Igrač iz Grčke žali se na nejasne bonus uslove. Nakon detaljnijeg ispitivanja, na kraju smo odbacili ovu žalbu kao neopravdanu.
Dobro veče uplatio sam depozit od 250 € i igrao sam danas u predstavi Fortuna čitajući uslove i odredbe, a kasino nedavno bonuse 100% do 500 € i 50 besplatnih okretaja sa opkladom x40 misleći da će mi dodati još 250 € na račun da postanem ukupno 500 € kao u svim ostalim kazinima u kojima igram. Aktivirao sam bonus i uplatio depozit i čekao da vidim 500 €, bonus od 250 € tada nije stigao i u razgovoru s predstavnikom kasina rekao mi je da prvo moram igrati novac, on je to položio za mene i bonus pojavio bi se i tako se dogodilo. Igrao sam svoj početni depozit i kad sam se stavio na nulu, rekli su mi da moram okrenuti 10000 € da bih dobio bonus od 250 €. Da li je to moguće ili se negdje spominje da nisam vidio ??
Good evening I made a deposit of 250 € and I played today in play Fortuna reading the terms and conditions and having the casino recently bonuses 100% up to 500 € and 50 free spins with wager x40 thinking they will add another 250 € to my account to become a total of 500 € as it is in all the other casinos I play. I activated the bonus and made a deposit and waited to see € 500, the € 250 bonus did not come in then and talking to a casino representative he told me that I have to play the money first, he deposited it for me and the bonus would appear and so it happened. I played my initial deposit and when I zeroed they told me that I had to turn over € 10000 to get the € 250 bonus. Is it possible to do this or is it mentioned somewhere that I did not see ??
Καλησπέρα έκανα κατάθεση 250€ και επαιξα σήμερα στην play Fortuna διαβάζοντας τους όρους και τις προϋποθέσεις και έχοντας το καζίνο πρόσφατα μπουνους 100% έως 500€ και 50 δωρεάν περιστροφές με wager x40 νομίζοντας ότι θα προσθέσουν αλλα 250€ στον λογαριασμό μου για να γίνουν συνολικά 500€ όπως είναι και σε όλα τα υπόλοιπα καζίνο που παίζω. Ενεργοποίησα το μπόνους και έκανα καθεση και περίμενα να μου φανούν 500€, το μπόνους των 250€ δεν μπήκε τότε και μιλοντας με εκπροσώπο του καζίνο μου είπε ότι πρέπει πρώτα να παίξω τα λεφτά τις κατέθεσε μου και θα εμφανιζόταν το μπόνους και έτσι έγινε. Έπαιξα την αρχική μου κατάθεση και όταν μηδένισα μου είπαν ότι έπρεπε να τζιραρω 10000€ για να πάρω το μπόνους το 250€. Είναι δυνατόν να γίνει αυτό η αναφέρεται κάπου που δεν το είδα εγώ;;
Dragi froutakides,
Hvala vam što ste podnijeli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog vašeg problema. Možete li, molim vas, savjetovati koji ste tačno bonus pokušali iskoristiti? Možete da objavite njegovo ime ili vezu prilikom ponovne reprodukcije. Pored toga, molimo proslijedite bilo koju relevantnu komunikaciju na petronela.k@casino.guru .
U međuvremenu, imajte na umu da ne možemo kazniti kazino zato što vam automatski ne daje bonus.
Unaprijed se zahvaljujem na odgovoru i nadam se da ćemo vam moći pomoći što je prije moguće.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear froutakides,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Could you please advise which exact bonus you have tried to redeem? You can post its name or a link when replaying. Additionally, please forward any relevant communication to petronela.k@casino.guru.
Meanwhile, please understand, that we can’t penalize the casino for not giving you a bonus automatically.
Thank you in advance for your reply and I hope we will be able to help you as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Petronela
Dobro veče je bio početni bonus na depozit, bonus dobrodošlice 100% i 50freespins. I nešto što sam zaboravio spomenuti kad sam drugi put razgovarao s predstavnikom kasina, na kraju mi je rekao da "ovdje, gospodine, naši kupci igraju za stvarni novac", to je ono što sam položio za igranje u njihovom kasinu ili bonus koji daju oni lažiraju? Žao mi je, ali ne mogu razumjeti ovu logiku konkretnog kasina.
Good evening was the initial deposit bonus the welcome bonus 100% and 50freespins. And something I forgot to mention when the second time I spoke to the casino representative he told me at the end that "here sir our customers play for real money" that is what I deposited to play in their casino or the bonus they give what are they fake? Sorry but I can not understand this logic of this particular casino.
Καλησπέρα ήταν το αρχικό μπόνους κατάθεσης το welcome μπουνους 100% και 50freespins. Και κάτι που ξέχασα να αναφέρω όταν την δεύτερη φορά που μίλησα με τον εκπρόσωπο του καζίνο μου είπε στο τέλος ότι "εδώ κύριε οι πελάτες μας παίζουν με πραγματικά λεφτά" δηλαδή αυτά που κατέθεσα εγώ για να παίξω στο καζίνο τους η το μπόνους που δίνουν τι είναι ψεύτικα; Συγνώμη αλλά δεν μπορώ να καταλάβω αυτήν την λογική του συγκεκριμένου καζίνο.
Možete li proslijediti bilo koju relevantnu komunikaciju na petronela.k@casino.guru ?
Could you please forward any relevant communication to petronela.k@casino.guru?
Dragi froutakides,
Produljujemo tajmer za 7 dana. Imajte na umu da ćemo u slučaju da u zadanom roku ne pružimo potrebne informacije odbiti vašu žalbu.
Dear froutakides,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to provide the required information in the given time frame, we will reject your complaint.
Ne znam da li je moguće ako Fortuna play chat čuva istoriju poruka da vam pošalje razgovor.
I do not know if it is possible, if the Fortuna play chat keeps a message history to send you the conversation.
Δεν ξέρω αν γίνεται, αν κρατάει ιστορικό μηνυμάτων το chat της play Fortuna για να σας στείλω την συνομιλία.
Provjerio sam opće uvjete i ovo sam pronašao https://playfortuna.com/en/display/terms :
"10.7. Prikupljeni bonusi idu na poseban bonus račun. Bonus sredstva se ne mogu igrati dok se u potpunosti ne ulože i ne prebace na stvarni račun igrača. Za prijenos sredstava s bonus računa na stvarni račun igre, potreban je određeni broj oklada stavlja se višestruki iznos dodijeljenih bonusa.
Na primjer, ako Igrač dobije 20 EUR bonusa, koeficijent klađenja na bonuse, prema pravilima akcije, iznosi x25. Zatim, za klađenje na bonuse, igrač se mora kladiti na iznos od 20x25 = 500 EUR. Bonusi ostaju na bonus računu igrača dok igrač ne položi navedeni broj oklada. "
Objasnilo bi zašto vaš bonus novac nije nagrađen.
I have checked the general terms and conditions, and this is what I found https://playfortuna.com/en/display/terms:
"10.7. Accrued bonuses go to a special bonus account. Bonus funds cannot be played until its fully wagering and transferred to the Player's real game account. To transfer funds from the bonus account to the real game account, a certain number of bets that is a multiple of the amount of bonuses given out shall be placed.
For example, if the Player is given 20 EUR of bonuses, the coefficient of wagering bonuses, according to the rules of the action, is x25. Then, to wagering the bonuses, the Player needs to bet on the amount of 20x25 = 500 EUR. The bonuses remain on the Player’s bonus account, until the Player has placed the said number of bets."
It would explain why your bonus money hasn't been rewarded.
Ono što ste pronašli je općenito, a pročitao sam ga kasnije kada sam uplatio depozit i nisam razumio zašto mi nije dodijeljen bonus i pokušavam pronaći prednost kod predstavnika kazina. Poanta je u tome što na stranici koju uđete i pročitate da biste dobili bonus ne piše ništa slično, iako je to trebalo reći jasno, a ne općenito kazino malim slovima. Šaljem snimak ekrana stranice i stranice linkova sa bonusima.
https://playfortuna.com/en/display/first_deposit_bonus
What you found is in the general terms and I read it later when I had made the deposit and I did not understand why I was not credited with the bonus and trying to find an edge with the casino representative. The point is that the page you enter and read to get the bonus does not say anything like that while it should have said it clearly there and not in their general terms casino in small letters. I send the screen shot of the page and the link page of bonuses.
https://playfortuna.com/en/display/first_deposit_bonus
Αυτό που βρήκατε, βρίσκεται στους γενικούς όρους και το διάβασα και εγώ αργότερα όταν πλέον είχα κάνει την κατάθεση και δεν καταλάβαινα γιατί δεν μου έχει πιστωθεί το μπόνους και προσπαθώντας να βρω μια άκρη με τον εκπρόσωπο του καζίνο. Το θέμα είναι ότι στην σελίδα που μπαίνεις και διαβάζεις για να πάρεις το μπόνους δεν αναγράφεται τίποτα τέτοιο ενώ έπρεπε να το λέει ξεκάθαρα εκεί και όχι στους γενικούς όρους τους καζίνο με μικρά γράμματα. Σας αποστέλλω το screen shot της σελίδας και τον σύνδεσμο της σελίδας του μπόνους.
https://playfortuna.com/en/display/first_deposit_bonus
Gledajte, želim vjerovati da ste stranica koja brani svakog igrača i pokušava učiniti najbolje za njega i za cijeli tim. Znate li bolje od mene da su svaki put kad igrač uđe u kazino da igra šanse uvijek protiv njega, ali ako se dogode takve situacije, 99% igrača je osuđeno da ne ostvari značajnu zaradu, bonusi koje daju kazinima su da bih promovirao usluge koje nudi i privukao kupce, ako bih znao da tako funkcionira bonus od početka, ne bih položio nikakav depozit u ovom kasinu, bonus nigdje ne govori kako to funkcionira i očito obmanjuje. Na vašoj stranici pronašao sam playfortuna sa ocjenom 10/10 i vjerovao sam vam. I od trenutka promocije casina i njegovog bonusa, dugujete to sebi. Stoga vas direktno pitam, možete li učiniti nešto u vezi s mojim problemom? Ako ne možete negdje drugdje.
Look I want to believe that you are a page that defends each player and tries to do the best for him and for the whole team. Do you know better than me that every time a player enters a casino to play the odds are always against him, but if such situations happen then 99% of the players are doomed not to get a significant profit, the bonuses they give the casinos are to promote the services it offers and to attract customers, if I knew that this is how the bonus works from the beginning I would not make any deposit in this casino, the bonus does not say anywhere how it works and it is clearly misleading. From your page I found playfortuna with a rating of 10/10 and I trusted you. And from the moment a casino is promoted and its bonus, you owe it to yourself. So I ask you directly, can you do something about my problem? If you can not go somewhere else.
Κοιτάξτε θέλω πιστεύω ότι είστε μια σελίδα που υπερασπίζεται τον κάθε παίκτη και προσπαθεί να κάνει ότι καλύτερο για αυτόν και για όλο το σύνολο. Γνωρίζετε καλύτερα από εμένα ότι κάθε φορά που μπαίνει ένας παίκτης να παίξει σε κάποιο καζίνο οι πιθανότητες είναι πάντα εναντίον του, αν είναι να συμβαίνουν όμως και τέτοιες καταστάσεις τότε το 99% τον παικτών είναι καταδικασμένοι να μην πάρουν κάποιο αξιόλογο κερδος, τα μπόνους που δίνουν τα καζίνο είναι για να κάνει promotion τις υπηρεσίες που προσφέρει και να προσελκύσουν πελάτες, αν το ήξερα ότι λειτουργεί έτσι το μπόνους από την αρχή δεν θα έκανα καμία κατάθεση σε αυτό το καζίνο, το μπόνους δεν γράφει πουθενά πως λειτουργεί και είναι ξεκάθαρα παραπλανητικό. Από την σελίδα σας βρήκα το playfortuna και με αξιολόγηση 10/10 και σας εμπιστευτηκα. Και από την στιγμή που προβάλλεται ένα καζίνο και το μπόνους του, έχετε λόγω και εσείς σε αυτό. Σας ρωτώ λοιπόν ευθέως, μπορείτε να κάνετε κάτι για το πρόβλημα μου; Αν δεν μπορείτε να απευθυνθώ κάπου αλλού.
Potpuno razumijem vaše stajalište i realan sam u vezi sa činjenicom da samo nekoliko igrača pročita Uslove i odredbe prije nego što počnu igrati. Nažalost, to ne mijenja činjenicu da se sva navedena pravila moraju poštivati i pridržavati se u svakom trenutku. Nemoćni smo u odbrani igrača koji su ignorirali pravila.
Obavijestite me ako postoje dodatne informacije koje sam inače previdio, bit ću prisiljen odbiti vašu žalbu. Zaista bih volio da sam imao veću pomoć. Hvala ti.
I fully understand your point of view and I’m realistic about the reality that only a few players read the Terms and Conditions before they start playing. Unfortunately, it doesn’t change the fact that all the listed rules must be followed and adhere at all times. We are powerless in defending players who ignored the rules.
Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked otherwise, I will be forced to reject your complaint. I really wish I were of more help. Thank you.
Nažalost, nakon prikupljanja svih potrebnih informacija odbacujemo ovu žalbu kao neopravdanu. Žao nam je, nismo vam mogli pomoći s ovim, ali nemojte se ustručavati kontaktirati nas u budućnosti ako naiđete na bilo kakav problem u ovom ili bilo kojem drugom kasinu. Ovdje smo da vam pomognemo.
Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information we are rejecting this complaint as unjustified. Sorry, we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.
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