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The player from Greece won €600 in a casino lottery and completed the wagering requirements. Despite providing all requested verification documents, the casino had asked for additional statements multiple times and eventually closed his account, accusing him of transferring money between players, which resulted in the loss of the winnings. We reviewed the evidence provided by the casino, which showed the use of third-party funds for deposits. This behavior was considered collusion and was prohibited. Therefore, the complaint was rejected as the casino's actions were deemed justified.
Igrač iz Grčke osvojio je 600 evra na lutriji u kazinu i ispunio uslove za klađenje. Uprkos pružanju svih traženih dokumenata za verifikaciju, kazino je više puta tražio dodatne izjave i na kraju mu je zatvorio račun, optužujući ga za transfer novca između igrača, što je rezultiralo gubitkom dobitaka. Pregledali smo dokaze koje je pružio kazino, a koji su pokazali korišćenje sredstava trećih strana za depozite. Ovo ponašanje se smatralo dosluhom i bilo je zabranjeno. Stoga je žalba odbijena jer su radnje kazina smatrane opravdanim.
iz kazina i govorio da sam dobio na lutriji sa iznosom od 600€. Ušao sam u kazino i bilo je istina. Imao sam iznos od 600€ i ulog je bio k1. Igrao sam nekoliko slotova i kada završim opkladu, zatražio sam povlačenje od 500€. Prvo su tražili papire poput lične karte, stambene isprave, banku itd. Poslao sam im sve što su tražili, ali sam ipak želeo izvode sa Revolut kartice koju sam uplatio. Poslao sam im izjave i čekam! Onda su od mene tražili izjavu koja pokazuje konkretan datum. I ja sam ih poslao! Svaki put kada sam ih slao, KIC odeljak je govorio „prihvaćeno". Posle 3 nedelje slanja papira i izvoda, zamolili su me da pošaljem izvod od prošle godine, ali ne od Revoluta Ja sam dopunio depozite, već sam sa druge nacionalne kartice dopunio Revolut. I njih sam poslao i prihvaćeni su! I nakon svega ovoga, zatvorili su mi račun uz izgovor da prenosim novac između igrača... To je bio neverovatan izgovor! Naravno da sam izgubio svoj dobitak.
i received an email
from casino and was saying that I won a lottery with an amount of 600€. I entered casino and it was true. I had an amount of 600€ and the wager was x1. I played some slots and when I complete the wager, I requested a withdrawal of 500€. At first they asked for papers like ID, residential papers, bank etc. I sent them everything they asked but still wanted statements from Revolut card which I had made deposits. I’ve send them the statements and waiting! Then they asked from me a statement that showing a specific date. I’ve sent them also! Every time I was sending them, the KYC section was saying "accepted". After 3 weeks of sending papers and statements, they asked me to send the a statement from last year, but not from Revolut I’ve meds the deposits, but from my other national card I was topping up my Revolut. I’ve send them also and was accepted! And after all these, they closed my account with an excuse that I was transferring money between players…. That was an amazing excuse! Ofcourse I’ve lost my winnings.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Nažalost, mnoga kazina zabranjuju transfer sredstava između igrača. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju.
Možete li da nam kažete da li su ovi navodi tačni?
Možete li proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na kristina.s@casino.guru ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear Speechy,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately, many casinos prohibit the transfer of funds between players. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Can you advise if these allegations are accurate?
Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Nije bilo transfera sredstava između mene i bilo kog igrača! Uostalom, kako se tako nešto moglo dogoditi?
Prihvatili su sve izjave koje sam im poslao. Možete videti fotografiju ispod.
Poslao sam im izjavu od 35 stranica da vide moje transfere sa moje nacionalne kartice na Revolut! I oni su ovo prihvatili kao što vidite gore na fotografiji.
Nažalost, sva naša komunikacija odvijala se preko live chat-a Nomini kazina gde ne postoji mogućnost transkripta.
U nastavku takođe navodim fotografije onoga što su me tražili u poslednje vreme. Nisam čuvao snimke ekrana iz ćaskanja uživo jer mi nisu rekli ništa važno.
Ako vam treba još nešto, stojim vam na raspolaganju.
Iskreno Vaš
Good evening,
There was no transfer of funds between me and any player! After all, how could such a thing happen?
They accepted all the statements I sent them. You can see the photo below.
I sent them a 35 page statement to see my transfers from my national card to Revolut! And they accepted this as you can see above in the photo.
Unfortunately all our communication was done through the live chat of Nomini Casino where there is no possibility of transcript.
Below I also list photos of what I have been asked for lately. I didn't keep screenshots from the live chat because they didn't tell me anything important.
If you need anything else, I'm at your disposal.
Yours sincerely
Καλησπέρα σας,
Δεν υπήρξε καμία μεταφορά κεφαλαίων ανάμεσα σε εμένα και τον οποιονδήποτε παίχτη! Άλλωστε πως θα γίνονταν κάτι τέτοιο;
Αποδέχθηκαν όλα τα statements που τους έστειλα. Μπορείτε να δείτε την φωτογραφία παρακάτω.
Τους έστειλα statement 35 σελίδων για να δουν τις μεταφορές μου από την εθνική μου κάρτα προς την Revolut! Και αυτό το δέχθηκαν όπως παρατηρείτε παραπάνω στην φωτογραφία.
Δυστυχώς όλη η επικοινωνία μας έγινε μέσω του live chat του Nomini Casino όπου δεν υπάρχει δυνατότητα transcript.
Παρακάτω σας παραθέτω επίσης φωτογραφίες με αυτά που μου ζήτησαν τελευταία. Δεν κράτησα screenshots από το live chat γιατί δεν μου έλεγαν και κάτι σημαντικό.
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, Speechi. Možete li proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na kristina.s@casino.guru ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, Speechy. Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear Speechy,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Želeli bi da vas obavestimo da zbog činjenice da je Kristina, vaš rešavalac prigovora, na odmoru, moramo da produžimo vreme rešavanja za dodatnih 7 dana. Pošto Kristina ima najviše informacija oko vaše situacije i ima direktnu komunikaciju sa kazinom, smatramo da je ovo produženje opravdano. Vaše strpljenje je će se isplatiti i uveravamo vas da će vas Kristina kontaktirati što pre.
Hvala na razumevanju i strpljenju.
Pozdrav, Casino Guru
Hello Speechy,
We would like to update you that due to Kristina, your designated resolver, being on vacation, we have opted to extend the timeline by an additional 7 days. Since Kristina has an in-depth understanding of your situation and maintains direct communication with the casino, we find this extension justified. Your patience is sincerely appreciated, and I assure you that Kristina will contact you at the earliest opportunity.
Thank you for your understanding and ongoing patience.
Puno vam hvala, Speechi, na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Petru ( peter.c@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, Speechy, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hvala vam Speechi što ste nam pružili sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih želeo da zamolim Nomini Casino za njihovu pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo zašto je igraču oduzet dobitak i šta možemo da uradimo da pomognemo u rešavanju ovog problema.
Hello there,
Thank you Speechy for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask Nomini Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know why were the player's winnings confiscated and what can we do to help resolve this issue.
Hvala vam što ste mi dali informacije predstavniku Nomini kazina .
Dragi Speechi , kazino mi je dostavio dokaze o sredstvima treće strane koja se koriste za depozit u kazinu. Ovo ponašanje se smatra dosluhom jer je zabranjeno u većini kazina u industriji. Izričito ne savetujem takvo ponašanje u budućnosti. Imajući to na umu, smatramo da su koraci koje je kazino preduzeo opravdani i naknadno ćemo odbiti vašu žalbu. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli više pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
Thank you for providing me with the information Nomini Casino representative.
Dear Speechy, the casino has provided me with evidence of third party funds used to deposit to the casino. This behaviour is considered as collusion as is prohibited in most casinos in the industry. I strongly advise against such behaviour in the future. With that in mind, we believe the steps the casino has taken are justified and subsequently we will reject your complaint. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Kind regards,
Peter
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