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Radka
pre 5 meseci

Takođe, molim Radku da mi zvanično odgovori da li postoji bar JEDAN klijent na svetu koji je osvojio Mak Vin u igrama kao što su: Sveet Bonanza, Sveet Bonanza Ksmas, The Dog House, The Dog House Megavais???

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VadGars8919
pre 5 meseci

Hello, with all due respect, how should I know that? It would be better to ask the game provider. I have no official information sources about this topic, we do not assemble winning charts, and we are not even the casino. There is no way for me to know.

I would use Google 😀

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pre 5 meseci

Obično tako postupaju prevaranti, koji nemaju šta da odgovore, bolje je blokirati klijenta koji govori istinu nego ispraviti grešku. Igrajući vašeg provajdera 5 godina, primetio sam da su vaši programeri napravili mnogo promena u slotovima. Dakle, sada često dobijate 2-3 skatera, ali to vam ne daje bonus igru, postalo je nemoguće izbaciti maksimalan profit od okretanja. Ove promene su napravljene prošle godine i mnogi igrači su to primetili. Takođe, dozvolili ste da smanjite RTP za vlasnike kazina, ranije je postojao stabilan RTP od 96,8%, sada je na nekim mestima RTP napisan na nivou od 94-95%!

Automatski prevedeno:
pre 5 meseci

Greetings to you!

The thing is that none of you ever tried to provide proof. I perfectly understand you feel like your truth is obvious, but it's not that simple. We at Casino Guru believe that honest casinos show each game RTP, so you have an idea beforehand. Even if the game provider allows casinos to use different RTPs, the player should always have the chance to find out.

What you describe with the scatters is a completely different question, and as I explained, nowadays almost every slot game possesses its own mechanism and special triggers, hence if want to prove the game is not acting correctly, you would need to reverse engineer it. We lack the tools to do that.

Thus, we are both in the same situation, unless someone finds a way to deconstruct each and single game. It simply works on a licensing basis. Licensed casino, gets games from licensed game providers, their certificate ensures games are fair. There is no more to that.

In my opinion, this lack of certainty creates such conversations, and it makes sense to me. I'm able to empathize with your point of you, I'm just saying there is no way to find out.

If you don't believe in this system, I fear there is nothing you can do about that.


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Radka
pre 5 meseci

nema maksimalne pobede u navedenim igrama! Hoćete da kažete da niko od nas ne može da pruži dokaze? Mogu, imam oko 250.000 hiljada screenshot-ova, da li ste spremni da ih primite i obradite???

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VadGars8919
pre 5 meseci

oh,...We have heard this so many times before, screenshots are just untraceable pictures. Do you have the official gaming history? The full scale? That would be at least an official source. Still, analyzing it would paralyze our data team for ages, based on its length. So, we do not engage in this. We are not the official authority equipped with the proper tools; the same for you.

Besides, can you reverse-engineer the slot? I bet you can't, and that's it. How many times do you need me to write it down again? No one can determine the game's full RTP besides its creator, the very same issue is with analyzing gaming history, we don't have the tools.

Radka
pre 5 meseci

Nekada ste ovde bili navedeni kao predstavnik Pragmatic Plai, zar ne?


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VadGars8919
pre 5 meseci

No, I have never been. I'd say, you are talking about Jelena 👈.

I'm Radka, Social Media & Community Specialist, Casino Guru team Member, nice to e-meet you.

pre 5 meseci

Radka, prestani da brbljaš. Imao sam najmanje 2000 besplatnih okretaja za 2, 3 i 5 evra na Big Bass Božić. Sve u različitim kazinima. Najveći dobitak je bio 1700 evra, drugi 11 stotina. 80 odsto ostalih dobitaka je maksimalno 50 evra. Podrazumeva se da je Pragmatic Plai ogromna prevara. Tačno je da niko od nas ne može ništa da uradi po tom pitanju, ali ovo što pričaš o tome da je licencirano itd je glupost do desetog stepena. Kazina poput cashvin.com itd. nemaju čak ni licencu u Nemačkoj, što bi takođe moglo značiti da niko zapravo ne proverava da li je cela stvar legalna. Danas sam odigrao oko 500 okretaja na Božić sa ulogom od 2 evra. Ni jedan besplatni obrt. To znači 0 u 500 šanse za mene. Činjenica da vam ne pokazujemo nikakve dokaze ne znači da lažemo. Ponovo ću samo reći da je Pragmatic Plai monstrum prevara i, što je veoma važno, mnogo se toga dešava protiv njih u pozadini na Telegramu. Mogu samo da kažem da već ima oko 30.000 igrača koji će se tužiti sa advokatima. I svi rade zajedno kao jedna jedinica.

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pre 5 meseci

Nolimit city is a scam too

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Cata1992
pre 5 meseci

Postoji presedan gde je igrač iz Nemačke preko suda vratio sva sredstva potrošena na kazino koji nije imao licencu za pružanje usluga u Nemačkoj, savetujem vam da potražite informacije na Internetu, i ja to trenutno radim, Spremam se da sudskim putem vratim sva izgubljena sredstva.

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pre 5 meseci

Radka, prestani da brbljaš. Imao sam najmanje 2000 besplatnih okretaja za 2, 3 i 5 evra na Big Bass Božić. Sve u različitim kazinima. Najveći dobitak je bio 1700 evra, drugi 11 stotina. 80 odsto ostalih dobitaka je maksimalno 50 evra. Podrazumeva se da je Pragmatic Plai ogromna prevara. Tačno je da niko od nas ne može ništa da uradi po tom pitanju, ali ovo što pričaš o tome da je licencirano itd je glupost do desetog stepena. Kazina poput cashvin.com itd. nemaju čak ni licencu u Nemačkoj, što bi takođe moglo značiti da niko zapravo ne proverava da li je cela stvar legalna. Danas sam odigrao oko 500 okretaja na Božić sa ulogom od 2 evra. Ni jedan besplatni obrt. To znači 0 u 500 šanse za mene. Činjenica da vam ne pokazujemo nikakve dokaze ne znači da lažemo. Ponovo ću samo reći da je Pragmatic Plai monstrum prevara i, što je veoma važno, mnogo se toga dešava protiv njih u pozadini na Telegramu. Mogu samo da kažem da već ima oko 30.000 igrača koji će se tužiti sa advokatima. I svi rade zajedno kao jedna jedinica.

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pre 5 meseci

I do not really understand why you get so rude here, but whatever.🤷‍♀️ Radka always tries to explain and help all the players in need, so if you do not agree with her or any of us, it is your opinion alone. If you feel in need of our help, do not hesitate to contact us.

pre 5 meseci

Nolimit city is a scam too

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pre 5 meseci

Unfortunately, it is really bad that your luck was not by your side there.

pre 5 meseci

Radka, prestani da brbljaš. Imao sam najmanje 2000 besplatnih okretaja za 2, 3 i 5 evra na Big Bass Božić. Sve u različitim kazinima. Najveći dobitak je bio 1700 evra, drugi 11 stotina. 80 odsto ostalih dobitaka je maksimalno 50 evra. Podrazumeva se da je Pragmatic Plai ogromna prevara. Tačno je da niko od nas ne može ništa da uradi po tom pitanju, ali ovo što pričaš o tome da je licencirano itd je glupost do desetog stepena. Kazina poput cashvin.com itd. nemaju čak ni licencu u Nemačkoj, što bi takođe moglo značiti da niko zapravo ne proverava da li je cela stvar legalna. Danas sam odigrao oko 500 okretaja na Božić sa ulogom od 2 evra. Ni jedan besplatni obrt. To znači 0 u 500 šanse za mene. Činjenica da vam ne pokazujemo nikakve dokaze ne znači da lažemo. Ponovo ću samo reći da je Pragmatic Plai monstrum prevara i, što je veoma važno, mnogo se toga dešava protiv njih u pozadini na Telegramu. Mogu samo da kažem da već ima oko 30.000 igrača koji će se tužiti sa advokatima. I svi rade zajedno kao jedna jedinica.

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pre 5 meseci

Hello Dear user.

I'm more than convinced you also believe this is all just one big setup. Still, expressing how things work from our point of view is not babbling. Smart people can make their own decisions based on this "variety" of the subject. We care to explain, providing the space for questions.

If anyone needs to express his truth over the others, it is a mark showing how gambling is unhealthy, especially losing on slots (which are the worst choice when it comes to the house edge).

Let's just keep it decent.

If you would rather think that everyone in the industry is against players, perhaps it is time to move on.

I'm not saying you didn't make an interesting point, but it does not change the outcome, in my opinion.

I'm definitely not interested in arguing. Can you say the same, I wonder.

pre 5 meseci

Postoji presedan gde je igrač iz Nemačke preko suda vratio sva sredstva potrošena na kazino koji nije imao licencu za pružanje usluga u Nemačkoj, savetujem vam da potražite informacije na Internetu, i ja to trenutno radim, Spremam se da sudskim putem vratim sva izgubljena sredstva.

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pre 5 meseci

If I may have a question, do you also consider returning all your winnings to such casinos? I mean, you have your excitement, it seems, but now you want to use the court to get back lost money. What about the winnings?



Radka
pre 5 meseci

Radka did you finally block giannis400?

I-see-you
pre 5 meseci

Yes, unfortunately the player got warnings and there were several of them and if he can't behave and be objective, so we had to take this step. 

pre 5 meseci

I agree that in the last 5 years the slots we have been playing have changed their behavior, I also agree that from casino to casino I have noticed different behavior in the same slots, what I wrote was agreed by giannis400 and the others here.

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I-see-you
pre 5 meseci

I don't take anyone's opinion away, I just sometimes don't understand why someone who has the same view still plays those slots. If you are convinced that they behave differently everywhere and you can't win isn't it best to quit gambling ? Anyone can express their opinion but of course politely and objectively. 🙂

pre 5 meseci

I've been playing PLAYSON's coin strike for a long time, today with 500 spins of 1 euro, I opened the bonus because I had accumulated a lot of coins for those who know, I was rewarded with a bonus of 34 euros LOL, also in the 500 spins, I didn't get into the bonus even once, it always stopped when went to fix the 3rd scatter, I complained to customer service and it threw me the familiar automated message that refers to luck and the control by the competent authorities for fair rng, this game had nothing to do with what I've been playing for years, that's why those who agree on the suspicious behavior of spinning slots from casino to casino. Whenever I have tried to imitate some streamers who change PRAGMATIC PLAY games I have regretted it, I always lose all my money, countless times I have changed 5-6 games losing all the money from the 1st game I played winning, I have never played consecutive games in pragmatic play so I can win. Tip... if you win in a PRAGMATIC play game, don't try to play another one in pragmatic play.

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pre 4 meseci

I have a lot to say about pragmatic and the way they do the dirty for the players .. first of all I want to tell you don’t bet with pragmatic you will be skin of your money all day long with only a few chances by day .. this provider is by far the worst I’ve seen in my entire life .. limit scam they are very bad .. I give you some exemple .. we will take candy land bonanza .. when you play this game and they give you a bonus game who worth more than x50 90% of time they take it back in the next 20 spins to be sure you will not go with any nice wins .. I’ve seen multiples issues with them .. these people who host this game release their spins always around the same zone for a lot of spins they are a big part of the Roberry they can do the exact same spins for all the session .. I noticed that sometimes the game is paused for like 2-3 mins and when they do this Little pause the game turn into a very bad game for a long time .. I can guarantee you after playing this for months something is wrong with this game and they probably fix the game manually .. they take you a lot of spins with bad numbers and come back with some very poor bonus game income like x5 x10 x7 but take 30 spins for this .. I barely see some very big wins in the last 6 month playing this game not only that but they also laugh at your face even if they know that everyone is losing money .. they always talk about the energy and being nice in the live chat of the game and I can assure you every single time when people get mad in this live chat the game get even worst .. what’s the chance for this ? I mean this suppose to be a fair game but it look like someone is controlling this game from behind i can guarantee if someone put his feet’s in this casino to see what’s happen this place will be closed for goods .. now let’s talk about these slots machine .. pragmatic provider is the only one provider who you need 4 symbol to get a bonus game we all know how it’s difficult to get them even with 3 symbols .. but not only that .. all these pragmatic slots I tried them for 6 month straight and barely see some big wins that keep you in the game 90% of time when you make a deposit and playing these slots the money is gone and you can’t never reach the amount of your deposit again to play with its literally money down the drain every single day of the week something is very wrong with this provider and I don’t think this place should be referencial for players this provider should be banned in my country they steal your money with a very low % chances of winning every swingle day is the same with them not a single day is different .. be careful when you play your money with these kind of provider this one is clearly black listed for me and I will try to see if I can start a collectif case vs them to see if we can see more about this pragmatic casino place .. I will do everything possible to see if we can finally know the truth about this place this is not normal and the smelling scam every time I hit these games

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