Prijavio sam se pre nedelju dana da se kladim na sport na Sportbet.one. Juče sam prebacio USDT $1000 u njihov kazino sa živim dilerima. U roku od 45 minuta igranja live diler blackjack-a povećao sam to do $14,705. Kada sam pokušao da prenesem svoj kazino saldo nazad u kladionicu, on je bio na pregledu 12 sati, nakon čega su preneli samo mojih originalnih 1000 dolara nazad u sportsku kladionicu i uklonili sve moje dobitke, šaljući mi sledeće objašnjenje putem e-pošte:
Vaša kazino sesija #55516 je otkazana nakon rezultata istrage provajdera.
Zvaničan odgovor provajdera:
Proverio sam igru igrača da li ima znakova lažnih aktivnosti. Istraga je otkrila da korisnik ima koristi korišćenjem tehnika praćenja nasumice i brojanja kartica.
Takođe ste prekršili nekoliko osnovnih pravila naše platforme:
Kladionica zadržava pravo da opozove zaključen ugovor o klađenju (uključujući opklade postavljene pre i posle početka događaja), odbije da ispuni svoje obaveze po ovom ugovoru (uključujući isplatu dobitaka) ili odbije da vrati sve postavljene opklade , ako:
- opklade vrši grupa klijenata koji deluju u koaliciji kako bi zaobišli ograničenja koja je uspostavila kladioničarska kuća;
- klijent se sumnjiči da koristi bilo koji softver koji automatizuje proces postavljanja opklada;
- klijent koristi nalog za igru za igranje u arbitražnim situacijama;
Kompletan tekst pravila možete pronaći ovde: https: //sportbet.one/rules .
Ovog puta vraćamo vaš depozit i toplo vam preporučujemo da pratite naša pravila platforme.
Prvo, nisam se bavio nikakvom „praćenjem nasumice" ili „tehnikama brojanja". Evo debitne/kreditne istorije svake ruke i video snimka gde prolazim kroz celu istoriju sesije od 89 ruku tako da može biti potpuna transparentnost ruku koje sam odigrao i iznosa opklada koje sam napravio.
https://i.postimg.cc/g2vKSGJrJ/sportbetone-histori.jpg
https://streamable.com/3l4kpk
Ne znam mnogo o igranju prednosti blekdžek-a, ali video sam dovoljno filmova da znam da je to dugotrajno i da biste dramatično promenili veličinu opklade na osnovu broja špila. Iz moje debitne/kreditne istorije možete videti da je moja sesija bila kratka (45 minuta), i počeo sam da kladim 500$/ruci i menjao ih za ne više od 100-200$ po ruci do maksimalno 1000$ po ruci. Takođe možete videti u istoriji mojih ruku da sam osvojio 13 od mojih prvih 17 ruku na sesiji, što je činilo većinu mojih dobitaka, a obrazac koji pokazujem je da kladim nešto više nakon niza uzastopnih gubitaka i nešto manje nakon serije uzastopnih pobeda. Bilo je nekoliko promena u mešanju karata tokom ove sesije, ali to je bio konzistentan obrazac koji sam pokazao i veličina moje opklade se nije materijalno promenila zbog drugih faktora tokom moje sesije.
Takođe, od 89 ruka za blek džek koje sam odigrao, doživeo sam neto gubitak u 46 od njih i neto dobitak u samo 43 od njih. Ono gde sam iskusio dobitke su bile sporedne opklade kao što su „savršen par" i „remi", u kojima nijedan igrač sa prednosti ne bi učestvovao. Stavio sam otprilike 20% svog uloga u blekdžek na svaku ruku na ove opklade sa strane i jednostavno sam imao sreće tamo.
Dakle, nakon što dobiju ovo lažno objašnjenje od dobavljača igara, citiraju nekoliko pravila koja bih prekršio.
- opklade vrši grupa klijenata koji deluju u koaliciji kako bi zaobišli ograničenja koja je uspostavila kladioničarka;
- klijent se sumnjiči da koristi bilo koji softver koji automatizuje proces postavljanja opklada;
- klijent koristi nalog za igru za igranje u arbitražnim situacijama;
Sva ova pravila: 1) sindikalna igra, 2) softver za automatsko klađenje, 3) arbitraža su sva vezana za SPORTSKO KLADENjE. Oni nemaju nikakve veze sa igrom u kazinu ili onim za šta me lažno optužuju, niti imaju neka druga pravila po tom pitanju. Dakle, čak i da sam igrao neku vrstu prednosti u kazinu, (što nisam!), oni čak nemaju posebna pravila protiv toga. Oni jednostavno izmišljaju optužbe, a zatim primenjuju nepovezana pravila kako bi izbegli isplatu legitimnih pobednika.
I signed up a week ago to bet sports at Sportbet.one. Yesterday I transferred USDT $1000 to their live dealer casino. Within 45 minutes of playing live dealer blackjack I ran that up to $14,705. When I tried to transfer my casino balance back to the sportsbook it went under review for 12 hours, after which time they transferred just my original $1000 back to the sportsbook and removed all my winnings, sending me the following explanation by email:
Your casino session #55516 was canceled after the results of the provider's investigation.
The official response of the provider:
Checked the player's gameplay for signs of fraudulent activity. The investigation found that the user benefits by using shuffle tracking and card counting techniques.
You also violated several basic rules of our platform:
The betting company reserves the right to revoke the concluded betting agreement (including the bets placed before and after the beginning of the event), refuse to fulfill its obligations under this agreement (including paying out the winnings), or refuse to return any placed bets , if:
- bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company;
- the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets;
- the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations;
The full text of the rules can be found here: https://sportbet.one/rules.
This time we are refunding your deposit and strongly recommend you to follow our platform rules.
Firstly, I did not engage in any "shuffle tracking" or "counting techniques". Here is the debit/credit history of each hand and a video where I go through the entire 89 hand history of the session so there can be complete transparency of the hands I played and the bet amounts I made.
https://i.postimg.cc/g2vXGJrJ/sportbetone-history.jpg
https://streamable.com/3l4kpq
I don’t know much about advantage blackjack play but I’ve seen enough movies to know that it’s a long grind and you would dramatically change your bet size based on the count of the deck. You can see by my debit/credit history that my session was short (45 minute), and I started off betting $500/hand and varied it by no more than $100-$200 per hand up to a maximum of $1000 a hand. Also you can see by my hand history that I won 13 of my first 17 hands of the session which accounted for the bulk of my winnings, and the pattern I exhibit is betting slightly more after a run of consecutive losses and slightly less after a run of consecutive wins. There would have been a few card shuffle changes within this session but that was the consistent pattern I exhibited and my bet size did not materially change due to any other factors throughout my session.
Also out of the 89 blackjack hands I played I experienced a net loss in 46 of them and a net gain in just 43 of them. Where I did experience winnings were on side bets such as "perfect pair" and "rummy", which no advantage player would participate in. I placed roughly 20% of my blackjack stake on each and every hand on these side bets and just got lucky there.
So after they get this bogus explanation from the gaming supplier they cite several rules that I would have broken.
- bets are made by a group of clients acting in a coalition to bypass the restrictions established by the betting company;
- the client is suspected of using any software that automates the process of setting bets;
- the client uses the game account to play in arbitration situations;
All these rules: 1) syndicate play, 2) automated betting software, 3) arbitrage are all related to SPORTS BETTING. These have nothing to do with the casino play or what they are falsely accused me of, nor do they have any other rules on the matter. So even if I was doing some sort of advantage play in the casino, (which I wasn’t!), they don’t even have specific rules against it. They are simply making up accusations then applying unrelated rules to avoid having to pay out legitimate winners.
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