpuno istim slučajem na ovoj veb stranici od Betspina. Zaista čudni Casino Guru ne želi da mi pomogne.
Jaro, i opened a complaint where i uploaded my agreement. And then Nick just closed the complaint. There is another resolved complaint with the exact same case at this website from Betspino. Really weird Casino Guru dont want to help me.
Da, zaista sam se žalio 3 puta, ali oni zatvaraju i šalju me poštom da prestanem sa otvorenim žalbama…
Yess really like that i had made 3 times a complaint but they close and mail me to stop with open complaints…
Pomažete igračima iz betspino-a sa istim problemom kao i mi. Ali igrači iz lalabeta vam ne pomažu.. potpuno je isto pitanje i isti dogovor i ista Casbit grupa!
You help players from betspino with the same issue as us. But players from lalabet you dont help.. its exact the same issue and the same agreement and the same Casbit Group!
Jaro, otvorio sam žalbu gde sam postavio svoj ugovor. A onda je Nik samo zatvorio žalbu. Postoji još jedna rešena žalba sa potpuno istim slučajem na ovoj veb stranici od Betspina. Zaista čudni Casino Guru ne želi da mi pomogne.
Jaro, i opened a complaint where i uploaded my agreement. And then Nick just closed the complaint. There is another resolved complaint with the exact same case at this website from Betspino. Really weird Casino Guru dont want to help me.
Mislim da je deo u kome smo spomenuli da nismo pravnici i da nemamo mogućnosti da rešimo ovakvu situaciju na mestu u ovom slučaju. Niste pomislili da dobijete pravnu pomoć? To bi verovatno bilo mnogo efikasnije u ovom konkretnom slučaju.
Takođe, ako je isti slučaj rešen, slobodno mi ga pošaljite ovde.
I think the part where we mentioned that we are not lawyers and do not have the scope to resolve such a situation is spot on in this case. You didn't think to get legal help ? That would probably be much more effective in this particular case.
Also, if the same case has been solved, feel free to send it to me here.
Znate šta je.. razumem da ne možete mnogo da uradite, ali jedino što možete da uradite je da kontaktirate kazino i kažete im o višestrukim pritužbama na isplate dogovorenih ugovora.. ako niko ne uradi nešto ovaj kazino imajte slobodan način da prevarite ljude!
You know what it is.. i can understand that you can not do to much but the only thing that you can do for is contacting the casino and tell them about the multiple complaints about payments of settled agreements.. if nobody does something this casino have the way free to scam people!
Rekao bih da isto važi i u ovom slučaju, ne bih baš želeo da se ponavljam i govorim isto jer mislim da će to i vama biti dosadno. Takođe bih rekao da isti odgovor koji sam postavio za drugog igrača važi i za vas. Ne ide nam da kontaktiramo kazino na osnovu tako nečeg. Jer ako ih kontaktiramo, još uvek nemamo načina da nastavimo. Mogli bi da nas ignorišu i kažu da je dogovor striktno između igrača i kazina. Samo ne znam šta više da vam kažem, iako saosećam sa svima vama koji ste dospeli u ovu situaciju.
I would say that the same applies in this case, I would not really want to keep repeating myself and saying the same thing because I think it will be annoying for you as well. I would also say that the same answer that I posted for the other player applies to you as well. It doesn't work for us to contact the casino based on something like that. Because if we contact them, we still have no way to proceed. They could ignore us and say that the deal is strictly between the player and the casino. I just don't know what more to say to you, even though I sympathize with all of you who have gotten into this situation.
Izvoli Jaro: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-plaier-vaiting-for-agreed-refund
Možete li me kontaktirati sa korisnikom: JohnLalabet? On je predstavnik kompanije Lalabet koja je ista organizacija.
Casbit Group NV je okončala registraciju svoje kompanije nakon što ih je KSA kaznila zbog nezakonitih operacija. Upravo sada žure u nove kazina i kompanije kako bi izbegli da plaćaju mnogo igrača.
Napravili su tačne kopije svog kazina: Betspino 》Spinibet Lala.bet 》Chacha.bet Junglivin 》Ucobet Justbit 》Joebit
Imam snimke ekrana podrške uživo na Spinibet, Lala.bet i Ucobet gde su mi dali isti VhatsApp broj kao VIP menadžer iz njihovog „Orginigal" kazina i dali su mi istu adresu e-pošte. Oni su se razotkrili.
Oni to rade pod kompanijom u Kostariki: 3-102-897762 LTDA i novom registracijom iz CGB-a pod imenom: Luckivaiz Limited BV u Curacao-u.
Here you go Jaro: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-player-waiting-for-agreed-refund
Can you please get me in contact with user: JohnLalabet? He is a representative of Lalabet which is the same organisation.
Casbit Group N.V has ended their company registration after they have been fined by the KSA for illegal operations. Right now they are rushing to new casino's and companies to avoid paying a lot of players.
They created exact copies of their casino's: Betspino 》Spinybet Lala.bet 》Chacha.bet Jungliwin 》Ucobet Justbit 》Joebit
I have screen recordings of the live support at Spinybet, Lala.bet and Ucobet where they gave me the same WhatsApp number as the VIP manager from their "Orginigal" casino and they gave me the same e-mail adres. They exposed themself.
They are doing this under a company in Costa Rica: 3-102-897762 LTDA and a new registration from the CGB under the name: Luckywayz Limited B.V in Curaçao.
Čak su ignorisali i pisma mog advokata. To je suludo. Možete li me dovesti u kontakt sa Lalabet predstavnikom JohnLalabetom? Moram ovo da rešim što pre ili je moj život gotov.
Evo žalbe koja je rešena: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-plaier-vaiting-for-agreed-refund
They even ignored letters from my laywer. It's insane. Can you bring me in contact with the Lalabet representative JohnLalabet? I have to resolve this asap or my life is over.
Here is the complaint that was resolved: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-player-waiting-for-agreed-refund
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Guys, if you want to play in a good casino, you can find it here: vegaswin.fun , I have already withdrawn 6k$
Izvoli Jaro: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-plaier-vaiting-for-agreed-refund
Možete li me kontaktirati sa korisnikom: JohnLalabet? On je predstavnik kompanije Lalabet koja je ista organizacija.
Casbit Group NV je okončala registraciju svoje kompanije nakon što ih je KSA kaznila zbog nezakonitih operacija. Upravo sada žure u nove kazina i kompanije kako bi izbegli da plaćaju mnogo igrača.
Napravili su tačne kopije svog kazina: Betspino 》Spinibet Lala.bet 》Chacha.bet Junglivin 》Ucobet Justbit 》Joebit
Imam snimke ekrana podrške uživo na Spinibet, Lala.bet i Ucobet gde su mi dali isti VhatsApp broj kao VIP menadžer iz njihovog „Orginigal" kazina i dali su mi istu adresu e-pošte. Oni su se razotkrili.
Oni to rade pod kompanijom u Kostariki: 3-102-897762 LTDA i novom registracijom iz CGB-a pod imenom: Luckivaiz Limited BV u Curacao-u.
Here you go Jaro: https://casino.guru/betspino-casino-player-waiting-for-agreed-refund
Can you please get me in contact with user: JohnLalabet? He is a representative of Lalabet which is the same organisation.
Casbit Group N.V has ended their company registration after they have been fined by the KSA for illegal operations. Right now they are rushing to new casino's and companies to avoid paying a lot of players.
They created exact copies of their casino's: Betspino 》Spinybet Lala.bet 》Chacha.bet Jungliwin 》Ucobet Justbit 》Joebit
I have screen recordings of the live support at Spinybet, Lala.bet and Ucobet where they gave me the same WhatsApp number as the VIP manager from their "Orginigal" casino and they gave me the same e-mail adres. They exposed themself.
They are doing this under a company in Costa Rica: 3-102-897762 LTDA and a new registration from the CGB under the name: Luckywayz Limited B.V in Curaçao.
Da, ali ako imate priliku da pročitate, igrač je to sam rešio i nismo pomogli. Nismo kontaktirali kazino ili predstavnika.
Nažalost, ni ja ne mogu da vas povežem ni sa kim, jer ne mogu tako da menjam kontakte. A koliko sam video, nemamo čak ni tu vrstu kontakta koji ste spomenuli.
Yes, but if you have a chance to read it, the player solved it himself and we didn't help. We didn't contact the casino or the representative.
Unfortunately, I can't connect you with anyone either, because I can't shift contacts like that. And from what I've seen, we don't even have that kind of contact you mentioned.
Imao sam istu pritužbu i zamolio sam vas da kontaktirate lalabet (ponudili su mi i ugovor uz pristanak da vratim 12,8k) i zatvoren je jer 'vi momci niste bili advokati'.
Ive had the same complaint and asked for you guys to contact lalabet (theyve offered me a contract aswell agreeing to refund 12.8k) and it got closed because 'you guys werent lawyers'.
Nije ih briga ovde. Svi imaju potpuno isti dogovor.
They don't give a fuck here. Everyone has exactly the same agreement.
Ze doen geen fuck hier. Iedereen heeft precies dezelfde overeenkomst.
Iskoristite svoj mozak na trenutak, kazino guru se bavi pitanjima vezanim za kazino.
Ovaj ugovor je sa lalabetom u njihovom svojstvu kompanije, a ne kazina, tako da ne potpada pod delokrug onoga što kazino guru rukuje.
Ako se radi o zaplenjenom bilansu, problemu verifikacije itd itd itd. onda da, ali privatni ugovor sa privatnom kompanijom je legalna stvar, a ne kazino stvari (nije bitno da je ugovor/situacija direktno povezana sa stvarima u kazinu, jer je to ugovor to je sada potpuno druga stvar)
Use your brain for a moment, casino guru deals with with casino related issues.
This contract is with lalabet in their capacity as a company rather than a casino so it doesn't fall under the scope of what casino guru handles.
If it was a confiscated balance, verification issue etc etc etc then yes but a private contract with a private company is legal stuff not casino stuff (it does not matter that the contract/situation is directly related with casino stuff, because it is a contract it is now a different thing completely)
Kao što vidite, oni su već odbili da isplate iznos od 30 hiljada jer je igrač bio Holanđanin (što očigledno znaju nakon što su uradili kic). Takođe sam iskusio ograničenja sa svojim povlačenjima i sumnjivim stvarima koje su me naterale da odem na istraživanje. Nakon što sam saznao za većinu toga, pogledao sam to i razumno je sugerisati da sam izgubio ukupno 30 hiljada koje ne bi isplatili ako id pobedi. Ovo je razlog zašto im nije dozvoljeno da prihvate holandske igrače i to nije 'dobit' jer ako osvojite veliki iznos oni neće isplatiti iz istog razloga zbog kojeg želimo povraćaj novca. Trenutno se dešava toliko mnogo slučajeva da je prilično jadno da niko sa velikom bazom iza sebe ne čini ništa da ovo reši
As you can see they have already refused to payout an ammount of 30k because the player was dutch (which they obviously know after doing the kyc). Also ive experienced limits with my withdrawels and shady things which made me go do the research. After finding out about most of it ive looked into it and its reasonable to suggest that ive lost a total of 30k which they wouldnt of paid out if id win. This is the reason why they are not allowed to accept dutch players and its not a 'win-win' because if you win a big ammount they wont payout for the exact same reason we want a refund. There are so many cases going on right now that its pretty pathetic nobody with a big base behind them is doing anything to solve this
To nije privatni ugovor. Njegov vazduh. Oni ga čak nisu ni potpisali + u njemu se doslovno nalazi fraza koja kaže da obe strane mogu da unište ugovor u bilo kom trenutku bez razloga.
Ovo je problem kazina. Ugovori su prazni i nevažeći i šalju se samo na vreme zastoja.
Its not a private contract. Its air. Its not even signed by them + theres litteraly a phrase in it saying the contract can be destroyed at any given time by both parties for no reason.
This is a casino issue. The contracts are empty and void and are only sent to stall time.
Imao sam istu pritužbu i zamolio sam vas da kontaktirate lalabet (ponudili su mi i ugovor uz pristanak da vratim 12,8k) i zatvoren je jer 'vi momci niste bili advokati'.
Ive had the same complaint and asked for you guys to contact lalabet (theyve offered me a contract aswell agreeing to refund 12.8k) and it got closed because 'you guys werent lawyers'.
Iskreno, ako se slažete sa takvim sporazumom, žalosno je očekivati da će se kompanija treće strane bez ikakvog ranijeg priznanja takvih uslova boriti za vaš izbor. Ovo je zaista polje rezervisano za advokate. Molimo vas da se upoznate sa Casino Guru Fair Gamblin Codek-om 👈 ovako razmišljamo o kockanju.
Imajte to na umu kako biste sprečili dalje nesporazume.
Frankly, if you happen to agree with such an agreement, it's unfortunate to expect a third-party company without any earlier acknowledgement of such terms to fight for your choice. This is indeed a field reserved to lawyers. Kindly get familiar with Casino Guru Fair Gamblin Codex 👈 this is how we reflect on gambling.
Keep that in mind to prevent further missunderstandings please.
To nije privatni ugovor. Njegov vazduh. Oni ga čak nisu ni potpisali + u njemu se doslovno nalazi fraza koja kaže da obe strane mogu da unište ugovor u bilo kom trenutku bez razloga.
Ovo je problem kazina. Ugovori su prazni i nevažeći i šalju se samo na vreme zastoja.
Its not a private contract. Its air. Its not even signed by them + theres litteraly a phrase in it saying the contract can be destroyed at any given time by both parties for no reason.
This is a casino issue. The contracts are empty and void and are only sent to stall time.
Da li ste upoznati sa načinom na koji pristupamo zahtevima za refundiranje na osnovu nedostajuće holandske licence? Takve žalbe manje-više na kraju bivaju odbijene:
„Iz naše perspektive, ako odlučite da igrate u kazinu koji nije obuhvaćen vašom nacionalnom šemom samoisključenja, kazino bi trebalo da ponudi mehanizam samoisključenja, a ako odlučite da ne obavestite kazino o bilo kakvim problemima sa kockanjem, nećete biti zaštićen od kazina od deponovanja i igranja.
Takođe, ako kazino prihvati vaš depozit, iako to nije zabranjeno odredbama i uslovima kazina, rizikujete novac. To znači da kazino treba da vam isplati vaše dobitke, ali neće refundirati izgubljena sredstva. "
Izvinjavam se, ali nismo se mogli složiti da je trebalo da dobijete povraćaj sredstava. Advokati se verovatno ne bi složili, ali to je izvan delokruga naše rasprave. Nadam se da to razjašnjava stvari.
Are you familiar with how we approach refund requests based on a missing Duch license, please? Such complaints more or less end up being rejected anyway:
"From our perspective, if you choose to play in a casino not covered by your national self-exclusion scheme, the casino should offer a self-exclusion mechanism, and if you decide not to inform the casino of any gambling problems you will not be protected by the casino from depositing and playing.
Also, if the casino accepts your deposit, while it is not prohibited by the casino's terms and conditions, you will be risking money. That means the casino should pay you your winnings, but will not refund lost funds."
I apologize, but we could not agree that you should have received a refund. Attorneys would likely disagree, but that is outside the purview of our discussion. I hope that clarifies things.
Kao što vidite, oni su već odbili da isplate iznos od 30 hiljada jer je igrač bio Holanđanin (što očigledno znaju nakon što su uradili kic). Takođe sam iskusio ograničenja sa svojim povlačenjima i sumnjivim stvarima koje su me naterale da odem na istraživanje. Nakon što sam saznao za većinu toga, pogledao sam to i razumno je sugerisati da sam izgubio ukupno 30 hiljada koje ne bi isplatili ako id pobedi. Ovo je razlog zašto im nije dozvoljeno da prihvate holandske igrače i to nije 'dobit' jer ako osvojite veliki iznos oni neće isplatiti iz istog razloga zbog kojeg želimo povraćaj novca. Trenutno se dešava toliko mnogo slučajeva da je prilično jadno da niko sa velikom bazom iza sebe ne čini ništa da ovo reši
As you can see they have already refused to payout an ammount of 30k because the player was dutch (which they obviously know after doing the kyc). Also ive experienced limits with my withdrawels and shady things which made me go do the research. After finding out about most of it ive looked into it and its reasonable to suggest that ive lost a total of 30k which they wouldnt of paid out if id win. This is the reason why they are not allowed to accept dutch players and its not a 'win-win' because if you win a big ammount they wont payout for the exact same reason we want a refund. There are so many cases going on right now that its pretty pathetic nobody with a big base behind them is doing anything to solve this
Razumem šta hoćete da kažete, ali ne možemo da se svađamo kao „sigurni smo da ne biste isplatili dobitak, pa u svakom slučaju vratite igraču novac". Moramo imati precizne, neosporne dokaze u rukama da ih upotrebimo protiv kazina. To je poenta.
Razumem šta želite da kažete, ali ne možemo da se raspravljamo sa kazinom jer „sigurni smo da ne biste isplatili dobitak, tako da u svakom slučaju vratite igraču novac". Moramo imati precizne, neosporne dokaze u rukama da ih upotrebimo protiv kazina. To je poenta. Moraju da se ponašaju nepravedno da bi bili kažnjeni. Ako znate za druge igrače koji nisu prihvatili sporazum i kojima je, s druge strane, rečeno da su im dobici konfiskovani jer su igrali iz ograničene zemlje, dovedite ih ovde da podnesu žalbu i to bez sumnje dokažu.
I understand what you're saying, yet we can't argue as "we are sure you would not pay out the winnings, so refund the player anyway." We must have precise, undesputable evidence in hand to use it against the casino. That's the point.
I understand what you're saying, yet we can't argue with the casino as "we are sure you would not pay out the winnings, so refund the player anyway." We must have precise, undesputable evidence in hand to use it against the casino. That's the point. They need to act unfairly to get punished. If you know about other players who have not accepted the agreement and were, on the other hand, told their winnings are confiscated because they have played from a restricted country, bring them here to submit a complaint and prove that without any doubts, please.
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