Zdravo Nik,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Aktivan sam član Bitstarz-a oko 5 godina bez problema. I kod njih sam takođe VIP status već oko 4 godine.
Ja sam ikada koristio svoju visa karticu samo za depozite i oni će uvek plaćati isplate direktno na moj bankovni račun povezan sa mojom visa karticom i bez ikakvih problema.
Sa njima sam potpuno verifikovan 5 godina i nikada nisam imao nikakve negativne interakcije.
Kada je moja visa kartica radila pre otprilike 6 meseci, zapravo sam stavio svoj račun na jednonedeljno čekanje da napravim mini pauzu/odmor i sve je prošlo u redu. Međutim, kada je moje zadržavanje povučeno nedelju dana kasnije, nije bilo opcije za deponovanje putem kreditne kartice.
Od tada sam u nekoliko navrata u poslednjih nekoliko meseci pokušao da im se obratim putem njihovog ćaskanja za podršku da se raspitam zašto je odjednom opcija za deponovanje preko moje visa kartice sada nestala i razgovor za podršku bi odgovorio „uprava odluka i to je sve što vam možemo reći, ali slobodno koristite bitkoin ako želite da igrate". Ovo mi je bilo čudno.
ne koristim bitkoin i ne bih znao kako da koristim svoju visa karticu koja mi je godinama dobro radila.
Zatim mi je 11. aprila VIP Bitstarz tim poslao e-poštu pitajući zašto nisam dao depozite i rekao je sledeće:
" Zdravo,
Nismo te videli neko vreme, pa smo mislili da proverimo kako stvari idu.
Posmatrajući vašu aktivnost u poslednjih 6 meseci, niste bili aktivni niti ste napravili bilo kakve depozite. Ponekad se to dešava, pa smo do sada zadržali vaš VIP status i pogodnosti. Međutim, nismo u mogućnosti da vas zadržimo na VIP ugovoru sa ovim nivoom neaktivnosti, tako da ćemo, nažalost, ako uskoro ne primetimo povećanje depozita i aktivnosti, biti primorani da ponovo procenimo vaš VIP status.
Proveravamo svaki nalog pojedinačno i spremni smo da napravimo kompromis u skladu sa posebnim situacijama. Imajte na umu da sva sredstva deponovana u kazinu treba da budu iz vašeg raspoloživog prihoda, i ako vam zatreba pomoć pri postavljanju ograničenja na vašem računu, slobodno nas kontaktirajte odmah.
Podsećamo, vaše VIP pogodnosti uključuju:
- 10% povraćaja novca na depozite i gubitke, isplaćuje se nedeljno petkom
- Nema ograničenja za gotovinu ili opklade - igrajte kako želite i povlačite koliko želite
- Dodatni VIP 50% bonusa za ponovno punjenje svake nedelje četvrtkom
- Dodatni bonusi na zahtev
- Ekskluzivni pristup novim igrama
Ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja, slobodno odgovorite na ovu e-poštu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Bitstarz VIP tim"
Odgovorio sam objašnjavajući da moja opcija deponovanja putem moje visa debitne kartice više nije dostupna i svi metodi su oduzeti, ostavljajući samo bitkoin, i pitao sam da li mogu da pogledaju kako bi omogućili depozit putem kartice. Ponovo su odgovorili nejasno kako sledi.-
" Zdravo Trejsi,
Nažalost, možete da deponujete samo pomoću kriptovalute zbog odluke menadžmenta, bojim se da su to sve informacije koje možemo da pružimo u vezi sa ovim.
Ako vam je potrebna pomoć u tome, molimo vas da nas obavestite.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Sid"
kada sam rekao da je nepravedno i nisam uradio ništa loše, on je dalje odgovorio ..
" Zdravo Trejsi,
Žao mi je što to čujem. Korišćenje kriptovalute će vam garantovati mnogo brže isplate novca, obično u roku od sat vremena, umesto da čekate do 10 radnih dana za banke. Možemo vam pomoći ako želite da ga koristite."
Ovo je nepravedan odgovor. Njihova stranica dobrodošlice reklamira novim korisnicima da i dalje imaju opciju da uplate VISA karticom pa zašto ne bih?
Ne želim da koristim kriptovalute i želim da deponujem sa svojom visa karticom kao što sam radio godinama. Neće objasniti zašto je to odluka uprave niti šta sam pogrešio. Osećam se diskriminisano i posebno izdvojeno kao dugogodišnji lojalan VIP igrač. Ne razumem šta sam pogrešio ili zašto mi ne dozvoljavaju da polažem sa visa karticom.
Pored toga, želeo bih da napomenem da je moja mama takođe vlasnik računa Bitstarz godinama i da sam pogledala njen račun i da još uvek može da uplaćuje depozite preko svoje debitne kartice Visa, čak i sada aktuelna i to radi. njen poslednji depozit sa visa karticom bio je juče.
Moj muž je takođe vlasnik računa na bitstarz-u i on takođe ima mogućnost da deponuje putem visa debitne kartice.
Jedino je moje što su ga uklonili iz ostavljanja opcije samo za bitkoin depozit.
Obavestite me ako mogu da odgovorim na još pitanja da vam pomognem. Imam i snimke ekrana njihove stranice dobrodošlice, a zatim i moje stranice sa uklonjenim svim opcijama depozita. samo želim da znam zašto.
Hi Nick,
Thank you for your reply.
I have been an active member with bitstarz for about 5 years without an issue. I am also VIP status with them too for about 4 years now.
I have only ever used my visa card for deposits and they will always pay withdrawals direct to my bank account connected to my visa card and without any issue ever.
I have been fully verified for 5 years with them and never had any negative interactions.
When my visa card was working about 6 months ago i actually put my account on a one week hold to take a mini break/rest and that all went fine. However when my hold came off a week later, there was no option to deposit via credit card.
I have since then tried on a number of occasions in the last few months to reach out to them via their support chat to enquire why all of a sudden the option to deposit via my visa card was now missing and the support chat would reply "management decision and thats all we can tell you but feel free to use bitcoin if you want to play". This was strange to me.
i dont use bitcoin and would not know how to and prefer to use my visa card which was working fine for me for years.
Then on 11 April the VIP Bitstarz team emailed me enquiring why i had not been making deposits which said as follows:
" Hi,
We haven’t seen you for a while, so thought we’d check in to see how things are going.
Looking at your activity over the past 6 months, you haven't been active or made any deposits. Sometimes this happens, so until now we have retained your VIP status and perks. However, we are unable to keep you on a VIP deal with this level of inactivity, so unfortunately if we do not see an increase in deposits and activity soon, we will be forced to re-evaluate your VIP status.
We check each and every account individually and are willing to compromise according to special situations. Please note that any funds deposited at a casino should be from your disposable income, and should you need help setting limits on your account feel free to contact us straight away.
As a reminder, your VIP perks include:
- 10% cashback on deposits and losses, paid out weekly on Fridays
- No limits on cashouts or bets - play however you like and withdraw as much as you like
- Extra VIP 50% reload bonus every week on Thursdays
- Additional bonuses on request
- Exclusive access to new games
If you have any questions feel free to reply to this email.
Best regards,
Bitstarz VIP Team"
I replied explaining my option to deposit via my visa debit card was no longer available and all methods had been taken away leaving only bitcoin and asked if they could please take a look to enable via card deposit. They replied again with vagueness as follows.-
" Hi Tracy,
Unfortunately you are only able to deposit using cryptocurrency due to a management decision, that's all the information we can provide regarding this I'm afraid.
If you need any help doing so please let us know.
Best regards,
Sid"
when i advised it was unfair and i did nothing wrong he further replied..
" Hi Tracy,
I am sorry to hear that. Using cryptocurrency will guarantee you much faster cashouts, usually within an hour, rather than waiting up to 10 working days for banks. We can help if you'd like to use it."
This is an unfair reply. Their welcome page adverises to new users they have option to deposit by VISA card still so why dont i?
I dont want to use cryptocurrency and i want to deposit with my visa card as i have been doing for years. They will not explain why its a management decision nor what i did wrong. I feel discriminated against and singled out especially as a longstanding loyal VIP player. I dont understand what i did wrong or why they wont allow me to deposit with visa card.
In addition, i would like to note that my mum is also a bitstarz account holder for years aswell and ive looked at her account and she can still make deposits via her visa debit card even as current as today and has been doing so. her most recent deposit with visa card was yesterday.
My husband also is a bitstarz account holder and he has the option aswell to deposit via visa debit card.
Its only mine that they removed it from leaving bitcoin deposit option only.
Please let me know if i can answer any more questions to assist. I have screenshots too of their welcome page and then of my page with all deposit options removed. i just want to know why.
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