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veritas1979
pre 5 meseci

Da. Ali ovaj kazino veruje da je to jedan te isti PSP - Astropai..


Ali na izvodu mog računa piše nekoliko različitih plastika za plaćanje.. a takođe i drugi provajderi? D

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pre 5 meseci

Da. Ali ovaj kazino veruje da je to jedan te isti PSP - Astropai..


Ali na izvodu mog računa piše nekoliko različitih plastika za plaćanje.. a takođe i drugi provajderi? D

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pre 5 meseci

Don't think there is much you can do.

Astropay been in the game a long time, they most likely don't care.


If you have none of the mentioned merchant names on your statement, there is nothing you can do. There is really no one really processing refunds anymore.

Best you can do is just stop giving away your hard earned money to these casinos.


pre 5 meseci

Ali da li je neko ovde probao Astropai?

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pre 5 meseci

hello do you have contacts for Fatamp, Topcom, Tsinda limited, Altaprime Limited, Steam sync, Stacs ltd, Cloud energy photoelec. if you can help me thank you

staderennais53
pre 5 meseci

Tsinda = Info@tsindagamers.com


https://www.norrsken.org/contact


kigali@norrsken.org / info@norrsken.org


Norrsken are the ones who rent the premises to them.

Ive emailed both, no answer at all 🙁 would be awesome if more people would help 🙂

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Lucid_1337
pre 5 meseci

norrsken = norrsken foundation. Its some kind of Swedish non-profit started by one of the founders of Klarna. Maybe it could be worth reaching out to them directly and ask why they are renting offices to companies involved with unlicensed gambling/ money laundering.


"NORRSKEN IS AN IMPACT ECOSYSTEM WHERE ENTREPRENEURS CAN FIND EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO MAKE SAVING THE WORLD THEIR BUSINESS"


yep tsinda gamers is clearly saving the world lol

pre 4 meseci

Imajte bilo koji APERATOR i ALPASTRIKE

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pre 4 meseci

I have been contacted today by two merchants that are refusing refunds and have specifically referred to the forum.


With nearly 85k views the casinos and merchants are starting to get all over this Legitimate refunds are going to become a lot harder

Sutton
pre 4 meseci

Bilo bi zabavno znati ko su ovo dvoje 🙂

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pre 4 meseci

I have been contacted today by two merchants that are refusing refunds and have specifically referred to the forum.


With nearly 85k views the casinos and merchants are starting to get all over this Legitimate refunds are going to become a lot harder

pre 4 meseci

Haven't really been any refunds in quite long time though, has it?

But people don't seem to be reading more than like 1-2 or two comments, see something about about refunds mentioned and think they can get all their money back.


Like been said many times, refunds are not the win here, the win here is to learn how casinos are abusing payments, acting like criminals, money laundering, etc. And hopefully (probably not), this will make anyone think one step further and stop playing at these casinos. We are all just sponsoring criminals, Russians, and other trashy people to live a life of luxury.


Invest in yourself instead of giving your money away.

pre 4 meseci
Post od Glamors12 je obrisan
pre 4 meseci

I wouldn't hold your breath 🙂

I am actually surprised they haven't taken it down yet, considering that 99% of guru's income comes from being affiliated with all kinds of casinos.

pre 4 meseci

Playing at these casinos is essentially supporting organized crime. Nothing else. You are dealing with the dirtiest individuals imaginable. The verification and payment processes are excessively long, and your money often ends up with unknown companies. There is a glaring lack of responsible gambling measures. These unlicensed casinos represent the worst aspects of the industry, including fraudulent activities, poor security, and no player protection.

pre 4 meseci

After 15 years and untold amounts of losses to these crooks, I finally realize that they are, always have been, and alway will be scams. It's embarrassing to have come to this realization.

Fighting back by challenging their shady payment practices is fair play, so long as you are honest. But, shady payments is only tip of the iceberg and, by themselves, do not scratch the surface as to why these casinos are scams. In fact, you can have shady payment practices and still run an honest casino.

The cancellation of winnings for any reason they can contrive is the wildest and most crooked part of the scam. What I resent the most, and am most embarrassed about, is how they gaslight the player. You win, they don't pay you, and they act like you have done something wrong.

Here's an example of why this is so problematic. Suppose, for arguments sake, you enter the wrong zip code by accident when you sign up. You play on the site and lose $1000. Then, you make one more deposit and get lucky hitting for $2000. You request a withdrawal, submit your paperwork. They notice you used the incorrect zip code when you signed up, and say, for security reasons, that your wins are nullified because of this.

The issue with this example is, 1) many of us have had similar experiences for equally as minor or insane reasons and, 2) this means that you were never really gambling at all with the first $1000 you lost because there was never the possibility of winning as any win would eventually be disqualified. So, you did not get the service you paid for, every dollar you deposited was always going to be forfeited.

If these casinos were operating in the US, they would be subject to a massive class action lawsuit for such practices. They are scams.




pre 4 meseci

After 15 years and untold amounts of losses to these crooks, I finally realize that they are, always have been, and alway will be scams. It's embarrassing to have come to this realization.

Fighting back by challenging their shady payment practices is fair play, so long as you are honest. But, shady payments is only tip of the iceberg and, by themselves, do not scratch the surface as to why these casinos are scams. In fact, you can have shady payment practices and still run an honest casino.

The cancellation of winnings for any reason they can contrive is the wildest and most crooked part of the scam. What I resent the most, and am most embarrassed about, is how they gaslight the player. You win, they don't pay you, and they act like you have done something wrong.

Here's an example of why this is so problematic. Suppose, for arguments sake, you enter the wrong zip code by accident when you sign up. You play on the site and lose $1000. Then, you make one more deposit and get lucky hitting for $2000. You request a withdrawal, submit your paperwork. They notice you used the incorrect zip code when you signed up, and say, for security reasons, that your wins are nullified because of this.

The issue with this example is, 1) many of us have had similar experiences for equally as minor or insane reasons and, 2) this means that you were never really gambling at all with the first $1000 you lost because there was never the possibility of winning as any win would eventually be disqualified. So, you did not get the service you paid for, every dollar you deposited was always going to be forfeited.

If these casinos were operating in the US, they would be subject to a massive class action lawsuit for such practices. They are scams.




pre 4 meseci

Yea, exactly. There is 0 protection against this.


That is why it feels so good to have stopped the gambling on all these shit casinos, over 30 days now without playing and 0 interest to continue. My block on my Swedish license even passed and I just re-blocked myself. so that¨s also nice. I was never extremely gambling addicted, just very bored a lot of the times, but I think it was just an evil cycle that now is broken finally.


I sleep better, I feel better, I save more, I have more to spend on myself. Everything is just better.


veritas1979
pre 4 meseci

I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).

I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔

pre 4 meseci

I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).

I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔

pre 4 meseci

Right. And how many people from your country have made deposits, lost, and never knew they were never getting paid if they won? It is a despicable business practice.


Golfforesite
pre 4 meseci

It is totally scandalous and we are being set up to lose

pre 4 meseci

I second what you’re saying. I put in two complaints to casino guru regarding two Curacao casinos on here and both times they favoured the casinos. Both instances were cases of where the two said casinos had allowed me to become fully KYC verified allowed me to deposit only to be told when requesting withdrawel I was from a restricted country and this was not possible. Casino Guru sided with the casino ( NINECASINO).

I then reported it to their licensing authority and I was refunded my deposits instantly yet casino guru made me feel I was in the wrong. 🤔

pre 4 meseci

Apsolutno ludo ako je ovo istina. Da li je casino.guru znao da igrate iz zabranjene zemlje i da vam je kazino ipak uzeo novac. Kazino je bio u situaciji za pobedu i ipak je uspeo. Teško mi je da poverujem u ovo i apsolutno ne mislim da lažete. Možete li povezati ovaj slučaj?

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loisjefferies98
pre 4 meseci

Prestali su da plaćaju. Zakasnili ste da skočite na brod. Nažalost. Nadam se da nije bilo puno novca za tvoje dobro

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pre 4 meseci

Astropai kaže da se uplate koje su prošle ne mogu refundirati.


ovo su rekli:

„Nije važno gde je novac stavljen sve dok je kreditiran u kazinu"



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