Za: Nick
Ref: Odgovor na gore navedene komentare
Cijenim ovaj odgovor, ali sam dobro svjestan da je odgovor od Grand Fortunea primljen samo zato što je podnesena žalba. Ovo je PRVO I JEDINO ime zaposlenog za koje sam ikada znao da je povezano sa Grand Fortune. Prije nego što nastavim, dozvolite mi da ispravim jednu stvar. NIKO ME NIJE SVAKI KONTAKTIRAO. NIJE PRIMLJEN NIJEDAN ODGOVOR NA E-MAIL OD JEDNOG AGENTA. NIKO U LIVE CHATU NIJE SA MNOM PRIČAO JER LIVE CHAT NE RADI.
Što se tiče više naloga, UVIJEK sam koristio svoj jedinstveni "Inclave" glavni login, kao metodu pristupa grupi kockarnica koje spadaju pod isti kišobran kao Grand Fortune. To uključuje, ali nije ograničeno na, Planet7Casino, Prism, itd., sa kojima se više ne družim zbog njihove kontinuirane loše poslovne prakse.
AKO STE NEMOJNI:
Inclave mi omogućava trenutni pristup za prijavu, preko njihove specifične hiperveze na svakoj od ovih stranica za prijavu u kazino, što uključuje Grand Fortune, jer Inclave ima svoj vlastiti proces verifikacije. Uzimajući to u obzir, NIJE bilo načina za kreiranje dodatnih naloga jer Inclave neće dozvoliti pristup sajtu kazina ako se to učini. Igrač ne može imati više od jednog Inclave naloga, jer su lični podaci igrača navedeni i verifikovani sa Inclave nalogom.
NI u jednom trenutku me nisu kontaktirali i skrenuli mi pažnju na ovo „navodno" pitanje, a NIKAD nisam dobio nikakvu prepisku. Ne mislite li da bi bila ODLIČNA i RAZMATRNA ideja da kontaktirate igrača ako se pronađu dodatni računi? Ako neko drugi koristi informacije igrača, bez njihove dozvole, smatram da je to od velike važnosti za igrača i kazino. Takođe smatram da je ovo veoma zabrinjavajuće za licenciranje kockarnica.
Ni jednom nisam kontaktiran, putem e-pošte ili na neki drugi način, tražeći dokaz o vlasništvu nad mojim računom, što bih bio više nego rado dao. Tek kada sam zatražio povlačenje, zatražen je bilo kakav oblik identifikacije igrača. OVAJ ZAHTJEV NIJE došao ni sa jednom porukom iz kazina u vezi sa zabrinutošću za dodatne račune. Briga za zaštitu identiteta igrača UVIJEK bi trebala biti od najveće važnosti.
Uz to, i bez da mi ikada bude odbijen pristup mom računu igrača, DALJE pokazuje da će vaš kazino rado prihvatiti depozite od igrača za koje "pretpostavljate i smatrate" da krše vaše Uvjete i odredbe, ali za koje također NE USPJETE da isplatite dobitke kada se zatraži povlačenje. Ovo je dobro poznata STALL taktika koju kazina, kao što su Grand Fortune i kasina koje sam ranije spomenuo, koriste već duže vrijeme.
Naravno, račun za komunalije je sada star. Kada sam ga predao, a imejl imam u folderu za slanje, račun za komunalije je bio ažuran i ne stariji od 3 mjeseca od datuma kada sam predala dokumente. Ovo je još jedna dobro poznata taktika STALL u vašoj istoj grupi kazina.
Prošlo je skoro tri mjeseca otkako sam predao svoje verifikacione dokumente. Da ne spominjem, poslani su na TRI zasebne e-mail adrese koje sam morao pronaći na vašoj web stranici jer vaše dugme za chat uživo ne radi i NIKO NE ODGOVARA NA E-MEJLOVE.
****TRI ODVOJENE E-MAIL ADRESE***
Pravljenje za postupke vašeg kazina nikako nije utjeha. Reći da je vaš kazino pokušao doći do mene je više nego ponižavajuće i vrlo neprofesionalno s vaše strane. Osim ako nemate dokumentaciju koja dokazuje suprotno, a ja sa sigurnošću tvrdim da nemate, predlažem da se lažne izjave uzdrže od bilo kakvih stvari koje uključuju mene kao učesnika. Na moj integritet kao igrača, i kao osobe, ni na koji način ne utječu upitne i nepoštene prakse bilo kojeg poslovanja ili bilo kojeg pojedinca.
Povlačenje dobitaka postalo je mnogo manji faktor, zbog tri mjeseca nepoznavanja gdje se nalaze moji dokumenti niti kome su u rukama. Slanje automatizovanog odgovora sa brojem slučaja koji NE potpisuje nijedan zaposlenik sa imenom, nije odgovor na moje e-poruke. To je poslala automatizirana usluga vašeg kazino sistema JEDNOM. To je bio JEDINI e-mail koji sam dobio od vašeg kazina od prvog dana kada sam predao svoja dokumenta.
U ovom trenutku, zbog činjenice da vaš kazino odbija preuzeti odgovornost za to što nema sredstava za komunikaciju, očiglednog neuspjeha vašeg kazina da zaštiti informacije o igračima i nedostatka temeljnih odgovora koje ste dali kada ste izjavili da je neko pokušao da me kontaktira u vezi s ovim pitanja, s pravom pokazuje nemarno raspoloženje i nedostatak integriteta koje Grand Fortune Casino bira za poslovanje.
Zvanično tražim da se moj Grand Fortune Casino račun odmah zatvori.
Kao igrač mnogih renomiranih ustanova, podržavam SAMO one kompanije koje dokazuju svoj integritet i poštuju svoje igrače.
To: Nick
Ref: Response to Aforementioned Comments
I appreciate this response, but I am well-aware that the response from Grand Fortune was only received because a complaint was filed. This is the FIRST AND ONLY employee name that I have ever known to be associated with Grand Fortune. Before I proceed, let me set one thing straight. NO ONE HAS EVERY CONTACTED ME. NO EMAIL REPLY FROM ANY AGENT HAS BEEN RECEIVED. NO ONE IN LIVE CHAT HAS SPOKEN TO ME BECAUSE THE LIVE CHAT DOES NOT WORK.
In regards to multiple accounts, I have ALWAYS used my single "Inclave" account master login, as a method of accessing the group of casinos which fall under the same umbrella as Grand Fortune. These include, but are far from limited to, Planet7Casino, Prism, etc., all of which I due not associate with any longer due to their continuous bad business practices.
IF YOU ARE UNWARE:
Inclave allows me instant sign-in access, via their specific hyperlink on each of these casino sign-in pages, which includes Grand Fortune, because Inclave has their own verification process. That being said, there was NO way of creating additional accounts because Inclave will not allow access to the casino site if done so. A player cannot have more than one Inclave account, because the players personal information is listed and verified with the Inclave account.
AT NO POINT, was I contacted and this "supposed" issue brought to my attention, and I NEVER received any correspondence. Do you not think it would have been a GREAT and CONSIDERATE idea to contact the player if additional accounts are located? If someone else is using a player’s information, without their permission, I consider this to be of great importance to the player and the casino. I also consider this to be of a great concern with the casinos licensing.
Not once have I been contacted, via email or other method, requesting proof of my account ownership, which I would have been more than happy to provide. It wasn’t until I requested a withdrawal that any form of player identification was requested. THIS REQUEST DID NOT come with any message from the casino regarding the concern of additional accounts. Concern for the protection of a players identity should ALWAYS be of most importance.
With that being said, and without ever being denied access to my player account, FURTHER shows that your casino will gladly accept deposits from players whom you "assume and deem" to be in violation of your T&Cs, but whom you also FAIL to pay winnings once a withdrawal is requested. This is a well-known STALL tactic that casinos, such as Grand Fortune and the casinos I mentioned prior, have been using for quite some time now.
Of course the utility bill is old now. When I submitted it, which I have the email in my sent folder, the utility bill was up to date and no older than 3 months from the date I submitted my documents. This is another well-known STALL tactic amongst your same group of casinos.
It has beeen close to three months now since I submitted my verification documents. Not to mention, they were sent to THREE separate email addresses that I had to find on your website because your live chat button does not work and NO ONE REPLIES TO EMAILS.
****THREE SEPARATE EMAIL ADDRESSES***
Making excuses for the actions of your casino is by no means consolation. To state that your casino has tried to reach out to me, is beyond degrading and very unprofessional on your part. Unless you have documentation to prove otherwise, which I confidently affirm you do not, I suggest the false statements refrain from any matters that include me as a participant. My integrity as a player, and as a person, is by NO means influenced by the questionable and unfair practices of any business or by any individual.
The withdrawal of the winnings became a much smaller factor, due to the three months of not knowing where my documents were located or of who they are in the hands of. Sending an automated reply with a case number and NOT signed by any employee with a name, is not a response to my emails. That was sent by your casino systems automated service ONE TIME. That was the ONLY email I have received from your casino since the first day I submitted my documents.
At this point, due to the fact your casino refuses to take responsibility for having no means of communication, the obvious failure of your casino to protect player information, and the lack of foundation responses you gave when stating that someone tried to contact me regarding these issues, rightfully shows the careless disposition and lack of integrity that Grand Fortune Casino chooses to conduct business.
I formally request my Grand Fortune Casino account be closed immediately.
As a player of many reputable establishments, I ONLY support businesses that prove their integrity and maintain a high regard for their players.
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