Nakon što je osvojio svoj prvi značajan iznos od oko 50.000 evra u junu, razumljivo je prestao da igra i počeo da traži povlačenje. Tri puta je uspešno podigao 1.500 evra, ali mu je sistem potom smanjio limit za podizanje na 500 evra zbog njegove manje aktivnosti. Iako je bio razumljivo frustriran novim limitom, na kraju ga je prihvatio i nastavio da povlači sredstva, uspevši da podigne još tri puta 500 evra.
U svetlu ovoga, moram da kažem da su oni prevaranti, jer njihovi uslovi i odredbe ne govore ništa o smanjenju isplata. Frustriran nije ta reč. Tada sam, kako kažete, prihvatio i kontaktirao vas. Zašto kažete da sam mogao da se povučem jer su oni sve više odugovlačili povlačenje? Pretpostavljam da zbog toga nisam mogao da se povučem jer bi mi trebale godine da ga prikupim, nešto što nikada neću razumeti.
16. avgusta, verovatno da bi povećao svoju aktivnost i povećao limit za povlačenje, ponovo je počeo da igra sa preostalim saldom. Nažalost, ovoga puta sreća nije bila na njegovoj strani i izgubio je ravnotežu. Nakon toga je tvrdio da je njegov nalog hakovan i da nije on kladio. Iako razumem njegovu frustraciju, tehnički tim je istražio i nije našao neuobičajenu aktivnost na njegovom nalogu. Štaviše, stanje nije jednostavno izbrisano (što nije moguće); nego su opklade postavljene i obrađene od strane sistema. Da je u tom trenutku osvojio više, sumnjam da bismo vodili ovu diskusiju.
I u vezi sa ovim moram da vam kažem da ni u jednom trenutku nisam želeo da povećam svoju aktivnost, jer ako su imali prednost, radili su šta su hteli, donosili su jednostrane odluke kada su smatrali da je prikladno, određivali su datume i vreme. , odbijaju isplate koje ti odgovaraju i spuštaju ih na ono što misle da je zgodno, imam mejlove koji kažu da nisam imao nameru da potrošim ništa, ni jedan evro, a kako sam video trikove ove gospode, upravo tako da je bilo aktivnosti na računu svakih 15-20 dana sam uplatio da ne bi mogli da kažu da račun nije imao aktivnost, jer ko mi kaže da ne menjaju uslove bez najave, umesto tri meseca da zatvore račun zbog neaktivnosti stavljaju 15 ili 7 dana kako obično rade, kako zapovedaju. Znam da se ovakva situacija već dešavala nekim povodom, ne znam da li je žalba stigla do vas ili je postavljena na drugim forumima. Takođe smatram da je izraz da je povećanje aktivnosti veoma neprijateljski ili nepristojan... Ako hoću da povećam aktivnost igraću svako toliko 500-600 evra, a ne četrdeset hiljada evra za nekoliko dana, ne znam koliko se igralo jer su mi zatvorili račun a nisam gledao istoriju, niti znam na koju igru se kladio. To je da kada sam ušao je bilo 0,13 centi, i čekalo podizanje od 500€, što valjda nisu primetili da ga ponište i prebace u kazino na bilo koji način, manipulišući računom tako da sav novac, to je sve . Nema smisla da trošim sve svoje dobitke kada jednom kada su mi prva 2 povlačenja prebačena na račun, ne žurim po novac, isto mi je da li je na mom kazino nalogu ili u bankovni račun,
Ukratko, prevaren sam i nisam prvi, a videćete da nisam ni poslednji.
Inače, počeli su da me tretiraju loše i da zabrljaju stvari kada sam konačno odlučio da slučaj predam stručnjacima. Kakva slučajnost, zar ne? Nisam imao vremena, a niko od nadležnih me nije kontaktirao kako sam tražio. I konačno, da bi poslovali u Španiji, obrasci za žalbe moraju biti dostupni klijentu po zakonu. Uvek sam dobijao tišinu 3 ili 5 puta kada sam ih tražio. Imam jedno lako i jednostavno pitanje: za ove slučajeve kazino nema nikakvu vrstu osiguranja da ne bi oštetio svog klijenta, ili ne može dati odgovarajući izveštaj jer situacija nije baš jasna.
(uzgred, i ne verujem u slučajnosti, kažem vam ovo jer možda moj trik nije bio da igram fer, ili nije bio sasvim etički, znao sam da ću te noći imati neku nagradu iako jesam Ne očekuj toliko, kazina ili mašine iste hvataju način na koji igraš, ja lično nemam kockarske zavisnosti, ali jedne lude noći mi je izmaklo kontroli i previše sam proveo u kazinu, Čitao sam, čitao i čitao, jer mi je trebalo da vratim svoj novac i ono što rade u ovim slučajevima je da ponavljaju tvoj obrazac, daju ti male nagrade da imaš osećaj da pobeđuješ, daju ti manje-više ono što si ti. gube, ispostavilo se da to rade da bi dobili maksimalnu korist jer znaju da ćete potrošiti svoj novac i ono što vam daju preneću vam razgovor sa mojim VIP agentom koji smo imali tog popodneva pre osvajanja nagrade da sami procenite, recite mi kao profesionalcu svoje mišljenje da li želite na moj mejl da to ne radim javno, mejlove stavljam u drugu poruku i ako ne mogu, ja poslaću ih na vašu e-poštu.
After winning his first substantial amount of around €50,000 in June, he understandably stopped playing and started requesting withdrawals. He successfully withdrew €1,500 three times, but the system then reduced his withdrawal limit to €500 due to his lower activity. Although he was understandably frustrated with the new limit, he eventually accepted it and continued withdrawing funds, managing to withdraw €500 three more times.
In light of this, I have to say that they are scammers, since their terms and conditions do not say anything about reducing withdrawals. Frustrated is not the word. Then, as you say, I accepted and contacted you. Why do you say that I was able to withdraw because they were lengthening the withdrawals more and more? I suppose that is why I was not able to withdraw because it would take me years to collect it, something I will never understand.
On August 16th, possibly to increase his activity and increase his withdrawal limit, he started playing again with the remaining balance. Unfortunately, luck was not on his side this time and he lost his balance. After this, he claimed that his account had been hacked and that he was not the one placing the bets. While I understand his frustration, the technical team investigated and found no unusual activity on his account. Furthermore, the balance was not simply deleted (which is not possible); rather, the bets were placed and processed by the system. If he had won more at that point, I doubt we would be having this discussion.
And regarding this I must tell you that at no time did I want to increase my activity, because if they had the upper hand, they did what they wanted, they made unilateral decisions when they thought it was appropriate, they set the dates and times, they reject the withdrawals that correspond to you and lower them to what they think is convenient, I have emails that say that I did not intend to spend anything, not one euro, and as I was seeing the tricks of these gentlemen, precisely so that there was activity in the account every 15-20 days I deposited so that they could not say that the account had not had activity, because who tells me that they do not change the conditions without notice, instead of three months to close the account due to inactivity they put 15 or 7 days as they usually do, as they command. I know that this situation has already happened on some occasion, I do not know if the complaint reached you or if it was posted on other forums. I also find the phrase that it is to increase the activity very unfriendly or impolite…. If I want to increase the activity, I will play 500-600 euros every so often, not forty thousand euros in a few days, I don't know how long it was played because they closed my account and I didn't look at the history, nor do I know what game it was bet on. It's that when I entered there was 0.13 cents, and a pending withdrawal of €500, which I suppose they didn't notice to cancel it and transfer it to the casino in whatever way, manipulating the account so that all the money, that's all. It doesn't make sense for me to spend all my winnings when once the first 2 withdrawals have been transferred to my account, I'm not in a hurry for the money, it's the same to me if it's in my casino account or in the bank account,
In short, I have been deceived and I am not the first, and you will see that I am not the last.
By the way, they started treating me badly and messing things up when I finally decided to put the case in the hands of experts. What a coincidence, right? I didn't have time, and no one in charge contacted me as I asked. And finally, in order to operate in Spain, the complaint forms must be made available to the client by law. I always received silence the 3 or 5 times I asked for them. I have an easy and simple question: for these cases, the casino does not have any type of insurance so as not to harm its client, or is it that it cannot give the corresponding report because the situation is not very clear.
(by the way, and I don't believe in coincidences, I tell you this because maybe my trick wasn't to play fair, or it wasn't entirely ethical, I knew that that night I would have some prize although I didn't expect so much, the casinos or the machines of the same capture the way in which you play, I personally don't have a gambling addiction, but one crazy night it got out of hand and I spent too much in the casino, I read, read and read, because I needed to get my money back. And what they do in these cases is repeat your pattern, giving you small prizes so that you get the feeling that you win, they give you more or less what you are losing, it turns out that they do this to get the maximum benefit. Because they know that you are going to spend your money and what they give you. I'll pass on the conversation with my VIP agent that we had that afternoon hours before winning the prize so that you can judge for yourself, tell me as a professional your opinion if you want to my email so as not to do it in public, I put the emails in another message and if I can't, I'll send them to your email.
Después de ganar su primera cantidad sustancial de alrededor de 50.000 € en junio, comprensiblemente dejó de jugar y comenzó a solicitar retiros. Retiró con éxito 1.500 € tres veces, pero luego el sistema redujo su límite de retiro a 500 € debido a su menor actividad. Aunque comprensiblemente estaba frustrado con el nuevo límite, finalmente lo aceptó y continuó retirando fondos, logrando retirar 500 € tres veces más.
ante esto tengo que decir que son unos estafadores, puesto que en sus terminos y condiciones no dice nada de que se reducen los retiros, frustrado no es la palabra, luego como bien dice acepte y me puse en contacto con vosotros. Lo de logrando retirar por que lo dice por que cada vez alargaban mas los retiros? Supongo que lo de lograr es por eso por que me iba a tirar años para cobrarlo, cosa que no entenderé nunca.
El 16 de agosto, posiblemente para aumentar su actividad y aumentar su límite de retiro, comenzó a jugar nuevamente con el saldo restante. Desafortunadamente, la suerte no estuvo de su lado esta vez y perdió su saldo. Después de esto, afirmó que su cuenta había sido pirateada y que él no era el que estaba haciendo las apuestas. Si bien entiendo su frustración, el equipo técnico investigó y no encontró ninguna actividad inusual en su cuenta. Además, el saldo no se eliminó simplemente (lo cual no es posible); más bien, las apuestas se realizaron y procesaron por el sistema. Si hubiera ganado más en ese momento, dudo que estuviéramos teniendo esta discusión.
y con respecto a esto decirte que en ningun momento quise aumentar mi actividad, para que si la sarten por el mango la tenian ellos, hacian lo que querian, tomaban decisiones unilaterales cuando creian oportuno, las fechas y las horas las ponen ellos, te rechazan los retiros que te corresponden y los bajan a lo que ellos creen conveniente, tengo correos que pone que no pensaba gastar nada ni un euro, y como estaba viendo las artimañas de estos señores, para que precisamente hubiera actividad en la cuenta cada 15-20 dias depositaba para que no pudieran decir que la cuenta no habia tenido actividad, por que quien me dice a mi que no cambian las condiciones sin avisar en vez de tres meses para cerrar la cuenta por inactividad ponen 15 o 7 dias como acostumbran a hacer, como ellos mandan. Me consta que esta situación ya paso en alguna ocasión, no se si os llego la queja o la pusieron por otros foros. también me parece muy poco cordial o cortes la frase de que es para aumentar la actividad…. Si quiero aumentar la actividad jugará 500-600 euros cada cierto tiempo, no cuarenta y tantos mil euros en unos dias, vamos no se en que tiempo se jugo por que me cerraron la cuenta y no mire el historial, ni se en que juego se apostó. Es que cuando yo entre habia 0,13 centimos, y un retiro pendiente de 500€, que supongo no se dieron cuenta para cancelarlo y transferírselo al casino de la manera que fuese, manipulando la cuenta para que todo el dinero, es que es todo. No tiene logica que yo me gaste todas mis ganancias cuando una vez trasferidos a mi cuenta los 2 primeros retiros no me corre prisa el dinero, me es igual que este en mi cuenta del casino, que en la del banco,
en definitiva a mi me han engañado y no soy el primero, y ya veras como no soy el ultimo.
por cierto me empezaron a tratar mal y a liármela cuando decidí definitivamente poner el caso en manos de expertos, qué casualidad verdad, que no me dio tiempo, tampoco se puso en contacto conmigo ningún responsable como pedi. Y por ultimo y para poder operar en españa debe tener por ley a disposicionde cliente las hojas de reclamaciones, siempre encontre el silencio las 3 o 5 veces que se las solicite. Lanzo una pregunta fácil y sencilla, para estos casos el casino no tiene ningun tipo de seguro para no perjudicar a su cliente, o es que no puede dar el parte correspondiente por que no esta la cosa muy clara. A
(por cierto y no creo en las casualidades, te digo esto por que tal vez mi argucia no fuese jugar limpio, o no fuese del todo etica, yo sabia que esa noche tendría algún premio aunque no me esperaba tanto, los casinos o las maquinas de los mismo te captan la forma en la que juegas, yo particularmente que no tengo ludopatía, pero una noche loca se me fue de las manos y gaste demás en los casino, leí, lei y lei, por que necesitaba recuperar el dinero. Y lo que hacen en estos casos es repetir tu patrón , dándote pequeños premios para que de la sensación de que ganas te dan mas o menos lo que vas perdiendo resulta que esto lo hacen para sacar el máximo beneficio. Por q saben q te vas a gastar tu dinero y el que ellos te den. paso la conversación con mi agente vip que tuvimos esa tarde horas antes de ganar el premio para que juzgues tu mismo dime como profesional tu opinión si quieres a mi email por no hacerlo en publico, pongo los correos en otro mensaje y si ni puedo te los envio a tu email
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